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The Mysteriously Magically Morphed Russian Indictments

16 July 2018

George Rebane

Remember last winter when Mueller announced the indictment of 13 (that’s thirteen, like in one, three) Russians in his collusion investigation (more here). Remember that we discussed these indictments in the 14feb18 Sandbox (here), and concluded that there would be a snowball’s chance in hell of getting Russia to hand them over for trial. And then remember that one of the indicted Russians decided to plead not guilty and go to trial in the US, a trial that was supposed have started a week ago (9 July 2018). And then remember that this was a big surprise to Mueller who would have had to turn over all his evidence to the Russian defense team that he used to obtain the indictment – which evidence he either didn’t have or would have been sticky to share with the Russians.

Well, now we have forgotten all that with Mueller’s new and improved indictment of 12 Russians (that’s twelve, like in one, two) in his new and improved collusion investigation. No one seems to remember that these new indictments mysteriously fall one short, and their issuance completely ignores the forgotten 13 indictments and the recalcitrant defendant who pled not guilty and wanted to be tried. That the lamestream has picked up none of this is not a surprise to most of us here on RR, but the American Thinker did indeed notice and has published ‘The Forgotten II: The Strange Case of the Missing Russians’. (H/T also to RR reader)

There must be some reasonable explanation for all this, which from my perch appears as utter bullshit – including the timing of the announcement of the latest indictments. Perhaps our vociferous and all-knowing progressive readers can set the matter straight for us so that we can all go forward giving Mueller full faith and credit for doing something beside what President Trump has labeled a ‘witch hunt’.

Posted in Critical Thinking & Numeracy, Current Affairs, Our Country

210 responses to “The Mysteriously Magically Morphed Russian Indictments”

’’’M’’’

17 July 2018

@George1211,,, ‘’’’M’ (1145am), who to this day remains astonished about the real import of this issue’’’,,,
No cigar! I remain astonished at the willingness of the deniers to bail for the ol’ Hillary red herring at any moment!!!
As pubbers like to say,,,re: Hillary,,,Get over it, she lost!!!
How long has it been now since the servers had the potential to be hacked before they were taken offline,,,three years???
Where is the evidence that anything on the drives was stolen, or used to the detriment of our national security???
The only reason to play the Hillary card is to avoid the issue at hand.
trumpski plays the Hillary card hoping nobody notices he wears no clothes!!!
The Hillary perp walk y’all have been fantasizing about would only serve to highjack the constant trumpski circus antics news cycle.

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’’’M’’’

17 July 2018

,,,pubbers et al who long for a good ol’ birther or other conspiracy are going to be drawn to mysteriously morphing rooski indictments like moths to a flame because if Hillary won’t do it, maybe the magical, mysteriously morphing DEEP STATE might work in a pinch!!!
,,,trumpski also likes to use this one to help prop up his little buddy Putin!!!

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Bill Tozer

17 July 2018

Where is the proof that the Russians stole the Wikileaks e-mails? Why has the scene of the crime (the server) never been investigated by the FBI? Why hasn’t Meuller or the FBI ever bothered to question the first known person to have the DNC e-mails, one Julian Assange? why, why, why, why, why,why,why, oh why why why, why, why,why, why, why,whywhy, why ,why, why,why, why, why,why?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
How did those stolen e-mails make it to Wikileaks? Did the Russians or Pamela Anderson buy them off the Dark Web? All sorts of things were for sale there. Guccifer 2.0 even sold some stuff on the Dark Side of the Moon.
Why? Why has Julian Assange not be questioned. Why has that Russian Gal in the meeting with Jr. not ever been interviewed? She said they can interview her at any time. Why was the scene of the crime (the DNC server) never even looked at by the FBI???? Why no investigation?
Who stole the e-mails? Who? Who? Who?

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Paul Emery

17 July 2018

Did You read the indictment bill?

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George Rebane

17 July 2018

This is not a response to PaulE, because that conversation shows no promise of going anywhere. But I do want to point out that PaulE has not been able to point to a single Trump quote that substantiates his 1040am. Instead, he has gone double-lame to claim that there are just too many of them for him to single out any one. The poor man was overcome by just considering the magnitude of such an insurmountable problem.
But I do wonder, who on these pages would ever accept such a bullshit answer, itself buried in a heavy shower of new questions from him? I think this may really be the progressive debating process – answer a question with ten new ones to your counterpart, and hope the audience is too stupid to notice.

