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Sandbox – 22aug18

22 August 2018

[Well, as testimony to the exciting times in which we live, the old sandbox filled in a day or so. Please use the last Scattershots to ensconce your comments about the implications of Cohen's attempt to incriminate his former boss of illegal campaign spending. gjr]

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212 responses to “Sandbox – 22aug18”

scenes

23 August 2018

Green Libertarians create jobs…..
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-22/san-francisco-poop-patrollers-make-185000

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Bill Tozer

23 August 2018

Poop-a-Roni, the San Fransico treat
http://www.stripersonline.com/surftalk/topic/734265-poop-a-roni-the-san-francisco-treat/
Too funny. 16,000 complaints of poop in Frisco in just one week. “Hey, somebody just took a crap in front of my house”.
To add to the Frisco Values lingo, The Santuary City by the Bay is providing “housekeepers” to clean up messes by homeless. Like, how can you be a “housekeeper” for those who don’t have houses?
Not available in California. Frisco Values and alll.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343/1392209534246413/?type=3&theater

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scenes

23 August 2018

BillT@9:23AM Maybe we need a new version of a Martin Mull blues tune.
I woke up this afternoon, there’s more feces than I’ve ever seen
I woke up this afternoon, there’s more feces than I’ve ever seen
I felt so lowdown deep inside
I gotta wonder where they’ve been peein’

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Bill Tozer

23 August 2018

….theme song…21 seconds
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtWz_XlOass

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Paul Emery

23 August 2018

Bill, Scenes
I agree that homelessness is a serious and growing problem. Not sure what should be done about withoug dealing with the root causes which are complex and deep. What ideas do you have about the problem?

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fish

23 August 2018

Posted by: Paul Emery | 23 August 2018 at 10:28 AM
What ideas do you have about the problem?
Yes Bill…..what ideas do you have about the problem? WHAT IDEAS……WHAT!!!!!!!

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Paul Emery

23 August 2018

The murder of Mollie Tibbetts is a sad and tragic story but it’s defiantly being exploited by Trump as a diversion from his legal problems. He didn’t raise nearly this kind of concerns about the death or 17 teenagers at Parkland HS in Florida. Totally anecdotal message from Trump. Disgusting exploitation and I’m glad members of her family are aware of it.

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Gregory

23 August 2018

Twenty years ago I saw my first human turd on a sidewalk. A footlong expertly laid in the middle of the concrete, in front of the Moscone Center, in downtown ‘Frisco.
Bravo!

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fish

23 August 2018

Posted by: Gregory | 23 August 2018 at 10:41 AM
Up near UCSF/SF General……in a doorway. Looked just like the emoji!

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Paul Emery

23 August 2018

Gregory
what is the point you are trying to make with such a graphic description?

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Don Bessee

23 August 2018

Its the economy stupid!
In the week ending August 18, new claims for unemployment benefits came in at 210,000, a decrease of 2,000 from the previous week’s 212,000. Economists had expected claims to rise to 215,000.
https://www.breitbart.com/economics/2018/08/23/jobless-claims-better-than-expected-again-210000-vs-215000-expected/
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fish

23 August 2018

Posted by: Paul Emery | 23 August 2018 at 11:05 AM
Not speaking for Gregory but their appears to be a degree of admiration for “San Francisco Values” in your neck of the woods…..a certain corpulent former editor of your local newspaper used to go on at length about them!
Since public defecation seems to be “accepted” in SF just thought it would be interesting to discuss when non residents got to participate in the San Francisco Fecal ritual!
As observers not participants of course!

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Gregory

23 August 2018

Punchy 1105am
What do you think the point was?

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Paul Emery

23 August 2018

Don’t knbow. Perhaps you were trying to be clever. everyone knows the extent of the problem of homeless people in the streets of SF of which you’re graphic is an example. Are you saying that’s important new information or are just trying to be clever?

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Gregory

23 August 2018

New information that’s two decades old? Really?

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George Rebane

23 August 2018

PaulE 1127am – IMHO, it is just as important to keep reminding people of the mess the Dems have made of SF, as long as they continue trying to export those values statewide (nationwide?). Such reminders are the analogue of your constant efforts to denigrate the Trump administration (e.g. gleeful poll quotes) because you would like to constrain Trump’s influence on our nation. My only wish is that you would debate the merit of any of the things Trump’s policies have achieved rather than your unswerving focus on his poll numbers and inconsequential ‘lies’. But instead you fly in tight formation with what is now the announced election tactic by the Dem leadership – to focus on Trump’s travails rather than present a competing platform of policies. You have been prescient in this regard, because this is the tactic you have already implemented since Trump was sworn in.

