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[I've been mulling over the utility of these sandboxes again.  More and more they have become the repository of tripe, with interesting threads and tidbits thrown in by readers who occasionally demonstrate that their abundant acumen lies mostly fallow.  I wouldn't mind it if some of the other posted topics that interest me would get more discussion, but too many of them go over with the existing cohort of commenters like a fart in church.  Many of the interesting emails on my topics come from readers who apparently don't want to join into the online fray.  So I keep asking myself, why do I host these sandboxes of scurrilous shit-flinging.  No good answers have risen to the surface.  Thoughts?  gjr]

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  1. Blll Tozer Avatar
    Blll Tozer

    Jig Wiggly@ 10:21 am
    The duck walks into a tavern and tells the bartender to buy the house a round β€œand put it on my bill.” I see what you are saying. Some things stick.
    If you desire to have a conversation about transsexuals (as opposed to dress up drag queens on Saturday night) , give it a go. Heck, I will dress up as Little Bo Peep or Mother Goose if required or asked to read to children. Now, if we are teaching kids as young as eight about anal sex as normal as the sun rising in the East in public school Sex Ed courses, then we have a difference of opinion. We all know the difference between dress up, Halloween, and life style. If a little boy goes in Momma’s closet, digs around, and walks around in her heels, does that mean the kid should be put on puberty blockers? Conversely, if a little girl puts on a Daniel Boone coonskin hat or pretend they are Peter Pan or play with Daddy’s tool belt…does that mean they are transsexuals? Does it have to be all or nothing? Whatever happened to β€œage appropriate”?
    Curiosity and experimentation is normal…especially in college.
    Would you let any child or pre-adolescent choose what they want to eat for dinner? They would pick ice cream every time..and skip the veggies. Oh, I believe in being supportive and listening, but who is the adult in the room? 90% of those who declare themselves living in the wrong body change their minds by the time they are 20. A little too late if they are now sterile because of hormone therapy. That’s getting close to child abuse.
    Basically and in general terms, I see the Transgender forces trying to piggyback on the Women’s Movement. Or hijack it. Start and finance your own movement. Born Males with testicles demanding admittance in a woman’s emergency crisis rape shelter, whose clients are traumatized by the very sight of a male genitalia? Not a good idea. There is a world of difference between tolerance and embracing with wide open arms. I am tolerant, but won’t condone anything solely because I am told I have to. I mean Anything.
    I also equate most trannies akin to those suffering from anorexia, albeit there are a lot more anorexics than transgenders in our country. Probably more priests or teachers. There are simply not enough real transgenders in the real world to worry about. For all the yelling and stomping of feet, if their biggest gains in society is reading books at libraries to kids, then it’s much ado about nothing…all in all. Oh yeah, the Pink Pussy Hats where dropped because the attire was not inclusive to women who do not have female genitalia. Count that as a milestone. Another notch in the belt.
    Who was it that recently said that a drag queen has been doing the reading thing for years and nobody could tell? What a joke. We all knew, but did not say a word, speaking for moi. I sure as heck could tell, but no biggie. Only the reader thought they were undetected, roflmao. Heck, I used to take the girls to a bookstore on Saturdays for the reading hour and he would be reading stories in great costumes….just I nor anyone else said anything. Books are for imagination and who dressing up is fun. Yep, no one had a clue…thinketh the 5 o’clock shadow woman. πŸ™‚
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TgiOjhkiuhw
    All in all, most of us conservatives and libertarians have considered the Transgender fuss rather silly and have moved on. Boring. But, the Leftinistas are pushing the cause forward and take it quite seriously under the scared banner of inclusivity. Thus, let the women fight it out. The Born Females can handle it just time. A point of non intersectionality.

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  2. Scott O Avatar

    Crossy – “McConnell’s job is to serve the American people not his personal ideology or political party (ie. the mega donors) and in serving the American people he is a total failure.”
    He was democratically elected Bobby, by folks who like his personal ideology. BTW – the Koch bros are backing the left these days. But of course if the mega donor wants to give your side money, then it’s peachy keen.
    Please spare us the lefty BS about big money in politics. You leftys lap it up just like the rest of the pigs.
    Total failure?
    That’s your opinion. The Senate doesn’t have to confirm or even consider to confirm any judge at all. Not putting in another ‘creative’ SCOTUS judge was fine with me as it was with millions of Americans. Obama himself said that elections have consequences.

