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305 responses to “Sandbox – 27apr18”

  1. Paul Emery Avatar

    Todd, who describes himself as a “connoisseur of women and their brains and emotions” also says “Trump is a rich stud”. So Todd admires Trumps pussy grabbing by applauding Trump as being a “Stud”.

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  2. George Boardman Avatar

    Trump lied about paying off Stormy Daniels? Another example of why Mueller’s questions are a perjury trap. Trump is a congenital liar.

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  3. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    Lying comes so natural and so easily, these people really can’t separate truth from fiction. When Trump gets cross examined in a court room, he will slit his own throat without even knowing it. The likes of Todd will go down in flames defending all fourteen versions of Trump’s stories. Juvinall is Trump’s wet dream when it comes to needing a stooge for cut off man.

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  4. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Todd, I suspect “jon” is about 60 years old. He may imagine himself to be younger “at heart” and the “jon smith” persona may have been created as a perpetual thirty-something, but Michael P. Anderson, the person I believe is fisting the jon smith sockpuppet, looks at least 60 in person and that fits his claimed work history.

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  5. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “Everybody in politics lies, but they [the Clintons] do it with such ease it’s troubling”
    -David Geffen, FOB, FOH
    I never heard anything from Trump that told me he absolutely knew nothing about Stormy D. getting paid to go away. If you think you did, “jon”, show us a quote.
    Did he want people to wander away with the thought he knew absolutely nothing about Stormy D. getting paid? That’s another question. Is she a petty extortionist? That’s yet another question.

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  6. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    In honor of May being Mental Health Awareness Month, the Coalition for Nevada County Youth, partnering with Community Recovery Resources, are bringing to the community this FREE Recovery and Wellness Series on the important topic of “ Marijuana & Mental Health”- presented by Nevada County Public Health Officer Dr. Ken Cutler.
    Learn about:
    The history on cannabis use in the U.S., and why our knowledge of it is somewhat “underdeveloped.”
    Known therapeutic effects, promising therapeutic avenues, and known concerns like cannabis and psychosis.
    Dr. Ken Cutler will also discuss reasons to be cautious, and focus on youth use prevention and consequences.
    Join us for an important discussion on “Marijuana & Mental Health”, facilitated at the CoRR Campus, 180 Sierra College Drive Grass Valley CA 95945
    RSVP to: Serenity Madison (530) 273-9541 ext. 217, sjolley@corr.us
    SPACE IS LIMITED
    Tell your family!
    😉

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  7. Paul Emery Avatar

    For Gregory
    Asked why his lawyer, Michael Cohen, paid the money if the allegations were untrue, Trump told reporters on Air Force One, “You’ll have to ask Michael Cohen. Michael’s my attorney.”
    Asked if he knew about the payment to Daniels, Trump said “No.”
    Asked if he knew where the money came from to pay Daniels, Trump told reporters, “No, I don’t know.”
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-daniels/trump-says-he-did-not-know-about-130000-payment-to-stormy-daniels-idUSKCN1HC2SN

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  8. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    Gregory 10:33-
    “I never heard anything from Trump that told me he absolutely knew nothing about Stormy D. getting paid to go away. If you think you did, “jon”, show us a quote.”
    “Fossorial” to live in a cave or underground.
    January 12, 2018: Cohen Denies Affair on Trump’s Behalf
    Cohen issued his own statement, saying, “President Trump once again vehemently denies any such occurrence as has Ms. Daniels.”
    “This is now the second time that you are raising outlandish allegations against my client,” he added, addressing the Journal. “You have attempted to perpetuate this false narrative for over a year; a narrative that has been consistently denied by all parties since at least 2011.”

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  9. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    That’s not Trump’s words, “jon”. A Trump quote, please, not a quote from his lawyer.

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  10. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Oh Paul Emery, always putting words in others mouths. Where did I ever write a thing about pussy grabbing? And it is a two way street bub. I have been in public venues where a gal grabbed my privates. So I get why you may dislike that as it has never happened to you.

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  11. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Funny how democrats and their politicians have made lying about every little thing OK and they now are shocked a Trump may be fibbing. You cannot make this stuff up.
    Gregory, I think you are right that jonnie is MA. Sounds like his writings. And he thinks he is on a high horse and better than others. A liberal snooty position.
    Paul Emery cracks me up. I bet he has never fibbed, right Paul?

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  12. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    Gregory 10:49-
    President Donald Trump said Thursday that he did not know about the $130,000 in “hush money” that his personal lawyer Michael Cohen paid to porn actress Stormy Daniels.
    Trump replied “no” when asked if he had had knowledge about the payment to Daniels. A reporter then asked if he knew why Cohen made the payment.