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Don Bessee

23 August 2018

Its getting tough to be emperor Xi –
At issue is a government torn between GDP growth and deleveraging. China entered the year with a tough stance, aiming to prevent its own Minsky Moment. But as trade friction with the U.S. escalates, Beijing is starting to relent. It’s become clear that China’s economy isn’t as resilient as some thought: Manufacturing indexes have weakened, consumer confidence is sliding, and stocks are in a bear market.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-08-22/china-s-economic-policy-levers-jammed-in-trump-s-flip-flop-world?srnd=fixedincome
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Don Bessee

23 August 2018

MAGA!
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/22/target-ceo-credits-strong-growth-with-the-best-consumer-environment-hes-ever-seen.html
😉

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rl crabb

23 August 2018

It’s getting pretty bad when even your pecker turns on you… https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/08/donald-trump-national-enquirer-allies-defect-david-pecker-michael-cohen

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Gregory

23 August 2018

We’ve been here before
http://reason.com/blog/2018/08/22/something-great
Punchy, there isn’t anyone in ‘Frisco that admits to being to the right of DiFi. There is no one else to blame.

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scenes

23 August 2018

re: PaulEmery & The Homeless “What ideas do you have about the problem?”
Drugs and alcohol have always been around. God knows how many bars NC had in it’s heyday and there was no problem buying bottles of laudanum at the local pharmacy.
A good start might be a combination of two things: readily available low end jobs and really mean cops.
Given the lack of horse stables and mines at this point combined with a police force that is told to let homeless people do as they like, you get a predictable result.
An additional solution might be to build a bunch of 2 ton human-drawn gypsy wagons as part of a feel-good effort.

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Walt

23 August 2018

Ahhhh.. The homeless… I say make the LIBS take them in.
Just take the DEM voter roll and start dropping them off at the registered address. Be sure Paul gets his fair share.
It a fine solution. Make LIBs do what they demand of the taxpayer.
LIBS are already “Frisco-ing” Nevada Co. The damned lowlifes are everywhere. They don’t want to work, and demand handouts.
Even the dude on the corner with a cardboard sign saying “will work for food”,, WON’T!!! He wanted the dollar.
The same for the guy using his supposed family as props. Didn’t want the work that was offered.( we needed a shovel and broom guy)
The LIBS have done a fine job of producing deadbeats.

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Todd Juvinall

23 August 2018

When I was in Alabama visiting my friend with pancreatic cancer we traveled to Pensacola Florida to the VA there. My friend has a lifetime friend who is also a Marine vet. He lives in his car! And I discussed this at lenf=gth with him. He likes the lifestyle. No rules, no taxes, no BS from the government. He likes it and wants no change. He is 67.

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Bill Tozer

23 August 2018

Todd
How true. Known many of such a person. They would rather chew off their arms than be forced into some shelter with rules or fill out some paperwork. Known quite a few in this area. It’s freedom to them. It was to me. But, then again, I have lived by the creed, “If you accept the white man’s money, you sell them your soul.” It has served me well in life.
My thoughts about poopville, homeless, high percentage of drug use, sloth? Oh, being experienced with the topic, it would take me pages to write out my thoughts. Thus, I shan’t.
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Bill Tozer

23 August 2018

Let’s see how the invasion is going, shall we?
Rape in Sweden. Low conviction rates. Never thought I would see the day where a right wing party would have a chance of winning an election. Wonder what is causing that?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45269764
n Spain, 300 young men of military age stormed the Wall, splashing police with acid. Then they danced and stopped for prayers. No women or children in the invading force.
https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/08/hundreds-of-migrants-storm-spanish-border-and-attack-police-with-acid/

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scenes

23 August 2018

re: BillT@2:27PM It’s funny how zombie movies and books strike such a chord.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnpF10zZgcI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFkTluEP8tA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adjDkeErkr8
I’d love to hear what “M”, Paul, and the crew think that the Spanish should do. Just exactly what physical security and laws should they have?

