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George Rebane

Remember last winter when Mueller announced the indictment of 13 (that’s thirteen, like in one, three) Russians in his collusion investigation (more here). Remember that we discussed these indictments in the 14feb18 Sandbox (here), and concluded that there would be a snowball’s chance in hell of getting Russia to hand them over for trial.  And then remember that one of the indicted Russians decided to plead not guilty and go to trial in the US, a trial that was supposed have started a week ago (9 July 2018).  And then remember that this was a big surprise to Mueller who would have had to turn over all his evidence to the Russian defense team that he used to obtain the indictment – which evidence he either didn’t have or would have been sticky to share with the Russians.

Well, now we have forgotten all that with Mueller’s new and improved indictment of 12 Russians (that’s twelve, like in one, two) in his new and improved collusion investigation.  No one seems to remember that these new indictments mysteriously fall one short, and their issuance completely ignores the forgotten 13 indictments and the recalcitrant defendant who pled not guilty and wanted to be tried.  That the lamestream has picked up none of this is not a surprise to most of us here on RR, but the American Thinker did indeed notice and has published β€˜The Forgotten II: The Strange Case of the Missing Russians’. (H/T also to RR reader)

There must be some reasonable explanation for all this, which from my perch appears as utter bullshit – including the timing of the announcement of the latest indictments.  Perhaps our vociferous and all-knowing progressive readers can set the matter straight for us so that we can all go forward giving Mueller full faith and credit for doing something beside what President Trump has labeled a β€˜witch hunt’.

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210 responses to “The Mysteriously Magically Morphed Russian Indictments”

  1. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    PaulE@9:27AM
    Why, yes. I admit that you aren’t as horrid on the radio as you are here, but I’ll stick to my idea of sycophant vs interrogator, it would be impossible to avoid. Of course, we just see the interrogator on this blog.
    Sadly, KVMR is the strongest station I can pick up in my garage, so I get treated to a lot of Hawaiian music, silly non-traditional native American tunes, and NC City Councilwomen opining on chemtrails and the evils of WIFI.
    Probably the largest problem with local talent generally is how little they know about the things they talk about once it expands beyond the local music ‘scene’ and area politics. It’s a big world out there and takes hard work to even scratch the surface of.

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  2. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    BillT: “The Russians hacked is a whole different ball of wax.”
    I don’t doubt that the Russians got into these various systems. Judging from the papers written by civilian computer security organizations (and then picked up by the .gov as if it were original work), the exploits were mostly trivial and it’s likely that the DNC and HRC systems ended up in a similar state to that high school cheerleader who was popular with the football team.
    Wanna change the world in a good way? Take about 80% of the NSA money (and computer budgets from the other 16 agencies), and work at making US systems secure. It’s only going to get worse.
    The problem is that the Deep State (a catchy name for the entrenched bureaucracy) is far more interested in spying on it’s own citizens than in protecting them.

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  3. Paul Emery Avatar

    Trump did it again!!! Unbelievable. This guy is a total idiot
    From about a half hour ago
    “Asked on Wednesday if Russia was still targeting the United States, Trump said, “No.”
    This is contrary to the findings of his own intelligence community. This begs a question. How does he know that? Did he make a deal with Putin? why should we believe a word Putin says and does Trump believe him enough to make that statement? Where did he get the information that the Russians are no longer targeting the U.S. ?
    Obviously not from his own intel groups.

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  4. ’’’M’’’ Avatar
    ’’’M’’’

    ,,,Greg 930 – your ilk won’t admit that trumpski just colluded with Puti in Helsinki, so…

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  5. ’’’M’’’ Avatar
    ’’’M’’’

    “You have groups that are wondering why the FBI never took the server — haven’t they taken the server. Why was the FBI told to leave the office of the Democratic National Committee? I’ve been wondering that, I’ve been asking that for months and months and I’ve been tweeting it out and calling it out on social media. Where is the server? I want to know where is the server and what is the server saying?
    ,,,really trumpski, yes wacky doodle conspiracy freaks are wondering about the server,,,make for good late night what ifs,,,
    ,,,just more bullshit from POTUS!!! His chiefs of intelligence have been trying to explain it to DUFUS,,,but he owns the meathead base and Puti the election so he claims ignorance – ignorance, that I do believe!!!

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  6. Paul Emery Avatar

    Thanks for the compliment Scenes. I take great pride on my craft of being a radio journalist.

