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[It appears that there’s not much else happening in the country or the world to interest our commenters who are locked in a pitched battle debating the deeper meaning of poll and Nevada County vote count percentages all guaranteed to rivet the attention of RR’s other readers.  gjr]

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301 responses to “Sandbox – 12jun19”

  1. Huck Flynn Avatar
    Huck Flynn

    “I was talking to war profiteers.”
    Scott “What did they say?”
    Wally replied, “ya “huck”,, Blame the Repubs.”
    There you have it from one of your own. “War profiteers” immediately invokes the word Republican. I didn’t say it. Wally did. I am not so limited in my opinion. Plenty of war profiteers and blood merchants on the left. Of course not a person has responded intelligently to my query, only bluster, bluff and diversions.

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  2. George Rebane Avatar

    HuckF 923am – Other than asking you to give some evidence for your assertions Mr Flynn, what would an intelligent response be to your somewhat remarkable statement? Firing a torpedo and/or placing a limpet charge on the hull of a moving tanker reduces the number of perpetrators to a very few who could do it for political gain. I’m not aware of any private sector “war profiteers” who maintain such deployed offensive capabilities, but do know of several nations that have that capability. It is hard to believe that our Navy does not know how those ships were attacked. We have an attack sub on station there, and I’d bet the farm that Hormuz already has a very sophisticated sonar array installed (similar to the one in the GIUK gap) which tracks every waterborne object in that strait.
    It is easy to generate a plausible scenario for Iran being the perpetrator, given the stress caused by our sanctions, their interest in testing the coalition’s resolve, and the requirement to maintain internal stability between Iran’s mullahs and revolutionary military. BTW, the displayed hull damage to the ships was NOT caused by a modern fleet torpedo which would easily have penetrated the tankers’ double hulls. These explosives were designed and deployed to pique and irritate for political purposes.

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  3. Walt Avatar

    Look at the butthurt LIBS!!! They can go find new work.
    https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/14/sonny-perdue-silent-protest-kansas-city/
    You can spot and ECO LIB a mile away.

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  4. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Walt | 14 June 2019 at 10:39 AM

    “The ERS and NIFA are currently located in Washington, D.C., and are research agencies within the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA). The USDA plans to move the agencies, including their 550 research jobs, to Kansas City, in a move to save taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars, according to CNN.”

    You’d think that they would be happy to bail out of DC and the surrounding swampburbs!
    But you’re right, if they don’t like it they’re free to slug it out on the job market! Shouldn’t be hard to find something else where they are now!

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  5. Scott O Avatar

    from Huck – “Of course not a person has responded intelligently to my query,…”
    I did and BTW, you haven’t responded to my query at all.
    But you know all about those ‘blood merchants’ even though you can’t name a single one and can provide no answer to who did damage those ships.
    Oh I know, facts are just the evil tools of whiteness.
    It’s the ‘bigger truth’ that’s important, right?

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  6. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Naaah, “Huck” 923am, a sock puppet like yourself spouting the usual leftist lines makes folks like Walt substitute Republicans for “War Profiteers” as what you were thinking.
    For everyone else, 15 Quatloos says “Huck Flynn” is Michael P. Anderson.

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  7. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Yup –
    Iran tanker attack: Donald Trump, Mike Pompeo should follow Ronald Reagan’s lead
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/06/14/iran-tanker-attack-gulf-oman-trump-pompeo-limpet-mine-column/1454722001/
    😉

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  8. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    TROLL TRAP – So if they are not guilty then why hold a crew for 2 day and then there is this right now in international waters? –
    https://news.yahoo.com/iran-fast-boats-preventing-towing-172645238.html;_ylt=Awr9DtHs8gNdEqwAcpVXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEydTVkajVpBGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQjY4MzNfMQRzZWMDc3I-
    😉

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  9. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    What does the BBC say? –
    Iran has come under massive economic pressure over the past year, since US President Donald Trump unilaterally withdrew from the 2015 nuclear deal and re-imposed some of the most aggressive sanctions in US foreign policy history – targeting Iran’s oil sales, wider energy industry, shipping, banking, insurance and more.
    But the re-imposition of sanctions recently by the US has significantly ratcheted up the pressure on Iran, pressure that would go some way to explaining why it might seek to threaten the international oil trade, while its own oil sits bounded by its borders.
    The risk of such a strategic move is significant – the fallout is potential military escalation with the US and its allies in the region.
    It is not a gamble that would have been made quickly or lightly.
    It would have been taken by consensus by all the main heads of the different Iranian political institutions, with Iran’s Islamic Revolution Guards (IRGC) playing a significant part given their influence over all regional dossiers, and the supreme leader, Ayatollah Khamenei, having the final say over all matters of security and international affairs.
    Iran may suspect that the risk is lower than it first seems, because Mr Trump does not want a war.
    If strategic patience is in fact at an end, Iran may feel that only by displaying the range and scale of its potential destabilising activities – including disruption of the international oil trade it has been barred from – can it increase its leverage with the US, and pull itself out from under the punishing sanctions its old foe has imposed.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-48642401
    😉

