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Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.

George Rebane

The left-leaning Associated Press reports ‘Democratic socialism surging in the age of Trump’.  The article is a well-written, comprehensive review of what the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) are and their recent growth spurt as the Democratic Party lurches hard Left.  (We note that know-nothing local lefties are still in denial about that.)  What they are – according to the AP, other observers, and now even some dues-paying members – is socialists, plain and simple.  But even that doesn’t go far enough.

CommunistUSADSA’s paid up membership has surged from about 6K to 45K in the last year or so, and now includes in its ranks more than a handful of Democrat politicians running for office.  DSA used to be “on the fringes of the liberal movement’s farthest left flank.”  Today they are a “significant force in Democratic politics” that overwhelmingly dominates the public direction the party has taken and openly advertises as its future.   On the DSA’s website we find, and AP corroborates, that there is “little distinction” between ‘democratic socialism’ and just plain good old-fashioned ‘socialism’.  But wait, there’s more to this telling.

When you read the DSA constitution, you learn that “its members as socialists reject an economic order based on private profit and share a vision of a humane social order based on popular control of resources and production, economic planning, equitable distribution, feminism, racial equality and non-oppressive relationships.”  In short, they are really a new and improved modern day movement of communists who are temporarily hiding under the more acceptable socialist label.  When the time is ripe, they will dispense with this half-way house and co-opt the political pimple that today still calls itself the Communist Party USA (CPUSA).

The real question is how far will the Democratic Party play along with this headlong rebirth of communism via the waystation of socialism.  Many Democrats, and we all know who they are, have already thrown in their lot with the DSA, and many more Dems are standing by, nervously fingering their hats as they prepare to toss them into the DSA ring.  The times, they surely are a-changin.

The only speed-bump on the road to complete government control of everything seems to be the label ‘socialist’ that some Dems running for office fear that “people do associate (socialism) with bad things in history”.  Now if we can only hurry up and convince these inconvenient history troglodytes that socialism was really not all that bad, and that we’ll do it right this time around, then we’ll have it made in the shade.  Why?  Because our government educational system has already taught the younger generation that capitalism is bad and socialism is good, and the lamestream media is reinforcing that daily.  It’s those damn older folks who can still remember yesterday who are the problem.

You can bet the farm that the Deep State “patriots” are already all socialists since their livelihood depends on it.  The only kerfuffle slowing things down is the current lack of a definitive Democrat leadership behind which the young and stupid can join ranks.  Current Dems jockeying for position, like Schumer, Pelosi, Sanders, Warren, Biden, and Waters come across as marginal work products from some second-rate embalming school.  It’s the new cohort of the likes of Ocasio-Cortez, Kaniela Ing, Kamala Harris, etc who are the emerged and unabashed socialist face of the Democratic Party.  And the platform to which they all have signed up sees the abrogation of the Constitution and its defined voter franchise as Job One.

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98 responses to “Democratic Socialists = proto-communists”

  1. ’’’M’’’ Avatar
    ’’’M’’’

    ,,,Kamala Harris is a socialist???
    Good to know you are keeping up with your alt-right readings.

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  2. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Kamala Harris is a transsexual troll from Canada. But, yeah, she one of them.

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  3. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Kamala and Michelle Obama are really males. Barack is really a female.

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  4. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    I hope they take the tour to all the swing states!
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/democratic-socialists-gain-momentum-and-lose-their-way
    😉

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  5. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    “,,,Kamala Harris is a socialist???”
    A fair question. My guess is that she is whatever it takes to further her career, the perfect sort of California politician.
    She likely learned that philosophy under Willie Brown.

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  6. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: ’’’M’’’ | 22 July 2018 at 12:10 PM
    Oh dugski……! Still poopin and flinging I see!

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  7. Walt Avatar

    Uhmmm,,, TOO LATE!
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/07/22/james-comey-warns-democrats-dont-lose-your-minds-and-vote-for-socialists.html
    “Former FBI Director James Comey waded back into the political fray on Twitter Sunday, warning Democrats not to “rush to the socialist left” in upcoming elections.
    “Democrats, please, please don’t lose your minds,” Comey wrote. “This president and his Republican Party are counting on you to do exactly that. America’s great middle wants sensible, balanced, ethical leadership.”
    Nice try Comey, Trump LLC IS “sensible, balanced, ethical leadership.”

