264 responses to “Sandbox – 23nov18”

1. 

   George Rebane

   24 November 2018

   M 122pm – for more complete news coverage Mr M, you should really spend some time at FN. That kind of comprehensive coverage is not found when comparing your progressive news sources more suited for assembling politicized reports (aka fake news).
   https://video.foxnews.com/v/5970892906001/?#sp=show-clips
   These pages are years full of liberals’ comments which attest that they first heard significant national and international events on RR, and then quickly attributed these as being made up by me and our commenters. And then responding with crickets when countered. It’s not hard in these internet years to become more completely informed – really!

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   George Rebane

   24 November 2018

   For more information and thoughts on the recent wildfires, I invite your kind attention to the 24nov18 update of ‘Ruminations’.
   RR = far right blog. From time to time I ask our leftwing readers for any direct confirmation of this. I am repeating this request to any current readers who hold that belief.

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   Don Bessee

   24 November 2018

   That didn’t go well –
   As stories of Black Friday shoppers preparing to rev up their engines spread across the country, Midler jumped to her Twitter account to give us all the benefit of her wisdom.
   “And how was YOUR Black Friday? No injuries, I hope!” Bette Midler said on Saturday. “It’s incredible that we have to fight over STUFF. If there were a DECENT minimum wage, or if workers were treated fairly, and got a tiny portion of the kinds of salaries and bonuses CEOS pay themselves, we wouldn’t.”
   But more wondered why Midler, who is worth an estimated $230 million, doesn’t give her money to low wage workers on her movie sets if she is so worried about people’s income.
   https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2018/11/24/bette-midler-black-friday-brawls-wouldnt-happen-if-people-had-a-decent-minimum-wage/
   😉

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   Todd Juvinall

   24 November 2018

   GeortgeR it is my experience the left cannot define “extremist rightwing” so good luck. Hell, I am a moderate person in all my life yet these commies think that is extreme rightwing.

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   Walt

   24 November 2018

   The French are ready to bring back the great pass time of rolling heads, of heads of state.
   http://news.trust.org/item/20181124101720-ghrrs
   Too bad the people of Calif. don’t have the same fire..

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   Bill Tozer

   24 November 2018

   Walt: More on the Redcoats. They are not coming, they are running.
   https://bongino.com/report-british-intelligence-desperate-for-trump-not-to-declassify-fisa-docs/?fbclid=IwAR1ZDbxt6oWTgic-5FGM_s5bs_YOeNEzyxvcDDJh0abEyZZ3jE4C2x3fuyE

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   Bill Tozer

   24 November 2018

   Those rascally Democrats. They fall in line right behind their professors.
   https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10217744164899548&set=a.2858791712594&type=3&theater
   Darn. That’s the food that my food eats.
   https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=288834545076380&id=100018495094290&set=gm.518328528682651&source=48

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   Don Bessee

   24 November 2018

   The truth of the matter –
   Schumer piled on, criticizing President Trump in a Friday tweet: “I don’t agree very often with Chief Justice Roberts, especially his partisan decisions which seem highly political …. But I am thankful today that he – almost alone among Republicans – stood up to President Trump and for an independent judiciary.”
   Not surprisingly, the U.S. Supreme Court has consistently overturned hard-left decisions coming out of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.
   The nation’s highest court accepts cases for review when four members believe circumstances warrant. Typically, a case must be of significance, involve conflicting rulings by appellate courts, or deal with a major contested question. While only a fraction of appeals to the Supreme Court receive review, the American Bar Association reports that 80 percent of the 9th Circuit rulings reviewed by the Supreme Court are overturned.
   Only one circuit has a higher percentage of overturned cases – the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia. They are overruled 83 percent of the time. Notably, that court has 17 Democratic appointees and nine Republican appointees at the district level, and seven Democratic appointees and three Republican appointees active at the appellate level. Altogether, there are 24 Democratic appointees and only 12 Republican appointees.
   Similarly, in the 9th U.S. Circuit, Democratic appointees outnumber Republican appointees 116 to 33 at the district court level. At the appellate level, Democratic appointees number 16, Republicans just seven.
   Moreover, of the 132 active Democratic-appointed federal judges within the 9th Circuit, 66 – including Judge Tigar, who was criticized by President Trump – were appointed by President Obama. In other words, 57 percent of Democratic appointees to the 9th Circuit are “Obama judges.” And yes, these are the ones who have made headlines ruling against this President Trump.
   In effect, what these numbers suggest is exactly what President Trump asserts – that Democratic-appointed judges in the 9th Circuit are out of sync with U.S. Supreme Court precedent, consistently leaning too far left, and with a majority Democrat appointees, most of whom are Obama appointees.
   Run a counterproof. What is the least-reversed circuit – the one most in sync with the Supreme Court? The 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, which was reversed only 55 percent of the time. What is that circuit’s composition? Republican appointees outnumber Democrats nine to two.
   https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trump-is-right-about-biased-judges-schumer-acknowledges-highly-political-rulings
   😉

