310 responses to “Sandbox – 10may18”

1. 

   Bill Tozer

   17 May 2018

   Not a good idea to mess with the bug station. We are quite protective of our CA navel oranges in our Golden State. The confiscated ones are placed in the Navel Reserves….
   https://www.theunion.com/news/local-news/car-inspection-refusal-at-truckee-bug-station-leads-to-convictions/

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   Bill Tozer

   17 May 2018

   You coal cuddler, you!

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   Gregory

   17 May 2018

   Coal cuddler? Me?
   No, it’s nasty stuff… but the large CO2 footprint it leaves after burning isn’t causing a dangerous warming of the planet and that’s the reason Gwarmistas are bent on stopping it through any means they deem necessary.

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   Don Bessee

   17 May 2018

   This should go over big with a jury –
   http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/17/florida-woman-smiles-in-mugshot-after-dui-crash-that-killed-mother-officials-say.html
   😉

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   Gregory

   17 May 2018

   Nice smile. I reject the thought it means she had no remorse. Hell, she was probably still drunk when it was taken.
   Her defense att’y will probably fight to keep the mug shot out of a trial, if it goes to trial.

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   Todd Juvinall

   17 May 2018

   A new study by scientists has found the CO2 hysteria 45% overblown. I can’t recall the name but it was on the Tube last week.

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7. 

   Don Bessee

   17 May 2018

   Too late now @ 949! 😉

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8. 

   Gregory

   17 May 2018

   db 955
   If 12 people who hadn’t ever heard of OJ Simpson could be found to sit on his jury, they could find 12 who didn’t see the photo or wanted to date her as a result of the photo.
   I can’t remember the name of a GOP congresscritter who was arrested for something (campaign related?) and gave the mug shot camera a winning smile… it reallly pissed off a lot of Dems who wanted a standard mug shot depression.

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9. 

   Don Bessee

   17 May 2018

   Oj was pre facebook, twitter etc. 😉

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10. 

    Gregory

    17 May 2018

    Todd 954pm
    The paper you are probably referring to is “The impact of recent forcing and ocean heat uptake data on estimates of climate sensitivity” by Lewis and Curry. One of many.
    https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/10.1175/JCLI-D-17-0667.1

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    Gregory

    17 May 2018

    Heard on the BBC Worldservice a few moments ago, talking about some wedding that’s happening soon.
    “Make America Great Britain Again”
    Nice try. If you guys were serious it would be Make the Royal Family British again.

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    Bill Tozer

    17 May 2018

    Make Ametica Great Britain Again
    “What was the point of the Revolution if subjects of the British Crown get single payer health care and university education at a fraction of what it costs us and we are stuck with a President guilty of treason, bribery and other crimes, and a Congress unwilling to get rid of him?” —Democrat Senate candidate Richard Painter
    —————————————
    Guess we can trust the FBI on this one. We would have never seen such a statement if Hillary possesd a smidgen of remote likability and won.
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/30730/fbi-releases-pro-2nd-amendment-statement-cites-hank-berrien

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13. 

    Todd Juvinall

    18 May 2018

    “Make America Great Britain Again”
    Now that’s funny! Abd California alone has a bigger economy than GB. But hey they are our forefathers and mothers. LOL! Their royalty does keep marrying Americans. Hell Winston Churchill’s mom was American.

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    Bill Tozer

    18 May 2018

    Seattle, the lib paradise
    “If they (the City of Seattle) cannot provide a warm meal and safe bed to a five-year-old child, no one believes they will be able to make housing affordable or address opiate addiction.”
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2018/05/16/seattles-unloosed-monsters-will-kill-the-progressive-dream/#1399bf554966

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15. 

    Todd Juvinall

    18 May 2018

    Seattle is a mess. I was there last October and their homeless issues are huge. Poop everywhere and tents and crap all along the highways and beaches. Now they passed a new “employee tax” to pay for these issues. Of course, that is BS. If they had really wanted to fix these issues they would but like San Francisco, they refuse and make the law-abiding and responsible people pat more to hand to the scofflaws. The left and democrats are now using a phrase across the land to try and damage the R’s and Trump. “The budget is the moral roadmap of priorities” and it appears to me these liberals have totally failed in their own words. They run all the cities. And they have shown their people they don’t care about th homeless.

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16. 

    M

    18 May 2018

    ,,,trumpski is really working hard to solve the homeless issue,,,he wants to build more high end hotels,,,

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17. 

    Todd Juvinall

    18 May 2018

    Local issue M. And if you are an employer in Seattle those commies their will tax you just for having a business with an employee.

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    Bill Tozer

    18 May 2018

    M
    I don’t think Trump is working on the homeless issue, nor should he…ever. Fuck those low live POS.

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19. 

    M

    18 May 2018

    ,,,trumpski keeps bragging about the HISTORIC low employment rate
    sounds like BS to me,,,

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20. 