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  3. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    For your readout pleasure:
    Trump falls top – 8 in Rasmussen’s strongly approve-disapprove poll. Rasmussen is RR’s and particularly Todd and Gregory’s only poll that they considered relevant.
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history

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  4. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Oh BoobieC and jiggly/Glenn, If you remove the dem votes from California Trump won the popular vote by 1.5 million in the other 49. You people that have no clue about the Constitution need to return to the eighth grade.
    Jiggly failed his tests and is now in quarantine with an infectious disease it got from an illegal.

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  5. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Trump as king would be a stretch. I recall Obama trying that and he decided Hillary was a good “carry-on” for him. You libs are so paranoid it is laughable. And you never get his humor either.

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  6. Scott O Avatar

    Bobby shouldn’t have skipped civics class: “funny– 3 million more voters demanded that he not even be president in the first place than wanted him in office.”
    There’s this institution called the ‘electoral college’ Bobby. And that’s what counts. Nothing odd about it – happens every 4 years. Do try to pay attention.

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  7. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Thanks, Paul. Yes, Trump’s “approval index” has fallen… to the point where it was in late May.
    Unless he’s found in flagrante delicto with a dead girl or a live boy (traditional reckonings), he’ll probably keep in the same range until next Summer.

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  8. Scott O Avatar

    Paul at 11:34 – Thanks for the non-news, Paul.
    Pssst… he’s still POTUS.
    You’ll have to wait for several more months until you can pull the lever for Uncle Joe.

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  9. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Team 0 is stocked with traitors –
    The latest talking point from Democrats is that President Donald Trump is maneuvering the United States into a war with Iran β€” but ironically, it may be Democrats themselves who are making war more likely by defending the Iranian regime and encouraging it to stand firm against the president.
    Last week, former Obama national security aide Ben Rhodes, an architect of the Iran nuclear deal, publicly doubted reports that Iran was sabotaging tankers in the Persian Gulf. (More evidence has since emerged.)
    Last month, the Daily Beast reported that several Obama administration alumni were continuing to speak to, and advise, Iranian officials: β€œAs the Trump administration sent warplanes and an aircraft carrier to the Persian Gulf, a small group of former Obama administration officials reached out to their contacts in the Iranian government, including Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif. Their message to Iran: Don’t take Trump’s bait. Stay calm.”
    And last year, former Secretary of State John Kerry was reported to have told Iranian officials to β€œwait out” President Trump β€” not to comply with American pressure to stop funding terror, stop developing ballistic missiles, and return to talks to create a better agreement that stops Iran from getting the bomb.
    https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/06/18/pollak-obama-alumni-may-be-prodding-iran-inadvertently-to-war/
    πŸ˜‰

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  10. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Jon Steward, short version. Despite the fact that so many writers on the Right agreed with Jon and praised him, the whole 9/11 victim funding is a big ole Strawman. Yes, the subcommittee hearings are sparsely attended, per usual. The fund gets funded, refunded, and will be funded again and again for decades to come. No Washington politician would ever vote against the victims, despite how the Appropriation bills get temporary get stuck on other non-related issues. With or without Steward, the show goes on unimpeded.
    β€”β€”β€”β€”
    Now, for the most absurd Lefty story of the day!!
    Conservative Review’s Daniel Horowitz reported that Cochise County Sheriff Mark Dannels “confirmed to me the local media reports that four Sinaloa members requested asylum at the Douglas port of entry following the gun battle. While the status of those people is still unclear, just the fact that cartel members have the confidence that they have a shot at asylum is very disturbing.”
    “I just sit back and shake my head every day. It’s almost as if the politicians are desensitized to the border situation. They don’t realize that these cartels are bad, bad people and employ the same violence that the terrorists do,” Dannels told Horowitz. “They just sit back and think all is well at our border. Where is the federal government in all of this? Sheriffs at the border have been a champion of this cause and the line [border] agents get it. But where’s the leadership from D.C.?”
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/48519/mexican-cartel-members-ask-asylum-border-after-ryan-saavedra?utm_campaign=benshapiro
    Nothing to see here. They are just poor hard working folks trying to provide a better life for their families. Just a fake crisis created by Trump as an excuse so he can be declared Emperor For Life. He is the biggest existential threat to our democracy, don’t you know?

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  11. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Gregory
    The poll shows that Trumps core following hasn’t changed much but is pretty low. The election will be decided by those who didn’t vote in the lasting thinking Hillary was a shoe in and those who cannot stomach Trump because of his character. Remember when the Repubs made such a big deal out of Bubba’s character in ’92? Boy they sure have changed their standards.

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  12. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    You truly are unhinged Paul Emery.

