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Sandbox – 8mar19

08 March 2019

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291 responses to “Sandbox – 8mar19”

George Rebane

11 March 2019

PaulE 853pm – Do you think that it is somehow reprehensible, ignorant, politically incorrect, … for Sanders to publicly express her own belief viz Trump’s election?

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Todd Juvinall

11 March 2019

Scenes has it right. Thank GOD Trump got elected. Hillary and Paul Emery would have driven the country into the ground by now. Funny though how Paul Emery does not hold his democrat pals to the same standards. Pelosi and other top dems have cited their “moral” thoughts to running the place. And also mention GOD a lot. But that is why PE has no creds here.
As far as Trump saying Tim Apple. Yes he said it. An error we all make from time to time. I call my brother by my sons name and vice versa sometimes. It just happens. But the media thinks it is crucial. What a hoot!

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Paul Emery

11 March 2019

Not at all George. She’s entitled to her opinion. I just think her religious inspiration is a bit bizarre. I mean did her Guy in the Sky God actually contemplate that what we needed was a Trump type to straight things out to his liking then with a wave of his cape invent Donald Trump to become the savior of Christians and the USA?

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George Rebane

11 March 2019

PaulE 1007am – I think you’ll have to find someone else to indulge your follow-on fascinations with Sanders’ statement. But if you’re really serious about the theology involved here, I recommend John Sanders’ ‘The God Who Risks’ treatise on open theology.
https://smile.amazon.com/God-Who-Risks-Theology-Providence/dp/0830828370/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_1?
Many scientists and techies, including me, share this view of God and ‘his’ role in the universe, or better, the universe’s role in ‘him’. FYI, open theology is not uniformly shared in Christianity.

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Bill Tozer

11 March 2019

@9:53 am Triggger Warning: Controversial and no doubt will offend many….
Did God raise up Donald Trump?
Interesting conversation. No way to prove it and no way to disprove it. Recently listened to a couple of interviews by an old author peddling his latest book. An agnostic, born and raised by two card carrying Communists in NY. He puts forth the agrument that Protestant Christianity (sorry Catholics) is the origins of the individual liberties we have today, from women’s rights, civil rights, religious liberty, and the list goes on and on.
He traces it back to the Reformation where prior to that the Christians in Europe had to go through the Catholic Church clergy for Absolution for sins. The Refomation removed that step and made man accountable directly to God without the middle man. The individual, individual responsibility, and indivual accountability. Those that fled England to the New Word came over to practice Protestantism. One can see the roots of that individualism in Rights bestowed by the Creator and the founding, limited government. Who did the Pilgrims give thanks to on the first Thanksgiving? To themselves? Interesting proposition put forth by an agnostic.
The recent eruption over Ilhan Omar’s statements and those defending her using intersectionality, group identity, identity politics to absolve her from individual accountability was quite telling and exposed another telling rift in the Great Divide.
I often wondered why when Mao took over China, the number two person on his top hit list behind Chiang Kai-shek was a relatively unknown Christian author who was not involved in government or politics. I see now he was an ideological threat to Comminism and the herd mentality. The group above the individual.
From a different link I posted on another thread that dovetails with this train of though.
“America is the only country in the world founded on a belief in limited government. It is a uniquely American value. And that is precisely the problem: It is uniquely American. Very few immigrants to America bring with them a belief in limited government.”
The book by a devout anti-communist agnostic.. I probably won’t buy it, but one never knows.
https://www.amazon.com/DARK-AGENDA-Destroy-Christian-America/dp/163006114X

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Walt

11 March 2019

Well,, Paul’s worshiping of rocks played out well,, well,, before he decided those rocks,, were just that… Rocks.
Then decides he will follow whatever “religion” he decides to follow on any given week.
I have to agree with her. Thank GOD Trump was elected. Paul would be fighting for scraps today if Hillary was elected. Or maybe just would die in the Kmart pharmacy line. You know,, that “free health care” he was hoping for.

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Paul Emery

11 March 2019

Thanking God is one thing Walt. Believing Trump was installed by God, as Sarah Sanders clearly stated is another. Do you agree with Sarah Sanders when she says “I think that he wanted Donald Trump to become president, and that’s why he’s there’?