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  8. George Rebane Avatar

    Democrats, don’t listen to Comey! America’s great middle wants nothing to do with sensible, balanced, ethical leadership. Workers of the world, unite!
    scenes 213pm – And a fair way to judge her ideology is to watch and/or predict the way she votes on issues. My money is that she will vote as her DSA colleagues vote, and you can’t go wrong predicting her votes from the socialist perspective – i.e. she will always choose the alternatives that a socialist would choose in her position. In short, if it quacks like a duck and all that …, I rest my case.

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  9. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Such a soft ball topic lobbed ever so gently in a low arc coming in right at mid chest hight.
    “…based on popular control of resources and production, economic planning, equitable distribution…”
    Popular based on the most people or the most people with weapons?
    “…control of resources…”
    Would that include human resources? Hard to see why it wouldn’t.
    “…and non-oppressive relationships.”
    Well – I think socialists are oppressive – so, that ends that.
    C’mon, George – this isn’t the part that will be spread to the mass consumers of the MSM.
    They’re only going to hear about free stuff.
    As in – at no cost to anyone. (hat tip to Firesign Theater).
    Look – everyone is having a good time right now with OC and Bernie and there’s a big push for some of the stuff they are peddling, but in reality the Dems will put the hammer down on anyone going to far off the script. Oh, yes, yes, we’re for all of that – but let’s not push things along too fast.
    Most of this is just talk. The left plays the long game. With a Trump SCOTUS (hopefully) you won’t see any of this BS enacted into law anytime soon. Or even 10 years from now. We have SCOTUS, but the socialists have the schools.
    All we can hope for in the next ten years is that enough Americans grow up and learn the hard way that there is no free lunch and water runs down hill.

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  10. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Well, I for one am so glad they finally dropped the pretense and came out of the proverbial closet. At last. Finally we can have a debate of ideas without all this hiding and denying and spitting hairs on the term socialism. Yep, like there are 59 offshoots as they bob and weave or avoid a certain line of questioning. Sure there are, sure there are.
    Come out, come out wherever you are! Come on in, the aqua is warm. Let’s discuss, shall we?
    And now the troubling caveat. Actually two. First, the M’s and maybe the Boardman’s of the world will still chuck and jive, bob and weave, throw a handful of pixie dust in the air and disappear like a doggone magic show. Come out of. Confess you are a socialist and let’s get all this dancing around and shadow puppets show over.
    Nope, ain’t going to happen. And Punchy said clearly, but only once, he does not support open borders. Man, are they ever in a pickle. Oh, what to do. To proud to steal, to proud to beg. Sometimes we cannot put off difficult choices forever.
    How come it is the rural whites who can’t be honest and come out and say it. They are always the last in line. Sure, it’s easy when Frisco and Oakland or even Berzerkly lead the way. 7% voted for Trump in some of those darken corners. Yep, it’s easy for the urbanites to march on May Day by the hundreds with parade worthy banners, but these flatlander refugees from the concrete jungles up here have turned gun shy. Take about a bunch of pussies. Ok, not the 5 or 6 I saw on the bridge holding signs about no nukes or animals or Wall Street or Get the US out of El Salvador or whatever it was. Lettering on signs too small and I was keeping both hands on the wheel and on guard in case one of those nice old ladies with long scrafts and knitted caps decided to make some kind of political statement and jump out in front of me. It was nerve racking. Besides those few souls, the true socialist here run to FB and hide amount the comrades. Scaredy cats. What, not your cup of tea? Not enough kumbya?
    Look Nevada County Socialists, it’s easy. Line up any regular Dem and a fired up Progressive and let Hilary Hodge will pick out the socialist out every time. All you got to do is followed her lead, duh. Whether it’s Democratic Socialism or some other socialism,
    or Proud Progressive, it’s all socialism. And all socialism is Commie-lite. Capiche?
    Comey is a bold faced liar! Don’t listen to him. The Establishment is the problem.
    (The preceding was presented by a Russian bot. Full disclosure and all that. Local and applicable taxes apply.)

