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319 responses to “Sandbox – 14dec18”
nonprofit will lose its tax-exempt status. This prohibition against political campaign activity (defined as “supporting or opposing a candidate for public office”)
Hummm. Badmouthing a President just might fit too.
It’s all in the legaleeze. “opposing” a public office?
I sure would like to see that argument in a court of law.
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Darn Steve, I am still stuck on your 9:49 am.
10. Disdain for intellectual and the arts. You are kidding, right? Most all the ivory covered halls of academia have dropped Western Civ like a rock,…as well as most private colleges, state universities, and across the whole spectrum. The art and thought that arose ending the Dark Ages with the Renaissance and Age of Enlightment . That was unparrelled in human history, yet is being dismantled. Vilified. Demonized. Book burning time.
Compare that art and awakening to any other place on the globe, even China, in that time periodfor it’s beauty, light, and thought. It was expectional, yet to be replicated. But, burn it down and call it racist. Do not teach it, do not read it. Ban it. Destroy the rich literature of Western Civil. Knock yourselves out, illiberals.
Everywhere I look across the progrssive landscape today is the same mantra: hatred for the successful. Class warfare. Greed and envy, all due to the catch-all slur ‘White Privilege’. Hate the successful, call it greed or unfair, but in reality it is pure unadulterated envy. Someone wins the Heisman? Destroy him for saying “Queer” when he was 14 years old. Ever notice the Q in that every growing acronym LBGQTXYZ.
Values? You mean turning our country into the world’s biggest soup kitchen? Come on in, the water is warm.
https://m.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913/10156071429785914/?type=3
The Rs can’t win in 2020 but the Leftinistas can surely lose. That quote of Jerry Brown’s said it best: The weakness of the Republican Party has let the Democratic Party … get further out than I think the MAJORITY of people want.”
Too funny. He is blaming the R’s for not keeping the Left from going off the rails. Always the victim.
Counting on you guys to overreach again.
https://m.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913/10156071429785914/?type=3
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“M” why not?
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It smells awfully firshy around here.
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An informed voice –
Former Federal Election Commission member Hans Von Spakovsky said Friday that the hush money payments made by President Trump are not criminal offenses.
Trump’s payments to Playboy model Karen McDougal and adult film star Stormy Daniels have been scrutinized and looked upon as campaign finance violations.
The president himself has refuted the argument, calling the payments a “simple private transaction.”
Spakovsky said on “Fox News @ Night” that neither the commission nor its former chairs see the payments as campaign-related.
“It’s a personal expense. It’s the same as a business expense of a business owner. It’s not related to the campaign,” he said.
Former Democratic Chief Counsel Julian Epstein said that “the statute is not clear” when it comes to what a campaign finance violation is.
He added that he’s “skeptical” as to whether the argument against Trump would hold up in a court of law.
“During the Clinton impeachment, I and a lot of Progressives and Democrats were arguing the president isn’t above the law, but he’s also not beneath the law and that Clinton shouldn’t be prosecuted in that case because civil perjury in that situation would have never been prosecuted,” he said. “Some of that reasoning stands here as well.”
Both Epstein and Spakovsky agreed that people would be “celebrating too early” if they think a campaign finance prosecution against Trump would be a good idea.
http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/12/15/president-trump-hush-money-payments-former-fec-member-dem-attorney-agree-they-arent
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@11:09 am
“I sure would like to see that argument in a court of law.”
Funny to see our friends from the dark side suddenly go OCD on the finest nuisances of points of law. We are a nation of laws, not of men! Logan Act! He didn’t report working (PR, counstulibg, or legal work ) for a foreign government. Felony! Prison! Yeh, it’s normally a $1,000 fine….civil. And they still don’t get that a plea agreement submitted to a court and accepted by a judge does not mean that anything in the plea is factual nor rulings on the contents.
But, the real point is I just would like them to be consistent. Like, immigration law. Like blind eye stuff. An illegal cannot receive benefits “from the State”, yet we know millions do from food stamps to housing vouchers. Crickets. Blind eye to that one.
The problem with immigration laws is Trump tried to enforce the laws, ROFLMAO. Enforcing laws is racist! “Trump is trying to stop the Browning of America!” That what was what the separating kids from parents was all about. To discourage folks from coming in illegally. Trump is trying to enforce the law so that migrants come in legally. Now, the TDS crowd are the champions of laws, many of which have had no legal challenges and contain gray areas, It’s against the law. Everything is CRIMINAL!
Everything around him is Criminal.
I just wish they would be consistent. They sound like a bunch of jail house lawyers…er..inmates.