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Bill Tozer

11 March 2019

Agenda 21 Wildlands Project….circling the barn
Land…cannot be treated as an ordinary asset, controlled by individuals and subject to the pressures and inefficiencies of the market. Private land ownership is also a principal instrument of accumulation and concentration of wealth and therefore contributes to social injustice; if unchecked, it may become a major obstacle in the planning and implementation of development schemes. The provision of decent dwellings and healthy conditions for the people can only be achieved if land is used in the interests of society as a whole. Public control of land use is therefore indispensable.…” (Italics added)
Throughout this UN document the socialist model for private property rights are set forth as the basis for future United Nations policy:
Public ownership or effective control of land in the public interest is the single most important means of…achieving a more equitable distribution of the benefits of development…. Governments must maintain full jurisdiction and exercise complete sovereignty over such land…. Change in the use of land…should be subject to public control and regulation…of the common good. (Italics added)
Our vision is simple: we live for the day when Grizzlies in Chihuahua have an unbroken connection to Grizzlies in Alaska; when Gray Wolf populations are continues from New Mexico to Greenland; when vast unbroken forests and flowing plains again thrive and support pre-Columbian populations of plants and animals; when humans dwell with respect, harmony, and affection for the land…3
http://rangefire.us/2019/03/09/agenda-21-wildlands-project-what-you-need-to-know/?fbclid=IwAR0JabYVYewfToTXSzmtHwxBsLJeG8cwkTf2_Z3xILVPccmUn22w9pxD4kQ

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Todd Juvinall

11 March 2019

What is wrong thinking GOD wanted Trump? I think it is great! Better than Goat lovers and sheep handlers in charge.

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Paul Emery

11 March 2019

Todd
Do you “think” God prefers Republicans over Democrats?

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Todd Juvinall

11 March 2019

Well, of course, GOD does. You secularists don’t believe in him so take your medicine.

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Walt

11 March 2019

Emery.. Consult your granite slab, and the ring of quartz crystals.
Let us know what they say.

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Don Bessee

11 March 2019

Too woke and pissing off everyone, not bad for a Monday –
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/alyssa-milano-gets-backlash-tweeting-im-trans-im-person-color-im-immigrant-132736541.html
😉

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Don Bessee

11 March 2019

Anyone near the po’ ol’ fakenewsman get him to his fainting couch!
https://www.axios.com/nancy-pelosi-impeaching-trump-not-worth-it-ecaf3447-5a00-45f2-9e54-3aab287f32d1.html
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Paul Emery

11 March 2019

So Todd believes God watches Fox News every day to see how Trump is doing and sends encouragements to Sarah Sanders to get the word out that he’s on board with MAGA movement.

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Walt

11 March 2019

Is that what the $29.95 crystal skull is telling you Emery?
How many chickens lost their lives for the reading?

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Walt

11 March 2019

Since Emery is now the self appointed expert about religion,
then an explanation of why LIBS hate the Jews is in order.

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Bill Tozer

11 March 2019

Lol. AOC’s brother put AOC’s name in a casting call that went out. That’s how it all got started. She did not even know until they called her for an interview.
—But an interesting aspect of the “Mr. Reagan” video is that it puts that in perspective for us by developing the case that Ocasio-Cortez was recruited via a sort of “casting call” to be a prototype Justice Democrats candidate. She came in without an electoral politics background and with no political experience, other than reportedly joining the pipeline protest at Standing Rock for a brief period.
So it’s certainly informative that the first thing such a candidate did was get embedded in the funding mechanism.
For those who aren’t sure quite what to believe about the “casting call” characterization, I suggest watching this Justice Democrats video, starting in particular at the 2:00 mark. In a conversation with Chakrabarti, Rojas, and Trent, Ocasio-Cortez describes how her brother nominated her for the Justice Democrats vetting process, and she went through a series of what were basically auditions, until she was selected to go to Kentucky for what the theater world would call a “reading.” Justice Democrats apparently called it a “summit.”
https://libertyunyielding.com/2019/03/11/video-makes-case-radical-movement-running-ocasio-cortez-wants-to-take-over-dem-party/
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Justice Democrats
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/02/04/the-insurgents-behind-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-224542
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Interesting to note the Green New Deal as written over one weekend .

