[The Dems want to bump up SCOTUS membership so that they can also have a majority in that branch of government, and do away with the Electoral College to "make every vote count", and give the Hormonal Hordes with WIP brains the vote. And if that's not enough, then do away with the 1A and 2A, and, aw hell, just do away with the Constitution while we're at it. The fundamental transformation of America as promised. gjr]
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373 responses to “Sandbox – 20mar19”
PaulE 147pm – I thought you could answer it with the implied presumption that Mueller has nothing indictable in his report. I do agree that you shouldn’t be able to indict a sitting president, which means that he’d go directly into a court trial under our judicial branch triad. I think that anything indictable discovered about a president should be first dealt with by Congress as an impeachable offense. In the process, it’s conceivable that Congress could also exonerate him, and in the interval the country would have continuity in the executive branch.
Ozz 207pm – You have a zero batting average in understanding, let alone predicting, my thought and opinions – yet you persist. Remarkable. Focusing one Trump’s tax returns might seem like a fruitful tack for impeachment. Yet it does raise a more thoughtful question – if there’s dirt there, the IRS would have blown the cover off that years ago if not sooner. That bureaucracy has demonstrated itself as being partisan to the hilt, even when they’ve had no evidence to go on – being vindictive has always sufficed. So if Trump’s tax returns had some evidence of culpability, why hasn’t the IRS blown the whistle on him already? Yet, and yet there’s always a possibility of digging something out of years of NY and international real estate dealings that could at least serve an extra-legal propaganda purpose to denigrate Trump before the 2020 election. Every little bit would help.
In any case, I’d be surprised if Trump’s tax returns are so squeaky clean that the Dems could find nothing from which to make hay. That itself is reason enough for him not to have released them. Why hand them the rope with which they would seek to hang you?
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Someone we know, knows how the IRS operates. Did they let you slide?
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So George it’s consistent with your belief that a sitting President cannot be indicted while in office that makes a wait and see what Mueller has opinion legitimate since he may or may not have information that would be indictable for a normal person committing a similar crime.
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Take another rip po’ ol’ fakenewmans @302,I am sure the beto bro would be happy to commiserate with you.
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Why are you celebrating? Trump could not have been indicted by Mueller. But a bunch of his closest business and political allies pled guilty and are going to jail as a result of the Muller investigation, more than those of any other sitting president. Other investigations are ongoing. The report’s contents are not yet public either. And that’s a victory? Well OK then. Let’s see how this plays out in 2020.
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Come now Jeffy,,, Not one damned thing relating to RUSSIA..
Care to switch to Ranch Dressing now?
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Bill Tozer | 23 March 2019 at 02:33 PM
Funny how we heard every day from Paul Emery about what was in the report. And it was all bad for Trump and family. Now here it is and he is hiding under the covers as his whole life’s dream is kaput.
Pelline and his sock puppets are all over the internet. The internet is changing the way we communicate. What a hoot.
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Since the investigation was based of false accusations and pretenses, all those convictions* should be tossed, and records expunged.
The PEE PEE papers were a fabrication and fraud. The warrants were produced on fraud. Judges were lied to.
Yet somehow you will think they are A OK.
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OOZE, come on now show us those tax returns. Or heck just post your 1099’s for us. What do you say bub?
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The po’ ol’ fakenewsman has to hand his hand on a hope and a prayer. No indictments of the Trump brothers, Kushner nor Ivanka as promised eh? No indictments that touched on the Prez. How you splain that? Cant, can ya. Sweet.
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/03/23/photos-street-artist-sabo-calls-out-ilhan-omar-over-her-anti-semitic-remarks/
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Paul Emery must be in hiding. Saying to himself, “all year I wanted the report to indict and now none” What to do? Medication would help. Or hug a goat comfort animal.
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Fat Boy sez:
“But a bunch of his closest business and political allies pled guilty and are going to jail as a result of the Muller investigation, more than those of any other sitting president.”
Oh really????? Neither President has been served well by their associates, abit Mueller has yet to take down a sitting Governor or Associate Attorney General.
“going to jail as a result of the Muller investigation, more than those of any other sitting president.” Care to retract, Fat Boy??
The Clintons were never charged with any crime. Fifteen other people were convicted of more than 40 crimes, including Jim Guy Tucker, who resigned from office.
Jim Guy Tucker: Governor of Arkansas at the time, resigned (fraud, 3 counts)
John Haley: attorney for Jim Guy Tucker (tax evasion)
William J. Marks, Sr.: Jim Guy Tucker’s business partner (conspiracy)
Stephen Smith: former Governor Clinton aide (conspiracy to misapply funds). Bill Clinton pardoned.
