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George Rebane

In The Myth of the Rational Voter Bryan Caplan documented a significant body of research which showed that in the US voters in the aggregate are what may be termed formally insane.  The general understanding of this phenomenon applies to populations all over the world, and its general characteristics were even known to the ancients.  Of course, our well-read Founders knew this, and that is why, in order to avoid the mistakes of the past, they wisely did not leave us a democracy.

The democratic republic they did construct and detailed in our Constitution is supposed to keep the hoi polloi’s mitts off the machinery of our federal and state governments.  They inserted a hopefully wiser and more circumspect layer of elected representatives between the mass of citizens and the levers of power.  The idea was that such electeds would be better read and would take a broader view of things that insured the country’s prudent progress.  Unspoken, save in their oaths of office, was the notion that all of these worthies would be pro-American – i.e. legislate so as to assure the republic’s prosperous and permanent future.

Our Founders had no idea of the world order in which America would find itself 250 years after declaring our independence.  Today two major ideologies, founded by Marx and Muhammad, are working to bring all the peoples of the world under one monolithic governing leviathan.  Each, in the interval, willing to work off the gains of the other in the firm belief that they will be the victor when the dust settles.  In the meantime, there will be a need for lots of dust, or ‘cracked eggs’, or whatever to bring the outdated global gaggle of sovereign nation-states to an end.

Marx’s collectivists today march to that brave new world mostly under the socialist banner, although swapping for the colors of communism (already/still solidly ensconced in the community of nations) is always possible were stronger medicine necessary to mind the masses.  Muhammad’s disciples, no matter their current schisms, see the global caliphate under sharia law as the culmination of Allah’s plan for his earthly creation.  Both can accept convenient amalgamations of the two on the road to their glorious destinations.


But both see Job One as getting rid of those pesky independent nations, many harboring their own distinct cultures and preferring to live with their own kind.  Such bad values hinder both Marx and Muhammad.  A working formula for diverse peoples accepting an overarching government has already been demonstrated by forcefully integrating different people by cheek and jowl, people who naturally do not trust each other for countless reasons, and therefore are willing to accept a strong government over all of them, if for nothing else than to keep a stressful and depressing peace.  It has been done, and it works, and then we ‘educate’ their children to believe and behave properly.

So how do you get such mixing of cultures to occur if there are still nations with boundaries?  The answer, as we have seen, is simple – make it so that the boundaries are porous, and induce the poor, depraved, and deprived to migrate to those lands where native cultures have created prosperity and wealth.  Tell them it is their right to leave their besotted homelands (aka shithole countries) and go to where the streets are paved with gold.  Tell them also that their native cultures are of equal worth to the ones in their target destinations, and that they have the right to continue practicing what didn’t work back home.  In their new home assimilation is not recommended, and will instead be achieved by future generations under central planning.

In the US and EU the porous borders solution is now in full swing, with those who dare to protest the impending destruction of their home countries being labeled and pilloried as racists, nazis, fascists, and (white) nationalists.  And now in America we hear from the renewed Speaker of the House, Mrs Pelosi, that not only do border walls not work, but that they are “immoral”.  No one has yet to ask that corrupt socialist scion why it is immoral to construct infrastructure that will protect and defend against assault and attack.

And our electorate, as Caplan and others have pointed out, give de facto endorsement to Team Pelosi by concurrently claiming conflicting attitudes as demonstrated by numerous polls.  Americans in the aggregate approve of ‘border security’ without really knowing what they are talking about.  And then they also claim to oppose ‘illegal entry’ into our country, while simultaneously opposing ‘the wall’ and all such effective barriers to illegal entrants.  And in the large they have no intellectual capital with which to question what they are told in the lamestream media about walls, border porosity, and ‘migrant rights’.

