[Well, psychiatrists are beginning to report running into more and more patients with Trump Anxiety Disorder (TAD). TAD seems to be particularly prevalent among those lefties who have suffered from TDS. The Hill reports on it here. I guess the human noggin' can stand only so much hate and discontent before it succumbs to a clinical condition. Should TAD sufferers still be allowed to vote? gjr]

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302 responses to “Sandbox – 29jul18”
The po’ ol’ fakenewsman asks – “What about those children stripped and stuck in cages?”
You should be asking their criminal parents why. Lets not forget that its been going on for decades. Stripped, you mean like relieved of their lice infested clothes and given a bath and a general physical?
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Paul 104pm – there is difference between ‘negate’ and ‘put in perspective’. If putting something into perspective also changes its initial characterization, then the change is appropriate.
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Scenes
Should they be sent home? Therein lies a problem. Deported parents are leaving their children behind. They are making conscious decisions to abandon their children. Many choose to turn their backs on their own children and go home without them, banking on some time in the future they can use their pawns….er….children as quasi anchor babies as a ticket to gain entrance to the US at a future date. Anchor Baby, the Sequel.
Others are using their children as a get out of jail free card. Many who come to pick up “their children” are not even the parents of the minors. They are criminals, sex traffickers, and the like. They know if they come for their children they will be arrested on the spot and deported.
Where is the outcry against the parents of the 10,000 unaccomplied minors that appear at the border (the good side of the border) wandering around waiting for Border Patrol agents to pick them up, feed, care, and educate them.
What kind of parent would give 8 and 10 year old daughters a handful of morning after pills and sent them off with human traffickers on to a destination thousands of miles away?? Many are found dead along the route. What kind of animal would do that to their own children just to able to jump in line ahead of those who are following the rules and awaiting legal entrance to put one toe on sacred US soil. I will tell you what kind of parent would do that. Low life pieces of shit. Those kind of people are not welcome here, ever.
Some things do not change. Criminals will break our laws, law abiding folks will obey our laws. A family that is deported together stays together. “Where is Mommie and Daddy?” Sorry kid, they left your ass behind and disappeared into the country somewhere….without you.
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Bessee
The parents were also lied to saying their children were going to be given a physical and cleaned up. They were then whisked away and in many cases not reunited with their parents. Kidnapping I call it.
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Go rob a bank with a kid in the car and when they take you to JAIL for breaking the law and the kid goes into the system. Half a million a year fall in that category. Don’t do the crime if you don’t want the penalties.
Why don’t you go to mexico city and demand asylum and see how that goes! You can call it a tricycle if you want but that does not change the nature of the criminal act that precipitated the separation. Its an old story that is just being recycled to the know nothings like you who only can howl the talking points for lefties.
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I see Paul Emery is now chastising Obama and his regime for stripping the screaming chillin from their adult’s arms and place in cages to rot like shark meat in Iceland.
I am shocked that Paul Emery would treat his favorite President so poorly. Next thing you know he will be asking for Obama’s brother to be imported and his auntie exported.
Trump passed a EO to stop the Obama legacy of child abuse and all Paul Emery can do is criticize him. Looks to me that Paul Emery is all about “child abuse” since Trump stopped the treatment Obama did for eight years on the munchkins. Shame on Paul Emery, you are a travesty to democracy.
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It isn’t an atrocity to separate a kid from their parent(s) who are going to adult time-out, Paul; as I said in an above post, there are a total of nearly a half million AMERICAN kids in foster care when the GOVERNMENT decides to separate kids from their parents, many of which are probably incapable of giving care to a child but many are loving parents trying their best.
The alternative being put in place for mixed family groups illegally immigrating who recite the request for asylum is a family time-out for the duration of the wait for the adjudication of the asylum claim. It will be slightly larger cages, I’m sure.
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Blast from the past.
Child detention under Obama.
https://www.azcentral.com/picture-gallery/news/politics/immigration/2014/06/18/first-glimpse-of-immigrant-children-at-holding-facility/10808687/
Child detention under Trump (from famous hard-right website, CNN)
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/14/us/inside-immigrant-children-shelter-brownsville-texas-invs/index.html
Dr. GEOTUS wins again!
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Gregory: “It will be slightly larger cages, I’m sure.”
We can call it the MAGA-box.