Webster Hubbell: Clinton political supporter; U.S. Associate Attorney General; Rose Law Firm partner (embezzlement, fraud)
Jim McDougal: banker, Clinton political supporter: (18 felonies, varied)
Susan McDougal: Clinton political supporter (multiple frauds). Bill Clinton pardoned.
David Hale: banker, self-proclaimed Clinton political supporter: (conspiracy, fraud)
Neal Ainley: Perry County Bank president (embezzled bank funds for Clinton campaign)
Chris Wade: Whitewater real estate broker (multiple loan fraud). Bill Clinton pardoned.
Larry Kuca: Madison real estate agent (multiple loan fraud)
Robert W. Palmer: Madison appraiser (conspiracy). Bill Clinton pardoned.
John Latham: Madison Bank CEO (bank fraud)
Eugene Fitzhugh: Whitewater defendant (multiple bribery)
Charles Matthews: Whitewater defendant (bribery)
Tax returns:
In March 1992, during his presidential campaign, the Clintons acknowledged that on their 1984 and 1985 tax returns, they had claimed improper tax deductions for interest payments made by the Whitewater Development Company. Due to the age of mistake, the Clintons were not obligated to make good the error…
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Walt: “Care to switch to Ranch Dressing now?”
I’ve always wanted to watch someone order a bowl of ranch dressing and a leaf of lettuce to scoop it up with.
In terms of the scorecard of indicted associates, I always assumed it’s just comes from flying too close to the flame. If you apply a fine-tooth comb to the affairs of the various fixers and dogsbodies throughout the years, I would guess that most go to crossbar hotel for a minute or two. Take a James Baker and apply a floor of a building of FBI surveillance gear and accountants, and you get a conviction for something or the other. A Lyndon Johnson would get a million years plus life.
Stage two might be the standard bodycam that cops need to wear when dealing with perps. Everybody goes to jail. No one left to guard.
Perhaps the thing to do is to make fewer things illegal.
My favorite part of the modern era is the perjury charge. Lie/fudge the truth about a legal thing you did, and off to the hoosegow.
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Scenes,, the stock price on Russian dressing has tanked in the last week due the leaks of Muller’s dead hunting dog.
So the witch hunters need to dig locally. Nothing more American than Ranch D. ( 8 out of 10 terrorists on San Juan Ridge agree)
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Yeah Bill, Clinton was a sleaze. What else is new? Didn’t vote for him. Did you vote for Bush in ’04?
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Is Francis threatening civil war?
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/03/23/beto-orourke-if-mueller-report-is-held-america-may-not-see-244th-year/
I doubt it’s war snowflakes can win.
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No changing the subject to BDS now that your supply of rancid Russian dressing has dried up. What ever did you do with all that popcorn you have been warehousing? You know you are going to have to suffer through 6 more years of this don’t you? 2 years of prognostications up in po’ ol’ fakenews smoke.
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Punchy @ 4:37 pm…My comment was directed to the freak of nature grotesque Fat Boy, not you. And this is a good time to remind you that you vowed NEVER to address Walt again. To do otherwise would make you a liar. 🙂
Dr. Rebane @ 2:53 pm
I had to laugh yesterday when as soon as the news hit that Meuller delivered his report to the Attorney General as required by statue, suddenly some “experts” and legal analysts were frantically searching and acted like they had just discovered about indicting (or not) a sitting President, ROFLMAO.
I have posted the two legal rulings on the matter in the past few months, but obliviously I was premature.
For the reader, it is not my opinion, Dr. Rebane’s opinion, or some Max Headroom’s opinion.
The topic came up during the Nixon possible impeachment days. The Office of Legal Counsel, which advisers the President on constitutional matters (and DOJ by extension) issued a legal ruling that a sitting POTUS cannot be indicted for criminal charges while in office.
Later, when the Clinton ‘impeachment’ issues came up, the legal topic was revisited again. The Office of Legal Counsel did another exhaustive and comprehensive look into the constitutional matter, and issued their ruling in 2001 (I believe)…which came to the exact same conclusion.
The founders debated this issue as well. Since there was not a legal precedent at the time, examples going back to 1375 were discussed! In fact, the wording of the Consitution draft was changed to reflect the ‘high crimes and misdemeanors’ wording and put the penalty in the hands of Congress so that political opponents or a cabinet member seeking to take over the high office (happened in the past centuries ago) or some state AGs or whoever could press charges and drag a POTUS in court. The founders and the Office of Legal Counsel figured correctly that the Office of the Presidency required so much time and energy to discharge its duties and responsibilities that criminal charges (indictments) would render the office unable to execute its Constitutional responsibilities.