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  10. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Buddy can you spare a dime?
    Bloomberg) — The Democratic National Committee has a money problem. And that could hurt its nominee’s chances of beating President Donald Trump in 2020.
    In the first four months of 2019, the party spent more than it raised and added $3 million in new debt. In the same period, its Republican counterpart was stockpiling cash.
    https://news.yahoo.com/democrats-apos-2020-odds-against-080000889.html
    😉

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  11. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Those mutha mullahs just can not help themselves –
    The crew of the Norwegian-owned tanker Front Altair has been held by the Iranians for nearly 48 hours after they were first rescued by another merchant vessel following attacks on oil tankers in the Gulf of Oman early Thursday, according to U.S. officials.
    The detention of the 23 sailors follows attacks on Front Altair and another oil tanker that the U.S. pinned on Iran, calling it an attempt to escalate tensions in the regi
    The crew of the Norwegian ship was first rescued by the Hyundai Dubai, according to U.S. officials, but Iranian gunboats quickly surrounded the ship and demanded the crew be turned over. The captain ultimately relented and ordered his crew to surrender.
    https://www.foxnews.com/world/tanker-crew-were-detained-by-iran-after-first-being-rescued-by-another-vessel-us-officials
    😉

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  12. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Neutering those mutha mullahs lie machine –
    Twitter announced on Thursday it has shuttered some 4,800 accounts with ties to the government of Iran. The company said the accounts were engaged in spreading disinformation and propaganda that “benefited the diplomatic and geostrategic views of the Iranian state.”
    Twitter found 2,865 Iran-linked accounts which “employed a range of false personas to target conversations about political and social issues in Iran and globally.” Of the banned accounts, 300 were “focused on influencing discussions related to Israel.” The banned accounts collectively generated about two million tweets.
    https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/06/14/twitter-removes-4800-accounts-linked-iranian-government/
    😉

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  13. Huck Flynn Avatar
    Huck Flynn

    Rebane 10:07
    “I’m not aware of any private sector “war profiteers” who maintain such deployed offensive capabilities.” Bullshit.
    Now you are flying your true colors of obfuscation. But that’s what you did for a living. Correct me if I’m wrong that you worked for the “defense” industry helping develop weapons that only make money when there is conflict. Bottom line depends on it. . How deeply intrenched are “private sector” profiteers with our government? Basically one in the same. Please tell us that mercenaries and contracted militia are not trained, equipped, and funded by the government to do exactly the kind of things like covertly mining shipping lanes and launching torpedoes acquired from a hostile nation in the name of plausible deniability. Of course you’ll say “I know nothink”.

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  14. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    You can bet whoever missed that shot to stop the drone video getting out is hanging from a crane right now! –
    Iranian boat fired missile at US drone prior to tanker attack, US official says
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/14/politics/us-drone-tracked-iranian-boats/index.html
    😉

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  15. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    What size tinfoil hat does the troll wear?

    Bad news for the pony tail of ignorance –
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mnuchin-on-solid-ground-in-withholding-trump-tax-returns-justice-department/ar-AACTwuS?ocid=spartandhp
    😉

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  16. Huck Flynn Avatar
    Huck Flynn

    Funny how CNN, the proprietor of fake news and the mouth piece for the Deep State is never to be trusted, until they say something you want to hear.

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  17. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Now, “Huck”, you know how the citation game is played… use a source your opponent finds pure as the driven snow ’cause sure as shit, they’ll attack the source if it isn’t.
    For everyone else, 25 Quatloos say Huck is Michael P. Anderson.

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  18. Huck Flynn Avatar
    Huck Flynn

    CNN is simply the mouthpiece, the “source” is the US government. I don’t trust it to tell me the truth for a single second. And that has nothing to do with Democrats or Republicans.

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  19. Walt Avatar

    Still no names of those “war profiteers”.
    Tell us Huckleberry, I want to buy their stock before the shooting starts!
    Just which private contractor is operating out of Aria 51?
    Some real cool shit has been spotted there.
    Pissed at Boeing? General Dynamics? General Electric?
    Portsmouth Shipyards?
    The real good anti tank missiles come from my cousins the Swedes.
    No stomach for war Huckleberry? You can always play “O”, and go apologize to the Iranians for the incriminating video we shot.
    Now how come the ECO bastards have yet to make a peep about the oil spills?