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9. 

   Russ

   25 November 2018

   Gun Free Zones Invite Mass Shootings
   Some interest facts for discussion:
   Of the 97 countries where we identified mass public shootings, the U.S. ranks 64th per capita in its rate of attacks and 65th in fatalities. Major European countries, such as Norway, Finland, France, Switzerland and Russia, all have at least 25 percent higher per capita murder rates from mass public shootings.
   While Americans are rightly concerned by the increased frequency and severity of mass public shootings, the rest of the world is experiencing much larger increases in per capita rates of attack. The frequency of foreign mass public shootings since 1998 has grown 291 percent faster than in the U.S.
   https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-perspec-mass-shooters-russia-public-shootings-thousand-oaks-mercy-hospital-chicago-1121-story.html?

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10. 

    ***M***

    25 November 2018

    ,,,George352pm,,, your ‘’’far right’’’ and Todd’s ‘’’extremist rightwing’’’ might benefit from a definition of the limits of these ‘’’catchall’’’ spaces within the political spectrum.

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11. 

    scenes

    25 November 2018

    It seems to me that the definition of ‘hard right’ or ‘extremist rightwing’ is basically ‘stuff Democrats thought twenty years ago’. I can’t say that the Right has changed much except perhaps for an increased willingness to entertain the idea of single-payer healthcare and gay marriage.
    The new Progressive Religion appears to have swept most of the old Left away, at least the more public variants. Vibrant diversity uber alles.
    It seems odd, but if you view the modern Right as basically a continuation of existing beliefs, the only really interesting thing is the modern Left. The fact that the Left has simultaneously redefined itself throughout the Western world means that there’s no point in looking for US-centric causes. Maybe it’s just a webborne mental virus.

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12. 

    scenes

    25 November 2018

    We do live in crazy times.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6423519/Parents-dismissed-racist-school-complained-migrant-posing-15-year-old.html

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    ***M***

    25 November 2018

    ,,,scenes,,,’’’I can’t say that the Right has changed much’’’
    That’s too bad,,,
    https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/11/24/ohio-bill-death-penalty-abortions/

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    ***M***

    25 November 2018

    ,,,I can’t say the Right has changed much,,,
    They will try to deny democratic processes at all costs,,,
    House Republicans denied subpoena power to Democrats first time in 150 years,,,
    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/28/house-republicans-subpoena-trump-943265

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15. 

    Bill Tozef

    25 November 2018

    Scenes @ 08:31 am
    Here is an article which I may or may not agree with every statement included. With that said, Right, far-right, Left, Far Left, Center Right, Centet Left, illiberalism, socialism, etc.
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/11/hillary-clinton-immigration-welfare-chauvinism-democratic-politics/

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16. 

    George Rebane

    25 November 2018

    re M 809am – To begin, since it’s the Left that uses and accuses with the labels ‘hard Right’, ‘alt-Right’, etc, it’s incumbent on them to define what they mean by those words. Asking the target of your pejorative to define the pejorative is another example of how liberals reason (i.e. the don’t).
    Second, for those who maintain that the Republicans have become more extremist, it’s again up to the accusers to specify how or give examples of such an ideological shift. On the obverse, over the last decade or so, the so-called Right has written extensively how the Democrats have made a major shift toward the Left (i.e. authoritarian collectivism), and RR itself is a detailed weblog of such a political dynamic.
    As readers point out above, if anything, the Republican Party has made major shifts toward the Left, which again have been detailed extensively. But make no mistake, the parties have drawn apart, not because the Rs have moved right, but because the Ds have outpaced them toward the left.
    So let us hear what you mean by ‘hard Right’. And if starting with baby steps is easier, give a try to define what are the quintessential tenets of the plain old vanilla Right.

