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George Rebane (updated)

Now in its second week, the partial (25%) shutdown of the federal government continues with the Democrats refusing to negotiate with President Trump.  The natural deal to be made is for the Dems to accept the $5B for border security (including all means and methods) and the Repubs to accept legalizing the residence of DACA aliens.

BordersSecurity03The Dems’ position is clear and repeated often – they will refuse Trump any legislative victories and will use their House majority in the attempt to bring down this administration through the launch of a thousand investigations into anything remotely connected with Donald Trump, either now or back then.  The logic behind it is clear.

Let the DACA aliens swing in the wind while the border remains porous and countless thousands continue streaming in.  Sooner or later the illegal alien share of America’s population will be so high (now above 30M by some estimates) that the only non-violent political solution will be granting amnesty to the lot, with border security still unresolved (see also A21).  All of these new residents with a paved path to citizenship will be Democrat voters whose numbers overwhelm the paltry hundreds of thousands in the current DACA cohort.  All that is required is a prudently pernicious patience on the part of the Left.

And during the interval, our lightly-read neighbors will constantly be fed the repeated lies that legal immigration is the same as illegal entry, and that ‘walls don’t work’.  NY’s Gov Cuomo is repeating that lie today on Ellis Island, and history shows that walls are and always have been very effective in preventing both ingress and egress where they have been erected and maintained.  The Dems are placing a smart bet that after three generations their educational systems have produced enough double dummies to swallow whatever is fed to them.

[update]  In ‘Our Exhausted American Mediocracy’ noted historian Victor Davis Hanson takes us through the notable sea change that accompanied and/or was revealed by Donald Trump’s election to the presidency.  It is a marvelous summary of a perspective attempted by many writers over the last two years.  VDH nails it, and includes illuminating sections addressing ‘Earned Hypocrisies?’ and ‘A Case Against Trump?’.  I bring this essay mainly to the attention of our liberal neighbors who seem to get these ideas only through RR – consider it a public service of purview broadening.  (H/T to reader)

More to the point of the contempt with which Democrat politicians hold their constituents, another oft told lie is told in response to every new atrocity committed by an illegal alien – most recently by Gustavo Arriaga murdering police officer Ronil Singh.  The Left glibly counters the violence committed by illegals by the bland claim that ‘immigrants commit fewer crimes than the native born’, which their voters have no capacity to parse as to what that claim means.  In ‘The Immorality of Illegal Immigration’ VDH points out that ‘statisticians argue that immigrants commit fewer crimes than the native born, but never quite calibrate illegal immigrants into the equation (in part because no one has any idea who, where, or how many they are, as estimates range from 11 to 20 million) or note that second-generation native-born children of immigrants have much higher violent-crime rates than do their immigrant parents, and in circular fashion add to the general pool of violent Americans who then are used to contrast immigrants as less violent.’, and then makes the case that “we should redefine the entire morality of multifaceted illegal immigration.”

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71 responses to “Dems Embrace Shutdown (updated)”

  1. ***M*** Avatar
    ***M***

    ,,,Trump Embraces Trump Shutdown,,, Trump and GOPubbers have had plenty of opportunity to come up with a working solution,,,lightly read and highly reactionary meatheads will believe anything Faux echo chambers tell them…
    ,,,the real Truth,,,not the biased Rebane fake news,,, is that GOPubbers don’t all believe in the fairy tale of the great wall.
    Mitt Romney should be considered a swing vote
    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/12/17003552/senate-immigration-bill-floor-debate

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  2. George Rebane Avatar

    re M 1107am – Another confirmation of leftwing blinders. “Rebane’s fake news” was echoed in today’s lead editorial in WSJ (among other non-progressive outlets). But for these lefties, they heard it only here, and react accordingly.

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  3. Scott O Avatar

    “Mitt Romney should be considered a swing vote”
    Amazing – seems it wasn’t that long ago that Romney was Hitler.
    How time flies.

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  4. Robert Cross Avatar
    Robert Cross

    The Dems are placing a smart bet that after three generations their educational systems have produced enough double dummies to swallow whatever is fed to them.”
    Really George? then how do you explain the close to 7,000 outright lies and/or misrepresentations of truth that trump has spewed since taking office? How can you seriously talk about dems swallowing whatever is fed to them in light of that? Classic ‘rovian’ (as in Karl Rove) political ploy; attack your opponents from your own weakness, ie. accuse them of what you are or are doing like when the Bush campaign (Bush was a draft dodger who used his family ties to get of the draft and then served questionably in the air NGs) attacked John (a decorated Vietnam veteran) Kerry’s war record. Cons either ignore the lies or swallow them hook line and sinker, which is it and why do they continue to do that? Back to the morals vs. political expediency issue.