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  20. Walt Avatar

    BTW Huckleberry, Better have your LIB friends down in Sac fork up the money to pay the farmers that had their land “grabbed” for Moonbat’s choo choo. So where did the money go? No real track laid to speak of. But PLENTY of “studies”.

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  21. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Ah yes, fell into the troll trap. Nothing to dispute the facts the mutha mullahs are swarming the area denying the salvage companies access and snatching the crew from a rescue freighter and parading them on tv.
    When everyone sees the same thing trolls are left with nothing! LOL
    Sounds like a closet mutha mullahs cuddler.
    😉

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  22. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    @ 2:59 pm
    Ah, the pot has sweetened. First it was 10 Quatloos, then 15, now 25 Quatloos. Very telling.
    ——————
    “CNN is simply the mouthpiece, the “source” is the US government”. Must be a typo or something. Better help the angry white dude out.
    “CNN is simply the mouthpiece, the “source” is the Leftinistas.” There, fixed it for ya. No thanks necessary.

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  23. Huck Flynn Avatar
    Huck Flynn

    “Pentagon sources reveal”. Yep. Them’s “Leftinistas” if you say so.

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  24. Huck Flynn Avatar
    Huck Flynn

    OOOPS! Captain of the ship and eyewitnesses say report of limpet mines and Trump’s video of Iranians removing mine simply didn’t happen. An alternate truth. Who shall we believe?
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/japanese-ship-owner-contradicts-us-account-of-how-tanker-was-attacked/2019/06/14/7ea347d0-8eba-11e9-b6f4-033356502dce_story.html?utm_term=.60abf51a727e

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  25. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    You mean the crew that are Iranian captives?
    😉

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  26. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    toes 425p
    Yessiree Bob, the pot’s getting bigger…the only thing missing are rants about the Trump crime family.

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  27. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    If you look closely at the Iranian video of the crewmen kidnapped off their rescue ship they are being tortured. You can see the ayatollah ranting on the flats screen in the room.
    😉

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  28. Walt Avatar

    Gotta love this LIB thinking.. Yup, you can have that dope… But don’t you DARE use it!!
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/14/court-california-law-allows-prison-inmates-to-legally-possess-marijuana/
    I guess the prison guards will be issued scales. “That bag better weigh the same it did at last check.”

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  29. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    5:07 pm
    Don, that’s funny. Funnier that watching the clip I just watched, “Mika Brzezinski Suffers EPIC Meltdown Over ‘Evil’ ‘Dictator’ Trump”. That had me rolling, but yours was better.
    Fingernails on the blackboard time!
    We need more nuclear power plants, but quick. One nuclear plant is equivalent to 17 of those gawd awful giant solar field that destroy our environment. Nuclear is the way to go, better for our environment, a fraction of the footprint, more reliable that wind or solar will be in a 100 years.
    USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA.
    Christians.
    Conservatives
    50 bucks for a box of screws.
    What do you call two liberal dope smoking chicks in a waterbed? Bay of Pigs.
    All lives matter.
    Government is the employer of last resort.
    Santa Cruz is a shithole.

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  30. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    @ 5:55 pm
    From your link, I found this link:
    “This has implications for reservoirs operated around the state, including Oroville and Prado Dam. “The Orange County Water District is grateful to Senator Dodd and Assemblymember Wood for their efforts in securing funding for FIRO research,” stated Vicente Sarmiento, president of OCWD. “With better weather forecasting, an additional 20,000 acre-feet of storage space could be made available for stormwater capture behind Prado Dam without impacting flood risk. Doing so would allow OCWD to capture and use an additional 20,000 acrefeet or 6.5 billion gallons of stormwater in a wet year which would otherwise drain to the Pacific Ocean. That’s enough water for 160,000 people.”
    “This essential investment in public safety and sustainable water management shows true leadership and is vitally important as California works to address the challenges of climate change,” said Curt Aikens, general manager of Yuba Water Agency.
    “Scripps and the coalition have also embarked on a multi-phase federal scoping study in collaboration with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to assess the viability of using FIRO for reservoirs in the southwest United States, where the majority of rainfall often occurs in three to four storms per year.
    “Many members of the coalition have worked to optimize the amount of water stored behind reservoirs and dams to recharge as much of the limited rainfall as possible into groundwater basins and reservoirs. Large rainfall events caused by atmospheric rivers are a major source of water supply in southern California.”
    https://yubanet.com/regional/unprecedented-funding-for-research-into-atmospheric-rivers-and-stormwater-capture-in-california-approved-by-legislature/
    That’s enough water for 160,000 people? Well, that just got wiped out with our open borders policy. Not even enough to cover two months of illegals flooding in.