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17. 

    Todd Juvinall

    25 November 2018

    Best news I read today. In the SacBee, Prince Harry and his gal Meghan are vacating London digs for the Frogmore Cottage. This cottage is where, if I recall correctly, Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs lived. Or was it Cinderella? Anyway, good luck with the birth.

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18. 

    Todd Juvinall

    25 November 2018

    Hey Russ, did you read that 1600 page screed by the thirteen government agencies on “climate change”? The Bee had an article about it today and of course, those darn bureaucrats sure try to stir up the fear. Mostly about oceans rising up. I looked for some facts about that and would ask you to point us in the direction of that ocean rising.

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19. 

    George Rebane

    25 November 2018

    Designated Reader Report – I just received an email from our DRR who informed of the latest load of crap from the FUE. I used to think that such reporting and commentary was unbelievable, but my horizons regarding that kind of journalism were expanded some years back as I was exposed to his effluent.
    His message continues to still or minimize my public voice, and its delivery is wrapped with innuendos and outright lies in order to titillate his readership, some of whose comments are also worthy of a read. So let’s drive some traffic to his fetid echo chamber –
    https://sierrafoothillsreport.com/2018/11/23/local-elections-show-were-center-left-but-kvmr-still-promoting-rebanes-extreme-right-rants/

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20. 

    Russ

    25 November 2018

    Five Minutes to Total Progressive Control
    Want to know how powerful a voice George has in the community? His five-minute commentary once a week on KVMR is enough to stop progressives from supporting KVMR, all without considering the 7,195 minutes of progressive propaganda that comes from KVMR every week. Here are some comments from Jeff Pellines blog following his rant about George’s commentary on KVMR.
    Karla Arenssays:
    November 23, 2018 at 11:17 am
    Because of Rebane’s diatribe of hate, I’ve stopped supporting KVMR. The policy of KVMR to support distasteful, hateful and erroneously dangerous opinions in the name of some sort of liberal tolerance, is misguided and I won’t lend my ear or pocketbook to it.
    brucelevysays:
    November 23, 2018 at 3:33 pm
    I agree 100%. I stopped when Rebane started. Terribly misplaced magnanimity and just plain stupidity and willfulness on the part of KVMR.
    Just five minutes of conservative views are enough to change progressive behavior. Wow! Just think what would happen if George had 15 minute or a whole hour on KVMR?

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21. 

    Gregory

    25 November 2018

    George, how could you confuse a Publisher with an Editor?
    Everyone knows the pecking order… a Publisher, when faced with an incompetent, mean Editor given to yelling and bullying underlings and community members they’re dealing with, can fire his or her ass and show them the door.
    An editor, when faced with a troglodyte editor from the hinterlands who just can’t take a hint, cannot fire the Publisher.

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22. 

    George Rebane

    25 November 2018

    Gregory 1120am – Greg, thanks for pointing it out. In my haste, the titles got a mixed – correction applied. I’m glad it provided some factual basis for the FUE’s screed about me.

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23. 

    Todd Juvinall

    25 November 2018

    The left are so unaware of their hypocrisy that I ask how do they even get out of bed in tne morning? The FUE and his three commenters are so unaware of the “free speech/press” of America they have to be morons. The whole idea about our freedoms is it is all about the lowest common denominator (leftwing speech) yet they want to silence themselves! The FUE and his minions are simply ignorant and they supply me with a guffaw many times.

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24. 

    fish

    25 November 2018

    Posted by: M | 25 November 2018 at 09:06 AM
    They will try to deny democratic processes at all costs,,,
    Spare me your bleating Diaper Man……why would Team Stupid want to subject the electorate more grandstanding by Team Evil? Lord knows it’s about time they stopped these ludicrous Democrat shenanigans!
    Spartacus indeed……!