So there you have the latest anti-American chapter starting to play itself out with the advent of the 115th Congress and its Democratic House.  The daily message to the masses is that they should keep their eye on that dastardly Donald Trump (a money-grubbing capitalist in the pay of Putin) who will now really be investigated until the cows come home, and to not worry their little heads about what’s happening at our southern border.  And by the way we also don’t need no stinkin’ military spending to update our forces and dated nuclear arsenal in the face of China’s and Russia’s intentions in the Far East and Europe and Middle East.  But new taxes will be levied to fund increased entitlements and benefits for ‘immigrants’ – how else will Marx’s minions (millennials and ‘minorities’) maintain their majorities?

[6jan19 update]  The real immorality of the wall has been revealed by the alt-Left Democrats in the newly elected House.  RR reader and commenter ‘fish’ points out the highlights of ‘HR1 – For the People Act of 2019’ in his 1051pm below.  The question that I have been struggling with for some years now is ‘Have Democrats really evolved into an evil anti-American political coalition, or are they simply more confused and ignorant than ever about the policies they promote?’  With the introduction of HR1, a proposed law that would clearly overturn the sanctity of American citizenship, my conclusion in light of this information is that yes, to the extent that the rank and file Democrats support this bill, they are indeed the country’s party of evil – its Fifth Column bent on destroying the last vestiges of an exceptional America.

If they ever pull this off and put HR1 into the US Code, our illegal alien and mass migration problems will be over.  America will have become a destitute country (possibly even a shithole country) for which no one will want to risk life and limb, or even the price of transport, to come and demand its citizenship.  With the passage of HR1, American citizenship will become moot and strictly optional for everyone who can make it across what used to be known as our country’s borders.

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144 responses to “Pelosi’s “Immoral Wall” (updated 6jan19)”

  1. Walt Avatar

    LOL!!! “m”oron is pulling a Paul!! (Change the subject…FAST!)
    You brought it up Capt. Depends! Now no stomach to follow through?
    Better call your diaper changer…Ahh hell…. he or she ain’t around.. Gov. shut down and all… Well,, your on your own.

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  2. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: M | 06 January 2019 at 11:07 AM
    Funny……:Democrats are about as close to “ethics” as you are to “sane and realistic”.

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  3. ***M*** Avatar
    ***M***

    ,,, sure fish,,,that is why Trump declared the White House and his minions ‘’’Ethics Free’’’

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  4. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    I wonder how many democrats are on the list of payoffs for molesting staffers there in our House?

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  5. Walt Avatar

    Is this how Proggys of the likes of “m” and Paul plan on winning the next civil war? Pick a fight, the run as fast as they can.
    Yup.. that’ll work……

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  6. George Rebane Avatar

    Gentlemen, the topic here is border security and directly related issues – in short, please cut the crap.

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  7. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Watching Friday’s Rachael Madcow … who is touting HR 1 as a renewal of the Voting Rights Act, and contrasted it with the GOP’s first act upon taking control which she described as ‘making it easier for the mentally ill to buy guns’.
    No, it didn’t. It blocked an Obama executive order to automatically block disabled from passing background checks if they had difficulty managing their money and had a conservator appointed to manage their money for them. The NRA and the ACLU are rarely aligned, but they were aligned on that one… no, a difficulty in managing money is NOT a sign they are a danger to themselves or others.
    Pelosi’s HR1 isn’t a renewal of the Voting Rights Act. Voting Rights Dilutions Act is more like it, an inflation of the number of voters lacking things like citizenship. Vote early, vote often.