Bottomline. The Special Prosecutor, all DOJ procesutors, etc..must follow the guidelines and practices of the Justice Department rules. The Book, if you prefer. Mueller’s hands are tied, since he must follow the guidelines, methods, and practices outlined in The Book. If he found anything, it will be in the report. So, hope springs eternal for the TDS inflicted,
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It is Constitutionally impossible to charge any POTUS with obstruction of justice for firing an inferior employee. I have known this for two years, but I figured stay quiet and let the unhinged catch up, 🙂
The Greaser and Kushner are not protected. Meuller did not charge them. He would if he had the goods. No indictments.
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Gosh and Golly Don I was agreeing with Bill that Clinton was a sleaze. Are you supporting Clinton?
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One thing is for sure… This report opens up a whole new case of butthurt. And we thought the election caused a bad outbreak.
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Brother Walt @ 4:56 pm
Yep. Our 18 hours of reprieve are over. They will really start peaking tomorrow evening and be rip snorting Monday morn. Here Rachel Maddcow looked like someone needed to pull her finger. 🙂
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Bill. Another case of Dr. D.J. Trump’s butthurt cream needs to be sent to KVMR. Trump has made an extra billion bucks on the sales.
Investigate that Emery… There may be a crime. Making money off LIB’s pain that he caused. Preparation H may sue for anti trust violations.
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Awww, its really sad to observe the cognitive slide over the years @456 , no comprehension left whatsoever.
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Babs has always been creepy but this is even disgusting for LALA land!
Barbra Streisand says Michael Jackson’s accusers were ‘thrilled to be there’ and his ‘sexual needs were his sexual needs’
https://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/ny-barbra-streisand-michael-jackson-accusers-thrilled-sexual-needs-20190323-7z3b2dqgbzh7jfs4yyhqhdfjyi-story.html
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Expulsion, meh. If you really want to punish the pampered cheaters who only cared about the parties and game days you do this;
Lori Loughlin’s daughters Olivia Jade and Isabella Giannulli were reported last week to have withdrawn from the University of Southern California after their parents’ involvement in the college admissions cheating scandal came to light. But TMZ is now reporting that the university may still take drastic further action on them, going so far as to ban them from the school’s campus permanently.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/olivia-jade-isabella-giannulli-could-105200212.html
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NOOOOOO, My bffs are so shallow they will drop me like a republican!
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For those who remember…….a play off one of the greatest political ads in my lifetime
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZh5ID3u22k
The original….(that LBJ was a somethang else)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Id_r6pNsus
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Ya’ll want bacon and cheese on that double nothing burger sir? Vegan, no we have no vegan.
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I think Paul Emery is actually feeling at one with all the slezey democrats. He sure brings them up all the time. But of course he never voted for them. Trump and I are brothers. What a hoot!
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Liberal guilt knows no bounds –
https://www.thecollegefix.com/american-political-thought-course-at-cu-denver-removes-all-white-men-from-curriculum/
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Walt@5:13PM
By golly, there is such a thing.
https://imgur.com/gallery/xc00E
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Et Tu CNN!
On the evening Robert Mueller submitted his report to the Justice Department, ending the special counsel investigation that has clouded all but a few months of his presidency, President Donald Trump was not huddled in a war room or dictating defiant tweets to his underlings.
Instead he was on the tiled patio of Mar-a-Lago, bathed in golden light, with his wife and son Barron, who had reached teenagerhood two days earlier.
In the eyes of the President and his aides, many of whom traveled to South Florida for the weekend, it was a moment to celebrate: the conclusion of an investigation that did not find enough evidence to indict the President or his confidants for conspiring with Russia to win the 2016 election.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/23/politics/donald-trump-mar-a-lago-robert-mueller/index.html
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Scenes… Want to partner up in sales? We could retire off what we can sell in Nevada City and Truckee.
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Who would expect the people who do not teach the constitution to not violate it, bunch of socialist snowflakes?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/universities-oppose-trump-order-campus-142917347.html
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Sabo strikes again.
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/03/23/photos-street-artist-sabo-calls-out-ilhan-omar-over-her-anti-semitic-remarks/
Would LOVE to find some of his work and swipe it off the street.
It will be worth PLENTY.
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Walt@7:17PM
To be successful ’round these parts, it probably needs to come with an applicator.
https://www.supportplus.com/graphics/products/large/FE0552_WEB_A_X.jpg
re: Trump and the colleges.
That seems to me to be a brilliant political move. Not much is really accomplished, but it backs them into a corner in an amusing way.
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All seems kinda ‘coup-coup’ to me.
