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Sandbox – 8mar19

08 March 2019

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291 responses to “Sandbox – 8mar19”

Paul Emery

13 March 2019

Lock him up-drain the swamp Manifort pleads guilty, headed to the slam for 7 years.
He will get pardoned by Trump. I’m hoping Trump pardonw him soon but I’m sure he’s not that stupie (but he might be) because of the backlash and his already weak approval ratings. Most likely he’ll wait till after the election. At that point it won’t matter if he wins or loses.
It won’t help manifort with his latest indictment from, NY State Attorney General. Trump sure surrounded himself with crooks and liars.
“New York Charges Manafort With 16 Crimes. If He’s Convicted, Trump Can’t Pardon Him.”
“Paul J. Manafort, President Trump’s former campaign chairman, has been charged in New York with mortgage fraud and more than a dozen other state felonies, the Manhattan district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance, Jr., said Wednesday, an effort to ensure he will still face prison time if Mr. Trump pardons him for his federal crimes.
News of the indictment came shortly after Mr. Manafort was sentenced to his second federal prison term in two weeks; he now faces a combined sentence of more than seven years for tax and bank fraud and conspiracy in two related cases brought by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III.
The president has broad power to issue pardons for federal crimes, but has no such authority in state cases.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/13/nyregion/manafort-indictment.html

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Don Bessee

13 March 2019

Here is one for the pony tail of ignorance, one last time –
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/433826-stormy-daniels-says-she-worries-trump-could-win-again-in-2020
😉

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Gregory

13 March 2019

Punchy 1059am
You changed the subject… So, you’ve given up on punching Born Again Christians for talking like Born Again Christians?

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Walt

13 March 2019

Hear the news? No more executions in Calif. Scum of the earth will continue to live.
Meanwhile,,, those who have yet to even take their first breath, await their death sentence in the MANY abortion clinics. (paid for with our tax dollars)
Rejoice LIBS!! REJOICE!!
Send your gratitude to the VARY pretty Gavin!