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Paul Emery

17 July 2018

So in your view George Trumps interaction with Putin was totally appropriate and was not in anyway disrespectful to Our department of justice or intelligence agencies.

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Bill Tozer

17 July 2018

(Big sigh). Yes, Pablo Punch Drunk Popinjay, I read them. And you said you read them also. But, did you gasp and understand what you read, or do you need your 30 news feeds to tell you the meaning of what you read?
A link. Kinda on topic, sorta of. From an extreme right wing rag called Salon.
“However, the president is in the historic predicament of standing on a stage next to a leader who many in the intelligence community believe, in the highest echelons, colluded with the president,” Nunberg continued. “If the president said, yes, he did it, Mueller will say Trump aided and abetted after the fact and was part of the conspiracy.”
Nunberg also defended Trump’s distrust toward the leadership of America’s intelligence community. “Frankly, why should the president trust — not the rank and file of our intelligence and FBI — but the highest echelons?” he asked. “Because no matter what this investigation — whatever the findings are, [they] are still part of the [James] Comey poisonous tree.” Nunberg says he believes leaders in law enforcement and intelligence agencies “were clearly out to get this guy out of office from the very beginning. You don’t write those memos, you don’t leak them to the press.”
Nunberg admits, however, that Trump’s remarks have muddied the issue: “The president is constitutionally incapable of differentiating between collusion and meddling.”
https://www.salon.com/2018/07/17/exclusive-former-adviser-sam-nunberg-says-trump-fell-right-into-muellers-trap-in-helsinki/

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’’’M’’’

17 July 2018

,,,toes,,,you keep forgetting that rooskies meddled in our election. Assange and Gucci-fur are not US citizens. Gucci-fur was mentioned in connection with the indictments, was he not???
,,,we have 25 rooskies indicted,,,that means a grand jury said ‘’’go for it’’’ with each one. Maybe they don’t get prosecuted,,,but Feds must have some idea these are evil doers.
Unless, of course,,, it is a DEEP STATE conspiracy!!! And we know how trumpski and the birthers love a conspiracy, especially when it takes the heat off of them!!!

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Paul Emery

17 July 2018

George once again here is the quote I included earlier.
Gregory
““President Putin just said it’s not Russia,” Trump said. “I don’t see any reason why it would be

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Don Bessee

17 July 2018

Why is it the same people who love socialism/communism the most are the most crazed when Tump is dealing with the old KGB hack? Putin said today he agreed to enforce the Israeli – Syrian 74 border deal along with the US. Trump is leading the fight to scuttle Nord stream 2 as it is now up for a full EU vote with Poland, Hungary, Austria, the Baltics etc all NO’s and England yet to say but sounding like a NO. Then we take the business away from Putin and his treasury.
Then we have the same democrat socialism/communism lovers doing this;
He’ll stay overnight in a casa particular and return to Miami Tuesday.
But Richardson’s visit is also notable given that the seat he’s seeking is currently held by Ros-Lehtinen, who staunchly opposed Obama’s rapprochement with Raul Castro’s government and favored Trump’s decision to roll back some of those changes last year — a decision announced in Little Havana. Last week, Ros-Lehtinen was among seven members of Congress who urged Trump to indict Raul Castro for the 1996 shoot-down of two Miami rescue planes flying volunteer missions to spot Cuban rafters.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article214940325.html
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/397333-ocasio-cortez-draws-ire-from-democrats-meteors-fizz-out
😉

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Don Bessee

17 July 2018

Forgot this link above, wouldn’t want to miss the po’ ol’ fakenewsman reading and weep right!
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-07-16/putin-says-agreed-with-trump-to-secure-syria-border-with-israel
😉

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Gregory

17 July 2018

Almost, Punch 453pm… it’s been cleared up.
“I don’t see any reason why it wouldn’t be” is the correct phrase.
If Lucifer himself (stipulating the existence of the Prince of Darkness) broke into the DNC server via Podesta’s failure to heed any safe computing standards, and made available files showing the outright failure of the DNC to hold to normal standards of honesty, I would read them and cite them.
If that’s “meddling” or “interfering” in our elections, I’d counter that it’s doing the jobs of the news media for them. If there was honest reporting it wouldn’t have been a factor in the first place.

