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George Rebane

[This is the addended transcript of my regular KVMR commentary broadcast on 24 April 2019.  A slightly edited version also appears in the 27apr19 issue of The Union.]

Perhaps no recent issue of national contention illustrates the differences of how our two polarized sides see the future direction of America than does the debate about whether the 2020 census should include the citizenship question.  The original intent of the census had to do with redistricting and reapportionment.  That intent was carried out with our census from 1820 to 1950 by counting American citizens, which then determined membership in the House of Representatives and the Electoral College for the several states.  In the 20th century an accurate citizen count provided by the census was also used to determine the allocation of federal dollars back to the states under various programs that Congress legislated.


Later, a count of citizens was also required to redraw congressional district boundaries under the Voting Rights Act.  To enforce that law, the so-called “majority minority” districts must be so drawn so that at least 50% of the voters – i.e. citizens over 18 – are members of the minority in question.  Moreover, the one-person, one-vote principle requires that congressional districts contain essentially the same number of people.  All of these requirements and more, that allow our republic to function, require a meaningful count of the nation’s citizens.

The fundamental question of apportionment comes down to how accurate citizenship data might affect the number of House seats and Electoral College votes.  A recent Supreme Court ruling based apportionment on all “persons” physically present in a state as required by the Constitution.  And here started the debate about what was really meant by ‘persons’, ‘inhabitants’, ‘citizens’, and so on.  Lawyers and legal scholars David Rivkin and Richard Raile dissect all this in their piece entitled ‘Should Noncitizens Be Represented in Congress?’.  The short form of the national sentiment is that the Right says no and the Left says yes.

Each side’s view is part and parcel of the opposite directions in which they see the future of our country.  The Left sees America as part of a globalist world in which national borders essentially disappear, people will migrate freely and in perpetuity from here to there, and citizenship in a sovereign nation-state becomes as moot as the sovereignty of the nation-states themselves.  The Right sees a future world of sovereign nation-states enduring in a global community, connected by peaceful, mutually beneficial trade and commerce; a community which sustains the rich diversity of cultures because each of them has a secure homeland in which people may pass on to future generations their treasured traditions, customs, beliefs, language, and arts.  Such would be a world of ‘globalization’ as opposed to the one-world government of ‘globalism’.

Almost all countries today count their citizens for more than the reasons given above as globalization becomes the new world order in the community of nations.  The forces opposing this in America declare and seek its ‘fundamental transformation’, the prerequisite of which is the demolition of our democratic republic and the rewriting of our Constitution, this so as to change the United States into a compliant region with a population that has turned its back on the country’s history and its European heritage.  Today the most effective and rapid way to achieve this is through permanently porous borders, while blurring the distinction between American citizens, legal aliens, and illegal aliens who inhabit the land.  First and foremost, what must be changed is the law stating that “anyone who enters the US unlawfully is subject to involuntary removal and thus cannot be considered an inhabitant in the constitutional sense.”

The precise mechanism for this fundamental transformation of America is to restructure congressional districts in a manner that amplifies the country’s leftwing voter base to create permanent Democrat super-majorities in both houses of Congress, as has already happened in Sacramento  It is easy to see how that can be achieved by first creating publicized welcoming sanctuaries that invite and succor the millions of illegals pouring over our border, and then counting citizens and non-citizens alike to achieve the desired reapportionment before ultimately granting the vote to all residents.  It is then that our republic will fade away to be replaced by a manipulable and manipulated democracy that will see little use in retaining any of the institutions and values that gave rise to America’s greatness.

My name is Rebane, and I also expand on this and related themes on Rebane’s Ruminations where the addended transcript of this commentary is posted with relevant links, and where such issues are debated extensively.  However, my views are not necessarily shared by KVMR.  Thank you for listening.

[Addendum] The careful reader will have noticed my use of ‘perpetuity’, ‘permanent’, and ‘permanently’.  I include these words to facilitate the definition of the Left’s anti-Americans as those residents who strive daily for that fundamental transformation which in its process abandons, or more forcefully ejects, the institutions and values which have made America the desired destination or template for so many of the world’s billions.

Beginning with its core, today most of America’s Left are proudly anti-American.  In that cohort their political party of choice is still the Democratic Party.  However, that may soon change as the party’s confused traditional leadership continues to have problems with the party’s new and assumptive leaders who are all collectivists of the socialist cum communist hue.  In the earlier days of 20th century America, being tagged as a socialist was the kiss of political death to the extent that in mid-century the American Socialist Party was forced to close its doors and meld with the Democrats.

Today, after almost three generations of progressive public schooling and its co-option of journalism, many Americans have no idea of socialism’s history and impact on the people in countries where it has been and continues to be practiced.  Especially with the current denigration of capitalism, now in vogue, America’s main street looks at socialism as just another way to run a country that might alleviate all of our much-ballyhooed social aches and pains (racism, income equality, social justice, …).  No one on the Left is telling these folks that embracing the politics of Bernie, Liz, and AOC will fundamentally transform America on its road to globalism.  That kind of messaging is still a no-no (as witnessed also in these pages).

