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George Rebane

California’s collectivist calamites just keep rolling in.  The latest in the works is the Great Solar Panel Sidestep – a new government mandated, contractor supported dance that will push low cost housing, now already out of reach, even further into the land of the bureaucratically impossible.  As observed from outside our state’s borders, “California is often where bad ideas spring to life these days, and they’re worth highlighting lest they catch on in saner precincts. Consider the state Energy Commission’s decision this week to mandate solar panels on all new homes. Meanwhile, Democrats bemoan the lack of affordable housing. Hmmm, maybe there’s a connection?”

But his latest really takes the cake – you can run the numbers yourself, but here’s the back of the envelope version of the California Energy Commission's mandate for all new homes.  Start with the “average cost of a rooftop solar panel system today is $18,840, which amortized at a 5.5% interest rate over 30 years is $107 a month.”  Add to that an average of about $400 annually for government inspections, cleaning and maintaining the system, to get a total monthly cost of $140, or $1,680 annually.  The advertised benefit is $80 monthly off the already outrageous cost of California electricity, making the net negative out-of-pocket $720 annually.  An earlier smokescreen claimed that the initial cost would be recovered by such savings in 30 years.  Now the cat is out of the bag – this bamboozle costs a lot out the gate, and keeps costing forever (even if it last 30 years).  Given the low cost of energy in America, California’s solar energy only benefits leviathan and corporatism.

Meanwhile, California housing costs average between $50K-$75K per unit more than in the rest of the country, and a government specified ‘affordable housing’ unit costs an unaffordable $332K.  Building low cost housing in California is prohibited by more laws and regulations than can be counted.  This is “why hundreds of thousands of middle-class Californians are fleeing. In 2016 Arizona welcomed twice as many Californian refugees as Mexican immigrants. California’s labor force last year expanded by a mere 1% compared with 2.2% in Nevada and Arizona. Sharing a border with California is a gift that keeps on giving.”  (more here)

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58 responses to “Solar panels – the latest California calamity”

  1. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    From idiot jonnie boy – “and therefore, everyone should be tied into the grid and suck the teat of central power supply.”
    Which is the exact opposite of what I had just posted. But left wing morons can’t read. Try again, jonnie boy.
    Then he continues – “You are missing out on life if your one and only predicate is the bottom line.”
    So, please name the person that applies to and supply the quotes.
    Jonnie boy has 2 homes. One he lives in and one he lets illegal aliens live in for free. Right jonnie boy? Or do you live by the bottom line and charge rental to the folks that live in the other house?
    Once again, jonnie boy needs a little prodding to supply details.

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  2. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    jonsmith – “Yes. Every “study” will prove that centralized power supply is the most efficient and therefore, everyone should be tied into the grid and suck the teat of central power supply.”
    I don’t think that anyone would suggest that you can’t go off grid. If you want to buy batteries and a bunch of solar panels or a windmill or run a Pelton wheel off your kitchen tap, that’s fine.
    It’s just that a state mandated system of sticking solar panels on all new houses and tying those into the grid (it isn’t like they aren’t) is less efficient than having giant facilities. Plus, at this point in time, solar can’t hold a candle to hydro/nuclear/natgas for PGE. It also implies solar panels over other answers like solar-run turbines.
    I might have said this before, but my guess for any new solar panel requirement is that the state wants solar and PGE doesn’t want to pay for it. Thus, everyone building a house has to stick a wart on their roof.

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  3. L Avatar
    L

    jon @ 11:08 … not even wrong- Richard Feynman
    L

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  4. M Avatar
    M

    ,,,’’’The same morons support a government that is making everybody poor to enrich itself. Talk about stuck on stupid! It’s disgusting…’’’,,,thank you Bonnie for explaining the trumpski mindset,,,
    Coal collapsing
    Thousands of jobs lost in Ohio
    Bailout of Chinese telecom,,,theme park deal in the works???
    Diplomatic giveaway of Jerusalem embassy,,,hotel deal in the works???

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  5. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “I might have said this before, but my guess for any new solar panel requirement is that the state wants solar and PGE doesn’t want to pay for it.”
    scenes 1012pm give that man a seegar, but it’s also SoCal Edison.
    jon 820pm 14 may
    “We have A/C, an ag well, a pool and since 2011 power a Prius from the sun and have not paid for electricity since 2005. If that is stupid, please elucidate. How much have you paid in power bills over the past dozen years?”
    So, ‘jon’… you know what lying by omission is, don’t you? You purchased used PV collectors and inverters for pennies on the dollar from a fire damaged building, and used that as evidence for the viability of PV electrical generation for the masses, rubbing Walt’s nose in it.
    You did it on the cheap. Congratulations. That doesn’t say a damn thing about the efficacy, let alone the justice, in forcing anyone building a home to install similar equipment at full retail price to help solve a non-existent problem of CO2 driven catastrophic and anthropogenic global warming.

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  6. George Rebane Avatar

    M. 642am – what does “diplomatic giveaway of Jerusalem” mean anyway, besides what is this comment doing under ‘solar panels’???

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  7. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Look in the sky. It’s a bird, it’s a plane, no it’s Solar Panels.
    “The increase in oil and gas production is equal to seven times the energy output of all domestic solar and wind.”
    https://patriotpost.us/articles/56114-putting-us-energy-production-in-perspective

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  8. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Gee Bill don’t go bring facts that don’t fit the narrative. DRILL BABY, DRILL! 😉

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