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  31. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    It’s seem like just a few months ago everyone was singing John McCain’s praises to the rooftops, saying he walked on water and all. It seems like just last week that the entire lamestream media was freaking out that Trump and the evil mustached one, John R. Bolton, were dragging us into a war with Iran. Guess you can’t have it both ways.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zoPgv_nYg
    Personally, I stay away from the new-cons and the illiberals. One thing for sure, you will never see this President bow to a foreign Prime Minister or welcome the Muslim Brotherhood anywhere near the White House.

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  32. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    So the fakenewsmen and haters claimed there was no supplemental part to the mexico migrant accord? Wrong beyotches –
    Mexico City (AFP) – Mexico published the document Friday that US President Donald Trump fleetingly showed the press this week as evidence he had extracted tough new concessions on migration from the neighboring country.
    Trump theatrically waved the one-page document in front of reporters Tuesday, fending off critics who said his use of tariff threats to force Mexico into a deal on curbing migration had in fact extracted little in the way of new commitments from the Mexican side.
    Photojournalists managed to capture a few sentences of the document, but the full contents had not previously been revealed.
    The document is a “supplementary agreement” to the deal the US and Mexico signed last Friday, and outlines additional measures the two sides agree to take.
    The two countries “will immediately begin discussions to establish definitive terms for a binding bilateral agreement to further address burden-sharing and the assignment of responsibility for processing refugee status claims of migrants,” it says.
    Under that “binding bilateral agreement,” the countries “would accept the return, and process refugee status claims, of third-party nationals who have crossed that party’s territory to arrive” in the neighboring country, it says.
    That language appears to resemble Trump’s demand for a “safe third country” agreement in which migrants entering Mexican territory would have to seek asylum there, not the United States, and be immediately deported to Mexico if they entered the US.
    The document adds that the agreement would be “part of a regional approach” to dealing with undocumented migrants and refugees.
    “Mexico also commits to immediately begin examining domestic laws and regulations with a view to identifying any changes that may be necessary to bring into force and implement such an agreement,” it says.
    😉

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  33. Walt Avatar

    Well well…. A drugy found with drugs on HIGH St. in Nevada City.
    https://www.theunion.com/news/routine-patrol-by-nevada-city-police-leads-to-felony-drug-arrest/
    ” Nevada City police to find almost an ounce of suspected methamphetamine on High Street”
    What a great picture of Nevada City’s “high” society.
    What a buzz kill for the party seine in Nevada City this weekend.

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  34. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Drop in the bucket @ 738!
    😉

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  35. George Rebane Avatar

    HuckF 202pm – Now our intrepid leftinista has accused our defense industry of training and commissioning mercenaries to create international incidents that would start a war from which the defense industry will profit. Until he comes up with even a shred of evidence to support that outlandish claim, this conversation is over.

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  36. Walt Avatar

    Dr.R.. Evedence be damned. It’s the seriousness of the charge. That’s all that matters. That’s how LIBs like Huckleberry roll.
    Make up some wild ass claim and demand it be proven wrong.
    They have no intention of producing facts.(because non exist)
    Just like his “awareness” of the situation of the Proggy invited invasion at the border.

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  37. Huck Flynn Avatar
    Huck Flynn

    Good lord George, “outlandish” so we won’t discuss it? Cutting too close to the quick are we? Nip this at the bud.
    How about starting with the Mexican War? Or as Wally claimed earlier regarding blowing up the USS Maine, that’s reaching too far into history? Is Bay of Pigs close enough? How about Nicaragua, Guatemala, the Dominican Republic, Grenada, Chile, Argentina or Panama, for starters just in our hemisphere. ALL were preluded with US trained and funded agents. All were infiltrated for American economic interests.
    Conversation over? And your entire foundation for this blog is about evoking political conversation. Unless of course you don’t like where it’s headed.

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  38. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    55 Quatloos

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  39. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Oh Hucky, it has been a tough century being the world’s policeman.

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  40. Scott O Avatar

    The Huckster at 10:26 – “Conversation over? And your entire foundation for this blog is about evoking political conversation. Unless of course you don’t like where it’s headed.”
    You’ve been asked to provide the names of the ‘blood merchants’ you claim are behind the ship attacks in the straight. Please name them and their method of delivery and also explain why Iran has kidnapped the crew of one of the ships.
    Otherwise you have nothing but conjecture.
    And you look foolish by ignoring that Iran constantly is threatening the exact action that took place and that they did indeed mine the straights in the past.