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Bill Tozer

13 March 2019

55k a year tuition? Oh my, not even Evergreen College charges that much.
Haters hate and they really hate others having a different point of view. Minority opinions not allowed!
“In November, within hours of the publication of his op-ed, Abrams was harshly targeted by leftists; he wrote:
Within hours, my office door and surrounding corridor was vandalized. Pictures of my family were taken and bumper stickers that I had placed on the door to create a welcoming environment for students were stripped off. The vandals covered my door and surrounding hallway area with hateful paraphernalia intended to intimidate me into leaving the school. I received subsequent threats, and an alumna I have never met claims to be actively working on ways to “ruin my life” while many others are demanding that my tenure be stripped all because I wrote a relatively tame article with which they disagree.
He added, “Following the defacement of my door, I was disappointed by the lack of a clear stand against violence and intimidation, and the lack of support for academic freedom and diversity of thought I expected from the College administrators. In fact, a note I received from a College official described the act as ‘alleged vandalism.’”
(Hmmm. Me thinks it was probably two guys in MAGA hats with a bottle of bleach and a noose that done the dastardly deed.)
https://www.dailywire.com/news/44533/students-color-ny-college-stage-sit-hurl-9-page-hank-berrien
The Demands:
Free meals in a variety of restricted options, for any students in need, including grad students
Staffed food pantry for 300 students per semester. (Somehow this is in addition to the free meal plans?)
Kosher kitchen
Full-time staff position as administrative liaison for first-generation college students
Increase in book, travel, and internship stipends
Redesign the website to be available in more languages and for more non-traditional students
Free storage over summer
Free health insurance
A first-year (that’s freshman for all you non-Sarah Lawrence people, because we’re egalitarian like that) seminar about intellectual elitism and classism
Reduction in some tuition-based fees
Extra info sessions for international students who don’t speak English
Off-campus transit to storage locations and therapy sessions
Seminars on American taxes for international students and counseling for the same
Admit more students with financial need from the Global South, with recruitment efforts
Expand international scholarship funds
Give international students jobs on campus since they are not legally allowed to work in the United States (but if they’re not allowed to work in the United States, and the campus isn’t some specialized diplomatic zone…you see the conundrum).
Two new tenured professors in African diasporic studies, but only one each of Asian, Latinx, and indigenous backgrounds, who will then teach courses in the areas of their ethnicity. (Do they get to teach other stuff? Or must their ethnic and racial backgrounds determine what they can teach?)
Stop taking money from the Koch Brothers. (So this is interesting: The Diaspora Coalition would like the college to spend a grand heap of money, but also would like to give some back? This money isn’t good enough? Is the board supposed to find pure money somewhere? Untouched by heathen hands? Perhaps soaked in the blood of young virgins who died for their purity?)
Revoke tenure for Professor Samuel Abrams (He wrote an op-ed in the New York Times about how school administrators are leftist…crickets? Yeah, me too.)
Add specialized diversity staff, hired only from a pool of people of color, per Title IX: a dean, a director, and an assistant director
Three new therapists, of specific ethnic and racial backgrounds (if they’re on campus, then who do the students need rides to?)
Annual diversity training
Scholarships specifically for students of color for the full four years
An endowment set aside for these scholarships
Annual fundraising goals for the endowment (oh, for sure, yeah, the president of the college and the board don’t try desperately to fund raise as much as possible already. And hey, look how successful they were with the Koch Brothers? Oh, wait, yeah, let’s give that money back, shall we? Good call. Pats on backs all around the daisy chain.)
Stipends for the students with the specialized scholarship, and private housing, and a meal plan, and field trips throughout the year! (Who doesn’t love a field trip?)
Meet all financial needs of all students of color (Is this before or after the funds are secured in the endowment?)
Guaranteed work study (Maybe someone wants to be the new dean? Or drive those cars to therapy? Staff the food pantry? Best way to make some jobs, spend some money you don’t have.)
$500 per semester to eight identity specific student groups. (So $8,000 per year for segregated clubs!)
Land acknowledgment. (Sure, surprised we didn’t have this already, frankly.)
No repercussions for missing work study or class for participating in protests. (Because yeah, no one should have to make tough choices or prioritize one thing over another.)
http://thefederalist.com/2019/03/13/spoiled-students-insist-uber-left-sarah-lawrence-racist-tuition-expensive/

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Paul Emery

13 March 2019

“Thou shalt not kill” Walt You are the one claiming to be a good Christian. Do you believe in the then Commandments?

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Gregory

13 March 2019

Then Commandments?
A lay Rabbi once convinced me Thou Shalt Not Kill was mistranslated… the word used for Kill is better translated to Murder.
Thou Shalt Not Murder is different, yes?

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fish

13 March 2019

Posted by: Gregory | 13 March 2019 at 01:42 PM
The imperative to not kill is in the context of unlawful killing resulting in bloodguilt.
Gregory already got it…….!
Punchy maybe 30 seconds with Wikipedia before you slip into full proggy outrage mode and start beatin your gums would be a good move.

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George Rebane

13 March 2019

PaulE 137pm – “kill” in that commandment means ‘murder’ or unlawful killing. Neither the Jews nor Christians had any inhibitions against legal killings as in lawful executions and war.

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George Rebane

13 March 2019

Apologies for my redundant 147pm. TypePad did not post the interceding comments in a timely manner.