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  8. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    “Gentlemen, the topic here is border security and directly related issues – in short, please cut the crap.
    Posted by: George Rebane | 06 January 2019 at 12:35 PM”
    Ok, how about combining border security and other crap? I give you the Wall and Democrat ethics:
    https://m.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343/1518262078307824/?type=3&source=48
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    So just six seconds was apparently too much for congressional liberals to handle. But that short amount of time really tells us quite a lot. It tells us that Democrats have absolutely no interest in border security.
    They don’t want to know that just in December 22,000 children illegally crossed our border. This is happening because illegal immigrants believe kids are a “free pass” to get in. And because of previous court decisions, they’re not wrong.
    Democrats don’t want to know about the 2,500 people on the terrorist watch list who tried to enter the country in 2017.
    They don’t want to know about the 71 deported illegal aliens who came from state sponsors of terrorism.
    They don’t want to hear about the deadly drugs and violent gang members that are coming across the border.
    They don’t want to hear how sick some of the people showing up at the border really are. As many as 50 migrants a day are being taken to nearby hospitals and medical centers.
    In short, the Democrats just don’t want to hear about the crisis at the border because the left doesn’t believe there is a crisis and it doesn’t believe in borders either!
    It wasn’t that long ago that Donald Trump was mocked for wanting his security briefings in person rather than in writing. But when it comes to border security, Democrats just don’t want any briefing at all.
    https://patriotpost.us/opinion/60335-six-seconds-was-too-long?fbclid=IwAR1GKRmI1cXALyQX7dfX6nYNSDSRVw5paRGUBa4XLFvuUNNZDKra6p0AfIM
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    https://m.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913/10156116466910914/?type=3&source=48

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  9. Walt Avatar

    Schumer is getting TRIGGERED!!! Seems Trump is winning the battle.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/01/06/chuck-schumer-says-enough-trump-border-wall-memes/
    “Enough with the memes,” the New York Democrat senator tweeted in response to Trump’s wall meme. “Just quit hurting innocent people and re-open the government.”
    Right after the wall gets funded.
    Then we have GOD mother (GOD.. What a Mother..) making BS up as usual.
    ““Let me first say that our purpose in the meeting at the White House was to open up government. The impression you get from the president is that he would like not only close government, build a wall, but also abolish Congress, so the only voice that mattered was his own.””
    https://www.breitbart.com/video/2019/01/06/pelosi-the-impression-you-get-is-that-trump-would-like-to-abolish-congress/
    No,, Trump isn’t like “O”.. ( “I have a phone and a pen”)
    “If Congress doesn’t do what I want,,” And he did.. And plenty of it.

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  10. George Rebane Avatar

    Walt 425pm – I don’t know if you’re trying to pique our liberal readers with your ongoing use of “boarders” instead of ‘borders’, but you are getting to my kidneys with that continued foible. Please, please inform people that you know borders demark territories and jurisdictions, and boarders are renters who also enjoy meal service along with their lodgings. 😉

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  11. ***M*** Avatar
    ***M***

    ,,,I think Walt is just bored

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  12. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    “,,,I think Walt is just bored”
    More likely he’s board.

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  13. ***M*** Avatar
    ***M***

    No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.
    ARTICLE I, SECTION 9, CLAUSE 7
    https://appropriations.house.gov/news/press-releases/roybal-allard-statement-at-full-committee-markup-of-fy-2019-homeland-security

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  14. Paul Wilson Avatar
    Paul Wilson

    Director of Customs and Borders Gil Kerlikowske announced that Trump’s wall is simplistic, expensive, a waste of time, and simply won’t work. Of course local experts Branson and Juvinal know better than Kerlikowske about border protection.
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-borderwall-waste-time-money-retiring-border/story?id=44978156

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  15. Walt Avatar

    My most humble apologies Dr.R. I’m but a simple ditch digger.
    A product of a LIB schooling system of the day.
    I have seen both spellings used in print by people plenty smarter than me. I will try and do better. I have been shown the error of my ways.
    (Now who is going to teach our old dog Paul simple debt VS balanced budget?)

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  16. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulW 846am – Mr Wilson, how do you assess the several managers and directors of the Border Patrol and ICE who have manned the border ramparts for decades, and testify that “walls work” along with other well constructed and managed physical border barriers?
    From a careful reading of Mr Kerlikowske’s vitae, the man derives his knowledge of border wall effectiveness from the same published data which inform Messrs Branson and Juvinall (and by extension, you and me). There is no record of Kerlikowske being anywhere near the border, nor having any responsibility for directing how border security is carried out. Is it possible that his reach into his terra incognita was politically motivated?
    Walt 913am – Mr Branson, I withdraw with gratitude. Now, about your question – many of these may best be resolved by acknowledging that some depths are too deep to plumb.

