[Does anyone know what leverage would Trump have to get Dems to agree to border security funding were he to agree on first giving them all they want on illegal aliens in a bill that would also terminate the shutdown? gjr]

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431 responses to “Sandbox – 21jan19”
Ahhhh fresh kitty litter!
More from the freshmen dems on investigating nothing specific –
In a video sent out by conservative activist group America Rising, Rep. Joe Neguse, D-Colo., was recorded Friday saying he believes the Supreme Court justice committed perjury while under questioning from Congress — though did not point to a specific statement.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-judiciary-democrat-says-that-justice-kavanaugh-will-likely-be-investigated-for-perjury
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Circling the barn,one mo time:
Recently, a poster (Ms. Coss) laid bare her deepest fears in a candid moment of pure unadulterated fear. She feared that the Ultra Right Nazis would round up all the liberals and march them off to be executed….or a fate worse than death. Up against the wall, mo fros!
Who is coming for whom?
“Present before and after the entire exchange was a radical activist group called the “Black Israelites,” who yelled the following at the Covington students: “White people go back to Europe, this is not your land, “the biggest terrorist on the face of this earth is the pale faced man, woman and child,” “come closer and you gonna catch it,” “I hope you crackers are ready,” “you have a school shooter haircut.”
There were homophobic and ethnic slurs, all manners of hateful language, and all directed at the Covington students. These are teenagers who were being menaced by a group of adult males, and it was in that circumstances that Philips, clearly aware of what was going on, decided march into the crowd of Covington students. And the “Black Israelites” egged him on.
There is also a bigger lesson to be drawn from this. Social media mobs are a cancer on this country, and those in the news business have an obligation not to carelessly magnify malignant efforts at personal destruction. This affects all of us. It does not matter who you are, whether you are active online, care about politics, or keep to yourself. The social justice mob may come for you, your spouse or your child, and engage in a ritualistic destruction of their online reputation. Even a trip to the Lincoln Memorial for high school kids can be turned into something catastrophic.
The press must be better than this, especially those who have the power of a large online platform. Perhaps the only way we can change the current climate is to hold accountable those who play into the rage mob and remind the rest of us that, no matter who you are, it is only a matter of time before the online vigilantes come for you too.”
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/426288-only-a-matter-of-time-before-the-social-media-mob-comes-for-you?fbclid=IwAR1J1HUirBZGVX3tWyPK0HbgneT_3iWJtOuKCCyVux7xpI49uhsk-uw3W3A
Again, who is coming after who?
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/kathy-griffin-calls-for-doxing-students-in-viral-video-shame-them
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,,,Trump owns the Shutdown holding hundreds of thousands of Americans hostage over a simplistic election campaign chant,,,we have always provided funding for border security,,,if the carnival barker In chief would have been chanting ‘we need border security’ the meatheads would have become bored,,,Trump needs to reopen government. Trump’s big wall plan needs to go the way Hillary Care went.
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Pelosi and Schumer own the shutdown and all they need to do is put the money in for the wall. But they won’t. In a negotiation, if a person makes an offer to move forward and the other side says nope, never, and makes no counter, the onus is on them. So “M” it appears to me you have never taken part in a negotiation.
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Will they call it the saints rule?
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-nfl-might-consider-allowing-reviews-pass-interference-saints-fiasco-173552996.html
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Regarding “conservative” events in Nevada County… there had been a gun show held at the fairgrounds that was harassed. It came back in 2017 after halting operations in 2002. Unsure if there will be a date for it in 2019.
I’ve never attended a “gun show” and have no idea how good or bad this one was/is.
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This is interesting video that shows Iranian manned modern Russian antiaircraft system fire and miss multiple times as the Israeli rocket closes in relentlessly destroying the unit.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/israel-confirms-attacking-iran-forces-063229556.html
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The masters of the universe are just another cog in the blue mob machine –
Twitter has spent years assuring the public that it will crack down on trolling, harassment, and violent threats. It’s also pledged to tackle “misinformation” and “unhealthy conversation,” using these loaded terms as excuses to ban a wide range of anti-progressive dissidents from the platform.
But when innocent conservative high school kids are flooded with violent threats, targeted harassment and doxing on the basis of media-promoted misinformation, Jack Dorsey and his staff seem to do nothing — it even briefly promoted the smears.