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scenes

13 March 2019

Paul Emery, in the voice of Yosemite Sam sez: “”Paul J. Manafort, President Trump’s former campaign chairman, ”
From Wikipedia:
referring to Manafort’s tenure as campaign manager:
“June 20, 2016, Trump fired campaign manager Corey Lewandowski and promoted Manafort to the position.”
“On August 17, 2016, Donald Trump received his first security briefing.[54] The same day, August 17, Trump shook up his campaign organization in a way that appeared to minimize Manafort’s role. ”
So, basically Manafort was a campaign manager for less than two months so far as I can tell. Am I reading this wrong Paul?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Manafort#Chairman_of_Donald_Trump's_2016_campaign

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Paul Emery

13 March 2019

That’s a deft and predictable response George. So “Thou shall not kill” also means “Thou shall not kill unless it’s sanctioned and directed by thou’s government” Is that an accurate interpretation of your 1:47?
The “Christians” historically were agents of genocide and slaughter during the inquisition, colonialism and invasions of weaker cultures. Is that also sanctified as righteous killings under your interpretation of the Ten Commandments?

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Gregory

13 March 2019

So, what heinous, illegal acts during his two months of active Trump duty is Manafort accused or convicted of?
From what I can gather, nothing relates to his time with the Trump campaign.

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Gregory

13 March 2019

Golly, Punch, you’ve broken the code!
Christians often fail in following all of the ten commandments! And so are imperfect Christians! We need NOMAD!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6o881n35GU
Where’s Jimmy Carter, who famously failed to keep lust out of his heart when thinking about someone else’s wife. NOMAD, sic’ em!

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Bill Tozer

13 March 2019

Darn, I swatted a skeeter yesterday and killed a tick that was digging into the dog. And….drumroll please…..I done ripped out and killed some poison oak vines. The horror, the horror, not to mention what I did to that squash last summer. The iceberg lettuce screamed for mercy before I done killed it and then ate it up. Confession is good for the soul.
Good to see Punchy clinging to the Good Book and thumping on it. Now, hope he don’t turn into a bitter clinger. I always thought the 1st Commandment and the last one were kinda important. The last one says don’t covert your neighbors stuff. Keep your hands off. Hear that you 99%ers? Get that covet out of here and out of your heart. Of course, the 1st Commandment is the biggie.

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George Rebane

13 March 2019

PaulE 157pm – Yep, that’s about it – render unto Caesar, and all that. As to all the other killings, I’m not sure that any of the ‘letters of marque’, that commissioned the inquisitors, colonials, and militaries, contained explicit instructions to kill the indigenous. But history shows that ‘Accept (Allah, Christ, Yahweh, Huitzilopochtli, Marx/Lenin, …) or die!’ was pretty much the deal offered by almost all dominant civilizations at one time or another during their expansions. Where are you going with all this?

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scenes

13 March 2019

Gregory: “From what I can gather, nothing relates to his time with the Trump campaign.”
Of course not.
I think that the single thing that I’ve found most outrageous in reading this blog is the output from the writers from the world of ‘news’.
I don’t mind the barroom political banter between the various named folks and the noms de guerre, but when Paul Emery and his doppelgänger Mr. Pelline show up with half truths, poorly sourced information, and general BS, you do have to wonder about ‘news’ generally. You would think that people would have a bit of professional pride, but perhaps that is left at the gate when they plonk their butts down at a keyboard.
It’s scary to think about the people who actually have achieved at least a little prominence in that world. There’s no reason to think that a news director at CNN is any smarter or adept than Mr. Emery.

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Paul Emery

13 March 2019

So it is apparent that religious icons-gods etc have little effect on human behavior. With that being said what’s the point of religion if we just “render unto Ceaser etc and have to no remorse for what we do. Example: the Crusades or the sport killing of native Californians by rampaging Europeans.

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fish

13 March 2019

Posted by: Paul Emery | 13 March 2019 at 01:57 PM
The “Christians” historically were agents of genocide and slaughter during the inquisition, colonialism and invasions of weaker cultures. Is that also sanctified as righteous killings under your interpretation of the Ten Commandments?
You spelled “government” wrong Punchy!

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Bill Tozer

13 March 2019

Manafort sentencing explained. Meuller had mercy on the man. I bet everyone from Willie Nelson to the very Reverend Al Sharpton is paying attention and calling their lawyers and tax consultants as we speak.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/03/manaforts-light-sentence-in-washington-owes-to-how-mueller-charged-him/

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Paul Emery

13 March 2019

Yeah scenes it took a lot of mental giants to elect Trump as President of the United States. Collective intelligence right?