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@ 1:29 pm
Bravo, my man, bravo. Read a little bit, skimmed some, read some sections, and will leave this to be digested piece by piece over several days. The story encapsulates and articulates on the topic that has been discussed here like few I have read before. Thank you. Just when I thought nothing could surprise me, I am pleasantly surprise. Good find.
“Any disagreement is seen as proof of racism to be banished. Kim shares this with other intersectionalists, who think in Manichaean ways about the big issues, turning them into zero-sum battlegrounds in a war for their notion of justice. It is a fundamentally anti-academic approach …. a millennial authoritarian movement to weaponize knowledge, to advance passionately-held but often loopy notions about social justice.”
At that is not even the tip of the iceberg, nor even the tippy tip. Nor even the tippy tip of the tippy tip.
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Looks like Paul Emery has had a good smackdown for his hypocrisy here. Now on to more TDS accusations!
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Let the denials begin,,,
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/what-happens-when-a-bad-tempered-distractible-doofus-runs-an-empire
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LOL… Paul and “the children” Better set up camp outside our local CPS.( Child support services) The “rip” children from their parents on a daily basis. Yet not a peep of outrage. Their too stupid to see the diff between a child in REAL danger, or one that’s mad at the parent for confiscating a cell phone. If the parent has ANY means of income, they snag the kid, put it in foster care, and send the bill to the parents.
But bitch about the kids being taken down at the boarder. Never mind all the “endangerment” getting them there in the fist place
Abolish CPS! “they know how take care of children better than parents”.
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Yaa Dougy!!,, Things get WAY better. Things are GREAT since the affirmative action placement guy is gone. He got the job based on the color of his skin. NOT the ability to actually do the job.
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Quite a difference between robbing a bank and desperately trying to find a better home and way of life for your family Don. Even ol Hoseman Don must appreciate that.
Yes, children are separated from their parents for legal reasons but only after legal proceedings and they usually have access to visiting their children if they are in a foster situation. They are never snatched away without a legal process and it’s usually temporary at least the first time. Alsothere are attempts to place the children with other family members if possible. Are you saying the situations are similar Don?
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Todd writes
“I am shocked that Paul Emery would treat his favorite President so poorly.”
For the 100th time Todd how can Obama be my favorite President if I didn’t vote for him second time around? You are making things up because you have nothing to say.
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This could apply to Paul as well.
+———————————————————+
—OFFICIAL SNOWFLAKE COMPLAINT —–
+———————————————————+
Name: Jim Acosta
Date of Hurtfulness: __8/2/18_____ Time: __________
What caused the butthurt?
[] Patriots [] Truth Movement [X] TDS
Was a tissue needed for tears?
[X] Yes [] No
Will you be able to move past it?
[] Yes [X] No [] Not Sure
Reason for filing the Report (check all that apply):
[] I am an idiot……….. [] I’m better than everyone else.
[X] I am a crybaby……. [] I had a soy overdose.
[] I am thin-skinned… [] I despise self-reliance.
[] I am a little whiner .[] No one liked my selfies today.
[] I want my mommy.. [X] Life just isn’t fair.
[] I felt picked on……..[X] Other (please explain below):
___Trump is a meanie and called me a mean name and
I dont like him___________________________________
…………..(Use a separate sheet if necessary)
If you are under crayon and coloring book therapy and its not working,
Dial 1.800-RAINBOW
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No Paul… when you are arrested and put into a jail, if you have a child with you they WILL NOT join you in jail.
There is no adjudication… you go to the jail deemed appropriate for your gender and the kid goes to.a guv’mint run safe place out of your sight and control.
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PaulE 324pm – ICE is a LE arm of our federal govt with powers of arrest and incarceration. When they arrest an illegal alien and incarcerate him, that itself is the start of a “legal process”, and it involves separating any accompanying children from adults taken into custody. Our citizen arrestees have been so separated from their children for generations. Do you have any idea why the Left (yourself as an exemplar) always ignore this reality in this ongoing debate. Have anything to do with TDS?
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By the way Todd this should put an end to your fake news from yesterday about Gates not being a witness in Maniforts trial
“Prosecutor Greg Andres said in court Thursday that the government fully intends to call Rick Gates (pictured), who cut a plea deal earlier this year and agreed to cooperate with the prosecution of Paul Manafort.”