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  11. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Con’t….
    The 2nd caveat is they won’t have any vote on immigration or any tough choices before Election Day, period. Done for the year. except SCOTUS pick and stuff. Oh, they will spout the Party line or the OC line and shake their fists and let it rip, but they will only go as far as to being on record supporting or opposing non-binding resolutions. First you got to win the seat, then you take off the sheep costume.
    91 Dems just voted “present” on a resolution supporting ICE. And boy was there dirtdevils everywhere causied by racing to the fallout shelters when a vote was being scheduled to abolish ICE, lol. Seems no Leftist wanted to be on record on an actual bill, just waving and yelling and reading Proclamations to the air. D’s and quite a few R’s torpedoed any immigration legistaltion during silly season. They can promise the world, a better world, til the ballots are cast. But, they don’t want to be on the official voting record right now.

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  12. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    The calling into question the true genders of Harris and the Obamas was over the top; perhaps you’ve been sniffing glue or huffing paint thinner today? Something to account for your emotional intelligences to regress to elementary school playground levels.
    No, I suspect Harris is a Harrisist, as “Progressive” as opinion polling indicates is safe. Probably a Bernie Brother “Democratic socialist” under the surface.
    I may vote Kevin Leon for Senate this November over DiFi … gotta give the Progressives a push… unless there’s a straightforward Libertarian on the ballot for Senator that deserves a vote. Besides, DiFi is a shoe-in with the cockamamie California balloting… damn, that’s right, there IS ONLY a choice between Tweetledum and Tweetle-dumber. So Tweetle-dumber it will be.
    Kevin Leon, you have my vote.

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  13. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Jeeze it is called a joke.

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  14. Bill Toz Avatar
    Bill Toz

    I played it safe with going tranny. :). I am a worm. Actually, I jumped on that to shut M down dead in his tracks. It worked exactly as planned. Targeted. And it wasn’t glue. I was sniffing Benzine I stole from an old printing press shop.

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  15. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Jokes are funny, Todd. The quips regarding true gender of Harris and the Obamas weren’t.

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  16. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Waiting for our leftista buddies (you know who you are) to chime in on the OC rush. Funny how they’re not cheering the news. Maybe a little too left-wing? Hmmmm? Isn’t she just what you want? Free everything! For everyone in the world!

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  17. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    re: ScottO@9:42PM
    Well, you’d think they’d be smarter about the freebies. Student loan debt jubilee or free Deluxe Apartments in the Sky are simply paying off current backers.
    So how do you bribe Team Red? Making sure they can get jobs isn’t really sexy enough. Free Chevy Silverados?

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  18. ’’’M’’’ Avatar
    ’’’M’’’

    ,,,just as there are different varieties of apples and oranges there are hybrids of ideological thought.
    ,,,then there is political posturing for effect
    ,,,there are varying reasons people vote one way or another…The Ossified’s
    world view allows for no option to vote across the isle. In the Black or White mind if Kamala Harris votes with Bernie on something she has be a commie Red,,,but what if she votes with McConnell as she just did regarding Putin’s offer to interrogate our government officials /TILT/!!!

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  19. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    re: M@8:21AM
    Sen.Harris’ vote with McConnell is hardly breaking loose, it was 98-0. Find an instance where she significantly breaks party ranks and I’ll listen.
    Personally, I think it’s a shame. It would be interesting to see which interviewees the Russians chose. No doubt there are plenty of candidate, but I’m afraid that the nomenklatura has spoken.
    Just in terms of ‘meddling’ with elections, anyone that thinks that the US is less guilty of it than the Russians is downright naive. It’s up to us to strengthen our systems, not to assume that other states are moral in ways we are not. I’m afraid that the strong need for US security agencies to peer through keyholes will always override any national effort to improve privacy.

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  20. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    I suggest you watch a bit of the voting on CSPAN bub. The R’s cross over a lot but not the D’s. The D’s are uber-partisans and subject to loss of help from the DNC as well as threatened with a primary opponent if they don’t do as they are told. The R’s are way more lenient and understanding. So if the divide is there it is mostly the D’s.