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BillT “I just wish they would be consistent.”
I’d say that they are consistent, although it’s a rather new philosophy. It isn’t like a 1980’s Democrat would hammer and tongs go after the same core values as modern one.
All the talk about Logan Acts and Russians &c. is just a bit of confusing sophistry. Trump happened to hit the non-negotiable third rail of modern Team Blue thinking, mass immigration, and all hell broke loose.
Once he committed that sin, you just work backwards by listing everything a modern major leftist general doesn’t like and accuse him of it. In the final analysis, you just end up with Trump = Hitler (except for the vegetarianism and dog owner part) and call it good.
From a traditional Leftist standpoint, as opposed to the modern sort, it’s all kind of a shame. Trump is not much of a Republican and they probably could have finessed in a bunch of stuff they like rather than just picking a fight.
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I see that white racist from Truckee has scurried away. What a hypocrite. What are the odds he is a Antifa affecianato?
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Steve
Does enforcing laws mean Facist Obsession with national security, crime and punishment? Ok, guess we disagree on border security. No biggie. You own the mantle of Law and Order now.
I can hear the chants of ‘Lock Him Up’ growing louder.
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from BillT’s post: “10. Disdain for intellectual and the arts.”
Huh. I guess I should get back to previous pages more. Hopefully it isn’t #10 of 100.
If I thought that Mr. Frisch could tell a pithos from a quaternion, I’d feel insulted. It’s all good.
I think that the ‘intellectual disdain’ comes from the global warming/cooling fiasco. If you think that the models are inaccurate you hate science and the arts. It’s a simple and satisfying chain of reasoning
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Hey Todd, I don’t run away. You should know that by now.
I do however do thinks that take me far from the small world here.
Hans Von Spankovsky from the Heritage Foundation? Don’t make me laugh.
Zinke out today as a continuation of the most corrupt administration in modern American history.
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re Steven Frisch – Have no idea why the gentleman insists on blatantly re-exhibiting his ignorance. His apprehension about the non/existence of evidence per se ranges between none and juvenile. He understands our justice system to allow indictment when there is no proof that the alleged act is in fact illegal – for him and his, the naked allegation is enough to indict and go to trial (now there’s a Stalinist for you). And repeatedly calling me a Nazi continues to underline that the man hasn’t got a clue as to the ideological categorizations which defined the 20th century. Putting a bow on it, his simplistic definition of the Right as believing in a big authoritarian government is simply beyond stupid – he’s incapable of comprehending that both Nazis and Communists are collectivists (one nuance too far, methinks).
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Looks like Barbie Trump is in a bit of trouble. Like father, like son, like daughter. As Hank Jr. says “It’s a family tradition.”
‘Ivanka’s in the crosshairs’: MSNBC panel reveals how Trump inauguration probe could bring down the president
A top inaugural planner emailed Ivanka and others at the company to “express my concern” that the hotel was overcharging for its event spaces, worrying of what would happen “when this is audited.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/ivankas-crosshairs-msnbc-panel-reveals-trump-inauguration-probe-bring-president/
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I just get a laugh on the Frisch and Emery ignorance. What a hoot.
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Right on “Q”… Paul shows up with a subject change.
Or is the dementia again? Forget what we were discussing?
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Scenes @ 12:59. Yep. I just wanted to feign outrage and give three cheers for Western Civilzation…and make the point that words have meanings. I glanced at the list and said, “oh this one means global warming, this one means Khaggie, this one means caging children and gassing that overweight overfed Mama with her kids in diapers, this one is….blah, blah, blah.
The Steves of the World have had a lot of setbacks lately. Here and abroad. Worldview challenged. Free movements of peoples ain’t working out so well. And intersectionality only includes groups of people, not the individual. Not much talk about forging one’s destiny. White Christian Rural Male is the super villain. Makes them go tribal and point the finger at us for the result of their own making; division. Climate Change is a biggie.
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The good news about Zinke is not that he is out. Every single month they have started new investigation into him. I stopped counting at 8. He is gone. Like trying to clean up the VA. But, the real good news about Zinke is he okayed a big wind energy farm out in the ocean off Massachusetts in the location Drunk Teddy had vehemently opposed. Sweet. NIMBY. Not in my ocean view and sailing waters!
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Here you go LIBS,, “It’s affordable”… Right? This guy still says so.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/12/14/obama-touts-obamacare-affordability-in-video-ahead-of-deadline/
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As the midnight Saturday deadline looms and enrollment lags by about 500,000 compared to last year, the former president is promoting his signature legislation and claiming premiums could be “less than your cell phone bill.” ”
LOL!! LOLMAO!! LOL !! COUGH COUGH HACK HACK LOL!!! LOLOLOL!!!!!!
