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[Apologies for the last sandbox getting a little rancid there.  We just returned from travel and I let things get away from me.  Well, now with all the additional stuff that's happened, there is a lot of catching up to do.  This morning NPR did a couple of hit pieces on President Trump, nimbly circling their innuendo wagons to blame him and the Republicans for all the current tragedies – happened and impending – while wondering why the other side doesn't stop "their hateful rhetoric" that is causing all this.  Of course, constantly pointing this out, their hands somehow remain clean.  gjr]

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  1. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    According the FBI Tallahassee was a kleptocracy. But hey, those Hamilton tickets were only worth a grand apiece. Chump change for the Tallahassee crew.
    😉

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  2. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    @8:15 pm
    Did Trump call him Andrew? That would be disrespecting the Mayor of crime infested Tallahassee. They must put something in the water down in Florida. Mercy. Gillum wants to turn no state tax Florida into CA. Mercy.
    https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2018/10/29/bomb-threats-lcs-schools-not-credible-say-district-officials/1807509002/

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  3. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Trump said the tickets were $1800 each! I watched Gillum debate Santis a week ago. He definitely is glib and has great comebacks. But he has never had a job other than a government.

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  4. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    On to Pittsburg. Ironically, two days before the shooting, the Pittsburg Public School Board banned having cops wearing guns on campus. Hmmm. Only 4 police officers were wounded trying to stop the Tree of Life Synagogue shooter.
    The Left hates the answer to the problem of stopping mass slayings. The answer is armed folks. We have armed guards and security at every important place and protecting every important person and venue. But, no. The Left wants only the government to have guns to protect us little people. 4 wounded cops might have been uninjured and more lives saved it the shooter was met with lethal force earlier….before the cops arrived.
    https://www.facebook.com/BuckSexton/photos/a.568156706588519/2177643912306449/?type=3&theater

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  5. ***M*** Avatar
    ***M***

    ,,,cue Kavanaugh and the Constitutional Crickets,,,
    ‘’’It was unclear what specific action his order would pursue, and Trump gave no other details.
    Trump has ratcheted up his hard-line immigration stance one week before U.S. congressional elections, as the country grapples with race and national identity amid bursts of violence, including a series of bombs sent to top Democrats and other Trump critics as well as the deadliest attack on a synagogue in U.S. history.
    Seeking to end so-called birthright citizenship outlined in the 14th Amendment would take direct aim at the Constitution and likely prompt immediately legal challenges and potential opposition in Congress.
    Changing an amendment in the Constitution would require the support of two-thirds of the U.S. House of Representatives and the Senate and the backing of three-fourths of U.S. state legislatures at a constitutional convention.
    But Trump said he has talked to his legal counsel and was advised he could enact the change on his own, contrary to the view of many constitutional experts.’’’

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  6. ***M*** Avatar
    ***M***

    ,,,Calling All Terrorists!!!
    ,,,Trump is our own homegrown Ayman al Zawahiri delivering Fatwas directed at news organizations, political opponents, and foreigners to his terrorist cells prompting IED makers and terrorists to conduct terror campaigns.

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  7. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: M | 30 October 2018 at 06:39 AM
    …..still president Meshuggah!
    You and your proglodyte comrades should jump into preparing for the 2024 elections now!

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  8. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: M | 30 October 2018 at 06:39 AM
    How goes the yard work?

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  9. fish Avatar
    fish

    Curious to know why bobsy cross had nothing to say about the 5 murdered in democrat controlled Chicago this weekend?
    I mean sure for democratic controlled Chicago it was a slow weekend but still!