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scenes

17 July 2018

Brilliant idea #5060.
In order to make sure that the Russians don’t meddle in the elections going forward, we need to really push for voter ID laws.

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Gregory

17 July 2018

Here’s a little pop quiz!
The Democratic National Committee is:
1) an arm of the US government,
2) a quasi-governmental election committee, or
3) a private corporation
The DNC and its counterparts like the RNC have an
1) integral
2) peripheral, or
3) non-existent
role in holding elections and tallying the results.
Que the Final Jeopardy! theme.

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Bill Tozer

17 July 2018

ROFLMAO. Funniest thing I read all day. I needed a good belly laugh. Check this out, deserves double quotes:
“”So in your view George Trumps interaction with Putin was totally appropriate and was not in anyway disrespectful to Our department of justice or intelligence agencies.””
Posted by: Punchy the Clown boner | 17 July 2018 at 04:35 PM
Spoken by the man who raged for years against W being a war criminal and receiving bogus intel from our lying intelligence agencies and fudging the truth. Where was the respect they deserved then? Ok, let’s all respect our fine top counter-Intelligence agent for texting that Trump supporters are ignorant hillbillies and smelly Wal-Mart shoppers, lol. He can smell then from here. Where is the deserved love and respect for Clapper and Brennan lying straight to Congress’s face? Hmmm. Or how about this one deserving our trust and respect: Rosenstein (and Punchy) telling us all that he cannot release certain information because it involves national security and might interfere with the Meuller investigation (not to mention revealing methods and means), only to find out the classified info was about Andrew McCabe buying a $70,000 table for his office. Lol.
Ok, how about the Associate Deputy Attorney General’s (4 doors down from the AG) wife working full time for Fusion GPS after the Dossier release and feeding more made up dirt to her husband, who in turn feed it straight to the FBI as intell? Hmmm. Oh, I will respect her in the morning, the check is in the mail, and the Mercedes is in the shop. Promise I will. Pinky Promise.
From Peter Strzok Congressional testimony’:
“And the suggestion that I, in some dark chamber somewhere in the FBI, would somehow cast aside all of these procedures, all of these safeguards, and somehow be able to do this is astounding to me. It simply couldn’t happen.”
“Yet Mr. Strzok conveniently omitted that these “safeguards” included the former FBI Director James Comey, the now-fired Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe, the demoted DOJ official Bruce Ohr and of course, the now-resigned FBI girlfriend-attorney Lisa Page. These people were the checks and balances to which Mr. Strzok alluded. This all suggests something rotten in the Counterintelligence Division.”
Never forget this name, dear readers. John Carlin, head of DOJ-NSA Division. Gone. Signed the FISA warrant and bailed. Former job was FBI Director Robert Meuller’s chief of staff. The DOJ-NSA is so secret that without his signature, certain high level FICA warrants cannot be processed or approved. Called the DOJ’s top lawyer in countersurvellance. Office also exempt from IG investigations. He bailed 2 weeks before the election. Signed and jumped ship. That is where Rosenstein moved the Russian 12 indictments. Yep, I will respect that guy in the morning as well.
Oh, let’s have more well deserved respect, shall we?
Mary McCord – Acting Assistant Attorney General – Acting Head of DOJ’s National Security Division (replacing John Carlin) – announced resignation on April 17, 2017 – Left on May 11, 2017. Complicit in Flynn Surveillance and surveillance of Trump Campaign.
Bruce Ohr – Associate Deputy Attorney General – demoted twice. Stripped of Associate Deputy Attorney General title on December 6, 2017. Removed as head of the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force January 8, 2018. Unofficial liaison between Fusion GPS and FBI/DOJ. Wife worked at Fusion. Long-standing ties to both Christopher Steele and Glenn Simpson/Fusion GPS.
David Laufman – DOJ National Security Division, Deputy Asst. Attorney General in charge of counterintelligence – resigned on February 7, 2018. Laufman “played a leading role in the Clinton email server and Russian hacking investigations.”
Rachel Brand – Associate Attorney General – number three official behind Deputy AG Rosenstein – resigned February 9, 2018. Takes top legal position at Walmart. Brand “played a critical role in Congress’ re-authorization” of section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.
FBI:
James Comey – FBI Director – fired May 9, 2017. Oversaw all FBI operations – including exoneration of Clinton and Trump-Russia Investigation. Reported to AG Lynch.
Peter Strzok – Deputy Assistant Director of FBI’s Counterintelligence – forced off Mueller’s team – demoted August 16, 2017 to FBI’s Human Resources. IG Horowitz discovered texts July 27, 2017. Strzok involved in all facets of Clinton exoneration. Working member of “Insurance Policy” group.
Lisa Page – FBI/DOJ Lawyer – forced off Mueller’s team – demoted August 16, 2017 to parts unknown. IG Horowitz discovered texts July 27, 2017. Working member of “Insurance Policy” group.
James Baker – FBI General Counsel – demoted and reassigned on December 20, 2017. Working member of “Insurance Policy” group. Senior-most legal counsel at FBI.
James Rybicki – Chief of Staff to FBI Director James Comey & successor Chris Wray – resigned/forced out January 23, 2018. Working member of “Insurance Policy” group.
Andrew McCabe – Deputy FBI Director – on December 23, 2017 announced retirement effective March 22, 2018. Forced to resign on January 29, 2018. Involved in all aspects. Reported to Comey.
Josh Campbell – Special Assistant to James Comey – resigned on February 2, 2018. Writes op-ed in New York Times on why he is leaving but does not disclose in op-ed that he was Special Assistant to Comey – or that he had been offered lucrative CNN job. Takes job with CNN on February 5, 2018.
Michael Kortan – FBI Asst. Director Public Affairs – resigned on February 8, 2018 – effective February 15, 2018. Kortan served as assistant director for public affairs, an influential job that controlled media access.
Bill Priestap – Assistant Director – Head of FBI Counterintelligence – Holds same position. Strzok’s boss – reported directly to McCabe.
And the ones that are still there are scary. Hairy scary, like Jim Baker.