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  17. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    @8:46 am
    I disagree with the first sentence of the link and other points raised.
    1) “Donald Trump’s most consistent campaign promise — to build a wall on the United States’ southern border to keep immigrants out.”
    No, the Wall/ Fence is to keep illegal aliens out. All immigrants should go to legal points of entry.
    2) “I think that anyone who’s been familiar with the southwest border and the terrain … kind of recognizes that building a wall along the entire southwest border is probably not going to work,”
    Don’t think anyone is proposing building a wall in the roughest parts of the terrain. Drones and other surveillance are necessary where the illegals and drug mules cross into rough terrain. In some remote places along the border we are stuck with monitoring. albeit I am not sure what watching illegal aliens or drones can accomplish with agents 2-3 hours away., IMHO.
    3). “[Immigrants] can come right up to our ports of entry. All our ports of entry, of course, are open. That’s where we have our commerce,” he told ABC News’ Brian Ross. “People can come up to those ports of entry, as they are doing now, and turn themselves in and ask for whatever laws they feel will protect them.”
    That’s the problem. The illegals are not coming right up to our ports of entry. If they did, the Wall would not be necessary.
    4). “When we look at the cost — and we have about 600 miles of fencing now — we look at the maintenance and the upkeep, we know how incredibly difficult it is,” he said.
    That is the problem. Only 600 miles of fencing, much of that is of poor quality, easy to slip through the panels, scale, or cut through. Only 600 miles of fencing covering the major traffic human trafficking routes in Arizona, Texas, New Mexico, and of course CA ain’t doing the job. The Rio Grande sector is being overrun, as well as the Yuma Sector and our own El Centrol sector. If Congress passed and funded 700 miles of fencing, why is there only 600 miles of fencing??? Congress passed funding and authorization for, 700 miles of fencing, 137 miles were built, and then the Dems said, “Ok, that is good enough.” This old shell game has been played over and over again. The Republican Revolution got 128 miles of fencing passed, only 37 miles were built. Where that 37 miles were built, illegal crossing dropped 99%.
    The outgoing Customs Chief appears to be saying 400,000 illegals not showing up at our legal points of entry is acceptable.

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  18. ***M*** Avatar
    ***M***

    ,,,newsflash,,,DEA reaffirms that most immigrants are apprehended at ports- of – entry such as airports.
    But hey, obsess about a big bad wall if it makes y’all feel good.

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  19. ***M*** Avatar
    ***M***

    Interesting read,,, looks like much of the cash and drugs smuggled across borders is through airports, vehicles at ports of entry
    https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/files/2018-11/DIR-032-18%202018%20NDTA%20final%20low%20resolution.pdf

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  20. Walt Avatar

    Since “m” is SO knowledgeable, he should be able to prove walls and barriers never work. (Folsom Prison? Aria 51? His pot patch? )

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  21. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Yes, M, airports, ports, and points of entry are places were we catch drugs being smuggled in. We do not inspect every cargo container or every vehicle crossing into hallowed US soil. Heard we only flag about 1 in 5 vehicles for inspections at TJ.
    It’s usually at airports where we lift up Big Momma’s skirt and find 300 lbs of crack. Customs deals with counterfeit merchandise with trademark violations being brought in, among other things. Airports have their own screening procedures and watch lists. The DEA is self explanatory.
    Mr. Wilson’s point dealt with immigrants who Mr. Customs Man inferred show up at our points of entry, making the Wall unneccary or futile or not cost effective, IMHO.
    40% of illegals are those who overstay their VISAs, thus entered legally a one point. 60% cross illegally via overland routes. Our airports and parcel delivery services are always improving their technology and are intercepting more and more packages of pot sent from Northern Ca. 90% of the heroin enters the USA across our southern border.
    There is much to do on many many fronts. As far as the southern border goes, it is just too darn porous. Leaks like a sieve. Please, dear immigrants, enter through the front door. But, noooo.
    Don’t touch my bags, if you please, Mr. Customs Man.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NzrkDGxZexA