Really? You still going to buy his snake oil?
And this from the guy who said “You can keep you Doc. You can keep your plan”
And you LIBS keep voting the bastards back in. Yup,, it’s a mental disorder.
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Posted by: Steve Frisch | 15 December 2018 at 07:39 AM
I thought “Circle of Jerks” was yours. But I’m not positive.
I retract my earlier attribution.
Probably something that happened during Paul’s earlier days.
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Posted by: Bill Tozer | 15 December 2018 at 08:07 AM
Another “Mark the tape!” moment. Duly noted.
Thanks William! You’ve saved me the trouble!
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Todd writes:
“I just get a laugh on the Frisch and Emery ignorance.”
You’re a real mental giant Todd Your editorial piece in the Union last
month headlined by saying “The Coming Wave Has Turned Red”
Embarrassing That’s before you got kicked off the Union pages for a month.
Yeah Todd, you are the last one who is qualified to question anyone’s intelligence when it comes to discussing current events.
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Oh Paul Emery, I am so much smarter than you and you just can’t hack it. I am smarter, better looking and way taller. My piece in the Union was prior to the election and like you who said there would be a blue wave we were both half right. Somehow though your limited intelligence won’t allow you to admit that. As far as the Union, yes, I was threatened, turned the fellow in and they moderated me! Do you agree that is the proper course when someone is threatened?
And I don’t “question” anyone’s intelligence since I have the facts. And you are not very bright bub.
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Just sayin’ @ 223 they are not interchangeable oh great pony tail of ignorance.
Ignorance is a lack of knowledge. The word ignorant is an adjective that describes a person in the state of being unaware, and can describe individuals who deliberately ignore or disregard important information or facts, or individuals who are unaware of important information or facts.
Intelligence has been defined in many ways, including: the capacity for logic, understanding, self-awareness, learning, emotional knowledge, reasoning, planning, creativity, and problem solving.
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Todd writes
“My piece in the Union was prior to the election”
Barely Todd-Nov 3-three days. Of course it was prior to the election. You were making a prediction. You are such a dolt. What does “Coming Wave Has Turned Red” mean other than you were predicting a big Repub sweep (Wave). That prediction included California. No need to go through that again but here’s just one-Calif lost half it’s House seats and are down to seven.
Oh yeah, you, along with Gregory, were also trumpeting the now discredited Rasmussen Polls as the only one to follow and look what happened there.
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You know what’s really frishy, its always about OPM writ large, now its a legal concept? –
The common rulebook envisages flexibility for poorer nations.
Developing countries seek recognition and compensation for the impact of rising temperatures.
The idea of being legally liable for causing climate change has long been rejected by richer nations, who fear huge bills well into the future.
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-46582025
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Hans von Spakovsky is a recognized legal mind expert on a number of public policy areas. He has a demonstrated oeuvre that’s hard to refute with more substance than calling him names because he is associated with the Heritage Foundation. Yet he is not recognized by our leftwing readers whose abilities and liege narrative cannot let them get beyond his relationship with a conservative institution that is well thought of by at least half of Congress (and that includes Democrats). As documented above, all the local loonies can do is throw an ad hominem hissy fit when Spakovsky argues ‘Trump’s Ex-Lawyer Didn’t Violate Campaign Finance Laws, and Neither Did the President’. His reasonable assertion leaves the lefties in kindergarten playground mode since they have no substantive rebuttal. (I acknowledge and appreciate that above commenters have already brought up Spakovsky and elicited the progressives’ responses to which this comment is addressed.)
https://www.dailysignal.com/2018/12/11/cohen-didnt-violate-campaign-finance-laws-and-neither-did-trump/
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Paul Emery you lost I won. Why are you such a dolt? Admit it. The facts are as I have stated numerous times.
Republicans have the Presidency, US Senate, SCOTUS, 67 legislatures to your 32, more governors than you and somehow you think you won? Amazing ignorance from you, a self described “journalist” Sad.
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George explain to me how someone can plead guilty and be sentenced to a crime that doesn’t exist? (Cohen)
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Red wave in ’17 election right Todd.
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Paul’s problem with math is nothing new.
He still thinks ONE is greater than sixteen. He claimed to have “won” on that too. ( LIB mass killers VS Right leaning killers)
LIB “new” math skills O geezered one?
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I mean even Giuliani said it’s a crime and he’s and he I mean even Giuliani said it’s a crime and he’s and he is trumps’s lawyer.
