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[All those vilifying President Trump should read the latest essay by historian and commentator Victor Davis Hanson on a whole new look at the role of this president in our life and times (here).  gjr]

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244 responses to “Sandbox – 22apr18”

  1. Russ Avatar
    Russ

    VDH’s insight is often spot on, it is rare that I disagree with the Professor.

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  2. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    It’s all just evidence of the immune system of the West kicking in. There was no guarantee of tasteful methods.

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  3. Archie Avatar
    Archie

    A lot of talk lately about how Trump is singlehandly de-nuking N. Korea. Kim Jong-un has only been in power for 5-6 years. This may be the first time Jong-un has dipped his toe into diplomacy with the West.
    Un says he will close a nuke site. Maybe it is this one,
    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/10/31/200-feared-dead-after-tunnel-collapses-at-north-korean-nuclear-test-site-japanese-tv-claims.html

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  4. Paul Emery Avatar

    George
    this is what I’ve been saying all along, Trump is a short timer.
    I agree with By Victor Davis Hanson wjhen he writes:
    “Trump could not cease tweeting, not cease his rallies, not cease his feuding, and not cease his nonstop motion and unbridled speech if he wished to. It is his brand, and such overbearing made Trump, for good or evil, what he is — and will likely eventually banish him from establishment Washington, whether after or during his elected term. His raucousness can be managed, perhaps mitigated for a time — thus the effective tenure of his sober cabinet choices and his chief of staff, the ex–Marine general, no-nonsense John Kelly — but not eliminated. His blunt views cannot really thrive, and indeed can scarcely survive, in the nuance, complexity, and ambiguity of Washington.”

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  5. Russ Avatar
    Russ

    Paul @ 10:59 I will start worrying when there are empty seats in the rally stadiums. It was the deplorable people that put him in power and it will be the same people that removed him if necessary. Watch the rally turnout.

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  6. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Seems like the loony left has a daily “gotcha” om Trump. Nothing is working except the mindless hate of these liberals. Cracks me up. Trump at 50%.

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  7. Walt Avatar

    Paul can’t even cut and paste right today.
    So much for the same “people” saying Trump would bow out before the election.. That turned out SO well…..

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  8. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1059am – VDH did not say Trump is a short-timer. But he did make the case that Trump is most likely a tragic hero (he definitely is not a Repub or maybe even a conservative), there to clean things up, make some changes, piss off a lot of people in the process, and then ride off into the sunset with everyone agreeing that when his work was done he should go because he did not fit in – i.e. the swamp will re-establish itself. But then again, maybe not everything will revert, and Americans will have the memory of what a renegade will do when it needs to be done. Of course, the Left will do all it can to bury that memory – a task they relish and have already started – ‘Party first, and country only if it doesn’t hurt the agenda.’

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  9. Marillyn Lock-Heed Avatar
    Marillyn Lock-Heed

    ,,,nope,,,nope,,,nope,,,you are imagining things if you think trumpski is draining the swamp, or anything but his bank account paying legal fees.
    trumpski is not John Wayne,,,Shane,,,Roy Rogers or any other hero of the West. In fact, he rarely spends time in the West.
    the Republican controlled Congress has moved forward on various issues,,,no thanks to Cowboy Trump except as a figurehead
    trumpski is the swamp monster that needs to be flushed!!!

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  10. Walt Avatar

    Give it a rest Dougy. You have been on the wrong side of right from day one. Why change now.

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  11. Walt Avatar

    For the science people,, Russ should like this.
    https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanoes/kilauea/monitoring_webcams.html
    Kilauea is boiling over again.
    Things are changing on the island.

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  12. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    re: Antifa adventures in Georgia.
    ““We were peacefully protesting, yet they put guns in our faces and told us to take our masks off,” Jeremy Ortega, 19, told the Journal-Constitution.”
    lol. There’s just so much wrong with that sentence.

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  13. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    Want some lead with your waffles?
    “Suspect disarmed while reloading.”
    What could be a better argument for limited capacity magazines??
    Ooooh but what about Hillary? Arm the waitresses! Harden all waffle shops!! Weeeeee!

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  14. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    Walt 11:49.
    I am a staunch island changing denialist. Follow the real science dude. It is a normal course of events. Always has been, always will be.

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  15. Marillyn Lock-Heed Avatar
    Marillyn Lock-Heed

    waffle house walt,,,another nutter with an AR,,, the first choice of wackadoodles everywhere!!!

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  16. Marillyn Lock-Heed Avatar
    Marillyn Lock-Heed

    walt thinks a kilauea eruption is news!!!
    how do you think those islands got there???!!!