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  7. ’’’M’’’ Avatar
    ’’’M’’’

    ,,,Politifact calls BS on trumpski,,,but his base is so warm and cozy in the pile of BS they won’t say a peep!!!
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jul/16/donald-trump/missing-servers-donald-trump-vladimir-putin/

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  8. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Lets briefly look at the indictments and scandals bringing us to where we are today.
    1) Russian bots and social media ads were solved by Zuckenberg, not the FBI.
    2) The Trump Tower meeting with Russian lawyer. Obliviously a set up, but who did the set-up? The Russians do those types of things, but it turned out to be a nothingburger after the full texts of the e-mails (not the sound bites on TV from MSM) verifies no Collusion. Not solved by FBI or FICA.
    3) Fusion GPS and the Dossier: Can be tracked directly back to the Democrats. Dirty tricks, not that unusual. Solved by investigative reporting, not the FBI.
    4) Debbie Wasserman Shultz and the missing Democrat Caucus Congressional Server. Not solved by Justice or NSA. Needs separate post to get into all of it. Highlights include the House IG discovering files from 40 Dem Congressperson’s computers leaving the server, traces it back to one server, issues warning, server physically disappears within two days and another bogus server put in its place. Files accessed from Pakistan, IT guy (Awan) hired with background check waived, paid his family members 3x the rate of seasoned Congressional IT guys (none with cyperscurity experience), including one family member who worked at MacDonalds. All background checks waived.
    Dems and Shultz tried to prevent Capital Police from looking at her laptop, which was taken from her office at midnight and left in a corner phonebooth cubby with a note that said β€œAttorney-client priviledge”. Threatened Capital Police funding if they looked at laptop and not return it ASAP. When showed the laptop after demanding it’s return, Debbie denies ever seeing her laptop before even thought it was marked DWS Awan arrested at airport trying to flee country after liquidating his assets. In jail for bank fraud, missing server not solved by DOJ to this day.
    5) Hillary’s private server for her government work hacked. 30,000 missing e-mails found, all but 4 went to a forgein entity, but NOT Russia per IG report. Within the two year period following the hack. 20 CIA agents in China were either whacked or caught. Case remains unsolved by counter-intelligence.
    6) So, which one did our FBI solve? It’s in the indictments!!! Wikileaks, DC Leaks, and entity known as Guccifer 2.0. Good investigative work on its face.
    NSA/Meuller fingers 16 GRU (Russian) Intel agents, of which some are here in the USA. We get into their bank and hack into their Bit Coin Wallet (and they said it can’t be done), then hack into the VPN they set up (and they say it’s invisible) to get into Dark Web and traces it to Malaysia server where, lo and behold, is where they find Wikileaks, DC Leaks, and Guccifer. Either great detective work with new technology I am unaware of, or we were lied to when the NSA said it cannot be done. Kinda scared now that we know there is no place on Earth to hide. Nowhere.
    Anyway, of all the Trump Collusion scandals and narratives, the only one solve by our DOJ and Intell so far has been the one involving Russia. Still no collusion.

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  9. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Looking for the “compliment” Paul detected from scenes… was it this?:
    “I admit that you aren’t as horrid on the radio as you are here, but I’ll stick to my idea of sycophant vs interrogator, it would be impossible to avoid. Of course, we just see the interrogator on this blog.”
    That’s a use of the word “complement” of which I was previously unaware.

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  10. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Punchy sez
    β€œTrump did it again!!! Unbelievable. This guy is a total idiot
    From about a half hour ago
    “Asked on Wednesday if Russia was still targeting the United States, Trump said, “No.”.
    β€”β€”β€”β€”
    Hair on fire!! Read Punchy read. Read the black letters on the page, not the white space. Is Russia still targeting the USA? No. Not since Trump had his private chat with Putin. What a dufus, what an ignoramus. .
    And if you read more than soundbites, Trump all day yesterday and this morning has repeatedly said Russia AND others. And others, but I digress. We must not look there, only at the Rooskies.
    β€œIs” is present tense, is it not? Unless you want to pull a Bubba and play the game of depending on what your definition of β€œis” is, lol.
    About indictments, written before Helsinki. Too bad Trump tries to separate Russian meddling with Russian Collusion. That false charge of Collusion really gets under Trump’s skin. Nobody likes to be falsely accused. Bearing falsewitness breaks one of the Ten Commandments. Anyway, what the NYT hears and what was actually said are two different things. It must be contagious judging by our local news director.
    https://thefederalist.com/2018/07/16/trump-right-muellers-latest-indictment-proves-hes-conducting-witch-hunt/

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  11. Paul Emery Avatar

    Bill writes:
    “Is Russia still targeting the USA? No. Not since Trump had his private chat with Putin.”
    You mean since Monday Bill? How do you know that ? Did Trump make a “deal” with Putin and what was the deal.?