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fish

17 July 2018

So Punch about that WSJ piece on 🇮🇶 Iraq….It appears as though you have no comment!?

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Paul Emery

17 July 2018

Gregory 5:24
I can’t believe you actually accept Trumps lame excuse about what he “really meant”. Unbelievable

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fish

17 July 2018

Posted by: ’’’M’’’ | 17 July 2018 at 03:29 PM
Sorry dugski ……if you want an ambitious, drunken, menopausal “woman” to dominate you as you mince about in a soiled didee you’re going to pay for it yourself not stick the taxpayers with the bill!

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Gregory

17 July 2018

Whether I accept it or not, Punch 605pm, it’s what the man said.
Now, how about you answer the quiz at 546pm?

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Bill Tozer

17 July 2018

Gregory, some liwould call the DNC basically a fund raising organization. But you brought up a good point.
I find it curious that the deep seated bias, dishonesty, underhanded dealings, and corruption at the DNC with its collusion with the Clinton Campaign to destroy Bernie’s campaign and its collusion with the media among its many sins does not get all those who are concerned about honestly, truthfulness, and The American Way all up in arms and demand the whole organization be burnt to the ground and rebuilt anew. Where were all the reporters seeking the truth and standing up against the backroom cigar chomping bosses pulling the strings in that wretched den of thieves known as the DNC? Where were the truth seekers? Where was the 24/7 outrage against the snake pit??

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fish

17 July 2018

Resolved Walt…..as he is unable or unwilling to respond Punch forfeits your earlier point!

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Gregory

17 July 2018

Those with the gold make the rules and for the 2016 election coronation cycle, it was Clinton’s money that was running the DNC.