    Todd Juvinall

    18 May 2018

    Not Trump’s numbers bub. And it appears it is true. So please apologize for your lying M. Did you learn that from 007?

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21. 

    Gregory

    18 May 2018

    Emery?
    Emery?
    Emery?
    Emery?

    Well Gregory, as I (sic) Green Libertarian I believe in States rights. Phony Conservatives like you will support big government Trumping state and local control whenever it’s convenient to big business and international commerce.
    Posted by: Paul Emery | 17 May 2018 at 07:08 PM

    Paul, as a libertarian Libertarian I believe in everyone’s rights. Including coal miners in Utah trying to get their product to willing buyers even if a handful of Left Coast partisans in very low level elective office decided to throw a wrench into the transportation infrastructure to stymie efforts to use an old Army base property as a coal terminal because it was within their city limits… and they thought they could.
    I also believe in the Constitution with the Bill of Rights (the version including the 2nd).
    Justice should be blind, meaning the rich and the poor alike get a fair shake under the law, and don’t forget… corporations are people too. 😉

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22. 

    Don Bessee

    18 May 2018

    An appetizer for the po’ ol’ fakenewsmans Friday lunch –
    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 50% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Forty-nine percent (49%) disapprove.
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_may18
    😉

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23. 

    M

    18 May 2018

    ,,,trumpski likes to live in ignorance,,,and grandstand for attention,,,
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-amazon-com-trump/trump-urged-u-s-postal-service-to-double-package-rates-for-amazon-washington-post-idUSKCN1IJ2G4?il=0

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24. 

    Don Bessee

    18 May 2018

    Why does it keep blowing up in their faces?
    “Under longstanding procedures, FinCEN will limit access to certain SARs when requested by law enforcement authorities in connection with an ongoing investigation,” a FinCEN spokesperson said.
    Fox News has learned that FinCEN limits access to SARs but does not delete or remove them from the database. In such cases, users trying to view a restricted file are told that it is unavailable for viewing at that time.
    Further, BuzzFeed confirmed that Treasury Department officials restricted access to those files and did not remove them.
    This revelation undercuts the narrative that the files’ absence should have set off alarm bells — a claim that had already been initially greeted by skepticism from some experts, who noted that banks keep records of transactions anyway.
    The leaker’s future may be bleak. Bloomberg reported late Thursday that his identity is unlikely to remain secret for long.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/05/18/cohen-record-leaker-could-face-jail-as-sources-debunk-missing-file-claim.html
    😉

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25. 

    Gregory

    18 May 2018

    The latest copycat school shooting at a Texas high school… 10 dead, 10 wounded. Some explosive devices that didn’t get set off.
    The guns this time were a six shot .38 revolver and a shotgun. One description of the shotgun was sawed-off but that’s unclear. The shooter (habitually wearing a ‘duster like the Columbine shooters) is alive and has stated he didn’t intend to live through it.
    A school resource officer was wounded and is in critical condition.
    An ugly day.

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26. 

    jon smith

    18 May 2018

    scenes 8:19-
    “how the Great State of California deals with quarantined plants that are on their way to China but for the life of me can’t find any information on how commercial growers deal with it. There must be some sort of paperwork that goes with, but I haven’t run into it.”
    It’s called phytosanitary certification. Brokers across the country are licensed to inspect and sanitize (through fumigation, irradiation, chemical wash) specific ag products shipped through California. This certificate must follow the freight into, through, and out of California. Fumigation requirements of cherries from Washington or oranges from Florida means they cannot be sold as organic in California (one way to beat down the competition). California very definitely has the power to control what products pass through its ports of entry. Sorry for the big let down Gregory.

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27. 

    Gregory

    18 May 2018

    Golly Mike/mandersonation/”jon smith”… you’ve gone from a claim that “all types” of plants are banned from California to “specific ag products” are controlled.
    The issue at hand was the shipment of coal being banned by Oakland’s City Council, reversed by a Federal judge.

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28. 

    jon smith

    18 May 2018

    Gregory-
    “So… you think a state’s rights argument is sufficient to bar an inland state from accessing the coast to ship a legal product to another country?”
    The answer is yes, no matter how much you don’t agree or try to imitate a Juvinall style non-response.

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29. 

    Gregory

    18 May 2018

    The answer is that Mediterranean Fruit Flies, Glassy-winged sharpshooters and other pests large and small aren’t legal products eligible for shipment into California.
    Really, Mike… is that what you’re reduced to?