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  12. Paul Emery Avatar

    Sarah H is an hour late for her Press Conference. They are scrambling for sure.

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  13. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Trump is making the left fo nutty. Love it!

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  14. Paul Emery Avatar

    George write about the timing of the indictments:
    “There must be some reasonable explanation for all this, which from my perch appears as utter bullshit – including the timing of the announcement of the latest indictments. ”
    Here’s the truth in that matter-Trump was given a choice in when the indictments were to be released
    “Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein took the extraordinary step of consulting President Trump about the timing of the latest batch of criminal indictments in the special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation, Bloomberg reports. Rosenstein, who is heading the investigation at the Department of Justice, allowed Trump to choose the timing of the indictmentsβ€”before or after the Helsinki summit with Vladimir Putin. On Friday, Mueller issued indictments of 12 Russian intelligence officers for their role in the hack of DNC emails.
    The coordination would, of course, be highly improper in most circumstances, but, according to Bloomberg, Rosenstein, citing national security considerations, decided to inform the White House of the coming indictments and allow the administration to influence the timing of their release. ”
    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/07/rosenstein-reportedly-allowed-trump-to-choose-timing-of-latest-russia-indictments-due-to-national-security-considerations.html

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  15. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Punchy sez:
    β€œYou mean since Monday Bill? How do you know that ? Did Trump make a “deal” with Putin and what was the deal.?”
    Well, news director, that is secret decoder ring stuff. Sorry, can’t tell you. Did Russia hack your computer and have all of KVRM’s circuity start smoking and self destruction yet? Hmmm? Just wait a few. Happy 40 year birthday, KVMR!! Surprise, surprise
    Trump did give us Putin Cuddlers a bit of leeway for have some mischievous deplorable fun. He’s a one funny guy, a man of the people.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h0tNw4jNp28

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  16. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    I suggest that Obama and his administration should be tried for treason as he let the Russians meddle.
    Sara is kicking the lames asses right now. Love it.

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  17. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Was it something he didn’t do, like stop the Russians when he knew what they were up to in 2016?
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/07/18/george-soros-calls-obama-greatest-disappointment-says-doesnt-particularly-want-to-be-democrat.html
    πŸ˜‰

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  18. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Sarah clarified Paul Emery’s alleged interpretation of Trump’s NO this morning. She said after the babe asked the question he said No more questions. Now we see how they parse things.

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  19. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Todd @ 12:04
    Lol. I know, but refrained from jumping in and putting out the fire In Punch Drunk Rummy’s ponytail. Too funny. Everything is The Sky is Falling, hit the panic button and move to Canada.
    That boy should put his hair up in a manbun and take a chill pill or else his ticker will give out. Mass hysteria is interesting to witness, yet like all good things, it can be overdone and grow boring, if not wearisome. They seem to take a good thing and beat it into the ground over and over again until it’s dead. No moderation. Quite the disturbing self destructive phenomenon to gaze upon. Kinda creepy. Gotta feel sorry for them with their obsessive afflictions driving them to madness. But, what can we do but stand back and observe one of life’s nastier lessons. They are beyond human aide. Boy, the human business is an ugly business.
    What’s that sound I hear??? Sounds like the sound of pounding nails.
    https://m.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/1101649159985305/?type=3
    https://m.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/1102639783219576/?type=3
    https://m.facebook.com/bluecollarpatriots/photos/a.753644977992258.1073741830.632514070105350/1818742518149160/?type=3&source=48
    Man, all these indictments and Meuller stuff and hacking and dead bodies all happened under Comey and Brennan and Clapper and Susan Rice and Obama’s watch. Trump will do what he can to repair the damage he inherited. Godspeed, President Trump.

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  20. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    BillT, yeah he needs a chill pill. If you listen to the press idiots shouting their questions over each other this morning a rational person would ask, which question is he answering if he is? But of course they ran with their “made-up” BS.