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Bill Tozer

17 July 2018

A bone for Punchy
Advice: “[Vladimir] Putin knew exactly what he was doing, was always in control, and never said anything to undercut his own country [during yesterday’s confab]. In this sense, if no other, Trump should take notes from the man he refuses to criticize.” —Rich Lowry (a Nevertrumper)
Braying Jackass: “Every single day, I find myself asking: what do the Russians have on [Donald Trump] personally, financially, & politically? The answer to that question is that only thing that explains his behavior & his refusal to stand up to Putin.” — Pablo Pelosi

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Don Bessee

17 July 2018

Oh my, the haters like cockroaches don’t want the cleansing sunlight to expose their conspiracies!
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/07/17/sleeping-giants-matt-rivitz-twitter-censorship/
😉

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George Rebane

17 July 2018

Re Trump’s correction of his double negative. I’ll take the man at his word, as opposed to those who refuse to forgive any man’s malapropos, even after a public correction has been offered.
As with Obama’s red line and the Syrians’ subsequent response, I’m willing to withhold my judgment about the Trump/Putin summit until after we see Putin’s response, and not the pre-canned response of our leftwing press and Fifth Column.

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Gregory

17 July 2018

Emery?
Emery?
Emery?
Emery?
BTW the answers were both #3

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Paul Emery

17 July 2018

I agree Gregory. Both answers #3

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Gregory

17 July 2018

I am happy you agree, Paul.
So, the Russkie attack on our country was breaking into a computer network owned and operated by a private company who didn’t bother locking their front door, and they didn’t break anything going in or out.

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Paul Emery

17 July 2018

George
Would you give Hillary or Obama the same slack you gave Trump when you accepted his desperate explanation of his “grammar” error? Knowing you, I have a hard time believing you really believe that but a mans gotta do what a mans gotta do. Quite astounding actually.

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scenes

17 July 2018

As kind of a thought experiment, I was considering just what Putin will demand from Trump. Let’s say that there’s a movie, shown nightly at the Lubyanka to much hilarity, of Trump celebrating his huge Russian real estate loan with a Moscow orgy consisting of an underage ungulate, a 300 pound babushka, and the crack KVMR news team.
Possible demands? The US not invading Syria perhaps? No huge ABM system installed in Belarus? We don’t pressure the Germans to avoid buying Russian gas?
Heck, I’d give it to them for free.
It’s interesting to consider that most of what drives Russian foreign policy is the result of (probably) the largest treaty betrayal in the post-War period, the expansion of NATO after German reunification.

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Don Bessee

17 July 2018

Well at least one of the death eaters unmasked –
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/07/18/james-comey-urges-voters-to-choose-democrats-warns-that-history-has-its-eyes-on-us.html
No one should use the name of the Dark Lord of Liberal Lament Land until the solicits.
😉

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Gregory

17 July 2018

“I have a hard time believing you really believe that but a mans gotta do what a mans gotta do. Quite astounding actually.”
You are astounded by the most common of things, Paul. That someone of Trump’s caliber could, speaking extemporaneously, screw up a double negative sentence construct on the fly… well, that’s unheard of in your world.

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Bill Tozer

17 July 2018

Well, let’s see where we go from here. I’ll conclude with the strongest statements from Trump at Helsinki. The ones you will never hear from the MSM. No use getting wasting more time trying to appease the manbun freaky people on the Left.
“As president, I cannot make decisions on foreign policy in a futile effort to appease partisan critics or the media, or Democrats who want to do nothing but resist and obstruct. Constructive dialogue between the United States and Russia affords the opportunity to open new pathways toward peace and stability in our world. I would rather take a political risk in pursuit of peace than to risk peace in pursuit of politics. As president, I will always put [first] what is best for America and what is best for the American people.”
https://patriotpost.us/memes/57152-alexandria-ocasio-cortez
And once again, thank you, thank you, thank you.
https://patriotpost.us/memes/57153-fashion-upgrade
.

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Todd Juvinall

18 July 2018

Well, Trump chastised Germany for the pipeline deal with Putin. Now the press loves Merkel and she is colluding with Putin and Russia and almost becomes a vassal state. Trump wants to sell out LNG to the EU so Putin gets th shaft. If that is colluding then unicorns are alive here in Nevada County.