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30. 

    scenes

    18 May 2018

    re: jon smith@1:08PM /1:44PM
    That’s what I assumed, that there was a certificate (and perhaps some packaging constraints) that followed quarantined produce.
    So…you can ship evil fruit through California and send it out via Long Beach. Essentially this is what they are doing with coal in Oakland regardless of what the city council sez.
    Obviously you can grasp the difference between shipping to California and shipping through California. Why be so obtuse? Everyone agrees that there are things you can’t send to California, and that the state has a small amount of say over what ships through it in terms of paperwork (and likely for safety). Push too hard on the latter, and the feds obviously get involved. I forget what the argument is about.

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31. 

    scenes

    18 May 2018

    …so, what appears to be left is whether California can force Arizona-originated produce to meet California standards on it’s way to China.
    Reading this:
    https://www.slocounty.ca.gov/Departments/Agriculture-Weights-and-Measures/Services/Phytosanitary-Export-Certificates.aspx
    “Commodities with a destination other than California may require Phytosanitary Certification. These certificates attest that shipments of plants and plant products are free from regulated pests, and conform to other phytosanitary requirements as specified by the importing state or country.”
    What I’m seeing is that the certificate is conforming to the needs of the end user, not someone who happens to be in the way.

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32. 

    M

    18 May 2018

    ,,,check out this attention seeking trumpski buffoon that showed up at the school shooting,,,MAGA
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-shows-sight-santa-fe-150800287.html

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33. 

    Walt

    18 May 2018

    Just what is the “jon” smoking now? Coal??,, an AG product????
    It’s about time you change that bong water.
    MY GOD!!.. They let you through the fruit inspection.

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34. 

    scenes

    18 May 2018

    re: Walt@3:15PM
    I think that ‘he’ was just making the point that the Great State of California can restrict certain goods from being exported via ports. I’m still not seeing anything that says that.
    It’s probably just boredom, but it’s an interesting question to me. To what extent can a state control usage of it’s port, interstates, railroads, when they are used to merely transit the place? Ports are a special case I think since there are so few and controlled by only a small handful of governments. By definition, city governments can be even crazier than their state equivalents.
    A not dissimilar thing I ran into:
    “So. Pacific Co. v Arizona (1945) demonstrates that state laws might violate the Commerce Clause even when in-state and out-of-state commerce are treated equally. The case involved a challenge to Arizona’s law prohibiting trains from crossing the state that contained more than 70 freight cars. Southern Pacific complained that the law required them to choose between disassembling at the Arizona border larger trains, making two runs across the state, and then reassembling the trains or avoiding Arizona altogether. Arizona argued the law was a safety measure designed to minimize the risk of “slack action” accidents to which longer trains are susceptible. The Court applied a test that balanced the state’s safety interest against what it saw as the very substantial burden the law imposed on interstate commerce. The law was struck down. ”
    Given that California is so out of step with the rest of the country (aside from urban Washington/Oregon and some cities on the East Coast), I can see where trade issues will amp up over time. Not just access to ports, but the craziness of separate auto emissions laws (a huge headache for manufacturers), safety and health laws that really don’t provide either but result in the tail wagging the dog nationally, etc. The further CA retreats from sanity, the more tension there is in the system.

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35. 

    Bill Tozer

    18 May 2018

    It seems odd that the school shooters are mostly all school age teenagers on psych drugs and some dumbshits want to lower the voting age to 16, ROFLMAO. Like, they make good choices. Liberalism is a mental disorder.

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36. 

    Walt

    18 May 2018

    Scenes,, just the “jon” being a jon.
    As for the latest school shooting,, the gun grabbers really don’t know what to do. A shotgun and a revolver. No evil AR!!!
    A few words about it on the news,, and that was it. No 12hr coverage as when an AR is used. No politicians in foot chases to microphones
    demanding those “common sense” gun bans. ( well, none that I have seen.)

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    jon smith

    18 May 2018

    scenes-
    You might find this useful:
    http://agnetwest.com/federal-prevent-local-regulation-agriculture/
    California can and does intercept non compliant ag products at it’s borders. It’s a tough sell suggesting that California open its ports to any and all such products if it is illegal to transport it into the state in the first place. It has been successfully argued (and being argued again) that these actions are not infringing on commerce clause but are enacted under health and safety.
    “The 10th Amendment is the cornerstone of constitutional federalism. States and local governments have used this authority to enact laws that protect our citizens from a wide array of threats including invasive pests, livestock diseases, while maintaining quality standards for agricultural products and ensuring food safety.”

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38. 

    Gregory

    18 May 2018

    “It’s a tough sell suggesting that California open its ports to any and all such products if it is illegal to transport it into the state in the first place.”
    -‘jon’ 407pm
    It’s a tough sell applying that straw man argument to coal being denied transport facilities for international shipment by a partisan local city council.

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39. 

    Walt

    18 May 2018

    “jon’s” comprehension of shipping regs is even more suckyer than that of volcanoes. Is the action in Hawaii just typical activity jonboy? Now go show your stuff and put it out.