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  21. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Interesting –
    Even before they decided to go on hating the president, I disliked these people because they wanted to grab up so much power and use it against the American people.”

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  22. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Hmmm not sure what happened there, must be Russian bots.
    https://news.grabien.com/story-rand-paul-slams-john-brennan-most-biased-bigoted-director-ci
    πŸ˜‰

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  23. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    I second TJ’s denunciation of Punchy’s wolf cry this morning.
    “Asked on Wednesday if Russia was still targeting the United States, Trump said, “No.”
    Dare I say it? This appears to be “fake news”. Or at least faked news.

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  24. Robert Cross Avatar
    Robert Cross

    Why did White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders claim Trump was saying β€œno” to taking more questions ― not responding to the reporter’s question about Russia. But video shows that Trump continued to take questions after appearing to answer the inquiry about Russia. Why is trump throwing all of the intelligence communities and the FBI under the bus; they all can’t be wrong? Answer: to save his own sleazy lying ass at the expense of the country. The uber wealthy owe no allegiance to any country except the one that will give them the best deal for now.

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  25. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Thanks, bobby.

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  26. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Thanks Bobbie. From the Sandbox.
    β€œHere is the meeting video from this morning. Go to the last minute or so and listen to the President. No wet dreams for democrats that I can see.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1oqIsM7x0g
    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 18 July 2018 at 12:33 PM”
    I went to the last minute as Todd instructed. Todd 1, Bobbie 0. Bobbie wins the class warfare game hands down and a participation trophy.

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  27. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    BoobieC did not watch the CSPAN coverage of this morning so he just makes it up.

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  28. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh my. I know, I know. The topic is the Meuller indictments. Sorry Dr. Rebane.
    I report, you decide. Fakenews? Could be. Time will tell.
    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1102641976552690&id=235086849974878
    Must not look this way!!! It’s a diversion!! Ok, whatever you say Leftinistas, whatever you say. It has nothing to do with Meuller indictments. Me so bad.
    https://m.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/1102640849886136/?type=3&source=48

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  29. "M" Avatar
    “M”

    ,,,scenes and toes,,,what a pair!!! pubber porn site Last American Patriot and True Pundit,,,are these trumpski approved ”’real news”’ sites???
    re: From Lisa Page article in truepundit,,,by, get this, Investigative Bureau,,, ohhh, they sound serious!!!
    “The Russians didn’t do it. The Chinese did, according to well-placed FBI sources.”
    You can take this to the bank,,,and get arrested for passing counterfeit bills!!!

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  30. "M" Avatar
    “M”

    On to more serious subjects,,,why is trumpski dissing Magically Mysterious Montenego???
    First he shoves the Prime Minister at last year’s NATO summit.
    Now that Montenegro is in NATO he continues to bash them.
    Looks like the trumpski is doing more of Putin’s bidding because, from Wiki, ”’In June 2017, Montenegro formally became a member of NATO, an eventuality that had been supported and opposed by approximately same share of the countryβ€²s population[33] and had triggered a promise of retaliatory actions on the part of Russiaβ€²s government”’
    Is this the kind of thing Puti and trumpski talk about when they are ”’alone together”’???
    http://time.com/5341790/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-montenegro-nato/
    Does trumpski want the US to dump NATO and join some sort of Russian Axis???

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  31. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Missy M
    Time will tell, M, time will tell. The IRS has been cutting checks in settlements to some of them non-profit neanderthals types. Repriations. Guess we called that one right, among others. All others. And those KIAs from N. Korea will be returned and the Wall will be built. And, of course, the VA Hospital Union prunes are up in arms that Trump easied up a tiny bit on making it less impossible to fire some worthless chair warmers…strike that, potentially fatal to some of our vets worthless and harmful soulless types. That’s a tough one to clean out. Think the Union has it tied up in Fed court. Meanwhile, behind the curtain, the Grand Wizard has erased hundreds of regulations, hundreds upon hundreds. Never sleeps I reckon. Man, he needs a nice vacation.
    We have been here many times before. Don’t know how, but Trump is going get out of this. Always does. Not that Trump didn’t get caught up and stumbled in Helsinki of all places, but Trump’s best asset is his revulsion at the special interests. the smelly handshakes, the Swamp, the media, and those in his own Party that were and are hell bent for leather to drive him from office now.. Like, when already! Chop, chop people.
    Time will tell, M, time will tell. And nothing will come out of the Summit in the months ahead, maybe, maybe not. Much ado about nuthin’, honey.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AKC8pSFg1Vw

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  32. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    “Time will tell, M, time will tell.”
    No doubt. Even if true, you’ll probably never hear about it.
    In other news:
    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/18/house-democrats-midterms-campaign-slogan-730907
    “For the people” lol. I think I’m getting a thrill up my leg.
    Hopefully these guys never try to sell soap.