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  5. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Oh BoobieC, we know you want to put him up against the wall. And most of those are just hyperbole exaggerations which if you really had a brain you would know. Anyway, the left is just populated with Grinch-like sour pusses while we on the right are happy and complete. Go take some lemon juice and get a smile on your homely mug.

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  6. George Rebane Avatar

    RobertC 137pm – was that your best support of the Dems’ contention that ‘walls don’t work’?
    BTW, if we used the same metric for identigying/measuring lies that you/Dems use with Trump, what do you think Obama’s count would have been during his tenure?

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  7. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh course the Dems embrace the shut down. If they give one penny to the Wall, it will cause a revolt in their ranks and splinter the Dem Party into glass chards. Not one inch can be yielded. It’s the life and death moment for them. Anyone who breaks ranks will be excommunicated from the Holy Church of Progressive Statism forever and suffer a live of scorn and destitute.
    —————
    Re: update. Of course Walls work. Just the 27 miles of Wall installed during the Gingrich Congress has dropped illegal alien crossing by 99% in that area south of San Diego and now children can play safety on the American side of the border fence, whereas before it would be unthinkable for any parent to allow they kids to toss the ball around play at the American side of the border. The gangs, the violence, the crime suddenly stopped when the 27 miles of good tall strong fencing went up. Of course, only 27 miles of the approved and funded 128 (or so) miles of new improvedbetter fencing went up. Only 27 milese 128, but it worked grand.
    In 2006, Congress with bi-partisan support approved and funded 750 miles of new and improved fencing. After 127 miles of ‘the wall’ fencing was installed, the Dems said, “Ok, that’s enough” and that where we remain today. (We have all seen the Chucky the clown Schumer videos of his 2009 no nonsense speech concerning the factual effectivenesss of border security via a barrier fence:
    “Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) said in 2009 that construction of hundreds of miles of fencing along the southern border made the border “far more secure” because it created a “significant barrier to illegal immigration.”
    Walls don’t work? Ok, fencing does. No prob, Bob.
    Of that 127 miles installed (of the d 750 miles) the Wall works great. Just follow the piles of trash in Arizona (none on the US side) that leads to where the Wall stops and see piles of trash and discarded plastic bottles begin on the US side of the border. Now, put two and two together. No piles trash scattered about on the US side where the Wall is, trail of trash where the Wall ends of US side. “Elementary, my dear Watson.”
    Why else did Univison’s Jorge Ramos recently stand at the ‘Wall’ in Tijuana among the caravan migrates stuck at the border, pointing out that if the illegals would just walk 12 miles to the east, the Wall ends and they could cross there?? Why? Because Walls don’t work? What, I can’t hear you. Say again, I must have too much wax buildup in my ears. If walls don’t work, why to prisons have walls surrounding the facilities? Still can’t hear you.
    Meanwhile a violent mob of 150 dangerous rock throwing angry illegals tried to breach the fence Sunday. Or was it Monday. Assualting our agents use be illegals way of proving how good upstanding folks they be. Much like our law abiding legal immigrant, right Bob? Being liberal means never having to say you wrong….or sorry. Just tell that to slain officer Ronil Singh‘s widow and 5 month old son.
    https://bongino.com/violent-mob-of-migrants-attack-u-s-agents-while-attempting-to-cross-san-diego-border/?fbclid=IwAR3_9h1iiDoyPzAYqQdyiCd_KjDrrCpxQ789GldmfOB8R1FP1w5uiK6fNIw

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  8. Scott O Avatar

    Bobby’s at it again – “Cons either ignore the lies or swallow them hook line and sinker, which is it and why do they continue to do that?”
    Factually wrong, Bobby. We neither ignore the BS nor believe it.
    Trump was elected because he was as tired of the usual nonsense in DC as most Americans are. And because the Dems ran a lying cheating thieving hypocrite harpy against him. He’s installing judges that follow the law and the Constitution. He’s trying to dismantle the web of un-needed regulations that beat down our nation’s wealth producers. He’s trying to do something about China’s ongoing trade war against our country.
    Lincoln put Grant in charge of the Union army despite his obvious failings because he would do what the other generals would not.
    This is all old news around here but Bobby and the other lefty’s just can’t be bothered to pay attention. They’d rather stick to a fabricated narrative because it makes them feel better.