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Robert Cross

23 August 2018

In the “Mouse that Roared” dept. Jeff Sessions fired back at trump for his latest attack. Trump said. “Even my enemies say that Jeff Sessions should have told you that he was going to recuse himself, and then you wouldn’t have put him in. He took the job and then he said I’m going to recuse myself. I said: ‘What kind of a man is this?………You know the only reason I gave him the job? Because I felt loyalty, he was an original supporter. He was on the campaign. He knows there was no collusion.”
To Which Sessions replied, “While I am attorney general, the actions of the Department of Justice will not be improperly influenced by political considerations.”
It seems Sessions is finally growing some cajones, along with Cohen, Pecker, and a host of others who are no longer intimidated by the goombah master.

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Todd Juvinall

23 August 2018

Sessions always had the cajones. Even when you and your lib ilk were screaming at him for his position against illegals when he was a Senator. Funny how you punks on the left will make nice with all those devil’s when it suits your hate against Trump or Republicans. You are a shameless idiot and we all laugh at your false praise. And Cohen is a democrat I understand and a good one too. Pecker is a publisher and you might worry that your pals at Mother Jones could be next.

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Robert Cross

23 August 2018

Todd, you seem to get angrier by the day. I totally understand. It must be tough watching your idol turn out to be a liar and a con man just like those nasty liberals said from the beginning.
Question for all: What do you think about trump giving Manafort a pardon? He has been hinting at it for months. Typical goombah stuff, keep your mouth shut and get a pardon. A juror said Manafort would have been convicted on all 18 counts had one juror not hung the jury. In other words, the dude is guilty as hell of committing multiple felonies. It was probably a trump voter who believes the truth is not the truth that hung the jury.

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Paul Emery

23 August 2018

George,
How do you define an “inconsequential lie”?
Would you call lying to the American people about North Korea’s nuclear capabilities and ambitions by saying:
“Just landed – a long trip, but everybody can now feel much safer than the day I took office. There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea. ” an “inconsequential lie”? There’s no way you could possibly believe it’s true.
I’ve got dozens more of Trumps lies but lets start with that one. Is it true or is it a lie?

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Gregory

23 August 2018

Back to climate change!
https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/21/opinions/if-trump-and-gop-dont-get-climate-change-they-dont-deserve-public-office-filipovic/index.html
Ms.Filipovic has a double major in journalism and politics (two sides of the same coin) and a J.D. Probably hasn’t taken a ‘science’ class since her ‘Your Friend, the Amoeba’ class she took to meet a general ed requirement.
There is a fire weather alert for Nevada County this Sunday… high winds and low humidity. But we’re exiting from the summer peak heat season, slowly… it ain’t over until the first soaking rains… but we will have the wet and ice season soon. Along with the obligatory reminders, missing this past summer, that it’s weather, not climate.

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Todd Juvinall

23 August 2018

Robert Cross | 23 August 2018 at 04:09 PM
Not angry at all. Actually loving how you libs are on a daily drama queen carousel. You are the angry ones. You just can’t get anything to stick on Trump. Your ilk did the same to Reagan and Bush. Did not work. So take your meds and relax, I love our kicking your lib asses all over the place.

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Gregory

23 August 2018

Punchy 431pm
That’s hyperbole from a salesman. It truly was of no consequence save to present a happy face to the NorKs… no weapons were scrapped, we didn’t let NorKs into the War Room and give them they keys to the Football.
A consequential lie is personified by “If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor”.

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Bill Tozer

23 August 2018

Remember Mollie
https://m.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913/10155842083560914/?type=3&source=48
Fauxohondas is a liar? I believe that these two ladies have opposing points of view.
http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/08/22/angel-mom-blasts-elizabeth-warren-after-mollie-tibbetts-murder-lying-about-immigration
Remember Mollie and thousands of others.

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Paul Emery

23 August 2018

Wrong Gregory
It’s a lie to give the American people false assurances of securety and safety to promote a fake agenda. Can’t think of a more outright lie. Amazed that you think it’s just “hyperbole from a salesman”. The “salesman” is the President of the United States talking to the American people.