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Bill Tozer

11 March 2019

A link
https://babylonbee.com/news/joseph-stalin-posthumously-identifies-as-strong-woman-of-color-to-deflect-criticism-of-socialist-policies?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro
and some quotes:
For the record: “The caricature of environmentalists is that they are just using climate change as a stalking horse for their true agenda, which is to socialize the entire economy. And lo and behold, what does the Green New Deal resolution call for? Net zero carbon emissions in 10 years, universal health care, guaranteed jobs for all, paid family leave, paid vacations, refurbishing every single building in the country to meet environmental standards, eliminating nuclear power and on and on. In fact, most of the resolution doesn’t even address climate change.” —Mona Charen
Friendly fire: “We can’t be only upset with Trump. … His policies are bad, but many of the people who came before him also had really bad policies. They just were more polished than he was. And that’s not what we should be looking for anymore. We don’t want anybody to get away with murder because they are polished. We want to recognize the actual policies that are behind the pretty face and the smile.” —Ilhan Omar (Omar feels not rebuked but emboldened. She voted for a resolution to condemn generic “hate” and then promptly attacked the Democrats’ Dear Leader.)
Race bait: “The founders were imperfect geniuses. They wrote a lot of our bigotries into [the Constitution].” —Cory Booker
Demo-gogues: “I always used to laugh when people would say about my tax policies: ‘He just wants to tax you to death.’ First of all, I’m the guy who pays the max tax. … For me to be able to pay my fair share of sustaining this amazing nation so kids coming up behind me are going to have the same opportunities that I do is something that I insist upon.” —Barack Obama
The BIG Lie: “It is a fact that we can change human behaviors without much change to our lifestyle and we can save the future generations of our country and this world.” —Kamala Harris (What about “get your laws off my body”?)
Shot across the Left’s bow: “The central and most serious question in this investigation, the reason Robert Mueller started it: Did the current president of the United States assist the Kremlin in an attack on our democracy? And if Mueller, after two years, comes back and says, ‘I don’t have the evidence to support that charge,’ that’s a reckoning. That’s a reckoning for progressives and Democrats who hoped that Mueller would essentially erase the 2016 election. It’s a reckoning for the media. It’s a reckoning across the country if in fact after all this time there was no collusion.” —ABC’s Terry Moran
And last… “The New York Times editorialized the other day that Trump declared ‘that there’s a crisis at the border, contrary to all evidence.’ Then, the paper ran a news story headlined, ‘Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month.‘ Both of those pieces can’t be right. There’s manufacturing a crisis, then there’s ignoring one for fear of conceding anything to Trump.” —Rich Lowry
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Bonus: Hell hath froze over
Even Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer couldn’t fault Mr. Trump this time. “I was pleased to see the president recognize North Korea’s unwillingness to strike a comprehensive deal,” he said. “President Trump did the right thing by walking away and not cutting a poor deal for the sake of a photo op.”

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Gregory

11 March 2019

Punchy
Let me translate Modern Christian for you:
If it happened, it can be considered to be God’s Will. Period.
An alleluia! can be added if one wishes to celebrate God’s will and you’re talking to anothe Christian.
If Trump had lost, that would also have been God’s Will. Especially when one Christian is talking to another.
There is nothing terrible about this… it’s just their way.
Whichever it is, it takes prayer to decide what that means.
Does that make you feel better?

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Todd Juvinall

11 March 2019

Paul Emery | 11 March 2019 at 01:49 PM
I realize you get your instructions while dancing naked on a rock at the Yuba River. I don’t question that. Even when you sacrifice a goat and dissect its entrails I even accept that is your gig for religion. In my case, yes, GOD talks to many of us, some deserving some not.

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AVMan

11 March 2019

,,,gosh, people are ranting and raving over AOC and that Muslim gal. Try to remain calm. They are just the Congressional Froshies who are on the learning curve.
,,,remember when a clueless businessman became President? People thought he was out of control…
But now we know he is a very stable genius brought by God to save the MAGA meatheads!!!

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Walt

11 March 2019

“a clueless businessman”.. Really? How so? He’s outsmarted every damned Lefty and made the U.S. a MUCH better place.
I guess that’s how one can get when your an anally violated dude.
Did Trump “do that”?

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AVMan

11 March 2019

,,,I see you got ‘stumped’ again Walter

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Don Bessee

11 March 2019

Comrade de blasé is taking away kids meat because, global warming!
“We’re expanding Meatless Mondays to all public schools to keep our lunch and planet green for generations to come.”
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mayor-de-blasio-nyc-will-have-meatless-mondays-in-all-public-schools
😉

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AVMan

11 March 2019

,,,This is something the ‘walls work’ believers will never understand
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/cbp-agent-gave-drug-trafficking-organization-keys-fences-161015768.html

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Don Bessee

11 March 2019

Hey look the troll just found out about drug money fueled corruption! LOL
😉

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Bill Tozer

11 March 2019

When the Wall gets built, it will be the first Wall in history that does not work…according to the schizophrenic Dems, lol.

