[We kinda skipped over the initiative to let California's illegal aliens hold seats on state boards and commissions. And none of the Left have answered the concern about what will become of America if everyone who presents themselves at our border, and declares that their own country is not fit to live in, is granted asylum. And this especially since they will be standing in either Canada or Mexico, neither of which threatens them harm. The Left's position is understandable – 'who cares, let 'em in because that will speed up the fundamental transformation of America.' Did you note that none of the Dem governor candidates would even consider this in their promotion of open borders? gjr]
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310 responses to “Sandbox – 10may18”
,,,N. Korea says denuclearization is off the table…
,,,oh dear,,,
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Leftist news going what they do best. They are such cute unaccompanied minors…especially their animals.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/05/16/dems-media-outraged-after-trump-calls-ms-13-gang-members-animals/
You know, now this tweet makes sense.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1317155891751778/?type=3&theater
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Gregory@12:36AM
“Hey, great news, everybody! Coal ships will be sailing from Oakland in the near future as the City of Oakland lost in court.”
Oh great, so now the Green Libertarians can determine what is acceptable to run through a port. It’s not dissimilar to youtube I guess, if one political party owns access to a hub of some sort, their craziness can be inflicted on everybody. It’s kind of immoral, but clever.
Your listed article hits all the buttons of course:
‘“Oaklanders understand that a coal export terminal will have horrific impacts on the health and safety, indeed the very lives, of West Oakland residents, particularly children, who are disproportionately African American and other people of color,” Oakland City Attorney Barbara Parker told Mother Jones in an email in January. ‘
Perhaps it would be easier to have one of our local Green Police come up with a list of acceptable items for shipping through a blue state. It would be simpler for everyone.
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re: BillT@7:22AM
They might be animals, but they’re Democratic animals by golly.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2996809/ms-13-members-tortured-teen-killed-woman-sacrifice/
Any vote in a storm.
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,,,port neutrality!!!
,,,same song,,,second verse,,,reminds me of the nuke trains,,,explosives trains protests,,,remember Roseville???
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx_UATGP2Qk
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“explosives trains protests,,,”
I doubt that Roseville has enough “children, who are disproportionately African American and other people of color,” for anyone to care anymore.
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Common Core math a problem? Call 9/11.
4:27 p.m. — A caller from the 300 block of Pleasant Street reported a father in the apartment harassing his 7-year-old son about homework. Contact was made with the father of the child who was attempting to teach his son common core math. The child was fine and math was postponed pending teacher assistance.
Teacher assistance? Now that is a contradiction in terms.
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“Oh great, so now the Green Libertarians can determine what is acceptable to run through a port.”
-scenes 726am
You got that exactly backwards; the federal suit was filed to open Oakland’s port facility to coal after warmistas banned the shipment of coal.
The coal won.
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Nothing to see here, moving on. It’s what lamestream media does consistently.
“A Hamas official on Wednesday acknowledged that 50 of the 62 Palestinians reported killed during Gaza border riots on Monday and Tuesday were members of the Islamist terrorist group, bringing the total number of known members of terror groups among the fatalities up to 53,” reported The Times of Israel Wednesday.
In an interview with Palestinian Baladna, a news outlet there, Bardawil gave the “official” tally. “In the last rounds of confrontations, if 62 people were martyred, Fifty of the martyrs were Hamas and 12 from the people,” he said. “I am giving you an official figure. 50 of the martyrs in the recent battle were from Hamas.”
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nicholas-fondacaro/2018/05/17/nets-move-israel-after-hamas-claims-50-dead-theirs
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re: Gregory@8:57AM
I was just thinking about ports generally. It had never occurred to me that local governments would apply their own political bias to an international port that happens to be nearby.
I wonder if Oakland International Airport is allowed to air freight firearms.
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re: BillT@8:58AM
Good shootin’.
It does change the story somewhat. From panicked Jewish Nazi soldiers shooting at innocent civilians rushing an illegal border fence to somebody calling off shots with a target in mind.
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Graduation gun girl speaks:
http://i.magaimg.net/img/3bfu.jpg
A bit more on the bad hombres at the DNC/FBI cabal.
http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/17/halper-trump-page-papadopoulos/
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States rights Scenes. Why not? That’s a good conservative position.
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“States rights Scenes. Why not? That’s a good conservative position.”
Posted by: Punchy | 17 May 2018 at 01:58 PM
In Oceana, maybe, not the USA. The Oakland City Council does not have the authority to regulate interstate or international trade.
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I wonder if Paul Emery knows what “States rights” means.
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“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, “it means what I choose it to mean – neither more nor less.”
“The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean different things.”
So many out-of-the-way things had happened lately, that Alice began to think that very few things indeed were really impossible
Paul was just throwing punches.