    Keep digging Gregory. If you need another shovel. I’m sure Walt has one you can use.
    https://www.vox.com/2018/4/5/17203936/trump-stormy-daniels-porn-actress-payment-michael-cohen

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  13. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    Gregory-
    (to paraphrase Nixon’s attorney John Mitchell) No defense? No problem. Deflect.
    Bbbbut what about the Clintons???
    Squeal “Everybody in politics lies, but they [the Clintons] do it with such ease it’s troubling”
    How did that work out for Tricky Dick??

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  14. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Trump put money in the Cohen trust account for him. Nothing illegal and it is totally plausible that Trump did not know where the money from the trust went.

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  15. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Punchy 1040am
    “Asked why” “Asked if he knew”
    Those are weasel words that you assumed were truthful representations of the questions asked.
    Much ado about one romp in very used hay.

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  16. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “jon’/Michael P. Anderson 1110am
    So, this rises to a comparison with Watergate?
    Really?
    A one time hush money payment for a romp with a porn actress in his hotel room ten years before the election, compared with covering up a burglary of a Democratic Party headquarters by agents of the Committee to Reelect the President?
    Really?

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  17. Paul Emery Avatar

    Todd
    Trumps name was on the contract.

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  18. Paul Emery Avatar

    Todd
    You were bragging about Trump being a Stud like you admired him. Trump is a confessed pussy grabber. Geez you’re dense.

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  19. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Punchy 1202pm
    You know “Trump” was on the contract? I had heard neither “Trump” nor “Stormy Daniels” stage or legal names were on the contract, which does not seem to have been followed by Ms. Daniels despite taking the money and trying to run without too much excess bouncing.

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  20. Paul Emery Avatar

    So Gregory you are saying that Cohen drew up the contract, paid $130,000 to Stormy in Trumps behalf and Trump didn’t know about it?

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  21. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery you are making things up again. Tell us Paul Emery, do you agree that police officers can lie to a perp in a interrogation?
    And yes Trump is a stud and a billionaire and is the focus of many women who might be gold diggers. I know you are jealous.

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  22. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Got a copy of the contract we can see Paul Emery?

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  23. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    May as well try to catch the wind Gregory (and Todd). Your credibility is going down with the ship. Even rats are smarter than that.

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  24. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “Jon”/mandersonation
    You’re the one elevating this to a Watergate level.
    I find it plausible Cohen made the “problem” go away out of the monthly retainer he was paid and didn’t bother the client, who was kinda busy at the time Stormy was itching for some cash.

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  25. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    Gregory-
    Huh??? Cohen?? The guy who said he had to mortgage his house to pay for Stormy’s silence? Which one of his stories do you believe? The latest one or the most convenient at the moment.
    Now Rudy has his K-Y stained fingers all over it. As they say, too many cooks spoil the broth, and in this case too many lawyers have cooked Trump’s goose. Sounds like they let a dozen roosters into a hen house, all of them are in it for themselves, and none of them can remember why they are there, much less work in concert on a cohesive strategy.

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  26. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Gregory
    Here’s a copy of the original contract with Trump and Stormy
    http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/stormy-daniels-sues-trump-redacted.pdf

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  27. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Cool, it appears she is in breach and owes Trump about 20 million bucks for that. Excellent.
    Jonnie, sorry but you are the one without creds at all. You are as believable as a emotional 12 year old girl tossed off the cheer squad.

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  28. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Gregory, you are right! I don’t see Trump’s name!

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  29. Paul emery Avatar
    Paul emery

    The top says Trump’s name redacted. This is a copy of the original contract. Are you saying his name was not there ?

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  30. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Btw the link I included in my 137pm has a publicity photo of Stormy in early 2007 … she cleaned up nicely in those days.

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  31. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Only the pseudonym Daniel Davidson / DD appears on the contract, Paul.

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  32. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery can see under the black redactions? WOW! You should go on the stage.

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  33. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Paul Emery once a’gin posts a link he didn’t read first.

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  34. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    That is why no one I know trusts anyone from the “news” biz. All fabricators and liars.

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  35. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    Gregory@1:46PM
    A 2009 shot.
    https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/politics/Politico-Porn-Stars–52082182.html
    She is what we call a ‘piece of work’.