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  17. Walt Avatar

    Actually, it’s significant news for those who pay attention.
    But I don’t expect a Nev. Co. Proggy to have that much smarts on the subject. Now go back to your regularly scheduled dope smoking, and
    attempts to remove AK57s from the masses.

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  18. Walt Avatar

    On the national front there is more bad news for the Proggy,,LOW unemployment.
    http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/384414-14-states-hit-record-low-unemployment
    No,,, YOU didn’t do that. Trump did. And you plan on winning elections? Yes… Stump on raising taxes, reinstating massive regs,
    All guns that can shoot more than one bullet a minute will be confiscated., and mandatory housing of the homeless and illegals by every household. Yup,, go with that.

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  19. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    Large-Capacity Magazines and the Casualty Counts in Mass Shootings
    The Plausibility of Linkages
    http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1525107116674926
    re: Walt@12:57PM
    It’s them AK57 banana clips I tell ya’.
    Of course, we can always defer to that most charming of modern popular musics:
    I use to tote a .38 up in my crack days
    I tote that AK-47 in my rap days
    I use to tote a .38
    I tote that AK-47 in my rap days
    I use to tote a .38 up in my crack days
    I tote that Ak-47

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  20. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    You stumped the dummy here Walt. Please educate us Nevada County Progees why a volcano on island thousands of miles away doing vocano things is significant news but rapidly shrinking glaciers around the globe isn’t?
    Did your mommy ever tell you the story about how the baby acorn grew into a great big tree?

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  21. Walt Avatar

    Thanks Mzzzzz. “jon” for proving my point.
    Glaciers? The ones that are supposed to be gone by now?(according to your own “experts”) LOL!!! You make it SO much more fun when you supply the ammo.
    OH… Ya… Snow was to be a thing of the past too.. How’s that work’n for ya’?
    As for Hawaii,, that was to be uninhabitable by now because the heat would be so bad.( You do realize it’s near the equator,, where it’s heats up the fastest.)
    But we had record lows all over the place.. OOOpppssss,,,, AGW causes AGC ( Anthropological global cooling.. So matter what happens you can claim to be right.)
    As the song goes,, “Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition”.
    This should REALLY twist ya’ off.
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/04/23/epa-cutting-down-trees-for-power-is-carbon-neutral/

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  22. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Business
    Trump’s revenge: U.S. oil floods Europe, hurting OPEC and Russia
    By Olga Yagova and Libby George,Reuters 7 hours ago
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    Trump’s revenge: U.S. oil floods Europe, hurting OPEC and Russia
    MOSCOW/LONDON (Reuters) – As OPEC’s efforts to balance the oil market bear fruit, U.S. producers are reaping the benefits – and flooding Europe with a record amount of crude.
    Russia paired with the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries last year in cutting oil output jointly by 1.8 million barrels per day (bpd), a deal they say has largely rebalanced the market and one that has helped elevate benchmark Brent prices close to four-year highs.
    Now, the relatively high prices brought about by that pact, coupled with surging U.S. output, are making it harder to sell Russian, Nigerian and other oil grades in Europe, traders said.
    “U.S. oil is on offer everywhere,” said a trader with a Mediterranean refiner, who regularly buys Russian and Caspian Sea crude and has recently started purchasing U.S. oil. “It puts local grades under a lot of pressure.”
    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/trumps-revenge-u-oil-floods-europe-hurting-opec-131846913–finance.html
    😉

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  23. George Rebane Avatar

    jons 1233pm – Don’t use italics unless you know how to terminate them.

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  24. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    Huh?

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  25. Bill Tozer Avatar

    Now, jon smith, you are really reaching now. Everybody knows that Walt is quite interested in volcanos, as evidenced by his numerous posts for years concerning volcanos and sharing latest eruptions I find them interesting, especially in light the growing body of evidence concerning previously undiscovered underwater active volancos (massively underestimated in number), and grossly underreported affect underwater volancos have on the “melting” Artic icecap, as previously reported here. Much more relavent to a socio-political Sandbox than reporting earthquakes or tsunamis.
    Oh, BTW, genius jon, turn off your frogging italics setting. As per normal. You mess it up for everybody else. Mark the tape.

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  26. Walt Avatar

    There is hope for “jon” yet!
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/04/23/sen-bernie-sanders-pushes-plan-to-guarantee-every-american-job.html
    Now just pray tell how that can work is beyond mortal comprehension.
    And @ 15 bucks an hour? Why not 20? It’s just OPM.
    And when it’s all said and done, you can probably show up to work when you damned well care to. Leave when you feel like it.
    You have better things to do.. Like,, get stoned.

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  27. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    Bill – Fish was in the middle of giving me an HTML lesson. I only learn from the best.