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  10. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Birthright citizenship? Glad to see Trump raise the issue. The 14th Amendment was clearly written for the children of slaves . It barred birthright citizenship for children born here to foreign ambassadors and foreign diplomats serving their countries at posts here in the USA.
    The 14th Amendment has never been interpreted by SCOTUS, nor has much legislation ever has been written concerning its application. It’s just a matter of somebody suing and having SCOTUS look at the intent and meaning.
    Sweden, France, most all of Europe and a vast majority of the nation’s of the globe do not recognize birthright citizenship by foreigners, not to mention birthright citizenship of illegal aliens. Canada does, one of 34 countries in the world that have dual citizenship.
    This is a smart issue for Trump to bring up. Tourist “birth hotels” have been an issue with Russians and Chinese flying in in LA, dropping a kid, and leaving after birth. Hospitals along are border are going broke as hordes of illegals cross over, pop out a child, paying zero money, then retreat back to Mexico…or staying. A child with dual citizenship can receive aid, lower college tuitions, and at 21 (18 in Canada), can sponsor their parents for a permit residency green card. A retirement benefit for the parents. A meal ticket and entry ticket.
    The big issue is these vacation baby hotels for Chinese and Russians. While they may not be illegal, it is illegal to lie on a visa. Pregnant women are not allowed entry. Imagine thousands of Russians visiting here, giving birth to little Ivan’s, then fly back home. The baby becomes a US citizen and 18 years later thousands of Russians can vote in our elections, thus infererring and influencing our elections. Collusion! A Chinese child with dual citizenship and taken back to China after being popped out on the delivery table is eligible for private (non public ) schools in China, where as a millions of Chinese children without dual citizenship are not eligible, not to mention paying cheaper titution at UC Berekely than a forgeiner would pay.
    Interesting issue. No amendment needed. Just an interpretation by SCOTUS. Interesting, but talking about it is “Hate Speech!”
    “Consequently, if the president actually issues an executive order changing the birthright-citizenship policy, I doubt the sun will set before an injunction is issued. I am in favor of changing the current understanding of birthright citizenship, but I believe such a change must be done by statute to have any hope of surviving court-scrutiny . . . and even then, I give it less than a 50-50 chance.”
    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/donald-trump-end-birthright-citizenship-by-executive-order/

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  11. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Opps, maybe pregnant foreign women are not barred from the US. However, lying on a visa is against our laws and can bar one entry for life.
    “Birth tourism is the neighborhood’s incognito economic engine — dozens of pregnant Chinese women visit these shopping centers each day, walking from nearby maternity facilities or transported by cars the hotel operators provide. There’s OshKosh B’gosh, Babies R Us, Ibiya Family, mattress and crib stores, doctors, dentists and Chinese banks.
    Life in America tempts from the strip malls. Among the baby stores, there are home loans on offer, car rentals to go see the homes, real estate agents to guide shoppers and immigration attorneys to handle paperwork.
    Many mothers, like Tracy, consider staying. Her reasons have more to do with China’s flaws than U.S. freedoms.
    In Shanghai, she says, the buildings are tall and modern, but the rent is high. The skyline is beautiful, but the air isn’t clean and the food isn’t safe. The airport is architecturally impressive but inconvenient.The people speak her language, but they are always judging and comparing, evaluating the clothes she wears, the home and neighborhood she lives in, the school her children will attend. A life in America is a break from all of that.
    “Here people are not so competitive, trying to wear better clothes and use better things,” Tracy said. “I don’t even have to wear makeup.”
    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-birth-tourism-persists-20161220-story.html

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  12. ***M*** Avatar
    ***M***

    ,,,whitefishbait,,,is this your place that was on the Nevada County Home Tour recently???
    https://proxy.topixcdn.com/ipicimg/E3USIC14KJ02MAA9-v1-pad728x389xx444x.img
    I know a guy that could help you around the yard…

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  13. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    How does enforcing existing immigration laws give our president a “hard-line immigration stance”?

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  14. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: M | 30 October 2018 at 08:39 AM
    I don’t live in Nevada City you pitiful stoop labor endorsing racist!
    Keep brownie down eh dugsKKKi? To lazy to do your own yard work so lets import the third word huh?

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  15. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    Good heavens George. Do you honestly expect members of the Blue Mob to give you their theories on just what immigration law should be and how it should be enforced?
    It’s like asking for details on an ideal national healthcare system, you’ll simply get uninformed handwaving about ‘HOW IT IS IN DENMARK!’. Ideal gun laws consist of ‘COMMON SENSE!’ nonsense with no ideas that have any sense of technology or history. Abortion law arguments become post-menopause harridans screeching about their bodies with no thought given towards termination at 1 month or 8.5 months.
    The Blue Mob is a mob, nothing more. It has an emotional sense of what it needs, but in the end it’s just good for burning things.