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scenes

18 July 2018

re: The EU and Russian gas.
The current Green Libertarian screeching about Trump claiming that Germany is captive to Russian energy supplies is absolutely hilarious. You can’t take these people seriously.
Just a while ago
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-eu/eu-warns-u-s-it-may-respond-swiftly-to-counter-new-sanctions-on-russia-idUSKBN1AB1DP
https://www.politico.eu/article/us-russia-juncker-eu-energy-commission-succeeded-in-blunting-us-sanctions-on-russia/
https://www.vox.com/2014/7/25/5936521/why-europe-wont-punish-russia-in-one-map
Hey, I’ve got an idea. Let’s load up on US ground troops in NATO and push on the Russians really hard in every way possible. The 17 intelligence agencies will get a boost in funding (although they would never ever consider ‘hacking’ Russian computers), it gets really cold in European homes, hilarity ensues.

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’’’M’’’

18 July 2018

George 930pm –
‘’’Re Trump’s correction of his double negative. I’ll take the man at his word’’’
Wow, you really can fool some of the people all of the time!!!
Here are some graphs and statistical analysis on trumpski’s lies,,,
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/analysis/2018/07/14/trump-has-said-1340330-words-as-president-theyre-getting-more-dishonest-a-star-study-shows.html

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scenes

18 July 2018

PaulE: “Would you give Hillary or Obama the same slack you gave Trump when you accepted his desperate explanation of his “grammar” error? ”
I am mostly highly amused by the way she keeps falling over. There must be something in the ground that blocks her ability to levitate using her Cthulhu powers. There’s probably a drinking game out there based on ‘Collapsing Hillary’. Given the amount of evil in that woman (spend a weekend reading Clinton biographies sometime), the US dodged a bullet here.
Obama does have that folksy way with words, though. Gotta hand it to him (or whoever wrote 99% of what he ever said).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-66xJLd6Z0
While I was never particularly mad at Obama, it’s obvious what a stuffed shirt he was. He was neither a serious thinker or a git ‘er done sort of person, just a talking head. Admittedly it was a talking head with some goals that favor the collapse of Western civilization, but he was an ineffective man so it could have been worse.
You’re lucky you didn’t vote for him the second time as it might require actually defending a position.

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fish

18 July 2018

Posted by: ’’’M’’’ | 18 July 2018 at 07:37 AM
Wow, you really can fool some of the people all of the time!!!
6 1/2 more years dugski!

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fish

18 July 2018

Posted by: scenes | 18 July 2018 at 07:48 AM
You’re lucky you didn’t vote for him the second time as it might require actually defending a position.
I think our lil Punchy is a believer in the the Scott Adams/Dilbert dictum, “Never be in the same room as a decision.”

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scenes

18 July 2018

re: Fish@7:58AM
To be fair, it might be a behavior learned from some years as a radio interviewer. You pretend to be an unbiased host, throw softballs at those you like and ‘gotcha’ questions at those you don’t. It’s rare to hear someone in that position really excel at drawing information out of a guest, the temptation to play sycophant or interrogator is just too great.

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”’M”’

18 July 2018

,,,fishy, your ilk are fast becoming a laughingstock,,,6.5 years,,,get used to it!!!

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fish

18 July 2018

Posted by: scenes | 18 July 2018 at 08:08 AM
You pretend to be an unbiased host, throw softballs at those you like and ‘gotcha’ questions at those you don’t
Yes….that does sound like our Punchy!
It’s rare to hear someone in that position really excel at drawing information out of a guest, the temptation to play sycophant or interrogator is just too great.
This too sounds familiar!

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Walt

18 July 2018

TDS sets in again!
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jul/17/jeanne-shaheen-joe-kennedy-want-trump-interpreter-/
““I’m calling for a hearing with the U.S. interpreter who was present during President Trump’s meeting with Putin to uncover what they discussed privately. This interpreter can help determine what @POTUS shared/promised Putin on our behalf,” Ms. Shaheen, New Hampshire Democrat, wrote Tuesday on Twitter.”
Where were the demands for hearings when “O” “could have more flexibility after his re-election.” ?
No,, that was fine with the Russian loving Left back then.

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fish

18 July 2018

Posted by: ”’M”’ | 18 July 2018 at 08:15 AM
,,,fishy, your ilk are fast becoming a laughingstock,,,6.5 years,,,get used to it!!!
Yeah…..because if there is one thing that worries me it’s what you 60’s retreads think about me😜!
“M”oron!