Over the past 48 hours, an angry mob of Twitter users — many of them with blue checkmarks next to their name, signaling endorsement of their messages by the company — have flooded the platform with disgusting abuse, violent threats, and calls to harass innocent students of the Covington Catholic High School in Kentucky.
The wave of attacks was sparked by fake news — a claim, based on a clipped video and repeated by the mainstream media, that the high school students “taunted” and “harassed” a Native-American activist near the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, D.C. Longer versions of the same video showed that it was the activist, and a nearby group of black supremacist activists, who harassed the students. The latter group even hurled racial abuse at the students.
Most of the tweets remain on the platform, which has yet to ask the authors to take them down — much less deverify or ban them, something Twitter has done to conservative activists for far less.
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/01/21/twitter-allows-verified-calls-for-violence-against-conservative-high-school-kids/
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George,
To answer your question – President Trump would have no leverage.
The Democrats are not interested in U.S. border security. And many of the Republicans don’t seem to be interested either. They had 2 years to do so when they had control of the House.
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I think all those conservatives got shortchanged when the loony left got the elephants removed a couple of years ago. That would be a venue no lefty would be seen at. And the atheists of the left don’t celebrate Christmas so that leaves those conservative Christians I guess. This is a fun and ludicrous game the left is trying to make. What a hoot!
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No hurry to reopen government. 800,000 folks may not have received their checks yet,but milllionsupon millions of illegal aliens have. The food stamp tells me that they have already loaded up Feburay’s amounts on their EBT cards. No worries, Fedworkers, the check is in the mail. A good Boy Scouit is always prepared.
To answer Dr. Rebane’s Sandbox question, I no not see any compromise. The Leftt says “open up the storehouuse, and th5enwe can “discuss”. Trump says show me the money, and I will let you slop at the trough. I believe Ttrump has a trust issue with thee dishonest Democrat Party. A Mexican Standoff, pun intended.
Perhaps some agreement can be reached, but I see no need to rush, no need to hurry. The shutdown only affects a tiny percentage while open borders affects our nation’s sovereignty. Too much blood has been shed to throw it all away and have illegal foreigners dictate the rules to us.
The price on one hand is too high to pay and on the other hand, the price is at firesale prices. A bargain at twice the price.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10219054678624365&set=a.10209081529181862&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2235505619817638&set=gm.613161462472301&type=3&theater&ifg=1
https://m.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343/1527576870709678/?type=3&source=54
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How many wanna be dr Frankenstein’s are out there?
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“m”eathead says “we have always provided funding for border security,” blaa blaa blaa,
Enjoy the movie. Maybe your “medication” shipment was on that bus.
http://www.breitbart.com/border/2019/01/21/watch-bus-unloads-migrant-group-to-cross-unsecured-border-section-in-arizona/
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Is Paul still kicking? The medical team was sent to the Nevada Theater a couple of hours ago. CPR “was” in progress.
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One for the anti gun crowd.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-homeowner-shoots-kills-3-men-and-injures-2-during-home-invasion-officials-say
The homeowner just about bagged his limit.
Now can he get a good taxidermist?
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Devine intervention?
https://www.foxnews.com/faith-values/maine-pastor-accurately-predicts-patriots-chiefs-score-would-like-to-think-it-was-divine-intervention
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George – – In response to your last post on the now closed sandbox– it case it was lost on you.. My post about conservative and liberal holidays was in response to Todd’s absurd assertion that 4th of July and Constitution day were conservative holidays. It’s called parody.
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,,,wALT,,,and the Estonian rodent,,,both of you are blatant liars. Check the record,,,plenty money has been thrown at border security over the decades,,,and was proposed for this year,,,just not for the trumpski chant!!!
Then you have lyin meathead Todd who is a total sadsack!!! Inspect the record lyin Todd,,,we have him on tape bozo!!!
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The blue mob eating its young –
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-on-first-day-on-campaign-trail-faces-tough-questions-over-prosecutorial-record
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Diaper change time Dougy? Your sure triggered today.
Reality in living FLIR smack you the wrong way?
Like YOUR side really wants to fix things. You need every illegal vote you can get. You need those welfare recipients.(and the heroin, meth, the coke, the fentanyl).
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M 149pm – just so we know you’re not hallucinating, what again was my “lie” about border security? And fox = rodent??