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  9. Tricky McClean Avatar
    Tricky McClean

    I see the grifter blog is in full swing tonight. Fyi, I tried to book a room yesterday at the Trump Hotel in WashPo but it was already full of Saudis with bone saws and sacks of bundled currency. Oh well, my bad!
    https://me.me/t/fish

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  10. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Yeah Tricky, you Islamia phobes should not piss off those Saudi guys.

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  11. ***M*** Avatar
    ***M***

    ,,,VDH says,,,The unlikely 2016 election of Donald Trump—the first president without either prior political or military office—was a repudiation of the American “aristocracy.” By “rule of the best” I mean the ancien régime was no longer understood to suggest wealth and birth (alone)…,,,
    Really VDH??? You just described Trumpski!!!

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  12. ***M*** Avatar
    ***M***

    ,,,VDH says,,,but instead envisioned itself as a supposed national meritocracy of those with proper degrees, and long service in the top hierarchies of government, media, blue-chip law firms, Wall Street, high tech, and academia.,,, Instead, the lesson was that the past record of governance and the current stature of our assumed best and brightest certainly did not justify their reputations or authority, much less their outsized self-regard. In short, instead of being a meritocracy, they amount to a mediocracy, neither great nor awful, but mostly mediocre.”’
    Really VDH??? It called a resume. Most consider a resume showing successful experience in related fields to be important.
    I guess that as an academician VDH is a part of the mediocrity…

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  13. George Rebane Avatar

    M 1019am – You continue to amaze Mr M; is there nothing in there that you actually understand? Perhaps you could have shared some words about what of VDH you agreed with or not; after all, the man has a national reputation and did put out a number of propositions and interpretations most people consider worthy of comment.

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  14. Robert Cross Avatar
    Robert Cross

    “was that your best support of the Dems’ contention that ‘walls don’t work’?”
    No George, that was my indictment of cons for continuing to believe trump’s lies and has nothing to do with a wall. Nice try to deflect, once again, the issue of trumps inability to tell the truth and cons ability to believe them.

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  15. George Rebane Avatar

    RobertC 1101am – You do have a problem following the subject of my commentaries Mr Cross. Your ‘deflections’ are merely my attempts to bring back online here. For other topics, there is the Sandbox. However, you could attempt a counter at my numerous contentions that Dem politicians hold the intellect of their constituencies in contempt. Pick one and go for it.

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  16. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Here is a nice article that dovetails nicely with Victor Davis Hansen’s first piece listed above. Got to give credit where credit is due. Posted by Fish on the old (not closed 28 Dec 18) Sandbox.
    Imitation is the highest form of flattery.
    https://spectator.us/pathetic-mitt-romney/
    Posted by: fish | 03 January 2019 at 08:23 AM

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  17. George Rebane Avatar

    BillT 1254pm – Kudos to you and Mr Fish for catching that (and also reminding me to close the old Sandbox). Thanks.

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  18. Walt Avatar

    GOD Mother of the DEMned sure is full of herself.
    https://freebeacon.com/politics/pelosi-the-constitution-considers-me-trumps-equal/
    Incoming House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.) said in an interview with the New York Times that the Constitution considers her to be President Donald Trump’s equal.
    The wicked witch of the West LIES again! Just days ago “impeachment” was not in her vocabulary.
    What a diff 24 hours makes.
    https://www.today.com/news/nancy-pelosi-says-she-won-t-rule-out-indictment-impeachment-t146197

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  19. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    The solution is incredibly simple. Trump promised and campaigned by saying under his administration Mexico was going to pay for the wall. So…..Collect the money Trump promised and build the wall. It’s been two years since Trump took over. Any idea how much money he’s collected to date?

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  20. Walt Avatar

    Paul never listens. There is more than one way to skin a cat.
    Denying illegals getting in, making money just to send it back to MEX is one way. So in a sense,, they ARE paying for it.( by NOT getting money)
    Tell us Paul,, just how much money is sent El South a’ each year by illegals? We know you know how to use Google search. (You let that news out yesterday.)
    There are always tariffs Paul.. How bout charging admission for every car and warm body that crosses at the checkpoints?
    Somehow you really expect the MEX gov. to sign a check and hand it to Trump.(Yaa… You go with that.)
    We can always cut off aid till the bill is paid.
    OR,, (this one you will go for) All the MEX dope comes here for free till the value is reached. You know,,, for “medical” use… That’s a lot of ingrown toenails.