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  16. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Social Justice?
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10101857385666506&set=gm.504952426686928&type=3&theater
    Under the category, “Glad I don’t watch TV”: The Problem with Apu.
    Apu: A 20 year TV series cartoon character on The Simpsons is being written out. The death script. Apu, a hardworking immigrant of Indian decent owns a convince store. Akin Joe Biden’s remark about walking into a 7-11 and seeing they are all owned by forgeiners…Indians. The biggest no-no that offends the Left is that Apu’s voice over is preformed by a white guy. That is sooo wrong. Big taboo. The other violation is sterotyping those of Indian decent.
    Will Apu take this sitting down??
    https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocratsLogic/photos/a.1648005522084023/2252826574935245/?type=3&theater

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  17. ***M*** Avatar
    ***M***

    ,,,How much do taxpayers pay to fly trumpski around the country to golf courses and campaign stops? Ever notice how many ”’chopper chats”’ he does?
    ,,,How much will taxpayers pay to mobilize 5000 soldiers and send them to the border as a political campaign stunt??? Machine guns on full auto,,,there is a woman pushing a stroller!!!
    ,,,oh, to be a self-righteous Republican!!!

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  18. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: M | 30 October 2018 at 09:21 AM
    Oh Lil dugsKKKi Feculant you’re right….we should be like San Francisco and spend $300,000 to register 49 illegal immigrants to vote in school board elections.
    Sound thinking Diaper Man!

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  19. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    re: M@9:21AM
    Cool. A member of the Blue Mob speaks.
    So, just exactly what should the immigration laws be? How many people should be allowed to immigrate to the US every year and how should they be picked? Should there be a limit at all?
    It’s hard to feel much outrage over a President who slightly ramps up enforcement of existing law, evidently you want new law.
    After you educate us, you can have a few 1QT single servings of this.
    https://www.benjerry.com/flavors/pecan-resist-ice-cream

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  20. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Trump may toss the 14th Amendment and not allow illegals to pop a kid here and make them a citizen. It was a post Civil War attempt to keep the south from not letting resident blacks from being a citizen.

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  21. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    re M 921am – Continuing evidence that the Left either promotes the ‘inalienable right’ of all people unhappy with their own country to come here illegally, or is just too intellectually handicapped to understand that the sovereignty of a nation-state begins with securing its borders. Of course, most of the Left would like to do away with America’s sovereignty, because for them America is and has been the source of all the world’s ills and evils.
    And here is a man enjoying the 1st Amendment while selling them the rope with which they will hang us (him included).
    https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/29/tom-steyer-donald-trump-saddam-hussein/

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  22. George Boardman Avatar

    The 14th amendment makes it real clear that you’re a citizen if you are born in the U.S., and says nothing about the status of parents.
    Will all of those originalists Republicans put on the Supreme Court uphold the 14th as written, or will they do some social engineering to accommodate our dear leader?

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  23. Bill Tozer the Dreg of Society Avatar
    Bill Tozer the Dreg of Society

    @9:55 am
    Any mention of enforcing immigration law as written gets the predictable never disappointing knee jerk reaction from the Left. More consistent than the law of gravity.
    While a few may utter they are not for open borders, they promote open borders unabashedly…without calling it open borders. Vehemently opposed to ending the migration lottery, chain migration, vetting, or anything that comprises admission to the US on meritorious considerations. Akin to merely mentioning voter fraud. The knee jerk emotional reaction to voter ID is somehow an assualt on life, liberty, and the rule of law. Must not go there, you will not go there, racist!
    I see the bigger issue (Divide?) as the Right and Libertarians view conservatism as a philosophy while the Left (liberals) views progressivism as an ideology. Philosophy vs ideology is the crux of the problem here in spouting one’s worldview.
    I have searched and searched in vain for a comment written by a Australian born Hong Kong journalist after Obama’s trip to Australia. Obama publicly dissed the PM on stage and in a speech… a speech to a school where the Australian government in advance strongly urged Obama to refrain to going to and not on the internary. After much handwringing by the journalists as why Obama would treat America’s best alley in the world with so much contempt, the journalist said it best:
    To paraphrase, “If you disagree with Obama on politics, he is ok with that. If you disagree with Obama on ideology, he will hate you.”
    We seem to disagree with the Left on ideology and they automatically hate us.
    Bottomline: Is America an idea or an ideal (if you prefer) , or is America a nation?