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I thought coal was dead. In my wandering days, once had a dump truck of coal delivered. Baby, it was cold outside, but I had a wide shovel to make quick work of the task before me. That was before I moved to a place with an oil furnace. Kinda smelly, not like coal.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-coal-exports/coal-firms-plead-to-courts-trump-for-west-coast-export-terminals-idUSKBN1FJ0KB
And now to ‘splain it all……
https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/1051838908299664/?type=3&theater
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This bears repeating, and the ‘designated reader’ didn’t report it.
Pelline, in a banter between him and a college roommate who tripped into his blog, made mention he was “semi-retired”.
I wonder if the advertisers in his glossy pennysaver realize that?
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Ode to the love affair of McCain and his popinjays:
……led to a nasty showdown in South Carolina. Bush won, McCain lost, and some in the press came away with the impression that Bush had smeared McCain. On the other hand, some Republicans came away with the impression that McCain, who styled himself a “maverick,” would go out of his way to irritate his party.
Meanwhile, McCain cultivated a relationship with the media that was so close he sometimes referred to them as “my base.” McCain knew that many press types admired him because of his fondness for sticking it to the GOP. “Loving McCain was a way of expressing a negative opinion about the Republican Party,” longtime campaign adviser Mike Murphy said of the press in an interview with The Washington Post in 2006.
https://patriotpost.us/opinion/55979-on-the-mccain-controversy
You know, it’s been like 6 months since McCain has shown up to work. WTF? Party boy Johnnie ain’t coming back to work. He don’t get a free friggin paycheck, no matter who he thinks he is. Asswipe will keep drawing a salary till the end of his term if he keeps breathing and won’t show,up,to,work for months to come. That is a disgrace and a fraud on the American taxpayer.
Party boy should just have a bit of dignity, step aside, let the Governor appoint somebody who will show up to work, and go ride horses and spend time with your adult children and grandkids. Maybe make amends to your first family who Party Boy abandoned when wifie-Pooh became disabled as he ran after a USC cheerleader whose daddy happened to be a beer distributor and was worth a hundred million.
Relax John, take a deep breath. Kick back, and let somelse take over, earn their paycheck, and get the hell off the pot. Oh, thank you for your service. And yes, you believe strongly that America must be the policeman of the world because America is the only one that can be The Policeman of the World, you open borders crackhead.
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Gregory: “The Oakland City Council does not have the authority to regulate interstate or international trade.”
No doubt. It’s pretty much a pure play in what falls under the federal gubmints control.
Evidently immigration law is under the control of the California legislature, at least for now.
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What, no mea culpa? No week or two of explaining the meaning? There is something about Sarah.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-use-animals-describe-ms-13-gang-members-wasnt-strong-enough-white-house-says-185118738.html
Scenes, the comments surprised even me. Rather blunt. Guess they have a point.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/2018/05/17/troy-cile-precetaj-deported-albania/619066002/
These comments as well seem to be of one voice. Strange.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/2018/05/17/latinos-michigan-immigration-agents-racially-profile-buses-trains/575401002/
Boy, at least the dialogue is out in the open.
https://thinkprogress.org/youtube-says-taking-down-georgia-gop-candidates-deportation-bus-ad-was-the-wrong-call-ebcb15eaeeb9/
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The MS-13 deal is super smart politics. We now officially have the anti MS-13 party vs. the pro MS-13 party. It’s probably a stronger position to take than being pro- and anti- ISIS.
Gotta love the WH doubling down. You almost might believe that Trump dangled a line in the water and the fish went for it.
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Yup, Oakland found out they can’t pick and choose what gets shipped.
Seattle will be next to get that news. They have the same ban in place.
A little thing called interstate commerce takes precedence over
ECO horse shit.
Ya, Paul,,, “state’s rights”. Coal producing states have a right to ship their product out of the country.
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I see the Proggys are pro MS13. (MEX terrorists) All because Trump has them in his cross hairs.
Keep making those great choices.
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Random.
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From the Socialist Democrat Files: “I think [government regulation of executive pay] is a very good idea, and I think we should start talking about it.” —Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN), deputy chair of the DNC
2)
We’re at the point where Hamas are freedom fighters and the NRA is a terrorist organization.” —Twitter satirist @hale_razor
3)
http://babylonbee.com/news/hamas-terrorist-at-gaza-border-surprised-to-hear-media-describe-him-as-peaceful-protester/
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Sometimes I have to read the current news to understand the pic. Yep, Nikki walked out when the Muslims started clucking like a bunch of hens. There is something about Nikki.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1317202565080444/?type=3&theater
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‘Stop saying mean things about Hamas and MS-13’ is an interesting political position for a major party to take. ——@davidharsanyi
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re: Walt@5:41PM
It’s always fun to see how the Green Libertarian websites deal with this kind of thing.