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  22. '''M''' Avatar
    ”’M”’

    ,,,the innane obsession with the attributes of physical barriers is just that – innane!!!
    George, Walt, Bill et Mensas for the WIN!!!
    Mantra for the Mensas,,,the wall will fix everything,,,now click ruby slippers three times…

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  23. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Wilson | 07 January 2019 at 08:46 AM
    Oh my, I watched the Trump news conference where he had the Border Patrol, DHS and ICE men tell us all how important the wall is. So either you are blind, deaf and dumb person and believe anything a Trump hater says, or you are just a partisan liberal hater.

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  24. George Rebane Avatar

    M 1033am – Surely you are sitting on a ton of evidence for that assertion, right? Trying to get through your snark, you seem not to be thinking all that clearly – no one here maintains that “the wall will fix everything”. That seems to be just a characterization that will make you feel good about the proposition held by your comrades that the wall will fix nothing (besides being immoral).

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  25. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Found this polling in response to the BS Boardman wrote on who supports the “wall” See if I am right or he is.
    https://abcstlouis.com/news/nation-world/cbs-poll-51-of-americans-support-building-or-trying-to-build-border-wall

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  26. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: ”’M”’ | 07 January 2019 at 10:33 AM
    Sentence for senile……
    If there was vigorous and consistent enforcement of the existing law as it applies to illegal aliens a wall wouldn’t be necessary! Since TEAM D needs warm bodies to pull voting levers, TEAM R needs cheap labor and expanding populations to which to sell things, and TEAM DUGSKKKI needs cheap diaper changers nothing is ever done.

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  27. Paul Emery Avatar

    What exactly is the reason you oppose same day registration George? (HR-1)

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  28. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh M @ 10:33 am, now you are being silly.
    Since we have never had a secure non-porous border, how does anyone know if it will not work? Nothing is fail safe. Some have escaped from Altaraz. My point has always been to plug the biggest holes in the lifeboat first, then worry about the little leaks. To be more precise, the point of having sections of walls is to funnel the traffic into choke points.
    Riddle me this, Batman. If walls don’t work, why are the human traffickers in Centeral America telling folks it’s now or never…because Trump is going to build the Wall?? Why would the cartel be concerned with some stinkin’ wall? Why would Central Americans even be the least bit concerned with crossing illegally (with child) and turning themselves into the Border Patrol if the Americans build a barrier on their southern border?? Why are they the least bit concerned that they might not be able to waltz right on in if Walls are futile?
    Why do those in the know say “It’s now or never. The barn door is closing. You snooze, you lose.” I would assume the human traffickers know what works and doesn’t work. It’s their business to know.
    Why have we discovered catapults on the Mexican side of the border to launch dope over the Wall? One can launch drugs in the air, but not people, lol. And privately owned submarines bringing in narcotics from Columbia? They aren’t carrying people in those watercraft, albeit the Coast Guard has intercepted cargo ships smuggling folks from Asia. Let’s plug the biggest leaks first. The preferred route of those from the Middle East, Northern Africa, and the Caribbean is through Costa Rica, then up across our southern border. Panama is a choke point, Anyway, the majority of illegal aliens cross the southern border…with relative ease in the porous spots. Heck, you can drive across in some places.
    M, you mocked the “invasion” of the caravan. The caravan made all the news, timed to be filmed approaching the border around the mid-terms. All the press and all the fanfare. What, 5,000 Central Americans, mostly Hondurans. What you omitted on your mocking of the “invasion” is 5,000 illegals cross the Rio Grande sector every month, 2,000 cross the Yuma sector every month, thousands at another sector here, more over there….all without fanfare, cameras, or headlines. And those are just the ones we know about.
    The common denominator is a porous southern border.

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  29. Paul Emery Avatar

    fish
    Do you have an estimate as to how many “warm bodies to pull voting levers” voted in the last election and how it may have effected specific races.