EstonianF 1257pm – Well, that makes sense. I had no idea 😉
RobertC 145pm – OK, but if that’s the case then you would communicate more clearly by responding to ToddJ and not me.
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“plenty (of) money has been thrown at border security over the decades”
Evidently not given the poor results. Either there’s not enough money or it is poorly spent.
Seeing as how we aren’t allowed to use state police to enforce federal immigration law (as opposed to drug law, gun law, counterfeit currency, etc.), we aren’t allowed to pick up illegals at the county jail, we aren’t allowed to ask for ID, we aren’t allowed to raid employers, etc. etc. etc. I can see where it all might be a problem.
You’d feel a lot better if you just admitted that you think that national boundaries are a bad thing and that there should be free movement of people…at least into the first world. It would make for a more coherent argument.
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Walt 1:18. “Is Paul still kicking? The medical team was sent to the Nevada Theater a couple of hours ago. CPR “was” in progress.”
Good one Walt. This one statement epitomizes the baseline assholedness of your ilk. Does this mean you “won”?
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BillT: “To answer Dr. Rebane’s Sandbox question, I no not see any compromise. ”
That seems pretty obvious at this point.
As long as they can keep strict party discipline, the House will not pass a single dollar of wall money. They’d rather let everything collapse rather than give Trump even a tiny amount of funding for what is a make or break deal for them.
I think that the President should just hang tough and bring the whole shebang around us if they are going to be that driven in terms of their belief systems. I’d sooner have a crisis now than Yugoslavia in 20 years.
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His Gov. check must have been full of zeros.
But rest easy Dougy,, your ol’ bat Nan is flying 1ST class to Europe. The GOV. shutdown doesn’t apply to her.(and anyone she cares to drag along.) And those 200+ dollar a plate dinners at the best chow hauls. Welcome the life of Socialism.
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E. Fox: “The Democrats are not interested in U.S. border security.”
I’d say they are quite interested in it, they are viscerally against it.
If they were simply disinterested, none of this crazy behavior would be going on.
The odd thing is that it’s a rather new behavior The elite in the Democratic party have done a large about-face, and the Blue Mob is of recent origin…at least in the things they seem most concerned about as of late.
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How long can Dougy hold out? How soon will he Beg BIG Mamma to give Trump the money for the wall? But your waist line will thank her.
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Looks like the loons of left like BoobieC don’t know when they get smoked by the right. Sad.
Hey where is that ne troll Branson? I think he was whipped bad by Gregory and left to sulk.
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(from the prior litter) Branson Branson: “I almost spit up my coffee when I read that the Fourth of July was a conservative celebration!!!”
I would have agreed with you up until the last year.
The minute that nationalism became equated to Nazism by the Blue Mob Wallahs, the 4th of July became conservative. Sorry about that.
You’ve still got May 1st, since it isn’t all a loss.
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Scenes, now that is funny! Oh and what about the NFL? Maybe Paul Emery and Branson should have attended to see that fans were pretty conservative while the bums were kneeling against the country and flag.
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The fix was in –
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/former-top-fbi-lawyer-personally-involved-in-fisa-warrant-for-trump-aide-other-russia-probe-irregularities-transcript-shows
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Birds of feather….how much for the little girl?
https://freebeacon.com/politics/dems-who-slammed-gop-over-kavanaugh-attended-puerto-rico-trip-with-cardenas/
The Dem race is heating up.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=29&v=1KVs555vss4
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No Paul yet? Let’s hope he’s OK.
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More cracks in the globalists structure –
https://www.france24.com/en/20190121-bolsonaro-present-new-brazil-davos
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Walt,
He is busy today. He has the Love March to attend, then string cable for the MLK choir. After that, he will have time to run over here to call us liars, spread his hate, and spend some hours going off on Melania’s choice of footwear, all the while doing his moral superiority virtue signaling.
Being a Green Pot Libertarian Worshipper means never having to say you are wrong.
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Could be right about that –
Similarly, the response to the Gillette ad feels like a dam breaking. This might be the moment when men have finally had enough.
Men are constantly barraged with criticism. “Men are the worst” has gotten old. The word masculinity is only preceded by the word “toxic” these days.
Meanwhile, men have been on a downward trajectory for some time now. Fewer men go to college, more men commit suicide, more men live at home with their parents well into adulthood.
