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'Nationalism unites; tribalism divides.'

George Rebane

The concept and notion of nationalism is now thoroughly misunderstood and misconstrued across western countries.  The gist of the conversation or debate over nationalism is that it has been incorporated into the Left’s trans-national narrative as something that today portends giving rise to the more sinister angels of our collective nature.  To be more precise, leftwing politicians here and in Europe have unleashed the message that nationalism implies ‘white nationalism’ which implies ‘ethnic exclusion’ which represents the strong form of ‘racism’.  The lamestream media's daily outpouring makes all this very explicit, and it is swallowed hook, line, and sinker by the leftwing grassroots.  An example of this reveals itself in recent comment streams found in these pages.

French president Macron did no one a favor by lecturing Trump that “nationalism is counter to patriotism” while defining his understanding of neither term (more here).  Such simple and unexamined semantic conquests continue to be the modus operandi of how language is co-opted into politically correct newspeak.  In more measured moments each of us can look up the pre-progressive definition of nationalism to find it means –

"Nationalism is a political, social, and economic system characterized by the promotion of the interests of a particular nation, especially with the aim of gaining and maintaining sovereignty (self-governance) over the homeland." (Wikipedia)

Nationalism is “a sense of national consciousness exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups.” (Merriam-Webster)

Nationalism, “the strong belief that the interests of a particular nation-state are of primary importance. Also, the belief that a people who share a common language, history, and culture should constitute an independent nation, free of foreign domination.” (dictionary.com)

From these, and other such definitions, we see a common thread in an operational sense.  Nationalism is simply the ideological tenet that describes a nationalist as one who puts the interests of his own nation first when contending, comparing, or competing with other nations.  As such, there is nothing pejorative about any of these semantic variants.  And anyone of any color, religion, ethnicity, etc can join with others similarly distinguishable as a fellow nationalist to promote the sovereignty of a given nation-state.  (Sen Marco Rubio also expands on this here.)

Patriotism is nothing more or less that the expression of national pride within “the ideology of love and devotion to a homeland, and a sense of alliance with other citizens who share the same values.” (Wikipedia)  In other words patriotism is the display, exercise, and/or implementation of nationalism – i.e. patriotism is the practice and maintenance of nationalism.

Things get dicier when we start adding modifiers to create ‘white nationalism’ and ‘black nationalism’.  A white nationalist is not simply a nationalist of the Caucasian variety.  No, no, no.  The progressive definition of white nationalist has overt racial overtones such as white supremacy AND white separatism (two semantically orthogonal notions).  Today being called a white nationalist clearly assigns you to the deplorably racist neo-Nazi camp without any chance of redemption or opportunity to explain yourself using more precise language.

A black nationalist is not so encumbered, and enjoys a very asymmetrical definition.  “Black nationalism is a type of nationalism or pan-nationalism in the United States which seeks to promote, develop and maintain a black national identity for people of black ancestry.” (Wikipedia)  Nation of Islam and Black Power are functional expressions of such black nationalism.  Any such reciprocal notions of promoting, developing, or maintaining a white national identity for people of white ancestry is strictly forbidden.  Moreover, evincing any efforts in those directions will get you placed on several lists of suspect and bad people that are maintained by our law enforcement and intelligence agencies.  And should such leanings be known in your workplace, you likely will soon be unemployed.

For the record, there is no evidence that nationalist Republicans, Libertarians, conservetarians, conservatives, or Tea Party members embrace additional attributes of nationalism than those included in the above definitions.  However, this conclusion does not fit the narrative of the Left, ranging from so-called moderate Democrats to their most fringe socialist cum communist cadres.  The America of the non-Left is, has always been, and will remain an evil nation-state.  And of this, our children must continue to be carefully taught in union dominated public schools and academe.