A while back, there was a big ICE roundup of MS-13 folks. One of the entries on democratic underground sez:
“Probably the worst crime they’ve ever committed is painting graffiti. This is nothing more than a show for tRumps rascist base, arrest a few hundred brown children all the while colluding with the Russian mafia.”
That strikes me as a typical response. You know, these people really are crazy.
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Don’t tell some local lefty pols because they will just want to throw more money at the problem –
Royal says the property owner confronted the suspects, who left and did not return, with the Sheriff’s Department staking out the place. But he says Grass Valley Police detained them for trespassing, at Brunswick and Idaho-Maryland Roads. Stolen items, including the prosthetic arm, were found in their car…
https://knco.com/three-squatters-arrested-for-thefts-in-nevada-county/
“including the prosthetic arm”. Now that is some lower than whale shit scum bag action. 😉
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So… you think a state’s rights argument is sufficient to bar an inland state from accessing the coast to ship a legal product to another country? And that a local City Council can make the determination?
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I think he does. He forgets about the rule of “farm to market” that has been part of America since the early days.
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A simple graphic concerning the high jinks in Israel.
https://imgur.com/wsTJ24E
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Awww, the Putin – Emperor Xi honeymoon is over –
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-5740277/As-Rosnefts-Vietnam-unit-drills-disputed-area-South-China-Sea-Beijing-issues-warning.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
😉
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Gregory-
“you think a state’s rights argument is sufficient to bar an inland state from accessing the coast to ship a legal product to another country?”
Absolutely. All types of agricultural products are not allowed into California (ever driven through an ag inspection station?). What makes you believe a shipping container of out of state cherries, citrus, or pecans would be allowed to sit in the ports of Stockton or Oakland awaiting to be loaded up and exported?
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Crossfire Hurricane.
Like the Justice Department and the FBI, the paper is banking on Russia to muddy the waters. Obviously, Russia was trying to meddle in the election, mainly through cyber-espionage — hacking. There would, then, have been nothing inappropriate about the FBI’s opening up a counterintelligence investigation against Russia. Indeed, it would have been irresponsible not to do so. That’s what counterintelligence powers are for.
But opening up a counterintelligence investigation against Russia is not the same thing as opening up a counterintelligence investigation against the Trump campaign.
The media-Democrat complex has tried from the start to conflate these two things. That explains the desperation to convince the public that Putin wanted Trump to win. It explains the stress on contacts, no matter how slight, between Trump campaign figures and Russians. They are trying to fill a gaping void they hope you don’t notice: Even if Putin did want Trump to win, and even if Trump-campaign advisers did have contacts with Kremlin-tied figures, there is no evidence of participation by the Trump campaign in Russia’s espionage.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/crossfire-hurricane-new-york-times-report-buries-lede/
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“jon” 617pm
That’s a silly argument: “All types of agricultural products” are not banned from California.
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Haspel in.
http://www.oann.com/full-senate-confirms-haspel-as-next-cia-director/
Guess some are not to happy with having a Woman head up the CIA.
https://splinternews.com/no-seriously-fuck-the-democrats-who-voted-to-confirm-g-1826119984
For my Libertarian acquaintance (not the Green Libertarian types) who likes Mitch for some odd reason.
https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/1051835261633362/?type=3&theater
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Gregory @ 647 – That’s not an argument but a glaring display of ignorance of how the real world works. How does he think all that bulk farm product get to the EU or China, star trek transporters? What a maroon! 😉
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Here is some edumacatin for the ‘jon’ –
According to just-released data, Oakland ag export volume totaled 375,727 20-foot containers in 2017. That was up from 263,218 containers just four years ago. The port said that California producers accounted for 55 percent of Oakland farm shipments last year. Japan, China and South Korea were the top-three export destinations.
The port tracks agricultural shipments closely since export cargo accounts for half of its total volume. Oakland is considered a principal U.S. gateway to overseas markets for two reasons:
It’s the last U.S. stop for ships heading back to Asia. That makes it the shortest route to the world’s fastest-growing markets.
Oakland is the closest port for producers in California’s Central, Napa and Salinas valleys.
http://www.scmr.com/article/port_of_oakland_ag_exports_are_up_42.7_percent_last_four_years_but_will_tha
😉
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Well Gregory, as I Green Libertarian I believe in States rights. Phony Conservatives like you will support big government Trumping state and local control whenever it’s convenient to big business and international commerce.
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The agriculture quarantine thing is an interesting question to me and not a bad point to make by Mr. Jon.
I honestly don’t know how they deal with transiting California with produce and couldn’t find anything on the CA .gov websites about it. Not allowed? (unlikely), sealed containers?.