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  21. Paul Emery Avatar

    So how much have we collected Walt as of now and how long will it take to collect the rest?

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  22. Walt Avatar

    OH NOOooooo.. You have look’n to do,, and reporting like a real news dude. It’s time YOU do some answering. How much gets funneled back to MEX? Give us those hard numbers Paul. The days of the Emery shuk and jive are going to come to an end. put up, or shut up.

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  23. ***M*** Avatar
    ***M***

    ,,,Re: Spectator.us,,,Chairwoman Ronna Romney McDaniel, took pointed issue with her uncle. ‘POTUS is attacked and obstructed by the MSM media and Democrats 24/7,’ she wrote. ‘For an incoming Republican freshman senator to attack @realdonaldtrump as [his] first act feeds into what the Democrats and media want and is disappointing and unproductive.’”
    ,,,For an incoming Republican freshman President to attack [anyone and everyone] as his daily acts feeds into what the Democrats and media want and is disappointing and unproductive!!!
    ,,,yeah, tell that to Trumpski!!!

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  24. ***M*** Avatar
    ***M***

    ,,,BS tidbits from Spectator.us they would like us to credit to Trumpski,,,
    ”’We are now the world’s largest energy producer.”’
    File under giving credit to Trumpski where none is due…
    https://tinyurl.com/y75ob5qj

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  25. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Fifty quatloos again say M is Doug Keachie.
    As content free as he was in the beginning, following me here from Pelline’s sandbox as he did, which, perhaps sadly (and perhaps not) is all but moribund.

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  26. ***M*** Avatar
    ***M***

    ,,,Fifty quatloos says Gregory argues that a .22 cal. and a .223 cal. are almost exactly the same size!!!

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  27. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Walt
    I Think Trump should tell us how much money is being funneled back as you suggested. It was his promise that Mexico would pay for the wall so it is his job to do The bookkeeping. Does that make sense to you?

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  28. ***M*** Avatar
    ***M***

    ,,,Walt,,,are you channeling Todd now??? What a marooon!!!

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  29. Walt Avatar

    OH.. Like the promise WE were given (by the shoe salesman YOU voted for) that my health insurance would go down? The G man has no business getting into our business.
    And boarder security is the governments FIRST and BIGGEST responsibility. I bet I could make plenty of friends sending them to your place to set up camp “Hey! Emery has plenty of camping spots in his back yard.”
    So Tell us Paul, how will you keep them out? (eventually to cops will just stop coming.) Who will you bill when you put up your own fence? ( Don’t look at me!)
    You can lose the excuse Paul.( I know.That’s all you got.)
    Our tax dollars are supposed to go to boarder protection.
    Yet the asswipes in D.C. are more than willing to send that vary same amount to ANOTHER country so THEY can build a WALL for their boarder security.
    So how much of OUR money gets sent to MEX? The amount that embarrassing for you to acknowledge? (yaa.. I thought so)

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  30. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Trump promised Mexico would pay for the wall Walt. Was He lying when he said that statement or was he just ignorant. In Your opinion what happened ?

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  31. Walt Avatar

    Since Paul won’t produce, here is the money sent back to MEX.
    “These annual “remittances” — as they’re called by analysts — topped $69 billion in 2016, according to central bank data
    And Trump wants how much Paul? Seems like a bargain now.. Don’t it?
    Slow down the INFLOW,, and you slow down the outflow.
    Walls work. They have for THOUSANDS of years.

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  32. Walt Avatar

    So Trump fibbed. Get over it. That makes him a politician. What do you expect? He still has some DEM left in him. He’s just like you!
    He changed parties too! See? I may have voted for a DEM! Imagine that! But he’s doing a damned fine job! He’s done everything I expected and hoped for,, and MORE!
    If his name was Manson and still got the same results why bitch?

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  33. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Interesting information Walt. Do you Have a link? I’d like to learn more about it.

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  34. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Funny how the libs take Trump literally about the wall and many other things when we all (well we smart people) know it is nuanced. And no matter how many times they ask the same question and we give the answer they still ask the same questions over and over. Trump did not say he would have Mexico pay in advance. He did not say how they would pay. Only that they would.
    Looks like “M” is channeling Che” agin.