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The “silence of the LIBS”…😪😫
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“MAD” Max is off her meds again.. The bender she was on has worn off.
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/03/24/maxine-waters-we-are-well-past-the-time-when-we-should-have-considered-impeachment/
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Walt @ 10:04 am
“Waters said, “This president has a way of trying to get into people’s heads”
Darn, the prove is in the pudding. She should know and know it well. The whole article after her comment is evidence of Trump kicking around in her melon. Trump swept out the cobwebs and made himself at home. Is there nothing Orange Man cannot do?
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Gillibrand rally today. What a friggin bore! And all socialist all the time. The democrats are handing a massive victory to Trump
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Celtic REDNECKS!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r35ONrHrIKY&list=RDr0vZa2hMw0o&index=10
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Interesting, very interesting. I heard reports back then that Hillary’s buddy Bloomenthaul was pushing hard for our intervention in Libya because of some armament contracts with his buddies he was lobbying Hillary for. Money to be made if we can invade. You go girl.
“On October 29, 2009, a Clinton Foundation employee and close Clinton adviser Sid Blumenthal forwarded a proposal for a commercial contract related to improvised explosive devices (IEDs) from retired CIA officer-turned-contractor Gary Berntsen, to Clinton (copying Cheryl Mills), saying that Berntsen had been “unable to break through the bureaucracy with it.” Mills then forwarded the email to Jake Sullivan. Blumenthal noted that “Cody [Shearer] and I are following up.” Blumenthal and Shearer were both implicated in the creation of the Obama administration’s anti-Trump Russia “collusion” counterintelligence operation by providing “reports” relating to Trump-Russia collusion to the U.S. Government.”
https://www.dailywire.com/news/44974/final-batch-emails-clinton-tried-delete-or-destroy-james-barrett?%3Futm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwbrand
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Oh Bobbie, OH BOBBIE!!! Did you see this part? No worries, no convictions. Lying to Congress is OK if your name is Clapper or Holder or Comey or Hillary. Especially Hillary if you try to destroy e-mails subpoenaed by Congress, lol. No convictions, a witch hunt! Guess “witch hunt” is aptly applied to witches.
“Hillary Clinton repeatedly stated that the 55,000 pages of documents she turned over to the State Department in December 2014 included all of her work-related emails,” Judicial Watch explained in its announcement of the release of the final batch of emails. “In response to a court order in another Judicial Watch case, she declared under penalty of perjury in 2015 that she had ‘directed that all my emails on clintonemail.com in my custody that were or are potentially federal records be provided to the Department of State, and on information and belief, this has been done.’ In 2017, the FBI uncovered 72,000 pages of documents Clinton attempted to delete or did not otherwise disclose.”
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The modern university experience thanks to the Alinsky set –
https://www.foxnews.com/us/police-book-3-in-connection-with-reportedly-targeted-dorm-room-fire
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Comrade bernies socialist paradise just invited in Russian troops –
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/767538/russia-invades-venezuela-troops-arrive-maduro-putin
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Its out. Nothing , nothing and more nothing. Did not find that anyone in the Trump campaign or associated individuals or the President colluded, aided or accepted the attempts to aid the campaign.
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Hee hee!
Nothing to see. Move along.
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“In cataloging the presidents actions, many of which took place in public view the report identifies NO action or actions in our judgement constitute obstructive conduct and had a nexus to a pending or contemplated proceeding and were done with corrupt intent each of which under the terms and principles of federal prosecution guiding charging decisions would need to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt to establish an obstruction of justice offence.” AG Report on Muller summary.
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Here ya go, the full letter. Read em and weep boys and girls of the left! Time to burn the pink pussy hat?
https://www.axios.com/mueller-report-bill-barr-investigation-congress-d106072d-0120-4b6b-8cef-cbd6915a0f60.html
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If I were a crow I would be heading to the deep forest because there is going to be a lot of eating crow going on in newsrooms and the halls of congress –
Buckle up, folks. Because the meltdowns we’re about to see concerning the principle conclusions of the Mueller Report via a letter from Attorney General Bill Barr will rival or top those seen on election night 2016.
Upon being read portions of the Barr letter, MSNBC host and one-time Trump campaign correspondent Katy Tur was forced to painstaking admit that Mueller’s findings have “vindicate[d] the President on collusion.”
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/curtis-houck/2019/03/24/msnbcs-tur-mueller-report-vindicates-president-collusion
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500 interviews. Wow. Mueller said he employed 19 lawyers and approximately 40 FBI agents, executing hundreds of search warrants, 10 pen registers, and interviewed approximately 500 witnesses.
Where’s the beef? Ah, here it is. Now assume the fetal position.
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