It would be cool if all states on RR or interstate hubs cooked up their own ‘rules’ which didn’t allow a whole host of goods to pass through. The taxing opportunities for permits are endless.
This makes me wonder how the Free States deal with shipping through California with deadly objects like 11 round centerfire magazines. No doubt it’s on page 105,010 of some California rule book, but I haven’t found it yet.
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re: Paul Emery@7:08PM
lol. You aren’t even trying at this point. Your trolling skills are deteriorating.
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Paul, I’ve never self identified as a conservative, and conservatives here will attest to that fact and before the California Marijuana laws were put into place, I’m unclear on your positions on state’s rights. When did you first discover them, Paul?
I have self identified Libertarian since the Carter years in the White House and am comfortable with the positions I have taken here, including this particular thing where the Oakland City Council have taken the position they can shut down the terminal by retroactively applying their rule on coal to ship coal and similar products to Asia. They’ve had their head handed to them by the judge in the case.
The developer of the terminal is an old friend of Jerry Brown… go figure.
There is no “Green Libertarian” party. There are Greens and there are Libertarians, and outside of supporting the growing mota trade in California, I’m unclear what about state’s rights or the Libertarian Party that attracts you.
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Well, well, well. Suddenly the Commerce Clause is a bad thang? The Lefties have loved the Commerce Clause soo much for soooo long. In fact, they were quite smug and confident that Obama’s wonderful Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act would be Constitutional, hands down, due to the Hily Commerce Clause. Now, not so happy? Odd.
Well, well, well, what have we here? She looks like she needs a man and needs one bad. Oh baby, show me the green. Hubba hubba.
http://abc7.com/politics/assemblywoman-cristina-garcia-cleared-of-groping-allegations/3488838/
You know, I would take them more seriously if they were out marching for equality in auto insurance rates.
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scenes 717pm
While there are interesting asides to make about agricultural products, claiming all types of agricultural products are banned from California, based on his being stopped coming home from Burning Man by the agricultural inspection station isn’t one of them.
Go to the market… there are fresh fruits and veggies coming from around the globe to be sold here not to mention other states. Even the dreaded cherries from OR and apples from WA.
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Amen brother!
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/05/17/ms-13-donald-trump-gang-violence-animals-immigrants-media-column/621537002/
😉
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Hmmm, more about state’s rights…
Paul, did you applaud Arizona’s loss in Federal Court over their application of standing immigration law, passed by Congress and signed into law at the time by the President, irrespective of Obama Administration directives? You know, Arizona was arresting illegal aliens and the Obama Administration told them to cut it out?
My recollection is the same folks applauding California’s independence from Federal immigration law were applauding AZ losing just a few years ago. Hypocrisy? Situational ethics?
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re: Gregory@8:01PM
Oh, I agree with you. As a practical matter, only states that actually grow a particular plant would care about where the plant was from (aside from human health issues of course).
I spent a few minutes looking to see how the Great State of California deals with quarantined plants that are on their way to China but for the life of me can’t find any information on how commercial growers deal with it. There must be some sort of paperwork that goes with, but I haven’t run into it.
It’s a good point that dealings with the inspection station give you a meaningless insight into the professional shipping biz.
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Peruvian avocados all winter and it’s closer to Canadian blueberry time.
Coal, dirty and dusty thangs. Guess it depends who owns the port. A city, a state, or, like LA, China? Oregon stopped coal from being exported from the Great State of Ore-Gun. The coal fields in Utah and Wyoming and a couple other places got hurt the most when it got banned in 2012-2014. Send it down the Columbia River all the way tthrough Portland and out to sea.. Straight shot to Asia. But noo.
If a facility has to be built, I suppose the city or state or EPA could refuse to issue a permit to build the darn thing that will poison our children and make every kid living near the harbor die…or worse.
The Chinese said four years ago if coal exports are blocked in WA, Ore., or Oakland, bring it to Long Beach! They are open for business after buying up our ports. Ok. No wonder the Oracle of Omaha bought up railcars…and tracks….and railcar manufacturers.
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Scenes @ 819- that’s because it is not a state issue, its federal regs that cover it all. 😉
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Come on back, Paul. Justify the “phony conservative” albatross you thought you could hang around my neck without challenge.
I’m not a conservative Paul. I’ve never used the label and the only ones who have sought to label me such have been of the far left “progressive” persuasion who can’t tell the difference between liberarian and conservative thought. That you also can’t tell the difference leads me to suspect your “green libertarianism” is thin and based on situational ethics.
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Wonder where they ship uranium to?
At least Nevada City has a proclamation that it don’t want no nuke juice being transported down 20/49 through the Sierra Berzerly. A statement ban, if you will. Lab vans with x-rays exempted.
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