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    Todd Juvinall

    25 November 2018

    One last point. The FUE claims the county is center-left which to him means KVMR must silence center-right. But the FUE won’t allow center-right to debate his center-left screeds. What a hoot!

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26. 

    George Rebane

    25 November 2018

    We have to be careful about dismissing the Left’s progress to power. They are ascendant both nationally, and most certainly locally.
    As for a take on America’s education and the remnants of critical thinking, I invite RR readers to peruse the National Center for Education Statistics (especially the record of their longitudinal study on adult literacy), a rug that our leftwing educators don’t want us to look under. This Dept of Education site, no rightwing propaganda outlet by any means, puts the brightest ribbon around the performance numbers from our public schools, … but you be the judge.
    https://nces.ed.gov/

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27. 

    ***M***

    25 November 2018

    ,,,dear diaper inspector,,,spare me your excuses,,,denying Garland nomination with bogus Biden rule,,,denying subpoena power to House Democrats…

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    ***M***

    25 November 2018

    ,,,$200 million government funded election stunt stringing barbed wire in a few spots…
    Could have been better spent giving comfort to the Caravan Refugees on the Mexican side of the border instead of wasting your tax dollars,,,but hey it gives the concertina wire manufacturers JOBS!!!

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29. 

    fish

    25 November 2018

    Posted by: M | 25 November 2018 at 12:02 PM
    Take it up with Harry Reid Captain Underroos!

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30. 

    Don Bessee

    25 November 2018

    The oligarchs in Moscow are at it again –
    Ukraine’s navy says Russia has opened fire and seized three of its vessels off the coast of the annexed Crimea, in a major escalation of tensions.
    It said two gunboats and a tug were captured by Russian special forces after a chase. Two Ukrainian crew members were injured.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46338671
    😉

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31. 

    Bill Tozef

    25 November 2018

    I refuse to lower myself to give the FUE traffic, but I just made an exception. In and out in two minutes, if half that.
    Sounds personal. Sick people do sick things. Boy, Punchy and Dr. Rebane’s bromance really is a big sharp burr in his saddle. Punchy done good. :).
    I have noticed that when I make thinly veiled fat references lobbed his way, two days later the FUE is ranting about Dr. Rebane. Guilt by association, I reckon. At least Punchy kept that stenciled Stink Asses sign eating awway in his noggin for 10 days before erupting here. Wonder what set the FUE off? Oh, I bet he is still fuming over the untimely passing of Khashgigi, the former Saudi promoter. Thank you for sharing, your opinion is important to us. Fingers crossed.
    Rather than resort to images of blabbering oiled blubber and name calling, I shall take the high road today. Heck, Russ even defended the glossy penny saver publisher once by stating in no uncertain terms “starting a mag is a lot of work.” And I recently defended the FUE just before Turkey Day. Someone remarked he ain’t fit to eat with the pigs and I shot back, “Yes he is!”
    Hope he had a nice Thanksgiving with family, friends, and loved ones. An olive branch.
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10101878553321356&set=gm.518197975362373&type=3&theater
    On any given Sunday….

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32. 

    Russ

    25 November 2018

    Todd@10:55AM
    Yes, I read the Sac Bee report and cringed over the stupidity on display. There is hope:
    The studies clash with policy under President Donald Trump, who has been rolling back Obama-era environmental and climate protections to maximize production of domestic fossil fuels, including crude oil, already the highest in the world, above Saudi Arabia and Russia.
    White House spokeswoman Lindsay Walters said the new report was “largely based on the most extreme scenario, which contradicts long-established trends by assuming that…there would be limited technology and innovation, and a rapidly expanding population.”
    The government’s next update of the National Climate Assessment, she said, “gives us the opportunity to provide for a more transparent and data-driven process that includes fuller information on the range of potential scenarios and outcomes.”
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-climate-change-usa/clashing-with-trump-u-s-government-report-says-climate-change-will-batter-economy-idUSKCN1NS19D
    And, then there is this detail in Chapter 6 of the Assessment.
    Chapter 6 – Temperature Changes in the United States clearly shows and discusses, under the heading of “6.1.2 Temperature Extremes”, how temperature extremes for the contiguous United States have become more moderate over the last 118 years, with the coldest daily temperatures warming and the warmest daily temperatures cooling. In other words, the temperature-extreme-related climate in the United States has improved.
    The report counters the claim that temperatures are getting worse. Ah, the devil is always in the details. Carry on nothing to worry about.
    https://science2017.globalchange.gov/chapter/6/

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33. 

    fish

    25 November 2018

    Posted by: Bill Tozef | 25 November 2018 at 12:32 PM
    Uh oh…..sounds like somebody is about to get another patented FUE Dr. Phil psychological referral!