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27 responses to “Nationalism cum Patriotism”

  1. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    It doesn’t seem to me that you run into white supremacists in the wild, even in the seedier parts of the web. The folks in the ethnostate camp are fairly common, but then that’s the normal state of humanity.
    I’d say that the invention of the farm tractor put paid to the notion of outright dominance, the profit is gone. Servants will just steal the silverware anyway.
    I do rather like the torture of logic that sez patriotism -> nationalism -> ethnonationalism ->neo-Nazi -> Nazi -> kills 6 million jews, but it’s a convenient bit of fiction from the people that invented ‘climate denier’.
    The truth is, if someone feels no tie to their state, why should I in turn watch out for them? If it’s just one big planet, you might as well give your tax dollars to the billions of people who are truly destitute, not some single mother on the Ridge.
    (as a side note, there were times when the Soviet Union, a decent stand-in for ‘communism’, was highly ethnically oriented. It was a recipe that they worked on for some time)

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  2. ***M*** Avatar
    ***M***

    ,,,Agenda 21 is a Christian conspiracy,,,
    ”’In the first 15 centuries of the Christian Era, the ideal was the universal world-state, not loyalty to any separate political entity.”’
    https://www.britannica.com/topic/nationalism

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  3. ***M*** Avatar
    ***M***

    ,,,A handwritten letter written by Albert Einstein warning of the dangers of growing nationalism and anti-Semitism years before the Nazis rose to power has been sold for nearly $40,000.
    ,,,The discovery and sale of the letter comes as governments in Europe grapple with a new rise of nationalistic and far-right sentiment — one which U.S. President Donald Trump appears to embrace.
    The Jews will not replace us!!! chants of trumpski’s ”’fine people”’ and the rise of nationalism,,,Einstein saw the writing on the wall…

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  4. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: M | 14 November 2018 at 02:41 PM

    1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.
    2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.
    3 And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them throughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter.
    4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
    5 And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
    6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
    7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.
    8 So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.
    9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.

    — Genesis 11:1–9[10]
    Your theology is as poor as every other thing you attempt!

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  5. George Rebane Avatar

    M 241pm – Mr M, you really do have some significant problems connecting the dots. However, keep those illustrative comments coming.

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  6. ***M*** Avatar
    ***M***

    lol,,,am I on a different page in the connect-the-dots book???

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  7. ***M*** Avatar
    ***M***

    ,,,fish is religious,,,who knew??? If you have issues with Brittanica take it up with them…

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  8. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: fish | 14 November 2018 at 02:57 PM
    Craps dugsKKKis……thats was meants for yours 2:33s!

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  9. Scott O Avatar

    George – you are being far too kind to M(oron). In order to be able to connect dots, you need to find more than one dot. M hasn’t found even one yet. He just swings wildly hoping at some point he might stumble onto some sort of truth.
    But hey – you keep swinging M. It’s good cardio.

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  10. ***M*** Avatar
    ***M***

    ,,,why look Scotto makes his first post and and it is only to adhominum attack someone,,,pathetic that he has nothing to contribute,,,needy for attention tonight Scotto???

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  11. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    “M” go to bed and make sure you pee before you fall asleep.

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  12. Scott O Avatar

    Keep swinging, M – you’re sure to hit something eventually.

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  13. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Notice how that troll uses multiple devices like someone we know well?
    😉

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  14. Tricky McClean Avatar
    Tricky McClean

    Let’s get these guys clearing brush, MAGA…defines patriotism AND nationalism!
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-02/millennial-men-leave-perplexing-hole-in-a-hot-u-s-labor-market

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  15. ***M*** Avatar
    ***M***

    ,,,Donnie Douchebag,,,really??? You don’t own more than one smart device??? The day trading not working out for ya??? Try Walmart,,, they are always looking for greeters

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  16. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    How special! Did you hear there these are things called IP addresses? Apparently not.
    😉

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  17. L Avatar
    L

    Give M his 2:33p point about the unitary world of early Christiandom. Somehow I don’t think he would be happy in a unitary world with Jesus Christ at the center. Likewise, he should be able to see how the rest of us don’t want that same kind of unitary world with Karl Marx at the center. L

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  18. George Rebane Avatar

    ‘Nationalism unites; tribalism divides.’ I added this tag line to my commentary as it so succinctly highlights the difference in the intents of the pro-American Right and the anti-American Left. The latter’s continuing introduction of additional tribal identities in our land is designed to thwart assimilation of our ‘pluribus’ into an ‘unum’, and therefore prepare the resulting disoriented, contentious, and weakened America to accede to a global government in order to restore social order, no matter the cost in liberty, individualism, and enterprise.

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  19. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: M | 14 November 2018 at 10:32 PM
    The day trading not working out for ya???

    That’s a good point…..day trading is for chumps……the real money is in movie piracy!