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fish

11 March 2019

Posted by: AVMan | 11 March 2019 at 03:35 PM
,,,This is something the ‘walls work’ believers will never understand
That’s very true……if you’re being undermined from the inside you’re screwed! So we should just invite all 42 million who say that they would like to live here in!

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AVMan

11 March 2019

,,,poor Donnie,,,that is why it would be more effective to legalize drugs and make them here in the USA!!!

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Bill Tozer

11 March 2019

How schizo are the Dems? Poll says 60% say the Dems would prefer their Presidential candidate to not be an old white heterosexual male. Same poll shows Biden (undeclared) leading the pack and Sanders second, ROFLMAO.
How schizo are the Dems? On a radio interview today, Kamala Harris had to explain why she, as a prosecutor, put black men convicted in a court of law for serious crimes in prison. Explain yourself!
In the same interview, Kamala Harris had to explain her blackness and explain herself as to why she married a white man. “Because I love him” was not a good enough answer. Loving a white man so much you would want to marry him somehow brings into question her credentials as a black woman, ROFLMAO. What year is this? 1919 or 2019?
Sure, Kamala may not be an African-American, but she is black.. But not black enough. I am sooo glad I am not in the Democrat Party.. That’s too crazy for even moi.

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fish

11 March 2019

Posted by: AVMan | 11 March 2019 at 04:09 PM
42 Million dugsKKKi………!

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Paul Emery

11 March 2019

Makes me laugh Gregory. Ha

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Don Bessee

11 March 2019

Trouble in ol’ hickory state for team socialist-
The other entities controlled or run by Chakrabarti at the time that were housed at 714 S. Gay St. during the period of occupancy of Brand New Campaign LLC included:
Brand New Congress, a PAC
Justice Democrats, a PAC
Brand New Congress, LLC, a private consulting firm apparently controlled by Chakrabarti
The Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez campaign, which filed its statement of organization with the FEC that listed the building as its offices on May 17, 2017 and listed its email as “admin@brandnewcongress.org,” the email address of Brand New Congress, the PAC.
Six congressional campaigns which filed their original statements of organization with the FEC in May 2017 that listed the building as its office and listed its email as “admin@brandnewcongress.org,” the email address of Brand New Congress, the PAC: Robert Ryerse 2018, Letitia Plummer 2018, Adrienne Bell 2018, Sarah Smith 2018, Chardo Richardson for Congress, and the Anthony Clark campaign
Five additional congressional campaigns that filed amended statements of organization with the FEC in July 2017 that listed 714 S. Gay St. Knoxville as their headquarters, and an email address of the Brand New Congress PAC (admin@brandnewcongress.org) as their campaign email address: Cori Bush 2018, Paula Swearengin 2018, Committee to Elect Ryan Stone, Hector Morales for Congress, and the Perry for Pennsylvania campaign.
Some of the congressional campaigns subsequently filed amendments to their statement of organization listing different addresses for their offices.
Rep. Ocasio-Cortez, however, did not file an amended statement of organization with the FEC changing the address of her campaign headquarters from 714 S. Gay Street, Knoxville, Tennessee to a location in New York until November 20, 2018, two weeks after she won the general election to represent New York’s 14th Congressional District in the U.S. House of Representatives, and more than six months after the Brand New Campaign LLC lease of the Knoxville office space ended.
All told, at least 16 different organizations, all controlled or managed by Chakrabarti and, in the case of two of those organizations–her own campaign beginning in May 2017 and Justice Democrats beginning in February 2018, by Rep. Ocasio-Cortez– listed the 714. S. Gay Street location as their headquarters during the 2017 to 2018 time frame of Brand New Campaign LLC’s occupancy of the office space there.
Coordination between PACs and congressional campaigns is a violation of election law, and in the rare circumstances where PACs and congressional campaigns have been known to share office space, FEC regulations require firewalls–“walls of separation” to help ensure that illegal coordination does not occur.
But sources in Knoxville who visited the office while it was occupied by Chakrabarti and his associates among the 16 or more entities housed there that he controlled or managed say that the physical layout of the space gave the impression that it housed a single, integrated entity.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/03/11/no-walls-of-separation-in-knoxville-office-run-by-aoc-chief-of-staff-chakrabarti/
😉

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Scott O

11 March 2019

Paul at 1:49 – So Paul, I take it you’ll be working for Trump’s re-election?

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Scott O

11 March 2019

Poor Zucky – doesn’t he know any leftie can already read minds? They always know what we’re REALLY thinking.
https://www.wired.com/story/zuckerberg-wants-facebook-to-build-mind-reading-machine/
I say go for it! Chairman Xi will pay big bucks for it.