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”’M”’

18 July 2018

,,,fishy aka Trump Youth, not me, the whole world laughs at you!!!

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Bill Tozer

18 July 2018

I agree that the indictments are bull pucky. Might as well indict people in the grave yard. There will be no trial, by design. I also believe that Comey and Brennan have done more to damage the reputation of the FBI and our Intel agencies than any other persons in our nation’s history. Totally tarnished, nay, trashed the reputation and trustworthyness of our Intel and federal law enforcement agencies for decades to come.
The Russians meddled which is a no brainer. The Russians hacked is a whole different ball of wax. I cannot get over the fact that the FBI did not take the chain of custody of the DNC server considering such a monumental charge against a foreign power. Unbelievable. That really sticks out and jumps off the page, and is the crux of the topic about indictments. Absolutely an fact finding abortion led by Comey without any discernible investigative curiosity . It appears to be a purposeful sabotage of any desire to take the chain of custody of the server or even push to discover the forenstic evidence. Imagine if this was a possible murder case to find out the cause of death and not doing an autopsy.
The other thing that shakes our trust in our Intel agencies is the comments and actions by former CIA Chief Brennan. Today Brennan calling on the CIA and others to go rogue and not give the President the intelligence necessary to make informed decisions on tough calls. He is calling for the CIA to damage our country. That borders on treason, absconsion of duty and the abolishment of the chain of command, advocating to usurpt the very foundations of our Republic, becoming a law unto themselves.
Imagine Brennan and Comey and other top officials going to work everyday hating on private citizen Trump, loving on HIllary, and circulating a discredited Dossier around to thwart the election of one candidate and boost the candidacy of another candidate…who happened to pay a third party to pay Russians for unverifiable claims. Money talks and Hillary paid the Russians via Fusion GPS. Cash from HRC to the Russian sources and then turnaround and accuse the other candidate of colluding with Russians, lol.
No, the damage has been done. It will take decades to recover from what the Obama Administration’s operatives have done to demolish what faith the America people have put in our top officials who serve our nation.
Brennan will go down in history as the worse and lawless CIA Director in our history. Calling for the agents to go rogue is against the separation of powers , the Constitution, and the very foundations of our Republic. The same will be said of the fired former FBI Director.
Trump is an existential threat to The Poison Tree. It’s been a anti-Trump conspiracy at the highest levels. And yet, nobody has connected anything to Donald Trump. Liars, leakers, and liberals. Hmmm. Brennan indeed voted for a communist for President of the United States and has not changed a bit. Globalization is a multi-trillion dollar business. The indictments are small potatoes compared to the real treson doing on.
Keeps me the heebie-jeebies just thinking that Brennan was listening in to every call we made, reading every e-mail we sent, and spying on every US citizen. And he lied to Congress about it all.
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We know Peter Strzok had those missing 30,000 Hillary e-mails for a year. The 30,000 e-mails (all but four) went to a entity but NOT Russia, per what was revealed by questioning of Peter from the IG report. All but four of the 30,000 e-mails went to a foreign entity, but not Russia. The CIA though they had a mole in their midst because agents where getting whacked in China.
The Meuller investigation is necessary, albeit is bull pucky and just going through the anti-Trump motions. I would hazard to guess that Putin asked Trump about the missing servers, Hillary’s server, and Peter S. in their one in one.before appearing at the presser.

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Paul Emery

18 July 2018

Scenes
Have you ever heard any of my KVMR interviews or attended a town hall meeting that I moderated or attended an election forum in which I was a panelist?

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George Rebane

18 July 2018

BillT 925am – Mr Tozer, thank you for bringing us back on topic. For the rest, please note that I did finally get off my butt, with some help, and put out a new sandbox.

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Gregory

18 July 2018

“Today Brennan calling on the CIA and others to go rogue and not give the President the intelligence necessary to make informed decisions on tough calls. He is calling for the CIA to damage our country. That borders on treason, absconsion of duty and the abolishment of the chain of command, advocating to usurpt the very foundations of our Republic, becoming a law unto themselves.”
Toes, the word is “sedition”:
se·di·tion
səˈdiSH(ə)n
noun
conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or monarch.

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George Rebane

18 July 2018

Gregory 933am – Agreed.

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