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  24. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Sorry Boardman you will lose that one. The “intent” of the 14th was for former slaves not illegals. And the “intent” was to keep a child born to a illegal or a diplomat from getting instant citizenship. This is going to be a fun battle.

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  25. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Looks like the left and the democrats are really intent on beating Cruz in Texas. He is up five today.
    Ted Cruz (R) • Incumbent $40,118,702
    Beto O’Rourke (D) $69,099,704

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  26. Bill the Dreg of Society Tozer Avatar
    Bill the Dreg of Society Tozer

    Tom Steyer? On Sunday Trump tweeted that Tom Steyer is “stumbling lunatic.” The next day Steyer released his three minute FB ad proving Trump’s characterization, lol
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-mocks-democratic-megadonor-tom-steyer-the-target-of-a-pipe-bomb-as-stumbling-lunatic/2018/10/28/d4bebd0a-dad5-11e8-85df-7a6b4d25cfbb_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.4cb99a3b8497
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    Boardman. For one hundred years after the 14th Amendment was passed, not one person was granted birthright citizenship. One hundred years later, birthright citizenship suddenly was granted to the offspring of illegal aliens and tourists.
    Glad that Trump has started a conversation on this issue. Never hurts to discuss it.
    Bottomline: It does not matter what you, I, or TV pundits and panels think, The only opinion that matters what SCOTUS says. It would be nice to see Congress do it’s Constitutional mandates and pass laws instead of relinquishing it’s powers to the Executive Branch….something that has been going on for far too long.

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  27. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    re GeorgeB 1054am – I want to point out that the leftist in these and other outlets dealing in such questions never address the whole of any issue, only the part (many times misinterpreted) that bolsters the supportive narrative of their collectivist ideology. To use the 14th to justify anchor babies without addressing the original intent (as pointed out by several commenters above) is to enter into a fraudulent debate on the matter, either through ignorance (which I doubt in Mr Boardman’s case) or through willful subterfuge seeking to influence the lightly read.

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  28. Paul Emery Avatar

    The Pubbers are such whiners…Won’t take responsibility for their own decisions.
    Republican Senate candidate Martha McSally (R-AZ) complained in a recent interview that she is getting her “ass kicked” because she voted to repeal President Barack Obama’s health care reform law. Latest polls show her trailing by 6 in the Arizona Senate Race.
    “McSally made the admission during a recent interview with conservative radio host Sean Hannity,
    “Well, Sean, I did vote to repeal and replace Obamacare on that House bill — I’m getting my ass kicked for it right now because it’s being misconstrued by the Democrats,” she said. “They’re trying to, you know, invoke fear in people who have family members or loved ones with pre-existing conditions.”
    McSally has repeatedly voted to repeal the Affordable Care Act, which is known as “Obamacare.”
    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/10/gop-senate-candidate-martha-mcsally-im-getting-ass-kicked-vote-repeal-obamacare/

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  29. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    PaulE 1133am – How is an explanatory retort to a political attack like that construed as ‘whining’? What does ‘to whine’ mean in your lexicon?

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  30. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 30 October 2018 at 11:33 AM
    Pot meet Kettle……

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  31. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Dr Rebane penned to Boardman:
    “I want to point out that the leftist in these and other outlets dealing in such questions never address the whole of any issue, only the part (many times misinterpreted) that bolsters the supportive narrative of their collectivist ideology.”
    Illegal immigration? Nothing to see here…just ask Cesar Chavez.
    https://patriotpost.us/articles/59148-video-illegal-immigration-its-about-power?fbclid=IwAR0dsQGxdVo-sALPe7bAewNdNNh0_OJEvdBzDV1-xn7Ehay5skxVmcwnFAk
    ———————-
    Anchor babies? Can’t say anchor babies. It’s insulting…. More on the 14th Amendment.
    https://patriotpost.us/articles/59164-trump-mulls-ending-birthright-citizenship-via-eo?fbclid=IwAR2TjbN65svMbZQ2DZ_CB4Peom8j822IsfML8nxWrIjoP2BlBcLVSvQNqTU

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  32. Paul Emery Avatar

    George
    Complaining about the repercussions of your own decisions is whining in my opinion.