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  13. Scott O Avatar

    Bill at 12:04 – Hard to tell which situation is more insane – the border mess or the ‘take Trump down any ol way we think we can’ saga.
    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/06/18/schiff-time-is-running-out-for-mueller-to-testify-may-be-getting-close-to-issuing-him-a-subpoena/
    Schiff has claimed for months he has the goods on Trump, but just can’t seem to put his facts on the table. Now he wants to drag Mueller in to testify under oath!
    Hey Shiff – yeah you, stupid. Do you really think that’s a wise decision? How will that help your big, big uncovering of Trump not helping you find out the whole Russian collusion deal was a fabricated set up by the Dems?
    Pretty sure both problems get a lot worse before they get better – assuming either situation does get better at all.

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  14. Scott O Avatar

    from Paul – “Boy they sure have changed their standards.”
    Nope – not at all. Rs still don’t like rapists.
    Dems do until the rapist loses his or her usefulness for the party.

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  15. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Punchy 1209pm
    Trump’s low on the Strongly Approve side was 23 on 3 Aug 17. It’s been a slow climb ever since.
    He’s above Obama at this time of his first term on the total numbers, 48% vs 45%.
    That the folks you hang with really hate Trump doesn’t mean much… you’ll get representation from California’s electors in much the same way the sun will rise in the East.. but in five years, with a solar minimum rolling our way and California’s spending in an open loop rise… maybe not so much. 2026… Gavin Newsom will have a time of it trying to fight off challengers.

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  16. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Good turnout in the Basin. Union is live on FB.

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  17. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    so 1221pm
    Remember the look on Bubba Bill’s face when he was glancing at Juanita and Kathleen, also in the audience, at the 2nd Presidential “debate” in ’16?
    Yes, Bill, you looked as old as they did.
    “But, but,… Stormy Daniels!”
    I rest my case. I don’t see Michael Avenatti on the list of Democratic debate hopefulls. What a shame.

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  18. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Roberta Cross | 18 June 2019 at 11:31 AM
    …and yet he remains president Roberta

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  19. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    150,000 waiting for the President. Biden drew 75.
    Stormie looked good at her presser accusing Avenatti of stealing her money. Maybe Paul Emery can revive his campaign?

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  20. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 18 June 2019 at 12:09 PM
    Remember when the Repubs made such a big deal out of Bubba’s character in ’92? Boy they sure have changed their standards.

    How bout that shit Punch……you told the republicans that Clintons’ morality (heh) was none of their business…….looks like they were paying attention! Poor Punchy…..still looking for that politician father figure to teach him ethics.
    Go ahead…..say “Bonking”….you know you want to!

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  21. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 18 June 2019 at 01:10 PM
    Maybe Paul Emery can revive his campaign?

    Nahh….no time!
    Remember a ways back…..Punchy was terrified that the Earth was spinning off its axis because the Republicans were through in California. He was going on ….something, something about balance……like when all the towels wind up on one side of the washing machine during the spin cycle!
    Pretty sure he’s working to correct that!

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  22. fish Avatar
    fish

    “So I keep asking myself, why do I host these sandboxes of scurrilous shit-flinging.”

    …..it’s the only way they’re ever going to learn!
    You get nothing out of the deal except knowing that providing this forum is the “lords work”!

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  23. Walt Avatar

    Real short memory Emery,, It’s Trump’s character and personality that GOT him elected. Not a pussy politicization who is full of promises that never delivers.
    Trump is doing close to everything he said he would do, within his powers. And then some.
    You should really watch the news. You should see the racism from your Proggy friends. Good ol’ Dems being good ol’ DEMS.
    Telling a man of color to go back to Kenya? Unless you believe it’s just fine since the Blake guy works for FOX.

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  24. Walt Avatar

    Here ya’ go Emery (and you other LIBS)
    https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/lawrence-jones-fox-news-racist-taunts-impeach-trump-rally
    Just add it to your antisemitism. (right Dougy?)

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  25. Paul Emery Avatar

    Fish
    I’ve been leaving it up to Todd to turn around the Republican Party in California. He’s a true believer. Kinda tough for him since Nevada County was solid blue for Clinton and Denny last election. Perhaps he should start here. Who knows.

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  26. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 18 June 2019 at 02:38 PM
    ……and yet Todd isn’t the one claiming the repukes need fixing. As usual, always expecting someone else to make you “comfortable”…… eh troubadour?