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  28. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    I may be slow, but it’s only Monday.
    Did the fat guy start that volcano? He’s over there with Walt’s daughter I think.

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  29. Walt Avatar

    Mzzzz.”jon”(GEN WTF?) needs to understand earth science before running down the road yelling “AGW!”.
    AHHHhhhh HELL!!! “jon” missed the memo….
    https://principia-scientific.org/climate-shock-90-percent-worlds-glaciers-growing/
    https://realclimatescience.com/2017/08/your-suv-melting-glaciers-for-160-years/
    And for a real nice “oh sh*t” moment,,,
    https://www.iceagenow.info/trying-explain-new-zealands-unusual-growing-glaciers/
    ( Yup,, been keeping my powder dry on these for a while… Never know when they will come in handy)

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  30. Walt Avatar

    You really want to go there “jon”?(23 April 2018 at 01:53 PM)
    You sure get pissy when you lose.

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  31. Bill Tozer Avatar

    “I may be slow, but it’s only Monday.”
    Ha, I used to know a painter whose punch line was, “I may be slow, but I sure am sloppy.”
    I happened to get stranded when St. Helen’s blew (not fun) and was stuck working on that hell hole Big Island on top of Mauna Kea when Mauna Lao erupted for the first time in 50 or so years. Pissed me off cause CBS came in and rented every chopter on The Island, which means I had to drive that long slow road up to the top of Mauna Kea to finish the job, albeit the Mauna Lao eruption was quite uneventful. The lava took its sweet time moving 3-7 mph. Yawn.
    While there, and being who I was at the time (a legend in my own mind), I was allowed to go down in the areas closed to the public in Kīlauea and walk carefully around. I made it just a few minutes when this big blast of hot sulfur gas hit me in the nostrils.
    Gawd, I was never so glad to get out of that wasteland and get back to America in my life. Vacationer’s dream or working man’s nightmare. One man’s meat is another man’s poison.
    Walt, lay that volcano news on me. Oh yeah, I was up on a mountain in Ecuador about 7 years ago when that thing started shaking and spewing and throwing hunks of ice and rocks. 30 villagers died a few days after that wonderful experience, so I headed up to the safer Columbia hill country jungles, home to the rebels. 🙂

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  32. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    re: JonSmith@1:51PM
    “Bill – Fish was in the middle of giving me an HTML lesson. I only learn from the best.”
    Sirma’am, you had an open italic that was altering all the following text. George fixed it.
    “Did the fat guy start that volcano? He’s over there with Walt’s daughter I think.”
    So what exactly does that mean? Perhaps you could expand on your theories about Walt’s daughter.
    re: The Sanders full employment plan, which hopefully doesn’t use the same bookkeeping as Burlington College.
    So exactly what jobs is he proposing? I’d love to publicly ask him whether illegal aliens can get on that program.

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  33. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    I see jonsmith the resident moron is at it again. Why these progressives think they have any scientific information is beyond me. They are all lemmings and believe everything AlGore says. That alone makes them all morons.

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  34. George Rebane Avatar

    jons 141pm – Your 1233pm italics were not properly which caused the next ten comments to all be displayed in italics. You erroneously used <i/> which I corrected for you. You can also correct your own error if you notice that comments following your italics are all in italics. Just post a comment with a </i>. (Ignore the asterisks)

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  35. Bill Tozer Avatar

    So, that’s what all the stink is about. Never heard of her, but she sounds like a nice lady.
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1301406009993433/?type=3&theater

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  36. Ricky McVeigh Avatar
    Ricky McVeigh

    Where fish go??

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  37. Walt Avatar

    Holy cow Bill,, you and Momma nature sure have had your meetings.
    I see you may have missed the latest fun and games on Mona Kea.
    All those protesters “loving” the land, and leaving the mess for others to clean up. (every rock is sacred ground)
    Maybe the stoner can tell us what that’s all about.( I already do,, I bet Bill does too.. it’s test time)

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  38. Marillyn Lock-Heed Avatar
    Marillyn Lock-Heed

    walt way back at 105pm,,, it’s the economy stupid,,,psst,,,don’t tell anyone but the economy has been ramping up for years

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  39. Marillyn Lock-Heed Avatar
    Marillyn Lock-Heed

    ,,,hey Ricky,,,welcome!!! Great to have a crooner aboard this cruise,,,
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r7qf6t_BDK8

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  40. Walt Avatar

    Not when “O” messed it up but good. We don’t speak revisionism here.
    (you might). If LIBS did a great job with the economy,, then tell us why they are not in power today. “welfare and Unemployment is great for the economy”. Nancy Pelosi.
    Under “O”,,, what was it??,,, 2.1%,, 2.6% at best? That’s your “ramping up”?? LOL…..