However, today the national emergency at our southern border makes it easy to apply a litmus test that allows the country’s middle-roaders to unambiguously identify the anti-Americans in our midst.  These are people who first and foremost oppose secure borders, claiming them to be everything from racist, through ineffectual and illegal, to inhumane and discriminatory.  To them the notion of porous borders – with millions of migrants of all types entering illegally – being a preamble to national suicide is anathema.  The acid test one can always apply is to ask one of them what policies they have in mind that will stem the flow and return illegal border crossings to bygone norms.  The anti-American has no answer to that question, nor does he consider the question to be important for the simple reason that the arrival of such masses of migrants is the new norm for a transformed America.

Currently, in the sense defined, every Democrat, either running for president or in their congressional leadership, is anti-American.  Of course, they will not admit the label as they continue to foment and perpetuate the invasion of illegal aliens across our borders and into their unlawful sanctuaries once here.  The astute observer need only ignore their talk and watch their walk.

[28apr19 update]  Steven Frisch, the county’s pre-eminent leftwing intellectual, immediately took a swing at my Union column, and as usual, totally missed.  (The man is my longtime, most enduring critic, and for that I am grateful for all the pedagogical opportunities his contributions provide.)  He opens his latest critique with –

“The Constitution never directed that the census count citizens, it coulnted pesons, admittedly at times in a flawed manner, but it counted persons, and apportioned legisaltive seats based on that count.”  (It’s apparent from his typos that he wrote and submitted this in some level of agitation.  You can read his entire comment here.)

Frisch takes me to task on the Framers’ intent to base House representation on the number of Americans in a geographical region naturally implied that these Americans were to be citizens, a notion and term which at that time was in its infancy in our republic (see also its use in revolutionary France).  There was no intent at the framing or later to apportion congressional membership on the basis of the count of foreigners, those who had no loyalty to the newly formed republic, nor the desire to establish their lives there.  

The notion of formal citizenship at the end of the 18th century was therefore somewhat novel.  And as Rivkin and Raile point out, the word ‘citizens’ in the Constitution’s original draft was stylistically changed (by the drafters’ Committee on Style and Arrangement) to the more broadly understood ‘persons’ with the understanding that the original implication of citizenship remained unchanged.   Of course, all these fine points, and the subsequent legal debate on the wordsmithing with respect to redistricting and reapportionment, which I subsequently reference, is missed or cynically ignored by those ideologically bent like Frisch.  We can expect no more from his following.

The bottom line is that our Framers wanted the country’s population count to accurately form the legitimate basis for constituting its legislature.  They were painfully aware of the porosity of America’s borders through which foreigners passed with little or no hindrance, many staying or conducting business for some time and then departing.  None of these were people (men only) intended to be franchised and counted for federal elections, and even most local elections.  That today this history has been mangled by progressive education into some kind of inclusive ‘y’all come and vote’ era is nothing but sinister fiction, imbibed daily for some years now by students that most likely included Steven Frisch.

So, the national debate on including the ‘citizenship question’ in the census continues.  The outcome now slightly favors the Constitution and standing law that specifies it is the prerogative of the Secretary of Commerce (under which the Census Bureau resides) to determine the form and content of the census questionnaire.  The portion of our electorate that endured Great Society education and today consumes lamestream media for its news, if that, is dismally ignorant of the relevant factors that impact this debate.  And local thought leaders like Frisch are in place nationwide to assure that their minions’ horizons are not broadened.

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69 responses to “Post-citizenship America (updated 28apr19)”

  1. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Lets keep this shit in context from the pony tail of ignorance, the truth about the Prez’s actual Charlottesville comments. Keep pretending that antifa was not rioting –
    “You had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. … I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name. … So you know what, it’s fine. You’re changing history. You’re changing culture. And you had people — and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the White nationalists, because they should be condemned totally — but you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and White nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly. Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people. But you also had troublemakers, and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets and with the baseball bats. You had a lot of bad people in the other group.”
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/04/26/joe-biden-donald-trump-charlotttesville-fine-people-neo-nazis-column/3588970002/
    😉

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  2. Paul Emery Avatar

    Why was Lee a Great General Todd? Was it because he was able to kill millions of Union soldiers? What exactly did he do that was “Great” by
    Trumps standards?

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  3. Scott O Avatar

    Ah – so now Paul Emery is caught lying and he tries to side step the issue by making this an issue of whether or not Lee is considered by history to be a great general.
    Sorry Paul – your TDS has caught up with you once again.
    Trying to impugn Trump because he acknowledges a common historical fact is just stupid. Ike cheated on his wife and admired many aspects of the NAZIs. Is he next? Oh, no. Just Trump. MLK jr constantly cheated on his wife and he gets a Natl Holiday.
    Paul Emery tries to tell a stupid lie about Trump and got caught.
    You know what they say about digging yourself into a hole, Emery. Go back and re-read what you originally posted about Trump and then read what he actually said.
    Not the same thing.
    We understand you haven’t got the emotional balance to handle being so desperately wrong about Trump getting elected Pres after shooting your mouth off for months that he had no chance. Just enjoy the crow along with all that popcorn you bought and wait for the next election. Hope springs eternal!