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Don Bessee

23 August 2018

You can keep your doctor, you can keep your insurance was a orchestrated lie by the whole of the 0 administration. @456
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Gregory

23 August 2018

Wrong, Punchy. There was no dancing in the streets, and the agenda, talking to the Norks, wasn’t and isn’t fake.
“Truthful hyperbole” is Trump’s style. One of the reasons I didn’t vote for him.
If you can’t “think of a more outright lie”, you just can’t think. And you don’t think, over and over.

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Paul Emery

23 August 2018

Gregory
Talking to the NK’s and reporting lies about the results are two different things. Amazing that you are so gullible to Trumps bullshit.

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Gregory

23 August 2018

Reality Winner lost in court today. Five + years for leaking a classified document.

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Paul Emery

23 August 2018

Gregory
Here’s a contemporary lie for you’re reading pleasure:
“The first denial that Donald Trump knew about hush-money payments to silence women came four days before he was elected president, when his spokeswoman Hope Hicks said, without hedging, “We have no knowledge of any of this.”
The second came in January of this year, when his attorney Michael Cohen said the allegations were “outlandish.” By March, two of the president’s spokesmen — Raj Shah and Sarah Huckabee Sanders — said publicly that Trump denied all the allegations and any payments. Even Cohen’s attorney, David Schwartz, got in on the action, saying the president “was not aware of any of it.”
In April, Trump finally weighed in, answering a question about whether he knew about a payment to porn star Stephanie Clifford, who uses the stage name Stormy Daniels, with a flat “no.”
It’s now clear that the president’s statement was a lie — and that the people speaking for him repeated it.”
By Glenn Kessler
The Fact Checker
August 22 at 8:57 PM

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Gregory

23 August 2018

punch 512pm
Sticks and stones, luv. I find it amazing you’d pick that, out of all of Trump’s utterances, to personify a big lie. Gullible? I knew what it was when it was first uttered.
But then you thought the movie “Bob Roberts” was funny.

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Gregory

23 August 2018

Punchy 519pm
Anything about “Stormy Daniels” is inconsequential almost by definition.

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Bill Tozer

23 August 2018

Quote time
It begins: “It’s a game changer. Should be. A president, identified as an unindicted co-conspirator of a federal crime … is on the verge of making a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court — a court that may someday soon determine the extent of the president’s legal jeopardy. In my view, the Senate Judiciary Committee should immediately pause the consideration of the Kavanaugh nomination.” —Sen. Chuck Schumer
“We should be pushing to postpone the Kavanaugh hearing. This nomination is now tainted with illegality, because the president who’s nominated Brett Kavanaugh has been implicated in a criminal conspiracy, not just any criminal conspiracy, but one that impacted the outcome of the election.” —Sen. Richard Blumenthal
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Two Leftinistas chime in on Mollie T. On course the “journalist” blames toxic masculiay, dud. The other decided there was no benefits to White Privilege and became a Redskin. A Washington Redskin. Daughter of Chief Grand Cherokee. A princess. NAP. Native American Princess.
Ok, class, let’s get down to the root causes of The real problem. In my time, it was “All we need to do is get the Mexican economy built up and humming along and have factories down there and have good paying jobs for the workers and they won’t want to come to the US” narrative. Taken as the gospel truth. Who could disagree with that? No problem, looks good in academia.
Mexico hit oil, discoveries of oil field everywhere and opened up the gulf for them to boot. They can drill in some parts of our waters, we can’t. Sweet. Petro dollars will solve the problem. Oppps. Corrupt Gov officials and the corrupt union bosses done swindled that plan away. Ok, NAFTA will solve our “border problem”. No? Ok, how about technology? Dunno, Jury is out on that one. Meh-he-co just elected a Marxist, so it’s going ain’t going to get any better. Only a hell of a lot worse. Marshall Plan for Central America next? The root causes, eh?
“I’m so sorry for the [Mollie Tibbetts] family here, and I know this is hard, not only for the family but for the people in her community, the people throughout Iowa. But one of the things we have to remember is we need an immigration system that is effective. That focuses on where real problems are. Last month, I went down to the border, and I saw where children had been taken away from their mothers. … And there was no plan for how they’d be reunified with their children.” —Sen. Elizabeth Warren
“Mollie Tibbetts was murdered b/c she told a man to leave her alone while she was jogging. Her murderer happens to be undocumented. This isn’t about border security. This is about toxic masculinity. Mollie Tibbetts lost her life b/c a man couldn’t take her saying no. Full stop.” —CNN’s Symone D. Sanders
… “No, Mollie’s death isn’t about her killer’s immigration status. Conservatives only caring when they hear ‘illegal immigrant’ is just as evil as liberals ceasing to care when they hear it. But the reason it’s worth noting is because it wouldn’t have happened if he weren’t here.” —Allie Stuckey