“”We put him on the witness list,” Andres said of Gates. “We have every intention of calling him as a witness.”
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/02/paul-manafort-trial-latest-day-3-758678
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George
Is it SOP to lie to the parents and then wisk the children away and send them thousands of miles to a place without informing the parents as to where the children are being kept and not allowing them any contact with their children, not even a phone call?
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It’s the 3D gun issue a free speech issue? The courts have already determined that transmissions in computer code is speech. Interesting, from 929.
The framers of the First Amendment neither could fathom the technological innovations of today’s world nor foresee the intricate legal questions that would result.91 Just as the introduction of prior inventions such as film and television presented novel First Amendment issues for courts to tackle, the world’s first 3-d printed gun presents similarly unique and complex issues.92 Perhaps some of the more challenging questions regarding new technological advancements and the law focus not on whether a power to regulate exists, but on whether the regulation fits within the contours of the First Amendment.93 As discussed above, this
determination will first turn on whether a CAD file qualifies as speech despite its functionality.94 If defined as speech, the speech’s particular characterization will dictate the appropriate level of judicial scrutiny that laws regulating a CAD file should receive, ultimately determining whether regulating a CAD file violates the First Amendment.95
A. A CAD File Should be Classified as Speech Under the First Amendment Because Although It Does Not Qualify as Pure Speech, It Contains Sufficient Elements of Communication.
Although expressive, a CAD file moves beyond a pure speech categorization because it relies on modern-day aspects of functionality.96
In fact, a CAD file is both expressive for its more traditional aspects of speech, the file’s blueprint design, and functional for its ability to instruct a printer to create a real, 3-d object from an online design.97 The CAD file’s functionality depends on the existence of an expressive blueprint design and, therefore, the file contains sufficient elements of communication to classify the file as a type of speech that warrants a First Amendment analysis.98
1. The Blueprint of the 3-d Printable Gun Incorporates New Technology, Creating a Modern Blueprint That No Longer Qualifies as Pure Speech Under the First Amendment.
Courts generally accept blueprints with instructional value as pure speech, meaning speech that lacks a non-speech component.99 However,…….
http://digitalcommons.wcl.american.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1648&context=jgspl
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Yes Paul,, yes it IS!!!
Funny, you didn’t bitch when “O” did it. Forget the plane loads of kids flown all over the country? Better take your memory meds.
“Word that immigrant families are being released has spread south, and the Obama administration acknowledged this week that there is a perception that families and children traveling alone are being allowed to stay in the country freely.Word that immigrant families are being released has spread south, and the Obama administration acknowledged this week that there is a perception that families and children traveling alone are being allowed to stay in the country freely. President Barack Obama’s director of domestic policy, Cecilia Munoz, said such rumors are false and that immigrants caught at the border, regardless of their age, still face ”
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/u-s-releasing-undocumented-immigrants-wont-say-many
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Paul Emery expects us to believe Obama was not his favorite President. He voted for the man. Are you daft Paul? And why are you not giving Obama the Paul Emery evil eye on his incarceration of children in cages after ripping those chillin from their parent’s arms? You are not credible at all so I suggest you move on to something you may have some knowledge about. Maybe ganja? Any way you are a liar about most of the things you post and that just breaks my heart. Also Gates was all over the news yesterday and the Prosecutors said they were NOT going to put him on the stans as he was a proven liar. If that has changed then I missed it.
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What is the criminal charge given a police officer telling a lie to someone in lawful custody to get compliance with a lawful order?
in general police are as free to tell lies as you are, Punchy, just not under oath.
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Obama didn’t put kids in cages Todd. Show me where he did.
If he was my favorite President why didn’t I vote for him second time around? You voted for Bush twice and look at the end result-total economic collapse, two endless unfunded wars and a total failure of real estate and the stock market. You’re guy Todd.
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Here is one for the po’ ol’ pollhead –
Seventy-one percent of business owners surveyed by UBS Wealth Management Americas support additional tariffs on imports from China. Eighty-eight percent said that China engages in unfair trade practices, according to the UBS Investor Watch survey.
https://www.breitbart.com/economics/2018/08/02/survey-business-owners-think-trumps-tariffs-are-awesome/
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Talk about made up fakenews by the po’ ol’ fakenewsman-
“Yes, children are separated from their parents for legal reasons but only after legal proceedings and they usually have access to visiting their children if they are in a foster situation. ”
That line of BS is not true anywhere in the country, no jurisdiction allows criminals leave to visit kids in foster care.