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34. 

    Don Bessee

    25 November 2018

    What treaty?
    Though a 2003 treaty designates the Kerch Strait and Sea of Azov as shared territorial waters, Russia has been asserting greater control over the passage since 2015.
    The Latest: Russia blames Ukraine for clashes at sea
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/latest-ukraine-russia-opens-fire-193304777.html
    😉

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35. 

    Don Bessee

    25 November 2018

    The towers of jelly that run the EU chime in, don’t do anything to provoke the russkies even if they shot up your ships in a orchestrated provocation. –
    12 a.m.
    The European Union has called on Russia and Ukraine to “act with utmost restraint to de-escalate” the situation in the Black Sea.
    Ukraine says that three of its ships have been seized by the Russian coast guard, including two that were fired upon, and two crew members were wounded. Russia has blamed Ukraine for preparing and orchestrating “provocations.”
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/latest-ukraine-russia-opens-fire-193304777.html
    😉
    The EU, in a statement from foreign affairs spokeswoman Maja Kocijanic, also said that it expected Russia to “restore freedom of passage” through the Kerch Strait after Moscow blockaded it.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/latest-ukraine-russia-opens-fire-193304777.html
    😉

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36. 

    Don Bessee

    25 November 2018

    Didn’t anyone tell them she lost?
    https://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2018/11/25/san-diego-port-entry-shut-down-migrants-rush-border-chanting-yes-we-can/
    😉

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37. 

    Bill Tozer

    25 November 2018

    @1:45 pm
    Think ‘Yes we can’ was an Obama thang. That is so 2008.
    ———————————
    @11:58, the good doc.
    “We have to be careful about dismissing the Left’s progress to power. They are ascendant both nationally, and most certainly locally.”
    Careful and fearful. They might unfriend you or worse.
    https://patriotpost.us/opinion/59568-even-astronauts-fear-the-left?fbclid=IwAR2BGX60b2jO-VpbqtZcQD6C8b5E2XQeVVOofHKeVSqDPExm3BdGEf6cuSo

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38. 

    Don Bessee

    25 November 2018

    Ah yes BT, team 0, it all comes back like a bad flashback!
    😉

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39. 

    Don Bessee

    25 November 2018

    Well she went wobbly on Brexit so why should we be surprised –
    She declined to take in Mrs Bibi, however, after unelected civil servants — on whom she relies heavily for advice on Brexit, foreign policy, and much else — advised her that it could “stoke tensions” among Britain’s over three million strong Muslim population, and prompt radicals overseas to attack British embassies and consulates.
    “[Home Secretary] Sajid [Javid] was very sceptical about the official advice, and pushed hard for her to be given asylum here,” claimed a senior government source quoted by the Mail on Sunday.
    “It eventually landed on the Prime Minister’s desk, but she just followed the advice of the officials,” they added.
    “[L]ots of Christians are disappointed by the British government not allowing her into the UK,” commented Qamar Rafiq, a human rights activist who had lobbied for Britain to take Mrs Bibi in.
    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/11/25/theresa-may-refuses-asylum-pakistani-christian-hunted-lynch-mobs-appease-british-muslims/
    😉

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40. 

    ***M***

    25 November 2018

    ,,,here they come,,,the Russians,,,I mean the Hondurans,,,I mean the El Salvadorians,,,I mean MS13 is coming!!!
    https://tinyurl.com/y7dmx3rj

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    ***M***

    25 November 2018

    ,,,another MS-13 mother of two injured trying to cross border
    https://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-mexico-border-mother-injured-20181124-story.html

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42. 

    Walt

    25 November 2018

    Thanks m,, I call it a good start.
    It’s HER fault if the kids get hurt. Just like if you took your kids to an ANTIFA “function” in Berkeley.