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  30. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 07 January 2019 at 11:34 AM
    Do you have an estimate as to how many “warm bodies to pull voting levers” voted in the last election and how it may have effected specific races.

    They’re not now legally voting but there is increasing talk about letting them. They are already setting the precedent in San Francisco with school board elections. It’s only a matter of time before anybody with a pulse and who happens to be on US soil when an election is held will permitted to vote!
    And this, of course, is the one issue where you go full “crickets” Punch. I’m rather surprised that you mention it now! After all, what politician doesn’t dream of dissolving the existing electorate and importing one anew!

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  31. ***M*** Avatar
    ***M***

    ,,,oh Bill,,,you so funny,,,
    catapults, walls, and drones, of my!!!
    and where do those thousands of Asians that work in all the nail shops, restaurants, etc. that barely speak english come from???
    Your ilk is obsessed with the wall because it is the last block in the stack of Trump promises to the meatheads that has a chance of succeeding. If that block is pulled the whole Trump house of cards falls and all Trump’s BS lies and promises will not be able to hold his base together. Mouthpieces and deep stake talking heads Hannity and Coulter will revolt!!!

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  32. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Well, since the Dems say voter fraud does not exist and must not be looked into, I reckon we will have to just wait and see. Hmmm. Looks like at least one AG is looking into the matter. Time will tell.
    https://psmag.com/social-justice/democrats-in-hot-water-over-faulty-mailer
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/texas-democrats-under-investigation-after-sending-applications-with-citizenship-box-pre-checked-to-non-citizens
    ——————-
    CNN’s Jim Acosta tweeted “voter fraud in this country is actually very rare.”
    Glenn Thrush of The New York Times claimed: “there is essentially no voter fraud in this country.” He instead asked, “Will the (Justice Department) Civil Rights division prevent/investigate a real threat-voter suppression?”
    https://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/commentary/voter-fraud-exists-even-though-many-the-media-claim-it-doesnt
    https://m.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913/10156083747025914/?type=3&source=48

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  33. Paul Emery Avatar

    Well according to Trump he actually won the popular vote last election. He set up a special commission that folded after finding nothing.
    From Sarah Huckabee “”He got elected by an overwhelming majority of 63 million Americans who came out and supported him and wanted to see his policies enacted. ”
    Huh??? He lost the popular vote Sarah. His Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, won 65.8 million votes and he lost the popular vote.

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  34. '''M''' Avatar
    ”’M”’

    ,,,Bill,,,please try to understand,,,essentially no voter fraud,,,means it does not affect anything.
    There could have been a million illegal votes in Cali for Hillary and it would not have changed the outcome.
    But I believe there was a trumper in the Carolinas who was doing his level best to subvert the process. Occam says there is more on both sides that are screwing around.

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  35. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    M @ 11:43 am
    There is a grain of truth to your premise. Yes, the Wall is the big one for us Trumpamaniacs. It’s the battle worth fighting for. It’s the hill worth defending, the Big One. It’s the line in the sand. Conversely, the Dems were 50/50 on the Wall/Border Security in 2010, now something like 81-8 opposed. It is the Dems line in the sand as well. If they give an inch and Trump wins, the R’s will be energized and the D base demoralized. Both sides are dug in. Border Security is now politicalized. Trench warfare. Who is going to blink first? Oh, the drama.
    Meanwhile, our courts, our jails, our LE, our public schools in CA, our safety nets are being stretched to the max because of hordes of people coming across the border who we did not permission to enter, aka. Illegals. We don’t even know who they are. Legals good and welcomed, illegals not granted permission. Somewhere lost in the politics is what is best for America. Chaos or a Good Orderly Direction? Orderly process or no process? Does our President and our elected representatives defend and protect Americans (and legal immigrants), or does our President and representatives VW to represent foreign nationals who enter the US without permission or foreknowledge.
    American citizens first, or foreign nationals come first? Do we elect Presidents to put Americans first or the French first? The EU first? China first? Nigerians first? Illegals first? Hire Irish First?
    Whose country is this?