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Gregory

13 March 2019

“So it is apparent that religious icons-gods etc have little effect on human behavior.”
Punch, is it the lack of verifiable perfection that leads you to the conclusion of there’s “little effect on human behavior” by religion?

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Bill Tozer

13 March 2019

Laura Southern sneak preview of new documentary Borderless: ISIS Migration to Europe. Kill atheists, Christians, Kurds.. Clip from Greece refugee camp
https://m.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR2Vg424FwhThkKz9CswmdYGTLJNJ_yNUKROQT2D-usKkJoByELKh6UUf1Y&v=7iMMELu1LHY

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Walt

13 March 2019

DAMN Paul,, all in a huff. Yet still pro baby killer. Kill the innocent, devoid of sin (LIBS now count conception as a sin apparently), yet let the murdering scum live.
Nice morality you have there. Now who was saying something about having the morals of a nutless ally cat?
Yup,, this would apply….

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Paul Emery

13 March 2019

So sensing the drift you are putting to the conversation 2:32 it seems apparent that “religion” means very little to most people in the world since they are willing to dump their religious faith any time and slaughter fellow human beings at the request of their “government” or whatever you want to call it.

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Gregory

13 March 2019

It’s Alinsky’s 4th Rule:
“Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”
Rules for Radicals, AKA Aristotle for Dummies.
Unfortunately, as an agnostic (pronounced A-nostik) I don’t have a set of rules. More of a list of suggestions that look remarkably like the Ten Commandments.

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Walt

13 March 2019

That’s it Emery, justify your support of baby killing any way possible.
People of faith never had a problem of killing those who really deserve it. Nice try.
Better read history again.

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Gregory

13 March 2019

“The old principle: who does not work shall not eat, has been replaced with a new one: who does not obey shall not eat.”
-Trotsky

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Paul Emery

13 March 2019

Show me where I support baby killing Walt. A quote will do.

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Gregory

13 March 2019

Walt, I recall an apocryphal story of frontier justice:
“Judge, you just let a killer go, and sentenced a horse thief to hang! Why?”
to which the judge replied,
“I’ve seen men who needed to be killed but I never saw a horse that needed to be stolen.”

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Walt

13 March 2019

Look who Emery wants to keep alive.
LAWRENCE BITTAKER
Dubbed by the media as the “Tool Box Killer”, Bittaker was one half of a sadistic duo convicted of raping and killing five teen girls in 1979 after torturing them with household items such as pliers and screwdrivers.
RANDY KRAFT
Kraft, who came to be known as the “Scorecard Killer,” murdered at least 16 young men over a period of 11 years beginning in 1972. He is also believed to have committed the rape and murder of up to 51 other boys and young men, with many victims who had previously been enlisted in the U.S. Marine Corps.
MARCUS WESSON
Wesson, the former leader of a cult-like clan, was convicted for killing nine of his children in 2004 – all of which he had fathered with his wife, daughters and nieces, in a sickening tale of incest and sexual abuse. He killed the children – seven of which were under the age of 9 — after a standoff with police in Fresno over a custody dispute.
All those children can be concerned just “post birth” abortions as defined by Emery…

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Walt

13 March 2019

Ahhhhh The old Emery line.. “show me”.. You ain’t from Missouri Emery.
YOU show us when you sided with the Right to Life.
( Grand Dad was from Missouri..It counts There is a town with our family name. Double counts) Yes, Emery “SHOW ME”…