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  33. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    McSally will win. Sinema is being exposed for the commie she is.

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  34. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    PaulE 1210pm – I didn’t see any complaining, only an honest and open explanation. And your expansion of characterizing all ‘Pubbers’ as whiners who don’t take responsibility for their own decisions is way off the mark. McSally gave no indication that she was not responsible for her Ocare vote, or the Dems’ political use of that vote. Such gratuitous mischaracterizations reduce/remove any credibility that you are anything save a dedicated dyed-in-wool progressive (i.e. forget the ‘libertarian’ claims).

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  35. Paul Emery Avatar

    Simea is up by 6 in todays poll Todd.
    George
    Are you saying that the Republicans did not intend to repeal the pre existing conditions mandate when they tried to dump Obamacare? Do you support the mandate?

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  36. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 30 October 2018 at 12:34 PM
    I don’t know if Sinema is going to win but if she wants to she should shut up and read strictly from the script! Extemporaneous speaking is killing her!

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  37. Paul Emery Avatar

    Killing her fish? She’s up by 6. What do you estimate her support would be without her “Extemporaneous speaking”?

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  38. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    endless editorial writer G Boardman sez: “The 14th amendment makes it real clear that you’re a citizen if you are born in the U.S., and says nothing about the status of parents.”
    I spent a little bit of time diving into the minutia of that, and it’s not so clear. It’s kind of an interesting bit of history and law to travel down.
    …that’s assuming that you bother to research anything before declaring it to the world of course. It’s a privilege of age I guess to just blurt out any old thing.
    It’ll be an interesting Supreme Court case if it goes as expected: (Trump EO -> 9th Court ->Supreme Court)
    As a practical matter, pregnancy tourism with the aim of US citizenship is gaming the law, but the Open Borders folks will do whatever it takes.

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  39. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    ToddJ: “McSally will win. Sinema is being exposed for the commie she is.”
    I would hope so. Even a diehard (D)would admit that Sinema is a piece of work.

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  40. Paul Emery Avatar

    George, complaining that you’re getting your “ass kicked” because of voting to repeal President Barack Obama’s health care reform law sure sounds like whining to me.

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  41. Paul Emery Avatar

    Scenes
    So glad you’re paying attention to the RCP consensus polls. those are the same polls that show the Dems way up in the Congressionals and Trump way down on job approval. The polls you cite are very old, going back to early Oct. the latest show Sinema up by 6 and 3.

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  42. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 30 October 2018 at 01:07 PM
    Tell me again how the polls had Hillary as a shoe in Punch.

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  43. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 30 October 2018 at 01:15 PM
    Calling the police because you thought your idiotic mime show was going to be disturbed because somebody posted a sign sounds like whining to me!

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  44. Paul Emery Avatar

    Fish
    I was being a responsible concert promoter Fish. What would you have done? Polls never said Hillary was a shoe in Fish. RCP consensus had her up by 3. She won the popular vote by 2. Of course that’s not the EC so it didn’t matter. The polls were accurate though on the national numbers.

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  45. fish Avatar
    fish

    Tell me again how to close html

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  46. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 30 October 2018 at 01:37 PM
    If you were a responsible “ concert promoter” you wouldn’t have booked mimes in the first place!
    Regardless Punch it was clearly whining to the sheriff!
    …..and you clearly thought she was a “shoe in” to win since you felt compelled to do your “Hillary is going to win” touchdown dance for Gregory!

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  47. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    re: ‘Crickets’@1:27PM
    Honestly, I don’t know how well polls track actual results.
    The interesting thing is that, in Arizona, a bonafide combat veteran can be basically heads-up with a fairly radical left-wing politician.
    It isn’t like the existing people saw the light and became socialists. Population replacement is a real thing. I can see the same thing happening in Texas with the influx of Californians and Mexican nationals.
    The take-away is that if you want a government of your liking, you need to be careful about your borders.
    BTW: What do you think immigration law should be? Be careful in answering, you don’t want the rest of KVMR torching your car.

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  48. fish Avatar
    fish

    The interesting thing is that, in Arizona, a bonafide combat veteran can be basically heads-up with a fairly radical left-wing politician.
    “Arizona is the meth lab of democracy” ….not a bad line but hardly the way to endear yourself to the electorate!

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