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  4. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Answer the question oh great pony tail of ignorance @my 759!

    ” Why was Lee a Great General Todd? Was it because he was able to kill millions of Union soldiers?”
    It is astonishing that you are so willing to make a fool of yourself so regularly oh great pony tail of ignorance!
    FACT CHECK –
    Approximately 620,000 soldiers died from combat, accident, starvation, and disease during the Civil War. This number comes from an 1889 study of the war performed by William F. Fox and Thomas Leonard Livermore. Both men fought for the Union. Their estimate is derived from an exhaustive study of the combat and casualty records generated by the armies over five years of fighting.
    https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/civil-war-facts
    You have absolutely owned the title Pony tail of ignorance. The snooze has fallen to the wayside but he could make a comeback. You should stick to talking points for lefties ya putin party parrot.
    😉

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  5. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Punchy’s ignorance is showing again. I believe the total number of deaths in the Civil War was around 600,000, not millions. Of course Lee was a great general. West Point and other military academies study Lee’s defensive tactics to this day. Lee’s maneuvers influenced Dwight Eisenhower, Patton, MacArthur, and countless military generals oast and presebt throughout the world.

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  6. Paul Emery Avatar

    So Don you claim that Lee did not kill very many Union soldiers. Why do you consider hm a Great General ?
    Oh pardon me. Lee only killed 360,000 Union soldiers in the Civil war. That’s no problem right Don

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  7. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    None of your bs games oh great pony tail of ignorance your 854 is a mill stone around your neck you will never lose just like your last couple of years of utterly failed prognostications. Ignorance is your stock in trade and you are caught by your lies wallowing in it.
    Show US were your numbers @854 came from………. Just another lying sack of shite otherwise. But at least your are consistent. Consistently ignorantly wrong.
    Time to hand the device to the next bar stool, they couldn’t do any worse.
    I am sure KVMR is thrilled with your leaving a trail of ignorance and lies, but hey you can claim its Trumps fault. Be sure to wear your pink knit hat when you explain it to the bosses.
    😉

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  8. Paul Emery Avatar

    I humbly corrected myself Don. So Lee is your hero. It’s now on the record.

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  9. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    CAreful DonB Paul is putting words and intent into you again.

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  10. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    More lies @952 but hey its what everyone knows to expect from the KVMR fakenews guy AKA the great pony tail of ignorance.
    “So Don you claim that Lee did not kill very many Union soldiers. Why do you consider hm a Great General ?
    Oh pardon me. Lee only killed 360,000 Union soldiers in the Civil war. That’s no problem right Don ”
    Posted by: Paul Emery | 26 April 2019 at 09:38 PM
    Keep digging that hole humbly, you might find gold. LOL
    But here is another problem for your lame rap –
    Humble means “modest; without an excess of pride.” A person who brags about being humble may have too much pride in being humble to actually be humble.
    😉

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  11. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh Don, you Putin cuddler you.

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  12. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    I do like what Scott Adams had to say at the end of the link.
    http://dlvr.it/R3bJZH

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  13. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    SO 713pm
    “Paul – are trying to appear an idiot or what? You claim that “Trumps ideal for a great man is Robert E Lee.” He didn’t say that, but lying about it is par for your course.”
    That’s right, but it wasn’t a lie. Paul completely misrepresented Trump’s words. He doesn’t have the language skills to know the difference between Trump’s words and his mischaracterization of them.
    Paul isn’t trying to appear an idiot. He is an idiot. It comes naturally.
    And Paul, if Lee had accepted the offer to command the Union army, the War Between the States would probably have been shorter.

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  14. George Rebane Avatar

    Gentlemen – you in your enthusiasm for historical debate have strayed from this post’s topic. Get back on subject, or off to the Sandbox.

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  15. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    nuff said
    😉

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  16. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Back on topic: Census.
    “Are you a U.S. citizen?”
    “Only in self-defeating, sovereignty-eroding America is the idea of asking whether people living in America are American citizens for the American census a matter of controversy.
    “But we live in a Trump-deranged age, so now it’s tantamount to an international human rights crime to ask anyone about citizenship status at any time for any reason. Heaven forbid we inconvenience or discomfit legal noncitizens or illegal immigrants with a question.”
    https://patriotpost.us/opinion/62567-beware-soros-funded-hijacking-of-us-census?fbclid=IwAR3vGBj2W5vRVet-fbbDACqA1NjZwGYHBldwWiamEURp7Hvtah1_mI1yzVU

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  17. Scott O Avatar

    BT – really liked this one: “damage all our daily lives for decades.”
    Asking me if I’m a citizen?
    Gee – I was detained and asked that as I drove along an interstate highway.
    I must admit I was pissed that I was detained without probable cause, but was I ‘damaged’ daily ever afterward?
    Trump Derangement Syndrome.
    Stop It.

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  18. L Avatar
    L

    Disappointed in Frisch, George. From years past, he was the most coherent of your blog’s lefties- we last sparred about CA energy sources, probably about six years ago. He seems much angrier and less reasonable these days.

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  19. L Avatar
    L

    Actually, he still is the best spokesperson for the ‘reasoning’ on their side among those frequenting these conversations. Yikes!

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