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  27. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Paul Emery is always full of advice for others and never follows his own. What is that syndrome called? Anyway go give your pal Avenatti a call Paul and see if you can help revive his candidacy. I recall you were getting a thrill up your leg for him. So please for once follow through.
    Regarding California. I did my part back in the 90’s and came to realize the people of my party in charge at the state level were not that bright. I watched as they screwed things up and then saw millions leave for other states opening th spigot for the illegals and liberals. Oh well. I am urging Trump to hold a rally or two here and give the left something to talk about.

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  28. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The mutha mullahs chose poorly again and again –
    Iran published a report on Sunday showing the national Gross Domestic Product (GDP) contracted by 4.9 percent over the fiscal year ending March 21.
    The announcement revealed Iran’s economy contracted much more sharply than anticipated after President Donald Trump reimposed U.S. sanctions.
    Voice of America News noted on Tuesday that the World Bank estimated 1.9 percent GDP contraction for Iran in 2018, a steep fall after 3.8 percent growth the previous year. The International Monetary Fund (IMF) expected 3.9 percent contraction for 2018, but even that dire estimate proved a full percentage point shy of the figures released by the Statistical Center of Iran.
    Both the World Bank and IMF predicted Iran’s recession would grow much worse this year, projecting contractions of 4.5 percent and 6 percent respectively.
    Rosenberg noted that Iran’s ruling elite has little interest in opening their economy or culture to the outside world, which was one of the major stated objectives of the Obama administration’s nuclear deal.
    Wary of political liberalization, the mullahs and their subservient secular government resisted opening and diversifying their economy. Instead, they spent their Obama billions on military adventures and terrorism. The Iranian economy was therefore woefully unprepared for the double blow of Trump restoring sanctions and world oil prices crashing. If the Iranians had done what they told the Obama administration they would do, they would have been less vulnerable to the Trump administration’s punitive measures.
    https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/06/18/iran-admits-recession-after-u-s-sanctions-worse-expected/
    πŸ˜‰

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  29. Scott O Avatar

    Learn something new everyday –
    “Proposed tariffs on $300 billion in Chinese goods would include printed materials, which would especially affect Bibles and children’s books predominantly produced in China because of the unique paper, printing technology and skills needed, company and trade group officials testified during the second day of a seven-day hearing on the proposed duties Tuesday.”
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-18/publishers-plead-with-trump-not-to-impose-a-china-bible-tax
    The US is incapable of printing Bibles and childrens’ books??!!
    Sounds like a load of industry clap-trap.
    Decades ago I and many others printed perfectly legible English by the 800 lb roll several times daily. Cut to page size and nicely stacked as well. Add a collator and a binder and we could have printed anything you would have wanted. That operation is still going strong right now in hundreds of places across the country. The only ‘special’ paper we needed to import was for title documents. Some outfit in France that also made the paper for different currencies around the world. We were able to source that paper eventually in the US as well.
    The Chinese started this trade war – I’m glad Trump is willing to do something about it. The Chinese will play rope-a-dope and do everything they can to get their buddy Uncle Joe elected.

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  30. Walt Avatar

    Once AGAIN the judge shows to be soft on crime.
    Time for a recall.
    https://www.theunion.com/news/grass-valley-police-say-facebook-post-about-a-drug-case-was-meant-to-inform-not-be-a-call-to-action/
    I’m sure our resident LIBS are more than happy with lowlifes getting a pass. It’s their constituency.

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  31. Walt Avatar

    After a two year witch hunt with fake charges and manufactured “evidence”(pee pee papers) will the LIBs hold their own accountable?
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-republicans-demand-hearing-after-state-dept-cites-multiple-security-incidents-under-clinton-leadership
    No way in hell. But the drumbeat will continue for the impeachment of Trump… And just on what charges?? I’m sure a LIB here with a set can name one,,with supporting proof. (naaaaa… all the ones here have been castrated)

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  32. Jig Wiggly Avatar
    Jig Wiggly

    Todd 3:07
    “I am urging Trump to hold a rally or two here”
    You do that Todd. Have him bring baby Jesus and maybe a dinosaur too while you’re at it.
    Thanks

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  33. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    @3:38 pm
    β€œBut the drumbeat will continue for the impeachment of Trump… And just on what charges??”
    Ooh, ooh, Call on me. I know, I know the answer. It’s for telling his administration not to cooperate with Congress! Holy Moly! Trump declared Executive Privilege. The sky is falling, it’s the end to our democracy. Has nothin’ to do with Russians or the Mueller Report. This is bigger!! Contempt of a most Contemptible Congress, civil.
    What do I win? If you think you have seen a President invoke Executive Privilege now, just wait til Barr or Congress starts issuing subpoenas and requests for files from Obama, roflmao. You ain’t seen nothing yet.