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    jon smith

    18 May 2018

    Gregory, do you see the word coal in your question? Neither do I. You are sounding more like Todd every day. Quit while you’re behind so you don’t fall even further behind.
    “So… you think a state’s rights argument is sufficient to bar an inland state from accessing the coast to ship a legal product to another country?”
    -Gregory

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41. 

    Gregory

    18 May 2018

    Context, ‘jon’/mandersonation, context.
    BTW, you’re experienced with web site development, maybe you can help this company get their webserver up and running:
    clientworks.com
    They’ve had the “under construction” flag up for awhile.

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42. 

    Walt

    18 May 2018

    This plan should go over well when the Commie Pinko comes up for re-election.
    https://www.nraila.org/articles/20180511/anti-gun-democrat-proposes-banning-semi-autos-and-going-after-resisters
    “Anti-gun Congressman Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.) last week advocated for legislation to ban an as-yet undetermined class of semi-automatic firearms and to “go after resisters” who refuse to relinquish their lawfully-acquired firearms.”
    ” anyone who refused to relinquish their formerly lawful property was to be treated as an armed criminal, with all the physical jeopardy and legal consequences that entails. ”
    One thing is sure, Trump would never sign any Bill of the sort.
    This is why a Proggy Commie should NEVER be elected.. Not even as dog catcher.

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43. 

    Walt

    18 May 2018

    Well I’ll be damned……
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/18/glenn-beck-blames-media-vote-for-trump/
    And when Trump was running, Beck called Trump the Antichrist.
    About Time Glenn sees the truth.

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44. 

    jon smith

    18 May 2018

    The Greedy Old People couldn’t pass their own farm bill.
    And that old coot Smethers couldn’t even bother to fact check his own ballot bio. Obviously not cut out for a leadership role in Nevada County. Fortunately we do have two competent sheriffs in the running.
    Troubling times in LOP, Alta Sierra, Wildwood, and Geezerville.

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45. 

    Bill Tozer

    18 May 2018

    More Hillary news. Warning: eye glazing over time. Ctuaaly, it’s old news, but it will all come out in the wash.
    http://thefederalist.com/2018/04/24/bombshell-fec-records-indicate-hillary-campaign-illegally-laundered-84-million/

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46. 

    scenes

    18 May 2018

    jonsmith@4:07
    From the article:
    “A bill introduced by a member of Congress seeks to prevent state and local regulation of agriculture by prohibiting any additional restrictions placed on agriculture and food production when a product is sold in other states.”
    Once again, this is just referring to goods actually sold into the state, not merely transiting the state to somewhere else.
    I’d love to see an article or case where a state wasn’t allowed to send something through California to a port for overseas shipment. It wouldn’t surprise me, since the law is ragged on the edges, but I can’t find anything like that.
    Given how rare ports are on the west coast, perhaps they should be sawed off as national property, like a military base, and a fixed set of roads/RR lines assigned to them. The opportunities for mayhem by stupid city councils is too high I think.

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47. 

    Scott Obermuller

    18 May 2018

    Another 10 dead – at last count. Predictable and preventable. But it’s more fun to just rant against the NRA and the Republicans. So that’s what will happen until the folks stop sending their kids to schools that don’t do what’s necessary to stop armed persons from coming onto school grounds. We protect all sorts of govt and public facilities – why not schools?

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48. 

    Don Bessee

    18 May 2018

    @528 – While a volunteer staffer not doing a good proof read is one thing the real issue for the Foster campaign is that it is unlawful;
    It is unlawful for a person, with intent to mislead, deceive, or defraud, to commit an act of political cyberfraud. Cal. Elec. Code sec. 18320(b).
    “Political cyberfraud” means a knowing and willful act concerning a political Web site that is committed with the intent to deny a person the opportunity to register a domain name for a political Web site.
    Political cyberfraud includes intentionally preventing the use of a domain name for a political Web site by registering and holding the domain name or by reselling it to another with the intent of preventing its use, or both. Cal. Elec. Code sec. 18320(c)(1)(D).
    There is a credit card tied to the domain buy, no where to hide for Fosters campaign manager. 😉

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49. 

    scenes

    18 May 2018

    An interesting variant on interstate commerce occurred to me.
    For the sake of argument, let’s say you have two states where marijuana is legal. Load up a car with a trunk full of vacuum packed bags to travel between, speeding ticket in Utah, drug dog, busted, big felony.
    Does that violate some sort of interstate commerce concept?

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50. 

    Don Bessee

    18 May 2018

    @528 This was posted over at Todd’s –
    According to Foster’s FPPC reports during the period of 1/1/18 through 4/21/18, his campaign spent as follows:
    GoDaddy $47.90
    GoDaddy $59.88
    GoDaddy $119.76

    That’s a lot of domain names to purchase it seems.

    I have to agree and wonder how many had other peoples names???? 😉

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