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AVMan

13 March 2019

,,,how did Super Dweeb Jared Kushner get into Harvard??? His daddy bought his way in to the tune of $2.5 Million. Now he is Trump’s director of Mid East policy. Sounds about par for the Trump course…
“In 2006, ProPublica editor Daniel Golden stumbled on Kushner’s admission while writing a book about how wealthy donors to elite colleges routinely get their kids who otherwise wouldn’t make the cut into those schools. While investigating Harvard’s Committee on University Resources, a.k.a. donors, for The Price of Admission, Golden discovered that both Kushner’s parents, Charles and Seryl, were members. He also found that in 1998, when then-unknown New Jersey high school student Jared was looking at colleges, Charles Kushner pledged a gift of $2.5 million to Harvard, to be paid in annual installments of $250,000. Jared eventually graduated from the college in 2003.
Which seemed like an extraordinary feat to those who knew Kushner in high school: “There was no way anybody in the administrative office of the school thought he would on the merits get into Harvard,” a former official at The Frisch School in Paramus, New Jersey, told Golden. “His GPA did not warrant it, his SAT scores did not warrant it. We thought for sure, there was no way this was going to happen. Then, lo and behold, Jared was accepted. It was a little bit disappointing because there were at the time other kids we thought should really get in on the merits, and they did not.”

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Ozz

13 March 2019

Walt 3:45-
These bad guys all committed heinous crimes while the death penalty was being exercised. Did it stop them? Has the death penalty ever prevented a murder? I rather doubt it.
To be sure I voted against the death penalty, not because of any moral compunction, but because it was an insane waste of our tax dollars to go through the death penalty circus when life imprisonment was going to serve the same end at a fraction of the cost.

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Bill Tozer

13 March 2019

Pro death penalty and pro life? Pro choice and anti-death penalty? Justice or mercy? Higher good? Lesser evils? Ah, the ole seemingly contradictions, but are they?
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Paul makes a valid point that men have asked for centuries. On the whole, what good have religions done? And like most non-Christians or others, he races immediately to the Crusades. Nothing new there. I used that one myself a time or two back in the day to neatly avoid deeper issues. One’s own mortality is but one of the deeper issues along with the meaning of life.
Yes, I could point out that the Cruscades and the Inquisition have killed a few hundred thousand over century or two to justify wholesale condemn the group. I could point out the atheist regimes (Communism mostly) have killed tens of millions. 100 million in just the last century? 60 million? There are no accurate accounts of how many millions were purged (slaughtered) in Red China or even how many millions were starved during the Ukrainian famine due to Stalin’s agricultural policies of the early 1930’s. And there are the minor dictators and assorted madmen throughout history. All communist regimes from the Khmer Rouge to the big boys have in their wake a trail of misery, death, suppression, and attacks on religion, Christians in particular. Feed them to the lions! And Jewish prescution predates Christianity.
There is no way to prove it, but I believe all humans are born with an inmate believe in God, be the G word however one understands or does not understand the G word. And some, like moi once, go to great lengths to push that innate believe far down within, hoping never it reaches the light of day. Why else would primitive peoples through history build monuments to unknown beings, from Kon Tikis, to mythology, to ancient forgotten tribes? It is part of our natures, whether we like it or not, whether we believe it or not. It’s just there. And that’s my opinion and my opinion is important only to me.
When the idea of Intelligent Design caught some traction among scientists, I remember Stephen Hawking angrily decrying the concept most bitterly, saying his whole life’s work would be of naught if there was such a thing as Intelligent Design. His whole life’s work was to disprove Intelligent Design. I listened quietly and thought of some ancient words written long ago, “A man says there is no God, yet his heart rages against God.”
Anyway, not are religions are equal or goood, not alll cultures are good or equal, and no one has lived up to their philosophical beliefs and moral convictions. Just ask any husband or wife about their mates being 100% perfect all the time. To err is human.
With all that out of the way, the Left worldwide rages against the Judo-Christian tradition and their religions. No one raged against the monks who recently visited Nevada County. There is something about Jews and Christians and that gets communists, Stalinists, Maoists, dictatorships, and statists up in arms. A threat. A real threat. And the Leftinistas are so blinded by arrogance that they think they can redesign human nature and redesign humanity into some ideal of a new civilization that has never existed
…because precisely of that same human nature and human civilization.
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Revolutions are very bloody processes. Usually much bloodier than the regime they replace. The French celebrate the storming of the Bastille fortress and prison in the revolution in their Bastille Day holiday. But the monarchy the revolution deposed was so mild and nonviolent in comparison with the revolution that followed it, that the Bastille contained only seven prisoners when it was taken. By contrast, members of the garrison were butchered after the prison was seized in the revolutionary violence.
“…….inscribed on the Arc de Triomphe in Paris, at the top of the 15th column, along with those of other heroes who fought for the principles enshrined in the French Revolution’s original motto: “LIBERTY, EQUALITY, FRATERNITY—OR DEATH”