The adults are in a criminal adjudication and the kids are wards of the state as it has and will continue to be.
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So the snowflakes at google had a near riot/revolt over working for the US government to manage big data.
Then we have them now being enablers for the #1 enemy of the US and the most totalitarian regime on earths thought Nazis.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/6921397/google-evil-china-censored-search-engine-android/
Does that make google an existential threat to the sovereignty of the US?
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ROFLMAO
Oh Punchy is on a roll. He woke up gunning for bear. Quite entertaining on a slow news day, the calm before the next storm where millions will die!
Of the 11 places to apply for US asylum (in Mexico alone) in route to the US, all this whole separating minors from their parents can be so easily avoided if the people (who only want to provide a better life for their families) would follow the rules of our generous country and cross at a designated point of entry. But, nooo. They don’t want to do that. No sireee. No,no,no. Our laws are to be spit on by them. They are above the law, right? They want what they want and want it now. Screw everybody else, screw those wonderful immigrants who followed the law and are waiting in line. ThUnited States is a nation of laws, not of men. Apparently that is one concept illegals recoil at. They have the final say, right?
YTD, the Border Patrol has recovered 200 cadavers of illegals lying in the desert,, including bodies of children floating in the Rio Grande. So unnecessary.
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You sure ask to get fed CROW. Your going to be passing feathers for weeks at this rate.
And you got fed plenty with your brain fat on LIBS wanting to allow illegals getting to vote.
It’s MY cooking this time.
https://www.businessinsider.com/migrant-children-in-cages-2014-photos-explained-2018-5
“Detainees sleep and watch television in a holding cell where hundreds of mostly Central American immigrant children were being processed and held at the CBP Nogales Placement Center on June 18, 2014.”
“Several former Obama administration officials took to social media and news outlets last month to explain a gallery of years-old photos that showed immigrant children sleeping in shoddy conditions at a government-run holding facility in Arizona.
The images, which the Associated Press first published in 2014, resurfaced recently for reasons that remain unclear, and quickly prompted viral outrage on Twitter. One particularly disturbing image showed two children sleeping on mattresses on the floor inside what appeared to be a cage.”
I await the marginalization from “Crickets” Emery.
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My above post is answering Paul’s
“Obama didn’t put kids in cages Todd. Show me where he did.”
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This is OLD news Paul. Just what does KVMR pay you for?
Do you at least give the morning MJ report? (or any time of day for that matter) The price of throwback #1 Skunk inside the city limits of Nevada City? Dirt weed is selling for how much down at the park?
Speaking of news,, Did KVMR report on the guy with a machine gun wearing all black? ( Just kids playing war.. A new criminal offence Paul?)
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PaulE 421pm – The lamestream’s lies about only Trump putting kids in ‘cages’ are those that you and yours don’t recognize. Here’s some news for you –
https://www.businessinsider.com/photos-migrant-children-policy-under-trump-obama-2018-6
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Quote time!
Upright: “Those who can claim membership in the less privileged group have a license to retaliate against the privileged. Claiming to lack privilege confers the privilege of being excused for behaving badly.” —Nathanael Blake
Non Compos Mentis: “We have no equivalent to the dark carnival that is a trump [sic] rally. This is not a thing on the left. We just argue about healthcare and climate and sometimes relitigate 2016 but we are not actually out of our minds.” —Sen. Brian Schatz (D-HI)
Setting up Trump to blame his rhetoric for any attack…. “I’m very worried that the hostility whipped up by Trump and some in conservative media will result in somebody getting hurt. We should not treat our fellow Americans this way.” —CNN’s Jim Acosta
And last… “To reporters … complaining [about] your treatment at Trump rallies: Now [you] know what it’s like for conservatives invited [to] speak at college campuses. … I wish you were treated differently. But maybe [you] should cover college protests differently now.” —Ari Fleischer
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Was one reporter physically attacked at a Trump rally? Hmmmm? I can’t hear ya. How many did you say? My, just last week a reporter was brutally attacked while filming the Leftinistas mob smashing the Trump Star on the Hollywood Walk Of Fame. I can see why the Left went crazy. Of all the President’s in our nation’s history, only two have a star on Hollywood Blvd; Reagan and Trump. Still, no reason to attack a journalist. Who do they think they are, Melissa Click attacking a student journalist?