“Not a very big crime.” Quote
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PaulE 317pm – No Paul, you got that one completely wrong. It is you who needs to explain to me and mine how such a thing can be accepted in a justice system that is not totally corrupt.
Thomas Elias in the 15dec18 Union veers off on the global anti-American track by arguing that “efforts to give noncitizens more … (citizenship) privileges are part of a movement toward complete normalization for immigrants.” What in hell is ‘normal’ about letting illegal wetbacks and fence crawlers be granted the rights and privileges of a sovereign nation-state’s citizens just because they’re able to break our laws by entering our country surreptitiously?? That useful idiots like Elias can make such an argument with a straight face these days is yet one more indication that we are way beyond the tipping point of ever being able to reunite with people who hold his beliefs. Any more suggestions for common ground?
https://www.theunion.com/opinion/thomas-elias-should-undocumented-have-all-rights-brown-said-no/
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“explain to me how someone can plead guilty and be sentenced to a crime that doesn’t exist? ”
The same way you try and indict for a crime that doesn’t exist.
You still can’t name one
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George Rebane: “And repeatedly calling me a Nazi continues to underline that the man hasn’t got a clue as to the ideological categorizations which defined the 20th century.”
It’s an odd thing, but you run into it a lot.
Nazis and Nazism are complicated things, as you’d expect from a social and political system that was fleshed out by quite a few people over time. Like any culture, even a fairly short-lived one like this, there are a lot of layers to the onion.
People seem to get their knowledge on the matter from repeated watchings of Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS. The Germans did have snappy looking uniforms, so you can’t blame our local historians.
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Tough day Paul? Still shaking about Trump backers “rising up”?
You said there “is no Lefty violence”,,, Really?
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/12/15/patreon-tolerates-calls-for-violence-from-leftists-while-demonetizing-conservatives/
I doubt you have much to say on the matter.
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George
You’ve expended the conversation to now infer that the judicial system is totally corrupt because they ruled in a way that you don’t agree with. For goodness sake, Trumps own lawyer, Giuliani said that a crime was committed. You can argue that Trump should have hired another lawyer but that’s his problem.
““Nobody got killed, nobody got robbed… This was not a big crime,” Giuliani said,
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This doesn’t really fit under the post Globalists and Nationalists, oh my! Maybe it fits under California Exodus Denied. Heck, I will stick it here.
“The government of Venezuela in the name of the people and for the benefit of the people seized the big bad profit-grabbing oil companies, thinking that anyone off the street could manage a business. They started redistributing wealth to poor, made electricity free, were praised by some (well at least one) American Nobel economists for reducing inequality.
“This small incredibly oil rich country cannot now feed itself. Markets, whose prices coordinate and incentivize the creation of wealth cannot function. Farmers cannot buy seed or fertilizer, food imports have declined 70% and people cannot find enough food in the garbage cans. The invisible-to-the-eye workings of the complex economy of plenty—which of course cannot assure that all will be productive enough to share in its plenty—has utterly collapsed.
Smith continues with these haunting words: “REVERSE all those policies, and its effects would be immediately reversed and plenty restored easily as quickly as it disappeared.” Let Smith’s words sink in—the human suffering would almost immediately end as soon as freedom is restored to Venezuela.
Given that the Venezuelan tragedy is manmade, it is hard to fathom why politicians such as Jeremy Corbyn (who could be the next prime minister of the UK) and Bernie Sanders, who provided succor to the Hugo Chavez regime, are not laughed out of politics. Corbyn has also supported Chavez’s successor Nicolás Maduro. Maduro supported Sanders in 2016 calling him a “revolutionary friend.”
In 2011, ignoring food shortages, Bernie Sanders said: “These days, the American dream is more apt to be realized in South America, in places such as Ecuador, Venezuela and Argentina…”
In 2013 when Hugo Chavez, the father of Venezuela’s nightmare, passed in 2013, President Carter praised Chavez’s good intentions saying, “Although we have not agreed with all of the methods followed by his government, we have never doubted Hugo Chavez’s commitment to improving the lives of millions of his fellow countrymen.”
Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, and every other despotic mass-murderer also claimed they had good intentions. What are good intentions worth? Milton Friedman famously wrote, “Concentrated power is not rendered harmless by the good intentions of those who create it.
https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/article/people-venezuela-are-starving-why-did-bernie-sanders-and-jeremy-corbyn-support-their
In 2011, ignoring food shortages, Bernie Sanders said: “These days, the American dream is more apt to be realized in South America, in places such as Ecuador, Venezuela and Argentina…”
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They say the road to hell is paved with good intentions. No kidding. They are throwing street pavers in France.