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  20. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Looks like FaceBook is in a nasty fight with George Soros. The left is eating its own. Could not happen to people and companies that deserved it more.
    https://www.foxnews.com/tech/facebook-new-york-times-fight-gets-ugly-social-network-slams-newspapers-inaccuracies

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  21. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Nationalism vs. Globalism
    In a 2016 column defending globalism, Never-Trumper Kevin Williamson was equally contemptuous. “The white American underclass is in thrall to a vicious, selfish culture whose main products are misery and used heroin needles,” he wrote. “Donald Trump’s speeches make them feel good. So does OxyContin.”
    What should happen to such Americans and their towns? “The truth about these dysfunctional, downscale communities is that they deserve to die,” Williams asserted.
    Such arrogance and conceit should surprise no one. It is emblematic of globalists for whom the “net plus” of international trade, unfettered immigration, and open borders, is a reasonable price to pay for the diminution of national identity and democracy — and the evisceration of patriotism.
    National interests that are anathema to the globalist agenda. Thus, a United Nations dominated by thugs, dictators, communists, and socialists has released a report calling for the silencing of anyone who objects to the globalist agenda. According to the UN, nationalism poses a “sobering threat to racial equality by fueling discrimination, intolerance and the creation of institutions and structures that will have enduring legacies of racial exclusion.”
    https://patriotpost.us/articles/59500-nationalism-is-despised-by-multi-nationalists?fbclid=IwAR2qDQL5pYZw0K-tr-hU8TYY4kVUTPHsSYBzbG2i3x30A4hl_3DjzKBNIi8

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  22. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Circling the wagons around the barn. Short link just repeats what has already been said.
    “Patriotism is a philosophy of national values: It is a statement that your nation has values that are eternal, true and noble. American patriotism prizes God-given individual rights protected by limited government. Were America to lose God-given individual rights protected by limited government, it would no longer be America. But patriotism doesn’t mean that it is the job of America to spread our values everywhere else to the detriment of our own national strength. Our patriotism encompasses American nationalism: We believe that America must come first so that America can be strong enough to promote her values where appropriate.
    “The opposite of nationalism, then, isn’t patriotism. It’s internationalism, or the idea that all human beings share similar values, and that, therefore, borders and national interests are irrelevant. That philosophy is utterly foolish and dangerous. Simply view tape of thousands of radical Muslims marching in Pakistan to protest the acquittal of a Christian woman from charges of blasphemy and realize that not all people believe the same things.
    “Nationalism, then, isn’t the problem. Lack of values is. And mistaking anti-nationalism for a value system in and of itself endangers free citizens who hold worthwhile national values dear.”

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  23. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    “Trump’s ideas are not ideological but rooted in our country’s history.
    “America was born between the end of the French and Indian War, the Declaration of Independence in 1776 and the ratification of the Constitution in 1788. Both the general who led us in the Revolution and the author of that declaration became president. Both put America first. And both counseled their countrymen to avoid “entangling” or “permanent” alliances with any other nation, as we did for 160 years.
    “Were George Washington and Thomas Jefferson lacking in patriotism?
    “Was de Gaulle lacking in patriotism?
    “By declaring American nationalists anti-patriotic, Macron has asserted a claim to the soon-to-be-vacant chair of Angela Merkel.”
    http://buchanan.org/blog/macron-to-trump-youre-no-patriot-130512

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  24. fish Avatar
    fish

    Nationalism……a “Hate Crime”?
    Nonsense!
    You want a Hate Crime……
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6401779/The-DOG-accused-hate-crime-fouling-outside-home-just-one-2-500-cases-probed.html
    Yes……I’m pretty sure that’s my dog……and the charges……sounds like something he would do.

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  25. fish Avatar
    fish

    The question answers itself……..

    MS-13 terrorized Mendota for nearly a decade. Why didn’t help come sooner?


    President Trump’s administration has targeted murderous gang MS-13, but the federal government hasn’t helped the town of Mendota CA in their fight against the criminals, say former and current city leaders.

    I’m sure that the Obama administration felt that those future democrats needed the opportunity to express themselves culturally in their new land!
    Read more here: https://www.sacbee.com/#storylink=cpy

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  26. fish Avatar
    fish

    In reading the article further it dawned on me that Mendota received the same level of indifference that the Obama administration usually reserved for “flyover” country! I guess President “Billion Dollar Brand” was to busy fleshing out the precepts of being President “Billion Dollar Brand” to be concerned …..or maybe that was right around “Beer Summit” time?

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