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  41. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    GR 3:05 – Thanks George. I actually do know how to keystroke HTML (built/repaired entire websites when I was forced to back in the dark ages). I simply screwed up and didn’t realize I hadn’t closed out the italics. Must have been because the hair dresser was coming back to rinse the dye from my do.

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  42. Walt Avatar

    Really “jon”? ,,Chemicals? Hair color as fake as the rest of ya’.
    Carpet no longer matches the drapes? Glad it wasn’t me paying for silicone “upgrades”.
    No wonder you have “pretty lady” issues.
    Now the Libs have gone full pansy.
    https://apnews.com/79dc2da81c644ef9bb97b844d88be1a5
    STATE COLLEGE, Pa. (AP) — A near-century-old outdoor recreation club will now refrain from going outside because it is too dangerous out in the wilderness, according to officials at Penn State University.

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  43. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    Walt – Did you ever try smoking with manzanita?
    Just got a faint whiff from the BGE and remembered our smoking conversation.

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  44. Walt Avatar

    Yeti is in full damage control.
    http://smokeroom.com/2018/04/23/yeti-nra-statement/
    I’ll make it simple for our LIBS. (poor cognitive skills)
    The NRA stated this.
    “Suddenly, without prior notice, YETI has declined to do business with The NRA Foundation saying they no longer wish to be an NRA vendor, and refused to say why. They will only say they will no longer sell products to The NRA Foundation.”
    Yeti says this
    A few weeks ago, Yeti notified the NRA Foundation, as well as a number of other organizations, that we were eliminating a group of outdated discounting programs. When we notified the NRA Foundation and the other organizations of this change, Yeti explained that we were offering them an alternative customization program broadly available to consumers and organizations, including the NRA Foundation. These facts directly contradict the inaccurate statement the NRA-ILA distributed on April 20.”
    I doubt vary much the NRA misunderstood.
    I bet Yeti is getting hammered.
    Let it be a warning to anti 2ND Amend. wusses.

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  45. Bill Tozer Avatar

    Concerning VHD’s excellent piece to start this Sandbox, I have been surprised (shocked) that he is held in high reverence and esteem by some of the most unlikely 30something crowd I have come across. Article is worth reading twice, be you a Democrat, a Republican, or a Deplorable (the party of Donald Trump, President of the United States).
    Time warp time.
    Dump Trump? (updated 2aug15)
    George Rebane
    “Columnists from the national (Victor Davis Hanson) to our local (George Boardman) scene have concluded that Donald Trump may actually be hitting a nerve with voters who are sick and tired of politicians side-stepping and mealy-mouthing important issues like the illegal alien influx and crime, immigration policy, and how to deal with a dangerous and failing Mexico. VDH writes ‘Donald Trump and the Fed-up Crowd’, a compelling piece that concludes –
    To explain the inexplicable rise of Donald Trump is to calibrate the anger of a fed-up crowd that is enjoying the comeuppance of an elite that never pays for the ramifications of its own ideology. The elite media, whose trademark is fad and cant, writes off the fed-up crowd as naïve and susceptible to demagoguery as the contradictory and hypocritical Trump manipulates their anger. In fact, they probably got it backwards. Trump is a transitory vehicle of the fed-up crowd, a current expression of their distaste for both Democratic and Republican politics, but not an end in and of himself. The fed-up crowd is tired of being demagogued to death by progressives, who brag of “working across the aisle” and “bipartisanship” as they ram through agendas with executive orders, court decisions, and public ridicule. So the fed-ups want other conservative candidates to emulate Trump’s verve, energy, eagerness to speak the unspeakable, and no-holds barred Lee Atwater style — without otherwise beingTrump.”
    ——————-
    Key takeaway: “Trump is a transitory vehicle of the fed-up crowd”, which is why all the predictions that the Establishment R’s would be so embarrassed by Trump they would force him to quit never materialized. He is out there dangling in the wind time and time again, a lone gunslinger….all by his lonesome…… with the fed-up crowd taking down any R that tries. We watch Trump’s back as R’s are watching their backs. The forgotten people shall be forgotten no more. We, just like the “children” protesting gun violence, want someone to listen to us as well. Listen to the children. We demand to be heard, lol.
    I was shocked, shocked with mouth agap when very early in the primaries a prominent Dem (Harry Reid?) cautioned that is political suicide to diss Trump supporters. Fatal mistake, he said. And yes, for the fed-up crowd, Trump is the right tool for the right job at the right time, nothing more, nothing less.

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  46. Walt Avatar

    Nevada City freezing over? “jon” trying to get back on my good side?
    Insults my kid and comes back with a smoker tip???
    I see you flunked ass kissing 101 too. That ain’t going to cut it snowflake.

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