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There was no ruling, it was a plea deal and that can be whatever they agree to and then the judge ok’s it. No judicial ruling in that.
‘judicial system is totally corrupt because they ruled in a way that you don’t agree with.’
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Running out of material Bill? You are having to resort to Bernie quotes from 2011 to fill up your screed.
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re: The Yellow Vests
https://www.thelocal.fr/20181202/analysis-the-savage-violence-in-paris-was-not-a-protest-it-was-insurrection/amp
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,,,George305pm,,,everyone can have an opinion and Hans von Spakovsky has his. But he is not a one man SCOTUS. If you plead guilty to something that is not a crime do you have to do the time?
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4:31 pm
“But the overwhelming majority of the yellow vests who hurled paving stones at the police or overturned and burned cars were from the French provinces. Of the 287 people arrested on Saturday, two thirds were from outside Paris.”
Aha, throwing those paving stones. Thanks for the timely validation. How Les Deplorables of them. Villagers running amok down the city streets. County biumkins with pitchforks. Marcon stayed hidden behind closed doors after he saw them setting up the guillotines in the streets. After that, they will be coming for the intellectuals, who ironically, were once their biggest sipporters. Cheerleading. It’s for the children.
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So now we see what sputtering Walt and Biker Bill are proposing as a rebellion if Trump is impeached. This is a rebellion by the Right in France. The difference will be that Bill and Walt and their pals will be wearing Orange.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/07/europe/who-are-gilet-jaunes-intl/index.html
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Bill. Do you think the ruling class in Sac are paying attention?
You know,, the same line of thinking as in Paris. (tax’m till it hurts)
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What those saturated in rancid Russian dressing set forget is Muller cut a deal, you WILL plead to what we tell you to and we drop a dozen charges and their attendant sentences.
We understand your frustrations with the pesky facts that don’t support the party line but that’s how it works in the big city comrades.
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It’s just fine Paul,, you didn’t have a problem when the LIBshits do it. Welcome to that two way street. Besides. The Constitution says we can.
But tell us why LIB Commies are not the enemy within.(good luck with that.)
Even your Queen says your side has gone too far.
Wrote too many checks with their mouths their butts can’t pay.
http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/12/15/larry-elder-democrats-warning-lefts-overreach-sign-apocalypse
Remember? your on the side of tyrents.
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Thanks for confirming your support of the rioters in France Bill. Makes my job easy. No more subtleties from you. You’re all in.
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It sounds like these guys got their management training in SF or Sac!
Officials have spent a small fortune on the project that has transformed the village of Shazhou, in Hunan province, into an open-air museum dedicated to the Chinese Communist Party. But few tourists have come to peer at the inscription at the foot of Mao’s statue, or take selfies in front of the heroes of the revolution.
The “red tourism” project was the brainchild of the former Communist Party chief of the local county, Rucheng, and cost 300 million yuan ($44 million). But it has yet to produce a profit, just like the string of public gardens, town squares and office buildings that the county has built in recent years.
Now the clock is ticking as Rucheng, among China’s poorest counties, and with a population of just 420,400 people, is under pressure to resolve $1 billion in debt, following a decade of credit-fuelled vanity projects, three local officials told Reuters. They requested anonymity due to the sensitivity of the matter.
To raise funds and conserve cash, Rucheng – which doesn’t have a train station or an airport – has been slashing public investment in infrastructure projects and increasing government land sales to generate revenue, the officials said.
China’s local governments had 18.4 trillion yuan of outstanding debt at the end of October, and were estimated by S&P Global Ratings to have up to 40 trillion yuan in off-budget borrowing.
Of particular concern to the authorities as they tackle risks in the financial system are those governments with tiny revenue streams relative to their debt. Their over-reliance on income from land sales is also driving asset bubbles in China.
Rucheng’s free-spending ways came onto Beijing’s radar this year when visiting anti-corruption inspectors were shocked by the contrast between the county’s newly built but deserted municipal district and cramped older areas where residents drink polluted water from aging pipes.
https://news.yahoo.com/deep-red-chinese-county-pays-price-vanity-project-231153359–sector.html
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Thanks Paul for confirming your love of huge taxation.
(as long as it’s not your pocket the money comes from)
From the guy who bitches about subsidies, but who employer gets them. (Mr. Double Standard rides again)
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Also thanks for confirming your support of the rioters in France Walt. Readers, this is what Walt has in mind if Trump is impeached. Rebellion and rioting in the streets.
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