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/25/melissa-click-former-university-of-missouri-profes/ Lol.
All the violence comes from the Left. It’s who they are.
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Would you folks please stop saying that Paul likes Obama? Paul only voted for Barry the first time he ran for POTUS. That was when he ran on a platform of ‘no gay marriage’ and ‘balance the budget’ and ‘enforce the border laws’. Paul used to happily prance around the KVMR studios after Obama won and told anyone who would listen that only guys and gals are gonna git hitched with THIS new sheriff. He also made a point of saying how glad he was that Mexicans would now be stopped from coming in illegally. And surely this wonderful man would wave a magic wand to balance the budget as he promised.
Well – we know what happened.
It turns out that Paul had been cruelly hoodwinked. How could this happen? The man had such a nice crease in his slacks. As Biden had pointed out, he was a ‘clean’ negro. Oh, the pain! Soon, Paul found he had been lied to. The brown skinned folk flooded unabated across the border, nancy boys were deemed worthy of govt approved marriage and the debt doubled. Not only that, but the seas were still rising!
“Never again”, thought Paul. And that was the only time Paul ever voted for Obama.
Right, Paul?
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I believe I like Sarah more today than yesterday. She should gave Jim a nice can of Dr. Trump’s buttsore suave to ease the pain. Boy, he has been moping around all day with a big lower lip, whinning to any who will listen. Crocodile tears. I don’t he likes the taste of his own medicine. Sweet. Send him two cans.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wix1H_A2Ozo
It’s times like this when I wish I had my landline and ole answering machine back. I found the perfect sound track to play whenever anyone calls. It’s music to my ears.
CNN sucks, CNN sucks, CNN sucks, CNN sucks…..endless loop.
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As if we did not know this already, but it is refreshing to get a bit of daylight from the communists-
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/02/democratic-socialist-writer-levels-with-voters-want-to-end-capitalism.html
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The truth will set you free sister!
Sometimes a superstar is just a superstar. That is the case with Judge Brett Kavanaugh, who had long been considered the most qualified nominee for the Supreme Court if Republicans secured the White House. The Senate should confirm him.
I have argued 35 cases before the Supreme Court, more than any other woman. I worked in the Solicitor General’s Office for 13 years during the Clinton, Bush and Obama administrations. Because I am a liberal Democrat and feminist, I expect my friends on the left will criticize me for speaking up for Kavanaugh. But we all benefit from having smart, qualified and engaged judges on our highest court, regardless of the administration that nominates them.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/08/02/im-a-liberal-feminist-heres-why-i-support-judge-kavanaugh-219081
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Tozer at 5:13 – “Was one reporter physically attacked at a Trump rally? Hmmmm?”
Yes, unfortunately. At a Trump rally, Jim Acosta’s ego was thoroughly thrashed. Jim’s ego has a presence that is as actual as any real and physical thing. It’s enormous. Jim, of course, takes pride in his ego and its gigantic size and its overwhelming wonderfulness. All it took was a well placed pin prick to deflate the balloon and poor Jim now realized his ego was just as he is – a big bag of hot air.
What to do?
Instead of admitting that a lot of folks don’t think well of him personally, he has decided to conflate his shrunken status with the welfare of our ‘democracy’ (actually, we have a republic) and the general safety of all journalists.
What a horse’s ass.
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pAUL eMERY SAID Obama DID NOT PUT KIDS IN CAGES? dID i HEAR THAT? jEEZE, IT WAS ALL OVER THE NEWS FOR DAYS AND THERE WERE PICTURES AND ALL FROM 2014. wHO WAS THE pREZ pAUL eMERY?
Oops, cap lock.
And you voted for Obama once and then tell us you did not the second time? Who cares, you can parse your ridiculous life all you want but you put him in for the second term just like we are doing for Trump. It is your fault and you defend Obama every day here. So please, go peddle your BS elsewhere, say, to third graders.
Bush was a middle of the road President even though you and the media had BDS the whole time. I did economically well when he was the Prez. You are simply a lefty liberal whiner about anyone conservative. We had you figured as a BSer and liar from day one.