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  41. Walt Avatar

    Just when did the Maine come up? Christ, your so full of shit.
    As for that, what’s in the history books just ain’t good enough.
    What next? It was American pilots in dressed up aircraft (sold by Howard Hughes)that really attacked Pearl Harbor. Just to get us into WWII.

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  42. Walt Avatar

    This week’s winner of wannabe President’s dumbest idea IS,,,,,
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/14/orourke-president-orourke-will-take-executive-action-to-end-new-oil-and-gas-leases-on-federal-lands/
    “Robert “Beto” O’Rourke will fight climate change through executive action “when” he is elected by ending new leases for oil and gas production on federal lands.
    Yet the Proggys claim Trump is a dictator?
    What’s stopping any Proggy from declaring ANY FED land “off limits” to public use? Name your excuse…. NOPE,, FIRE danger is too high… NOPE,, AGW… NOPE,, endangered critters..

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  43. George Rebane Avatar

    re HuckF 1026pm – This sackhead has now shown himself to be a real lightweight among the usual leftwing lightweights who attempt debate here (BTW, there are some worthy ones also). Of course, these local lackeys only consume their blindered outlets, so he and his never see the complete spectrum of news. In this case it includes a US Navy video showing an Iranian fast boat blatantly removing an unexploded hull (limpet) mine from a tanker at sea that it had placed there earlier so as not to leave evidence of its provenance. What is doubly remarkable about worthies like HuckF is that they don’t even reliably canvas their own outlets for news that would aid them in not making complete fools of themselves in public. Here’s a report from WaPo as an example.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/iran-slams-us-calls-claims-of-tanker-attackseconomic-terrorism/2019/06/14/b94c1ece-8e16-11e9-b6f4-033356502dce_story.html?utm_term=.8429b893946a
    See also the 15jun19 WSJ for another report.

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  44. Walt Avatar

    Might as well help Huckleberry out!
    https://listverse.com/2014/11/10/10-inside-jobs-that-governments-blamed-on-enemies/
    Looks like this is where he started. Dude….. Your one gullible somebitch.

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  45. fish Avatar
    fish

    This is so silly it has to be satire…..progressives……Hah!!

    “Dear Amy: This week, I discovered that my intelligent, hard-working, responsible 24-year-old daughter (who lives with me) is a gun owner! And it’s not a normal gun, either — it is a 40-caliber semi-automatic, and she has hollow-point bullets to go with it. Amy, this is the kind of weapon a criminal would possess! She says it is for emergencies. There have only been two home invasions in our neighborhood in the last 11 years.
    I’ve given her three choices: She can either give her weapon to me, sell it or move out in three weeks. I love my daughter and would be so sad for her to move into a place that she would hardly be able to afford but now I have to lock my bedroom door at night because I don’t know what she’s going to do. Now she says that I don’t trust her, and is barely speaking to me. How can I convince her to stop endangering us?

    Needless to say….read and enjoy the whole sad, sad tale!
    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/worst-advice-column-ever-written/

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  46. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Gatloos? That’s an impressive stack being pushed out there on the table.
    —————————————————-
    A good healthy skepticism of Big Brother is a key and necessary ingredient that our founding fathers knew all too well. After all, they were fleeing such a government. Nobody talks about the Third Amendment, but it came before the 4th and right after the 2nd for a good reason.
    With that said……the blame America First! crowd is alive and kicking. Nothing we have not recently heard from Ilhan Omar (D-Somalia) when she grilled Venezuelan envoy Abrams on the role the US had in El Salvador, Guatemala, Nicaragua, and other shitholes decades ago. Or, nothing one won’t hear on and given night from the crockpot on Democracy Now! No, the US did not run.death squads….the tin horn police states did that all by themselves.
    There was once some fatso on KVMR many moons ago trying to raise funds from listeners (of course) to pay his trip to El Salvador to do some poking around and uncover American atrocities. Send him a dollar, 5 bucks, even ten. Raid the kid’s piggy bank.
    I picked up the landline and called the station and told him I would donate 200 bucks if he promised not to return, lol. My offer was not appreciated.
    Odd, that when folks like me dared to question Comey, McCabe, Clapper, and Brennan, we were met with an instant barrage of accusations of being of being a THREAT TO DEMOCRACY. Just raising the possibility of nefarious motives by government officials brought fire and brimstone upon our conspiring heads. And then, in a flash of a millisecond, they turn around and believe the largest sponsor of state terrorism on the planet and assign nefarious motives to the US government. Believe Iran First. Blame America First. Question authority, lol. America is not not-guilty. Can you say selective outrage? Good, I knew you could.

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