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  21. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    from M – “but what if she votes with McConnell as she just did regarding Putin’s offer to interrogate our government officials…”
    What does that have to do with economic policy?
    Nothing.
    As was pointed out, M – Harris will always follow the moist finger in the wind.
    I notice our ‘socialist’ types won’t say anything about OC.
    C’mon, comrades – ain’t she just the ticket?
    Free stuff!!!

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  22. Bill Toz Avatar
    Bill Toz

    M, gotta side with Scenes and Scott on this one. Signing on to,House Resolutions and Proclamations that say “We think this is Good” or “We as a nation oppose that” is not voting on a bill. Yes, it takes an act of Congress to rename a post office, but you know what I mean. Apples and organs, as you would say.
    The bigger picture is not if Willy Brown’s squeezebox Ms. Harris (a woman) is a socialist at heart or not. The question is how long until your party, which has already veered hard left,…how long until it’s 50%-60% of the Dem Party that is DSA instead of the historical “true liberal” 19-23%? Is it 30% right now? How long until they take you over the cliff, Comrade Manson?
    At that point, and surely before, we will all know how socialist the lefty politicians will allow themselves to become. I will spare you the Venezuela “postcards from home” on this fine morn.

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  23. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Its not just an anecdote –
    Part of the reason for the skew, the report says, is the school’s “Strategic Plan,” which calls for a more “diverse” and “inclusive” campus. By “inclusive,” SUNY apparently means: Let almost no conservatives speak.
    SUNY-Albany is hardly unique: In 2016-17, liberal speakers outnumbered conservatives 44-4 at the University of Indiana, 30-9 at George Washington University, 9-2 at Alabama and 44-2 at Vermont, Campus Reform also found.
    And colleges don’t just favor left-wing speakers: A study last April by Brooklyn College’s Mitchell Langbert of 8,688 tenure-track professors at top liberal-arts colleges found that, of those enrolled in a political party, 10 times as many were Democrats as Republicans. Some 39 percent of the colleges had no GOPers at all.
    No wonder a 2017 Gallup poll showed 92 percent of students believe liberals can speak freely on campus but only 69 percent say that’s true for conservatives.
    https://nypost.com/2018/07/22/when-colleges-say-inclusive-what-they-really-mean-is-no-conservatives/
    😉

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  24. ’’’M’’’ Avatar
    ’’’M’’’

    ,,,scotto,,,’’’What does that have to do with economic policy? Nothing.’’’
    You are on the wrong thread,,,the title of this thread is
    Democratic Socialists = proto-communists!!!

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  25. ’’’M’’’ Avatar
    ’’’M’’’

    ,,,interesting,,,
    ‘’’A substantial number of neoconservatives were originally moderate socialists associated with the right-wing of the Socialist Party of America (SP) and its successor, Social Democrats, USA (SDUSA)’’’
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism

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  26. George Rebane Avatar

    M 108pm – accepting Wikipedia’s provenance for neo-conservatism, does not mean that current neo-conservatives have any residual socialism left in their ideology – i.e. it has transformed, see Weekly Standard. In view of this, did you have a point hiding under the historical observation?

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  27. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    M shows once again it can’t comprehend English. M was trying to show (8:21) that because Harris voted with McConnell on a non-economic issue that proved she wasn’t a ‘commie’. Sorry – that vote had nothing to do with her ideas of the govts management of our business sector.
    What M might do is review Harris’s past and current views on health care, wages and so forth.
    See – posting on George’s blog can help our left wing friends learn stuff.
    Your welcome!

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  28. ’’’M’’’ Avatar
    ’’’M’’’

    ,,,George,,, not a point, except to point out the ‘’’sketchy’’’ origins of neoconservatism.
    In short, they are really a new and improved modern day movement of moderate socialists of the Socialist Party of America who are temporarily hiding under the more acceptable conservative label.