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  36. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    A good idea.
    “On the grounds of People’s Park, UC Berkeley proposes housing for students and the homeless”
    http://www.latimes.com/local/education/la-me-uc-berkeley-peoples-park-20180503-htmlstory.html
    Some Stormy police report.
    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/stormy-relationship?page=4

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  37. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Ooops the fakenews did it again, NBC had to walk back false report that Trumps lawyers phone was tapped. Don’t they ever learn ya po’ ol’ fakenewsman?
    😉

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  38. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Israel has pulled back the hammer and handed the trigger to Netanyahu and the Defense minister –
    The law reduces the approval required to go to war from the full Cabinet to half of the much smaller security Cabinet under most circumstances. But a provision was added late in the process to give that authority to the prime minister and defense minister in “extreme circumstances.”
    “The last-minute addition giving authority under extreme circumstances to the prime minister and defense minister on their own appears to be out of order,” said Yehuda Ben Meir, head of the national security and public opinion project at the Institute for National Security Studies at Tel Aviv University. “It is not appropriate to Israel’s constitutional system of government.”
    http://nationalpost.com/news/world/netanyahu-and-his-defence-minister-given-the-unilateral-power-to-take-israel-to-war
    😉

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  39. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    DonB@3:11PM
    https://twitter.com/Tom_Winter/status/992153502062469126
    “Correction: Earlier today NBC News, and this reporter, said that Michael Cohen’s phone lines were wiretapped. 3 Senior U.S. Officials now dispute that, saying the monitoring was limited to a log of calls (pen register) not a wiretap of Cohen’s lines. We will continue to report.”
    Too funny. So basically we have a cabal of coastal media conglomerates who make up any old thing as long as it can result in the downfall of Trump, stay-behind operatives left by the Clinton/Obama/Clinton Whitehouse in order to bring down Trump, and a whole boatload of people who believe anything as long as it meets their needs. Mostly this is manufactured outrage about things that aren’t even illegal.
    You know, the Green Libertarians could stand to do a bit of slow breathing, take a year off, and spend the time actually doing a bit of research on things that are well documented. If you could just present decent history books in the same gotcha format as The Daily Kos, Drudge Report, or The Young Turks (this last has an absolutely hilarious name given the background of the phrase), maybe a bit of knowledge might get shoveled in.

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  41. Paul Emery Avatar

    Gregory
    Your ignorance is astounding in this matter. I expect that from Todd. You are saying that Trumps name was not on the agreement. Do you still stand by that?

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  42. Paul Emery Avatar

    Gregory
    This is common knowledge
    “Clifford’s lawsuit includes a copy of the hush agreement as well as a side letter. The hush agreement notably refers to both Trump and Clifford by aliases – David Dennison and Peggy Peterson, respectively – though the side letter identifies them both by their real names. Both documents feature the signatures of Clifford and Cohen, though both boast a blank where “David Dennison” was supposed to sign. “

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  43. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery you truly are ignorant and a embarrassment to fake journalism. Show us where Trump’s name is on the document. When something is redacted the issuer does not then place the redacted info on the document. Now do you understand? Or are you that dumb?

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  44. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Trump’s aliases? On a legal binding contract? Sorry Paul Emery, I would suggest that is BS and if you say it is then produce a law that says so.

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  45. Walt Avatar

    A Ca. Progressive and his “common sense” gun control.
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/03/eric-swalwell-gun-control-platform/
    What non of our Proggys had the balls to admit too.

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  46. Walt Avatar

    ““Instead, we should ban possession of military-style semiautomatic assault weapons, we should buy back such weapons from all who choose to abide by the law, and we should criminally prosecute any who choose to defy it by keeping their weapons.”
    But the state defies FED laws. JAIL the bastards!

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  47. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Good. They never should let that scum roll down the victim’s street in a million years, dead or alive.
    Tensions were high as the group stood their ground to prevent the hearse carrying Henry Vincent’s body from passing by the home of Richard Osborn-Brooks, the 78-year-old who killed Vincent after Vincent and another man broke into the senior’s home April 4.
    More good news.
    A memorial for Vincent — a career criminal who’d been busted for scamming elderly citizens out of cash — set up outside the septuagenarian’s home has been repeatedly desecrated.
    https://nypost.com/2018/05/03/neighbors-stop-dead-career-criminals-hearse-from-passing-by/
    Dead men are not repeat offenders.

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  48. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Well, maybe Hillary is getting closer to the truth. I always felt she was not left enough for the socialists or the Democrat Party.
    Excuse #887: “It’s hard to know, but if you’re in the Iowa caucuses and 41% of Democrats are socialists, or self-described socialists, and I’m asked, ‘Are you a capitalist?’ and I say, ‘Yes, but with appropriate regulation and appropriate accountability,’ you know, that probably gets lost in the ‘Oh my gosh, she’s a capitalist.’” —Hillary Clinton now blaming her “capitalist” sensibilities for her 2016 loss
    Yep, ideology is what we expect from “journalists” covering news. Whatever happened to ‘who, what, when, why, and to what extent?’
    “The [Washington] Post has changed now. … It’s not as exciting a paper as it was, but it’s definitely not ideological anymore.” —MSNBC’s Chris Matthew

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