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Todd
Glad you did well economically under Bush. How about the thousands of Iraq people, men women and kids who were slaughtered during our invasion and occupation? Was iw worth it Todd? WMD’s were a phoney lie and you know it.
George
If you would have actually read the link you sent to me you would have read this:
” Trump’s administration does have a new policy to separate children from their parents
Both Favreau and Muñoz argued that the Trump administration’s policy of separating families at the border is different from the Obama administration’s handling of unaccompanied children.
“This policy is new, cruel, and unprecedented,” Favreau tweeted. “It was not an Obama policy. It was not a Bush policy. It was not a Clinton policy. That is a fact. And that is what all of us — Democrats and Republicans — should want changed as soon as humanly possible.”
The firestorm over the photos came amid ongoing backlash against the Trump administration’s recently implemented policy of criminally prosecuting people who illegally cross the border and separating them from their children .
Though the photos are nearly identical to those from 2014, there is one key difference between them: the 2014 photos showed only children who arrived at the border unaccompanied. The 2018 photos also show families that have been separated from one another. “
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George
Here is a link with detailed information about why maniforts bail was revoked. It sums things up by saying this:
She noted that she had previously warned Mr. Manafort about his conduct while on house arrest after prosecutors complained that he had broken the rules against contacts with the news media.
“I’m concerned you seem to treat these proceedings as another marketing exercise,” she said. She implied that she was running out of patience with him, saying the case “continues to be to this minute extraordinary.”
Mr. Manafort’s lawyers suggested that he had reached out innocently to his former colleagues, not knowing whether they had been contacted by Mr. Mueller’s team. But Mr. Andres said Mr. Manafort was simply deceiving the court, just as he had deceived law enforcement agencies and tax authorities over the years.
“It’s inconceivable that he did not know they were potential witnesses,” he said.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/15/us/politics/manafort-bail-revoked-jail.html
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“WMD’s were a phoney lie and you know it.”
The thousands of dead Kurds might dispute that, but unfortunately they died from a phoney lie. Not that Paul Emery gives a shit about human life. He’s far more concerned about settling scores with people he doesn’t like.
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PaulE 854pm – Not sure I understand what you’re backpedaling from. My 333pm and 502pm were very clear. And your 903pm about Manafort, what is that all about? Not sure you’re staying in the conversation.
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Paul Emery and his BDS is alive and well. Hey how about your fav Prez allowing all those deaths in Syria Paul Emery? Red Line? Real he-man that Obama who you put in office. You must be proud. All those men women and children gassed and shot and blown to bits. Good job their Paul Emery.
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LOL! Paul gets schooled on “O”‘s pound puppies. (Yes Paul! “O” caged kids!) It only matters when Trump did it. Then you run for the sand dunes in your Wayback Machine?
BTW. The vary same intelligence you on the Proggy Left say “WE MUST BELIEVE” because they say “Russia owns Trump”,, said WMD “WERE THERE!!!!” (along with EU intelligence, UK intelligence.)
But that has no meaning to the guy who thinks no war is just.
Oh.. Almost forgot.. Those “women and children” you spoke of.
Killed by their own Gov.
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More bad news for he po’ ol’ faknewsman –
Economists had expected a nonfarm payrolls gain of 190,000 and the jobless rate to tick down to 3.9 percent.
Nonfarm payroll growth for June was revised up to 248,000 from 213,000. May’s jobs were revised to 268,000 from 244,000. So what seems to have happened is that many of the jobs that were expected in July were actually created in prior months.
https://www.breitbart.com/economics/2018/08/03/nonfarmpayrolls/
😉
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“WMD’s were a phony lie and you know it.”
– Paul Emery, 2018
Of course, now the 17 intelligence agencies are the font of all truth. The Russians are the expansionist hegemony. Trump invented the MAGA-box for children. Liberals are the champions of free speech. Everything is going to hell, just look around you.
lol. Thanks God you exist, we’d have to invent you otherwise.
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“Thanks God you exist, we’d have to invent you otherwise”
That may be the quote of the summer. Saves creating a straw man. However, I don’t think Punchy is worth the time of day, all things considered. Worth “a bucket of warm spit” as our host described Paul Krugman’s opinions.
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