The most dangerous jobs are usually performed by men, and most of those killed and wounded defending our country in wars are men, yet they are told nonstop that they are terrible, and the future isn’t for them. They are expected to shrug it off because, well, they are men.
If men are traditionally stoic and impervious to criticism, and we like them that way, then the idea that men can take the shots simply because they are strong and manly flies in the face of the commercial — which bashes male stoicism.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/well-america-gillettes-idiotic-ad-may-have-finally-turned-the-tide-on-toxic-masculinity
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Gillette implores men to be better because kids are watching. Yes, kids are watching men portrayed as bumbling idiots in so many ads and as violent misogynists in this one.
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No problem Don, give the little lady the snow shovel and SHE can do the walkway. Equality, is equality.
Tom T. Hall was right WAY back when.
Where is MZZZZZ. “jon”? This one’s for you… Sweety.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWpYQjuJ0u0
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Paying lip service to MLK
How is it, then, that so much of his legacy—what he hoped to pass on to the future—has been lost?
King wanted equality under the law and said, famously, that people ought to judge one another based on character, not skin color. But he also believed that blacks had an important role to play in their own advancement.
The black civil rights battles in America are now over, and King’s side won. The best indication of that may be that King has had no real successor. If black Americans were still faced with legitimate threats to civil rights—such as legal discrimination or voter disenfranchisement—it’s likely that leaders of King’s caliber would have emerged to carry on the fight. Instead, what we have today are pretenders who have turned the civil rights movement into an industry, if not a racket.
And what have these racketeers accomplished? A lot for themselves, and very little for their constituents. Racial gaps in income, education, and home ownership were narrowing in the 1940s, ‘50s and ’60s. But after King was replaced as the spokesman for black America by the likes of Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and others, these gaps began to widen in the 1970s, ’80s and ’90s.
This suggests that the racial disparities that continue today aren’t driven by whatever racism that still exists, despite all the claims to the contrary from progressives and their allies in the media. It also suggests that black culture—attitudes toward marriage, education, work and the rule of law—plays a much larger role than the left wants to acknowledge.
More marches won’t address fatherless homes. More sit-ins won’t lower black crime rates or narrow the school achievement gap. Electing more black politicians and appointing more black government officials can’t compensate for these cultural deficiencies, either. Black mayors, congressmen, senators, police chiefs and school superintendents have become commonplace since the 1970s. Even the election of a black president—twice—failed to close the racial divide in many key measures. Black-white differences in poverty, home ownership, and incomes all grew wider under President Obama.
Discussion of antisocial behavior in poor black communities, let alone the possibility that it plays a significant role in racial inequality, has become another casualty of the post-’60s era.
King and other black leaders at the time spoke openly about the need for more responsible behavior. After remarking on the disproportionately high inner-city crime rates, King told a black congregation in St. Louis that “We’ve got to do something about our moral standards. We know that there are many things wrong in the white world,” he said, “but there are many things wrong in the black world, too. We can’t keep on blaming the white man. There are things we must do for ourselves.”
The pretenders to King’s legacy mostly ignore this advice, preferring instead to keep the onus on whites. Where King tried to instill the importance of personal responsibility and self-determination, his counterparts today spend more time making excuses for counterproductive behavior and dismissing any criticism of it as racist.
https://patriotpost.us/articles/60646-video-where-are-you-martin-luther-king?fbclid=IwAR2vu0dUWklrow-VPTHXcAHPDRxquJZ-QXnbUND0iztT-YbaelgJOY-Ijts
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Tale of two marches….in pictures
https://patriotpost.us/articles/60671-the-march-for-life-and-the-womens-march-in-pictures?fbclid=IwAR3qkqizzzyf7H4bNo6Q551mnL4Ru27Ei-MYobiH8ilZVdnNTeePlPUm_Nk
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Blacks were harassing those boys last weekend and to the credit of those young guys, they did not retaliate. They had manners. Just like the young man who had a drum in his face for so many minutes. Alyssa Milano who I liked in Who is the Boss and Commando has turned into a shrieking babbling gal of hate. Too bad.
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where are the fact checkers? where are the follow up questions??
http://thefederalist.com/2019/01/21/does-aoc-have-any-basis-for-smearing-trump-as-an-anti-semite/
where are the journalists?