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Walt

13 March 2019

Well Hells Bells Ozzzborn,,, Lets do away with speeding tickets.
End DUI convictions while your at it.. They keep right on speeding and drinking.
What use is the rule of law? (dumbass)
No one said it would end killing. But sure as hell guarantees THEY won’t be able to do it again.

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Gregory

13 March 2019

Here’s a classic line that was and is funny as hell:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdhZjVE6_Dw
“… it was a really big check”
Malia Obama got into Harvard on her merits.
Think about it.
Ohhhh…. David Hogg also got into Harvard on his merits.
Yep. For sure. Yessirree Bob!

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Ozz

13 March 2019

Walt-
They haven’t executed anyone in CA for over a dozen years. I’d rather not waste the money on appeals and special consideration at San Q when they could be tossed into General at Folsom for a fraction of the cost. And maybe get some payback.
I can attest that speeding tickets slow me down.
Never had a DUI, but you sound like a pro so I’ll take your word for it. Wonder what Todd would blow after gargling with Aqua Velva.

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Gregory

13 March 2019

“Never had a DUI, but you sound like a pro so I’ll take your word for it.”
-“Ozz”
It’s easy to lie behind a sock puppet facade, isn’t it, “Ozz”?

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Todd Juvinall

13 March 2019

The death penalty is simply the ultimate justice for someone who murders. An “eye for and eye” so to speak. For some reason, lefty loons will murder a baby at birth by sucking its brains out and if still alive allow it to die by leaving them on a tangle next to the bed. But these same liberals then try to toss their guilt onto those that say someone that murders as an adult show not be executed. I say line them up and get them off the planet. Californians agree with me by their ywo votes in the last decade. So I will be joining the people that will relentlessly beat these liberals (including Newsome) over the head with the pictures of the murdered and their murderers. Until they resign in disgrace or are recalled.

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Bill Tozer

13 March 2019

For most kids, college is about the “experience.” For parents, it’s about social status and credentials. For administrators, it’s about money. For many professors, it’s about ideological indoctrination. Few people in any of these groups care about the actual education.“ —Matt Walsh

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Ozz

13 March 2019

Todd 6:12
“Until they resign in disgrace or are recalled.”
Good one Todd! Keep at it.

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Bill Tozer

13 March 2019

Working man pushes back.
“We welcome the call for labor rights and dialogue with labor, but the Green New Deal resolution is far too short on specific solutions that speak to the jobs of our members and the critical sections of our economy,” the letter, signed by 10 national labor unions on the AFL-CIO’s energy committee, says.
“We will not accept proposals that could cause immediate harm to millions of our members and their families,” the letter says. “We will not stand by and allow threats to our members’ jobs and their families’ standard of living go unanswered.”
https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/03/12/immediate-harm-to-millions-afl-cio-tears-apart-green-new-deal/