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  35. George Rebane Avatar

    Tonight on the news showing President Trump’s news conference with border security officials having decades of experience on our southern border, all strongly confirmed on camera that walls work the best in keeping out the illegals with a minimum of personnel costs on our side. The Democrats totally ignore the country’s experts on border walls and keep telling their considerable number of snuffies that walls are 6th century (pick another century) technology that doesn’t work. And there is NOT A SINGLE liberal out there with enough brains (starting on RR) to call their leadership on this lie.

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  36. Walt Avatar

    Find it yourself Paul. I did, so can you. (If you really care to know)
    You figured out how to use your search tool.. You have no excuses.

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  37. Walt Avatar

    Looky what the LIBS just passed!
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-dems-pass-new-rules-package-despite-progressive-revolt-led-by-ocasio-cortez
    ” “pay-go” rule included in the rules package, supported by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. That rule requires that any new mandatory spending for entitlements or tax cuts be offset by other separate revenue increases (such as tax hikes) or budget-cutting measures so that the new spending does not expand the federal deficit.”
    This is like a fat kid saying he’s giving up cake!
    OH this is going to be fun to watch.

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  38. George Rebane Avatar

    DonB 544pm – When have socialists ever learned lessons of failures brought on by their ideological forebears? It’s always, ‘This time we’ll do socialism right.’ And then they’ll inevitably do it wrong again, for the simple reason that there is no right way to do socialism.

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  39. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    It was a rhetorical question Dr. R. They never learn nor ever will learn the lesson because they are socialists.
    😉

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  40. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George you know events such as the one you cited in your 5:31 are partisan photo ops and little else and no substitute for vigorous debate on a complex issue. Trump is preventing that from happening. Besides he promised Mexico will pay for the wall as he repeated dozens of times. What happened to that idea?

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  41. Walt Avatar

    Paul. Your Alzheimer’s is showing again.

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  42. Walt Avatar

    Now the real truth comes out.
    WASHINGTON, D.C.—As Democrats took control of the House of Representatives, they promised the nation they would surpass even the Republicans at doing everything in their power to screw up the nation.
    In a speech Thursday, returning Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi committed to her constituents and the nation at large that she’d lead Congress in accelerating the nation toward its inevitable doom even faster than the Republicans have.
    “Everything bad they do, we’ll do it worse,” Pelosi said Thursday. “Out-of-control spending? We got you covered. Endless bickering? You got it. Funding Planned Parenthood? You ain’t seen nothin’ yet.”
    Elbowing Pelosi out of the way, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez grabbed the microphone and promised to catapult the country toward its demise even faster than the Republican-controlled Congress was able to. “Republicans are good at one thing: being bad at stuff. I’ll tell you this much, fam, we’ll be even worse! Ain’t nobody can beat a Bronx girl at her own game!” Ocasio-Cortez was then quietly escorted away as she began a lengthy beatbox routine she found on the internet.
    https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-vow-to-somehow-surpass-republicans-in-messing-everything-up

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  43. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 624pm – The officials reported their professional experience. The well-known function of walls has been known for centuries, and requires no vigorous debate as to their effectiveness. The only debate going on here is a political one on how to best destroy Trump’s presidency. Bringing in the issue of walls is only effective for diverting the double dummies.

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  44. Scott O Avatar

    Paul loses his mind – “Trump is preventing that from happening.”
    Really?
    How?

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  45. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George there are hundreds of scientists who Believe that climate change and global warming will lead to disaster and yet you disregard them. Hand-picked so-called experts brought on for promotion are not reliable balanced sources of information. Once again Trump promised Mexico would pay for it . Was trump lying or just ignorant or does he have a plan.

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  46. Scott O Avatar

    Too easy – “…will lead to disaster and yet you disregard them.”
    Uh – because they’ve been predicting it for decades and they’ve been proven wrong?
    Remember the ‘end of snow’?
    How’d that work out?
    “Hand-picked so-called experts brought on for promotion are not reliable balanced sources of information.”
    Yeah, Paul – that would be the ‘scientists’ paid to promote climate fear.
    AlGore leads Paul around by his nose.
    C’mon, Paul – a twenty foot steel barrier makes it far far easier for the Border Patrol to keep illegals out than just a line on the ground.
    If you want to debate that… oh wait – that’s right – Trump won’t let us debate that!!!!

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  47. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Scott
    Do you recall the last time we had real snowfall in Nevada city?

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  48. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Here is some help for the pony tail of ignorance’s memory issues –
    https://www.usclimatedata.com/climate/nevada-city/california/united-states/usca0755
    😉

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