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43. 

    Walt

    25 November 2018

    This is taking things to a new level.
    Letting in all those Muslims was such a GREAT idea.
    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/11/25/theresa-may-refuses-asylum-pakistani-christian-hunted-lynch-mobs-appease-british-muslims/
    Theresa May has reportedly refused to grant a Pakistani Christian woman being hunted by lynch mobs for “blasphemy” asylum, after bureaucrats advised her it would cause upset in Britain’s Muslim community.
    Asia Bibi’s ordeal began when Muslim fieldworkers objected to her drinking from the same water supply as them, branding her “unclean” and telling her she should convert to Islam, which she declined to do.
    Days later, village imam Qari Muhammad Salaam declared she had committed blasphemy over the mosque loudspeakers. A baying mob dragged her before a makeshift sharia court with a leather noose around her neck, again demanded that she convert, and beat her with sticks and sandals when she again refused.
    Keith Ellison needs to be questioned on this. (what doe a an elected Muslim LIB think?)

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44. 

    Bill Tozer

    25 November 2018

    Evening Walt. Yeah, how much is that going to cost us? Dummie got impaled…she friggin impaled herself. Now, what kind of worker bee will she become?? Have Guatemala come and pick her and change her for the cleaning bill.
    @ 4:44 Woman and children first? Looks like they are running the wrong way! That ‘Women and children first’ was only for the Titanic and those white guys aboard who suddenly decided to self-identify as a woman. Also used by the Chinese in the Korean War, and ISIS and the North Vietnamese, and……
    Imagine those two…er…three who are cutting in line ahead of the thousand who are patiently waiting their turn. Shameful self centered behavior. Disgusting. Unruly children. Now, somebody needs to play the adult and tell them that they have to eat their peas and carrots before they get their dessert. Comprende? No means no in both English and Espanol. No. No cuts, no butting in line. Take your turn and think of others for a change. 3 down.

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45. 

    Don Bessee

    25 November 2018

    The po’ ol’ fakenewsman must still be mad about his rancid Russian dressing fantasies not panning out, at least he can still get old stormy discs –
    Nevada County Police Blotter: Caller concerned about Russian mafia, angel dust, FBI agents
    😉

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46. 

    Don Bessee

    25 November 2018

    What traits would be on emperor Xi’s wish list for his modern serfs/coolies –
    However, data submitted as part of the trial listing shows genetic tests have been carried out on fetuses as late as 24 weeks, or six months. It’s not known if those pregnancies were terminated, carried to term, or are ongoing.
    The birth of the first genetically tailored humans would be a stunning medical achievement, for both He and for China. But it will prove controversial, too. Where some see a new form of medicine to eliminate genetic disease, others see a slippery slope to enhancements, designer babies, and a new form of eugenics.
    https://www.technologyreview.com/s/612458/exclusive-chinese-scientists-are-creating-crispr-babies/
    😉

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47. 

    Walt

    25 November 2018

    Love it when a Grinch HOA takes it in the shorts.
    https://www.cdapress.com/local_news/20181122/jury_sides_with_morris_familyin_this_unusual_christmas_story
    OK,, some someone hates Christmas. Deal with it. Welcome to America.

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48. 

    Don Bessee

    25 November 2018

    @637 – saw another article on it and its not Christmas, its Christians they were trying to suppress.

    Gee, the Senators from Hawaii keep showing their true self’s –
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democratic-sen-brian-schatz-deletes-tweet-claiming-chemical-weapons-used-at-us-mexico-border
    😉

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49. 

    Bill Tozer

    26 November 2018

    Oh my, look at all those women and children.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IZCjWXNYCmM
    Well, here is a young woman who won’t make it back to class today.
    http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/11/26/illegal-immigrant-charged-death-texas-teacher-amanda-ferguson

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50. 

    Todd Juvinall

    26 November 2018

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez 15,897 57.5%
    Joseph Crowley* 11,761 42.5
    Audrey Denney(Party Preference: DEM)129,48245.0%
    * Doug La Malfa(Party Preference: REP)158,159 55.0% So you can see that someone as ignorant of life and politics can get elected in a liberal district.

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