In two CNN interviews, newly-sworn Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) was questioned about her baseless accusations that Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) is “compromised” and that “Israel has hypnotized the world.” Omar retracted neither claim. And in the process, CNN demonstrated an inability or unwillingness to confront the Congresswoman’s bigotry and conspiracy-mongering.
http://thefederalist.com/2019/01/18/cnn-not-know-question-ilhan-omars-conspiracy-theories-anti-semitism/
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Getting closer to M’s digs. Manufactured crisis? News blackout?
Guzman is currently in custody at the Carson City Jail.
He has been charged with multiple felony counts including possession of stolen property and burglary. In the coming days, homicide charges will likely be forthcoming.
He is being held on an Immigration hold which is non-bailable.
The Washoe County District Attorney’s Office said they will be seeking arrest warrants for the murders in the coming days as the investigation continues.
Two women were murdered in the span of four days only a mile apart earlier this month in Douglas County within the Gardnerville Ranchos area.
The first victim was 56-year-old Connie Koontz, killed on Jan. 10, and the second victim was Sophia Renken, age 74, killed on Jan. 13, both were killed in the nighttime hours.
A South Reno couple, 81-year-old Gerald David, a former Reno Rodeo President, and his wife, 80-year-old Sharon David, were found dead in their home Wednesday, Jan. 16, 2019. Both had been shot to death.
https://carsonnow.org/story/01/20/2019/carson-city-man-arrested-saturday-douglas-sheriff-feels-strongly-he-responsible-rec
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Todd @ 6:20pm
https://m.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.254420818025296/1531699970297368/?type=3&source=48
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Walt writes “Is Paul still kicking? The medical team was sent to the Nevada Theater a couple of hours ago. CPR “was” in progress.”
You are truly disguising trying to make a joke out of someones misfortune joking it might be me. The person is a member of the Bethel AME Choir who had a heart attack on stage 10 minutes before concert time. She was here from Marysville as part of the annual concert honoring Martin Luther King. Whatever goes through your sick and demented mind is dark and sad. I was doing sound for the concert which is the 37th year KVMR has sponsored and produced the event which also includes the Trinity Choir from Nevada City.
You are sad sad sad Walt. I don’t want to have anything to do with you. You make me sick to my stomach. Please don’t respond to anything I write on this blog
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Punchy, Walt can respond to anything he wants. You are certainly free to ignore it.
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That does not sound good for Tom Steyer or Bloomberg –
https://news.grabien.com/story-ocasio-cortez-immoral-our-system-allows-billionaires-exist
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Leave it to Paul to take it the wrong way.
Here I am looking to see if your alive after hearing the incident.
So just who here is the sick puppy? Let’s say I’m not surprised
you show up as your usual asshole self.
You HAVE had some real stressful letdowns lately. Getting all worked up “just knowing” Trump is about to get perp walked. Then BAM!!! Trump gets cleared. All that stress can be tough on an old body.
Glad to hear your still kicking. Your a necessary evil here.
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{aul Emery misinterprets almost everything so no bigee.
Look at all the babes the democrats are running for Prez. The party has gone all estrogen! Well maybe the after debate parties will be more fun. Fauxchontas, Kamel, Old Joe, Siilybrand and the rest. Booker won’t have a guy to grope though. Bloomberg is so short but rich. He will have a special set of shoes just to reach parity with the gals. LOL!
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An “Awww shit…” moment for a curtain Proggy.(yup you know who you are. Yup, it’s a “Conservative thing”.
“The conservative moment is way more diverse than the mainstream media would have people believe,” Ivan, 36, from Orange County, told, adding that his parents immigrated from Nicaragua. “As a minority, I wanted to be here to support the values this country was founded on. I’m here to stand with Blexit and against the Left.”
The line outside the Blexit event was diverse indeed. There were high school students from Los Angeles; Carlos, a first generation Mexican who drove nine hours from Tucson, Arizona, Pacific Islanders for Trump, Arizona; Chris, 31, a project manager at a tech startup who flew down from Oakland; and Verdell, 73, who lives 20 minutes outside of San Fransisco.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/01/21/exclusive-inside-the-inaugural-blexit-rally-the-black-and-latino-community-will-save-america/
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“Glad to hear your still kicking.”
Well, Walt, that makes one of you.
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