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AVMan

11 March 2019

,,,Not your AOC Democrats,,,
John O’Sullivan, editor of the Democratic review writes it is “Our manifest destiny to overspread the continent …for the free development of our yearly multiplying millions.”
And there is this gem,
Horace Greeley writes in the New York Tribune: “We can easily defeat the armies of Mexico, slaughter them by thousands, and pursue them perhaps to their capital; we can conquer and “annex” their territory; but what then? Who believes that a score of victories over Mexico, the “annexation” of half of her provinces, will give us more Liberty, a purer Morality, a more prosperous Industry…?
https://academic.udayton.edu/race/02rights/guadalu3.htm

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fish

11 March 2019

Posted by: AVMan | 11 March 2019 at 05:19 PM
,,,Not your AOC Democrats,,,
Nope……neither of those guys was a mildly precocious 12 year old Puerto Rican girl. But keep holding auditions……you’ll find somebody who isn’t quite so ridiculous and almost as telegenic!

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Walt

11 March 2019

Guess Emery ain’t so keen on his religion… Can’t tell us why the Left hates the Jews.
That make Dougy next up to bat. I’m SURE he can tell us.

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sbgolfhi@msn.com

11 March 2019

AVMan @9:03: Congresswomen Tlaib and Omar come by their Jew-hatred ‘honestly”; it’s foundational (enjoined by Muhammed) to Islam. What’s your excuse? L

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AVMan

11 March 2019

,,,why I hate the Jews,,,by Dougskki
“It’s a global power structure that is responsible for the economic decisions that have robbed our working class, stripped our country of its wealth, and put that money into the pockets of a handful large corporations and political entities. Just look at what this corrupt establishment has done to our cities like Detroit, Flint, Michigan, and rural towns in Pennsylvania, Ohio, North Carolina, and all across our country…
We’ve seen this first hand in the Wikileaks documents, in which Hillary Clinton meets in secret with international banks, to plot the destruction of U.S. sovereignty in order to enrich these global interest powers, her special interest friends, and her donors.”
– Oh, wait Altered Walter, that was your God Trumpski!!!!

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Paul Emery

11 March 2019

Scott 11 March 2019 at 05:02 PM
“Paul, I take it you’ll be working for Trump’s re-election? ”
Huh???? what you say makes no sense. Please elaborate.

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Walt

11 March 2019

So it’s because they are better at making money than you. Got it.
Thanks.
BTW.. Gay men love Aqua Velva. Fine choice by you.

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Paul Emery

11 March 2019

Scott
Are you joining Walt and Todd in believing the election of Trump is some kind of Divine Intervention into American politics?

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Don Bessee

11 March 2019

Well that’s good common sense so the left will have kittens –
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/president-trump-i-dont-want-immigrants-that-will-be-dependent-on-welfare
😉

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Bill Tozer

11 March 2019

How schizo are the Dems? How schizophrenic is AOC?
They are balls to the wall foaming at the mouth anti-gun fanatics and now AOC and the Blue Mob are pissed to the max because illegals can’t buy guns. That’s schizo.
How schizo are the Dems? For over two years they have been hollering from the rooftops that foreigners have no right to interfere with or mess with OUR elections….it’s for Americans only!…….and now they want illegals from foreign countries to vote in our elections, ROFLMAO. That’s not schizo, that’s psycho.

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fish

11 March 2019

Those youngsters may be on to something…..socialism sure sounds swell!

Desperate Venezuelans swarm sewage drains in search of water

Yep…..just swell!

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AVMan

11 March 2019

,,,those tea baggers are serious sack suckers,,,
https://www.theunion.com/opinion/columns/gregory-j-diaz-some-thoughts-about-voting/

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Bill Tozer

11 March 2019

No wonder the Trump haters are Jew haters. Did God raise up Trump?
https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/104682/ancient-jewish-sources-indicate-trump-will-pave-way-for-third-temple-prominent-rabbi/
https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/108239/the-trump-king-david-connection-and-how-it-connects-with-abrahams-covenant/
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/trump-s-compared-to-persian-king-cyrus-will-he-build-the-third-temple-1.5628538

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Bill Tozer

11 March 2019

Omar in the news again
https://babylonbee.com/news/ilhan-omar-withdraws-support-from-bill-to-save-the-earth-after-learning-thats-where-israel-is?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro
https://m.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913/10156253817805914/?type=3&source=48

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