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Don Bessee

23 August 2018

The ayatollah and fat lil’ kim are having a meeting in a bunker and there is a knock on the door and they ask ‘whos there?
Reply- its the spirt, ready for the long sleep?
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2018/08/23/new-air-force-b-2-earth-penetrating-nuclear-weapon-changes-combat-strategy.html
😉

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George Rebane

23 August 2018

PaulE 428pm – To you a lie is any statement a person makes that later turns out not to be true, whether the statement was a deliberate falsification of what happened, or an assessment of what may happen in the future that doesn’t come to pass. I, and people who think like me, do not characterize the latter assessments as lies (although I do understand why you and yours must do so). So if you do call such misconstruals of what will be known in the future as lies, then I characterize them as inconsequential. Your logic would have every economist, stock analyst, financial analyzer, and even physicians who issue wrong diagnoses be labeled a liar. Therefore, suit yourself, as long as we all know your game.

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Scott Obermuller

23 August 2018

“It seems Sessions is finally growing some cajones, along with Cohen, Pecker, and a host of others who are no longer intimidated by the goombah master.”
Bobby is really in love with this millionaire tax cheat. I called him on it and he tried to claim he doesn’t really believe Cohen. Well – if you don’t swallow Cohen’s lie, where the heck does that leave Mueller?
Cohen was caught biggly in a tax fraud deal that had nothing to do with Trump. But – if Cohen sings a song for Mueller, he just might escape jail time. So he cooks up a story against Trump and Bobby gets tingly for Cohen again. A lefty that thinks a millionaire tax cheat is wonderful. Gotta love it.

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Don Bessee

23 August 2018

Well that problem is fixed!
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Amid China talks, Trump touts new investment security powers
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The US has tightened rules that President Donald Trump says will keep American technolgy from being stolen (AFP Photo/MANDEL NGAN)
Washington (AFP) – President Donald Trump on Thursday hailed recent reforms toughening Washington’s powers to prevent foreign investments that could threaten national security or allow the theft of American technology.
Trump’s remarks on the legislation, which was enacted earlier this month and does not target specific countries, coincided with a visit by trade negotiators from China — a country he accuses of rampant industrial espionage and forced transfers of intellectual property.
“I think not enough focus has been put on China and that’s been for a long time,” Trump told reporters at the White House.
The accusations are at the center of a trade war between Washington and Beijing, which Trump launched earlier this year, and which escalated Thursday with each country hitting another $16 billion in goods with steep new tariffs.
“This weakens our economy when they steal, destroys our jobs and threatens the security of our country,” Trump said.
“We now have a right to stop it. They won’t be stealing our companies anymore, especially companies that are quite complex.”
The reforms adopted this month as part of a defense spending bill updated 30-year-old statutes giving the president broad powers to block foreign investments in sensitive industries or those deemed harmful to US national security.
– Expanded powers –
Senior administration officials told reporters Thursday that the Foreign Investment Risk Review Modernization Act was not aimed at any one country — but reiterated calls on China to end what Washington describes as predatory trade practices.
Passed with broad bipartisan support among lawmakers, the legislation expands the powers of the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS), allowing it to cover both land concessions and real estate purchases as well as minority investments in companies that could allow technology and sensitive private data to be transferred outside the United States.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/amid-china-talks-trump-touts-investment-security-powers-170642623.html
😉

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Don Bessee

23 August 2018

DOH! Always yahoo! 😉

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Marty

23 August 2018

Rebane – so Hillary isn’t a liar. Good to know your definition of liar. I’ll keep that in mind.

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Paul Emery

23 August 2018

So George you write about, and I quote, ” an assessment of what may happen in the future that doesn’t come to pass. ” you, and I quote, “do not characterize the latter assessments as lies”( See first quote.
So if Obama based his “assessment on what he thought was the truth and it turned out not to be not so than that example, being his observations on doctor availability under ObamaCare, that does not, in your view, constitute a lie.

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