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Bill Tozer

13 March 2019

Keep AOC in front of the cameras. please. Please, oh please.
—“Why was the bank involved in the caging of children and financing the caging of children to begin with?” Ocasio-Cortez asked.
“I don’t know how to answer that question because we weren’t,” Sloan replied flatly.
—She asked if Wells Fargo should pay for spills from the Keystone XL pipeline, but Sloan responded that they didn’t directly finance that pipeline. She had to move on.
—Ocasio-Cortez then asked if they should be liable for global warming effects from their pipeline financing.
“I don’t know how’d you calculate that, congresswoman,” Sloan replied.
“Say from spills, or when we have to reinvest in infrastructure building sea walls from the erosion uh, of,” Ocasio-Cortez stammered, “um, from the erosion of infrastructure or cleanups, wildfires, et cetera.”
“Related to that pipeline?” Sloan asked. “I’m not aware that there’s been any of what you’ve described that’s occurred that’s related to that pipeline.”
Ocasio-Cortez, clearly growing impatient, demanded to know why Wells Fargo shouldn’t pay for clean up from theoretical spills in the future that haven’t happened yet.
“Because we don’t operate the pipeline,” he responded, “we provide financing to the company that’s operating the pipeline.”
https://www.theblaze.com/news/ocasio-cortez-tries-to-knock-out-wells-fargo-ceo-during-questioning-and-embarrasses-herself-instead?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=dwbrand&fbclid=IwAR1UY4Bl5UsnmxhEk1UqryLUO43BttC21GC8Ra9HD_vodbM1sLi7BypfRUM

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Walt

13 March 2019

Where did Emery go? He was going to show us where he agreed with the pro life side.

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Walt

13 March 2019

That’s right Bill. RED Cortez was showing her brilliance.
Just throw blame out there, hoping it sticks.
Yes Proggys, you sure got a winner there.

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Gregory

13 March 2019

Toes 622pm
Funny… I actually had a professor who had been a spy for the Soviet Union during WWII… and he didn’t try to indoctrinate me or anyone else that I know of in the ’70’s.
He did try to teach us some physics, with some success.
The “experience” was a key aspect but the education was the central piece of the puzzle. It probably helped that we all went to a college that didn’t have any kind of reputation outside of the sciences.

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Paul Emery

13 March 2019

I believe in a woman’s right to choose up to 12 weeks. After that there needs to be evidence of danger to the woman’s child or health in order to proceed. Where do you stand on that Walt?

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Walt

13 March 2019

Now wasn’t there a joke that went something like this ?
https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/13/italy-investigate-rape-victim-ugly/
“Italy’s Justice Ministry will investigate a court’s 2017 ruling acquitting two men of rape convictions after it found the victim was too ugly to be a credible witness.”

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Bill Tozer

13 March 2019

Keep AOC in front of the cameras every single day.
Finally, she settled on her most damning line of attack: America as it currently stands is “garbage,” because in the United States, “if you don’t have a job, you are left to die.”
That’s an odd critique given the long history of death associated with socialism — some 45 million deaths under Mao, some 30 to 40 million under Stalin and some 2 million under Pol Pot, for starters. But it’s an even odder critique given the fact that life expectancy has radically increased under capitalism: In 1850, the average European life expectancy was 36.3 years, while today, the average life expectancy across Europe stands at approximately 80. Furthermore, the United States currently boasts effective full employment. Our poor are in danger of dying of obesity, not starvation. And we spend, on a state and federal level, at least $1.1 trillion per year on means-tested welfare programs. By census data, that amounts to nearly $9,000 per household in the United States annually, or nearly $28,000 for every person living in poverty in the United States.
But let’s take Ocasio-Cortez’s argument to the logical extreme. Presumably, she’s in favor of these expensive government programs and thinks that in their absence, the poor would be left to die in the United States. Is that true?
Absolutely not. Ocasio-Cortez makes the same mistake so many on the left do: She conflates government redistributionism with the social fabric itself. In her view, there is no social fabric absent government.”
https://patriotpost.us/opinion/61718-government-isnt-the-social-fabric?fbclid=IwAR0k7Smf3v4DDOkYWvukbViHmmyIuGLEJwHKlC7hJYQ8kIHz2eCgcSn51B4
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