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  33. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh, M. One last kiss
    And the reason all of them from the Establishment to Soros to the EU to Infinity and Beyond Washington is because nobody owns Trump, nobody. Not his advisers, not the R’s, not K Street, not the men behind the curtains doing the puppet show you watch. Nobody. You, me, we, they never had anyone that only a vow to the Constitution owns.
    Yep, he played nice and told NATO that maybe our banks or government can arrange some loans so they can buy some of that Made in the USA fine military hardware…jets, subs, you name it. He told them that they won’t want that European junk, our stuff is the best. That be Trump…….
    And to think the Left created a big hole for Trump to waltz right on in. I could say, β€œYou did not guilt that”, but that would be a lie. You guys built it and it is why it is in the White House. doing what it does.
    Keep doing what you have been doing, β€˜cept kindly kick it up a couple of notches, will ya? Tanks. Tanks a lot. Oh yeah, indictments. Yawn. Wake me up when that one is over.

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  34. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Well now this does not fit the narrative at all does it!
    Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein met with Mr. Trump last week and offered him the choice of announcing the indictments before or after his Monday summit with Mr. Putin in Helsinki, according to a report by Bloomberg. Mr. Trump chose to announce the indictments ahead of the meeting because he thought it would give him strength negotiating with Mr. Putin, the story said.
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jul/18/president-trump-chose-announce-russian-indictments/
    πŸ˜‰

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  35. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Thanks for re posting that Don. That was for those, George included that objected to the indictments being released right before the meeting with Putin.

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  36. George Rebane Avatar

    Didn’t know about the timing of the release when I “objected” (actually criticized). But now that we know Trump selected the release date, all I can say is that I hope he put that information to good use in the 1-on-1 meeting.
    It seems to me that the proof of Trump’s performance is in the subsequent behavior of Russia and the relationship that comes out of this meeting. Lesser lights think that the proof of Trump’s performance is determined entirely by the amount of snark and vitriol they are able to immediately dump on him.

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  37. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Robert Cross | 18 July 2018 at 01:17 PM
    …..thanks bobby.

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  38. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Don’t try and claim it has anything to help your delusional narratives ya po’ ol’ faknewsman. That was for you to show there is a grand game in play. Waaaay out of a po’ ol’ putin party parrots league when it comes to comprehension. Squawk goes the party parrot!
    πŸ˜‰

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  39. "M" Avatar
    “M”

    George 602,,,not sure to whom you refer but I follow the President’s example (((because we should all strive to behave in a Presidential manner))) and we know he never resorts to snark, vitriol, lying, or name calling does he??? What a hoot!!!

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  40. Paul emery Avatar
    Paul emery

    More words of wisdom From hose-man Bresee

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  41. Walt Avatar

    Now what were they saying about our intelligence folks? What they are saying about Putin and the Ruskies? Today they can do no wrong.
    BUT!!,,,,, Remember this?
    https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/07/18/mansour-if-you-think-u-s-intelligence-is-never-wrong-i-have-some-yellowcake-for-you/

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  42. fish Avatar
    fish

    George 602,,,not sure to whom you refer but I follow the President’s example (((because we should all strive to behave in a Presidential manner))) and we know he never resorts to snark, vitriol, lying, or name calling does he??? What a hoot!!!
    Yeah…..dugski is a moral exemplar…..!
    SF Mayor: ‘There’s More Feces … Than I’ve Ever Seen’
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/SF-Mayor-Theres-more-feces-on-the-sidewalks-than-Ive-ever-seen-488156431.html%3famp=y

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  43. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul emery | 18 July 2018 at 06:31 PM
    Jeez Punch….you’re starting to sound as addled as Pelosi!

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  44. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Starting @ 642 Fish. πŸ˜‰

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  45. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Has my hottie been bragging again @ 631? πŸ˜‰

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  46. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Re Bessee 7:05
    You obviously don’t have a “hottie ” or you wouldn’t, be saying that

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