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  36. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1120am – Same day registration? According to those who track these things, we do a poor job vetting the legitimacy of registrants when they register weeks ahead of the election (and of maintaining current voter rolls). Somebody walking into a polling place on election day to register and vote is giving the already creaky system no chance to reliably vet the unregistered individual. If we had a reliable and fast turnaround voter vetting system, I’d have no problem with same day registration.

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  37. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: ”’M”’ | 07 January 2019 at 12:17 PM
    But I believe there was a trumper in the Carolinas who was doing his level best to subvert the process. Occam says there is more on both sides that are screwing around.

    Excellent! Somebody is looking into fraudulent voting practices! I’m just glad that you’re now on the record admitting that the left (historically far worse than the not-left) is involved with voter shenanigans dugsKKKi!
    I think we’ve made real progress today!

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  38. l Avatar
    l

    M: Walls work as well as the people who erect them intend them to. During my year in Berlin (1968-69) not a single soul crossed the Berlin wall except through checkpoints, and the entire intra-German border saw only a half dozen escapees. Minefields and manned machine gun positions made sure the folks understood that the keepers were serious. We hope it doesn’t come to that, but meanwhile take your “walls don’t work” and shove it.

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  39. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    M @ 12:47
    There could have been a million illegal votes in Cali for Hillary and it would not have changed the outcome.
    Agreed. But, if 20,000 of those one million illegal votes in CA happened in a tight race in a some Congressional 2018 mid-term district……..
    As long as we don’t look, we won’t ever know. Right now, all investigations into such matters hits a wall (pun intended) from the county level on up to the CA Sec of State’s office. All inquiries blocked from the top. You must dare not go there, you will not go there! Ok, nothing to see here.
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    Re: Mr. Wilson and his retiring Customs Man:
    Circling the barn….again. Nothing new :
    As for the situation at the border in the midst of this shutdown, the best people to hear from are those actually dealing with the situation on the frontlines. Here’s a sampling of their perspective on why an actual physical wall is desperately needed:
    https://patriotpost.us/articles/60372-a-view-of-the-shutdown-from-the-border?fbclid=IwAR32CKeBdIzLeuXi_68klRbicuQSRBDe7zdRhQAAPkM5wH51vKz5GmIGY8Q

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  40. George Rebane Avatar

    Administrivia – Please continue your ‘wall’ and ‘voter fraud by illegals’ discussions under the next commentary about George Boardman. Thanks.

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  41. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    I received a copy of a halarious thread on the Dark Lords Liberal Lament Land. It appears to have started when Frisch called everyone a racist and stomped off this thread.
    Frisch tripped over himself to scrape and bow to the brilliant ideas of the young socialist from New York and feels that she is connected to the world and relevant all he has to do is reference her initials AOC!
    But Frisch didn’t stop with her avarice tax proposal to pay for her plan to destroy America in the guise of a green deal with 70% tax rates. Frisch advocates for going back to 80% tax rates. Of course he does, all that green grant money has to go to someone right?
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  42. Bonnie McGuire Avatar

    The entire discussion regarding a wall for control and protection is amazing when you look at the ignorance of those against it. The ones against it are also against the 2nd Amendment…so they’re against anyone (including themselves) having protection from preditors. The wall will cost very little compared to the money being spent all over the world to protect and help other countries. Also compared to what the flood of illegals is costing us.
    I remember when we travelled into Mexico many years ago…most residentals, and overnight campgrounds had a wall around the settlement. The top of the walls had sharp glass to keep unwelcome people out. Mexico is in charge of its border and could stop the invasion where it starts at its southern border. If not…then let them deal with the illegals on their side where the problem originates. Not very nice neighbors shoving the blame, expense and their policy problem onto us.
    Our politicians going along with them aren’t to be trusted to represent Americans who pay them and our alleged homeland security they’re against. Build the wall and we’ll see how much money will be saved, and criminal activity eliminated.

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