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  29. ’’’M’’’ Avatar
    ’’’M’’’

    ,,,George,,,ol’ Bill Kristol doesn’t have much good to say about MAGAman these days

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  30. ’’’M’’’ Avatar
    ’’’M’’’

    ,,,George,,,I know you like to utter ‘’’’socialist’’’ and ‘’’communist’’’ as often as possible when referring to Democrats but if you deserve to use the term neoconservatism I will use the term neoliberalism or some other term(s) that are not dog whistles for MAGAmen.

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  31. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    M, months ago Bill Kristol said he would gleefully vote for Michele Obama if she ran against Trump. That man never had a nice thing to say about Trump. And from his POV, for good reason. Trump broke him and George Will and….Dr.Rebane’s point was you might pick up a thing or two about neocon values that are not as described in Wikipedia. Beltway boys stuff, not scary at all. Reason. No bleeding heart Liberals. Compare what one site tells you with what you eyes and feeble minds can gleam from reading another site.
    He broke me.!

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  32. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    My M, you sound like you don’t like Socialists being tarred and feathered with that Commie label one bit. Yep, that’s a bit to much to stomach. Gets ya right in the gut. Fingernails on the blackboard. Guess you left the your Berkeley days behind. Well, with folks like you, it’s a good thing the workers don’t take over the factories….or oil companies. Or those bad credit card banks who charge you exorboniate rates. The interest is just too damn high!
    Yep, I know. You only want single payer. That’s all. Remember, it begins when they start chasing people out of restaurants.
    Thank you for pointing out our flagrant hypocrisy. You done won a participation ribbon. See, you can be not a total scumbag at times. How does it feel to be human now and then? Yep, I don’t like those commie bastards one bit myself. I hear ya.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nbdnH0J6jw0

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  33. "M" Avatar
    “M”

    ,,,toes,,, labels, labels, and labels, oh my!!!

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  34. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    “M” hey just heard your pal Ortega on FOX. You remember him, the Sandinista leader of Nicaragua. He is a commie/socialist. And guess what, he tried to change the Social Security in his country and that sparked peaceful protests. Guess what he did? Sent his brownshirts out to kill them. So hey, take Ocasio-Cortez with you (she is kinda cute) and go down a set Ortega straight. He needs you worse than we do.

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  35. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Comrade Bernie’s, DeBlasio’s and all the rest of the communists paradise is batting a million now!
    https://www.bloombergquint.com/business/2018/07/23/venezuela-s-inflation-to-reach-1-million-percent-imf-forecasts
    😉

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  36. ’’’M’’’ Avatar
    ’’’M’’’

    ,,,Todd’s on a roll!!! Wassamatta for ju,,,you hittin the opiates again???

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  37. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    More on the Leftists’ new shooting star who rocks their world. No, not the lovable Aunt Maxie. The new one. The bright and bushy spark plug ordained to save the Party, Ms. O -Cortez.
    https://patriotpost.us/memes/57268-ocasio-cortez-seems-familiar

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  38. "M" Avatar
    “M”

    ,,,oh toes,,,more patriot post pubber porn,,,how quaint!!
    they forgot to include Dr. Evil in their lineup!!!
    https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/451138695274717184/i2NncpcC.jpeg

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  39. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Sorry
    Should have been here:
    So George in you’re view am I a “Proto Communist”?

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  40. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Here is one for the po’ ol’ pollhead –
    Gallup asked “What do you think is the most important problem facing the country today?” The top answer: 15 percent said “economic problems,” with the “economy in general” getting a 4 percent.
    How many people thought the “situation with Russia” was the most important? It didn’t even register 1 percent.
    The Democrats lost the last presidential election because they didn’t realize that the economy was the main issue on voters’ minds, as it always is. They are making the same mistake this year.
    And since the economic numbers coming out of Washington have been pretty impressive, the Republicans — because they control the White House and Congress — will take the credit and probably get it.
    https://nypost.com/2018/07/23/dems-are-probably-going-to-lose-more-elections-if-they-keep-it-up/
    😉

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  41. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 148pm – Didn’t know that, but I’m most interested in how you come to that conclusion – i.e. please share with us the proto-communistic tenets you hold dear to your heart, besides wanting to get your hands on the wallets of me and mine.

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