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  34. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    So that is what launched him off on Mitch. This and that Kavanaugh hearing thing. Too much for the po soul to bear, boycott or no boycott.
    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/aiden-jackson/2019/06/18/jon-stewart-says-mitch-mcconnell-using-911-first-responders

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  35. Paul Emery Avatar

    Walt-Trump said he was going to fix healthcare Walt? What’s his plan. Also has the Wall been built yet and did Mexico pay for it…promises, promises. How about infrastructure and their being a balanced budget in two years…promises promises…

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  36. Scott O Avatar

    BT at 3:50 – Don’t you understand? The fact that Mueller couldn’t find any evidence of Trump colluding with Putin so he could steal the election was because Trump obstructed the investigation! The fact that Mueller can’t find the goods IS the proof that Trump impeded the investigation. When Uncle Joe gets in charge, he’ll find all the dirt we need on Trump, you jus wait and see!
    Biden will personally find the hidden bunker ‘neath the White House with all the NAZI stuff that we just know is there! Afterwards, Uncle Joe will cure cancer and then whip up a great Thanksgiving meal for the entire country.
    It’ll be great.

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  37. Walt Avatar

    Your just going to have to wait for the announcement Emery.
    Gotta wait like all the rest. No doubt it will be better than what your boy “O” shit on us with. Yup,, that “O”care just about crippled the economy. Then he gave a pass on it to all his donors.
    Forget that Emery? All those business cutting hours to screw over employees,, the 30 hour week was the new norm,,, Yup that shitcare was SO great. You never seem to have minded your boy “O”‘s lies.
    Remember? you voted for him. Yup once was enough.

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  38. Walt Avatar

    Bill and Scott.. But Pencil neck Schiff has proof!! But the somebitch just won’t fork it over!
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/21/adam-schiff-collusion-trump-1283786
    So bring on the impeachment! (good luck with that)
    I see I still scare the LIBS to no end. Must be the new avatar.

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  39. Walt Avatar

    Come out and play Proggys!!! Your Presidential wannabe sure “swallowed” at the NRA.
    WHATTA CROWD!!!!
    https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/18/eric-swalwell-gun-rally-nra/
    Yaaa,,, being anti gun has always worked out for LIBS.
    Is that why he’s polling 0%?

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  40. Walt Avatar

    Just to grind salt into that open wound,,,
    See the crowd in Orlando? Packed stadium.
    Grease up the backside. Your going to need it. May I suggest
    Dr. D.J. Turump’s butthurt cream? It will sooth what’s coming.
    New and improved for this election season.

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  41. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The po’ ol’ fakenewsman has company in being ignored, the whole fakenews industry can not match fox –
    https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/fox-news-beats-cnn-msnbc-combined-in-ratings-tops-all-of-cable
    πŸ˜‰

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  42. Walt Avatar

    I saw that Don, and was ready to force feed that to the dude with hair extensions for a ponytail.. But there is only so much the old buzzard can take. The undertaker is already working overtime.

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  43. Paul Emery Avatar

    Walt, Todd
    How about Trumps promise on building the Wall and having the Mexicans pay for it. Has that happened yet Walt. And of course a balanced budget, a major promise he made as well as an infrastructure bill. Where is it?

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  44. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    What a maroon @535!

    This should cause the po’ ol’ fakenewsman to quake in his birkenstocks!
    MAGA MEGA ORLANDO
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-kicks-off-re-election-campaign-at-orlando-rally-live-blog
    πŸ˜‰

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  45. Walt Avatar

    Wall is going up Buzzard of Broad St.. Your fake, LIB news won’t tell you that.
    Sorry, your repeated dementia question has been answered.
    Ask your Sister Nancy.. Queen of the DEMNed.
    You DO know she’s in charge of that,,, right? She’s pissed Trump won’t allow raising the debt ceiling. Did you know that too?
    Of course you didn’t.(not that you even give a damn.)

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  46. Walt Avatar

    One more thing old dude.. The President doesn’t write Bills.
    Nice try. Smoke dope during civics?

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  47. Walt Avatar

    Trump just launched his re-election campaign.
    LIBs said he was going to bow out of a second term. He could not take the heat of the investigations.
    Tough times Proggys,,, tough times……

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  48. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Walt 556pm
    Paul swore up and down to me in December ’16 that Trump would refuse to take the oath of orifice, letting Pence step up and become Prez. Trump didn’t want to be president. Nosirree, bob.
    Paul will say anything.

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  49. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Ya Walt, remember the pony tail of ignorance projecting Trump would quit before the ignauration……..
    πŸ˜‰

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