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[It's tax season, and those of us who pay taxes are paying huge amounts.  The top 20% of earners pay 87% of the nation's income taxes (see graphic), and a lot, and I do mean a lot more of total taxes when you consider state income taxes for states like California.  More here.  gjr]

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223 responses to “Sandbox – 6apr18”

  1. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Oh c’mon, George – you know perfectly well the rich don’t pay any taxes!
    Any lefty will confirm that.
    At least not their ‘fair share’ – whatever that is.

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  2. Walt Avatar

    But Lefties SAID!!!!!
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/05/aluminum-prices-fall-despite-new-tariffs/
    The hate you have for Trump,, has got you by your own short and curlys.

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  3. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    Nothing new. Who would you suggest pay these taxes?
    The one and only hope that I had when our current political class came to office was some sort of grip on spending. When I hear the Pubbers on this page dismiss a 30 billion dollar highly questionable expense as a pittance, and blithely add 1.3 trillion to our budget (is debt ceiling a “thing” any longer in this Republican congress??) I understand that my hopes were for naught.
    If the people with money don’t pay the taxes, who will?

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  4. Bill Tozer Avatar

    ——-Attention whore time. Reposted from the closing minutes of the last Sandbox for Scene’s consideration:
    “Just when I thought I have seen it all…………..
    Will the “biological advantage” of straight people to reproduce be considered a violation of the equality principle?
    https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-opinion-the-nuclear-family-threat-1.5459170. “

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  5. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    Mr Eeeezy Beessee and Mr. Juvinall-
    Quick, put a call into the feds and update them with your spin on the market as Trump tweets away about sharing your pain at watching retirements get disemboweled by his boorish rhetoric.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-05/stock-rally-to-extend-in-asia-dollar-strengthens-markets-wrap

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  6. Walt Avatar

    DAMN! “jon” doesn’t even understand the tax issues.
    Did “jon” forgo his/her tax cut? Did you pay the old rate?
    Did you send in more than you needed to because the gov. needs it?
    No need to answer,, we already know it.(your not big on answering any questions as it is.)

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  7. George Rebane Avatar

    Our leftwing friends have made it very clear since the new fed budget was signed that had the Dems been in power, they would have been much more parsimonious, and added a lot less than the Repub’s $1.3T to the national debt over the next ten years. As support for that contention, I’m sure they’ll offer the thrift they practiced during the Obama years.

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  8. Walt Avatar

    Who needs ISIS vids?
    Now they cut off heads here.
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/04/06/mother-beheads-7-year-old-son/

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  9. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    Walt- Happy to answer. I didn’t personally see any tax cut and my payroll seems to be pretty evenly divided between those who pay more, less, or equal to taxes paid in years past. My guess is that you don’t have any employees, don’t see real payrolls, and are likely on the government dole and might get to pocket a few extra pennies each month.
    And George, of course . . . “B b b b but, what about Hillary, Obama, Dems (fill in the blank)” No need to answer any questions when the best you can do is offer “what if, what about, don’t you remember???”) Finger pointer at large.

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  10. Walt Avatar

    HAY!!! “JON”!!! We know how you LOVE regulations!
    Dance with joy naked in the rain! (Paul might join ya’)
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/04/06/dc-government-joins-scott-pruitt-pile-on-issues-citation-to-landlord.html
    “The city “issued a Notice of Infraction to the [landlord] for engaging in unlicensed rental housing activity,” ABC News reported, citing a press release by the agency.”
    Maybe a felony charge is in order?
    I would like to send the authorities by your place to see what you can be charged with. If your on the up and up, you should have little reason to deny the entry…. What’ya say?

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  11. Walt Avatar

    When I work I pay. Can’t dance and it’s too wet to plow.
    Nope, don’t “own” the business.(yet that business would be tits up without my help)
    And Nooooo. I have never taken one dime in gov. support.. EVER.
    Unemployment checks in the Winter don’t count, since I paid into that. And even those were a LONG time ago.
    Really don’t see you as a business owner. But stranger things have happened.. (dope grower?)

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  12. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    jonSmith/linda wants us o believe he is a businessman/emp[loyer? I laughed my ass off at his last post. He has no employees and like most of what he writes he makes it up just like all liberals.The American unemployment rates are the lowest in many years and lower for all. But that is not what liberals like. They want dependant people on the government. So I get it why jon is mad. Too many indies out there now.

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  13. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    To prove I use your links Walt:
    “Pruitt told Fox News when asked, “Is draining the swamp, renting an apartment from the wife of a Washington lobbyist?” that it was not “remotely fair to ask that question.””
    Not fair, not fair, not fair, don’t ask that question. I don’t like it.
    Spoken like a true follower.

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  14. Walt Avatar

    LOL “jonnie”… The big bitch now is his living accommodations?
    Yes, desperation has REALLY set in.
    Take his landlord out and shoot’m in the street!
    Now… How bout those “common sense” gun law questions you conveniently dodged? You really don’t have any…. Do ya’?
    Not without scrapping half the Constitution in the process.
    But since Lefties have no real respect for the Constitution,,

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  15. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Walt, jon/linda is a scofflaw teacher of our little ones. No wonder the education system is screwed up so bad. He and Linda Campbell share too many things.

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  16. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    Walter-
    1-background check with zero tolerance for felons, non-citizens, violent offenders, mentally ill, or hard drug users.
    2-registration.
    3-limited capacity magazine (no clip) (pick a number, 10-12 rounds seems adequate for any shooting I’ve ever done)
    4-put in place a system to perform background investigations initiated by people worried about the mental capacity of a gun owner.
    5-mandatory prison time and life long forfeiture of gun ownership, for anyone found illegally possessing a gun or illegal components.
    Once again, I’ve given you my common sense ideas. You, of course, have never offered any and scenes is on record as saying he won’t compromise anything. So, once again Mr. Branson, ball in your court and I expect nothing more than the echo of a bouncing ball or the squeal of, “but what about Obama??”

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  17. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    3-limited capacity magazine (no clip) (pick a number, 10-12 rounds seems adequate for any shooting I’ve ever done)
    Let’s start here. More details please.
    You are saying I can’t have a 10 round magazine on a bolt or pump action rifle?

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  18. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    I don’t see that written or implied.

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  19. Walt Avatar

    1- No problem from me.
    2 Why? It serves no useful propose. Bad guys won’t comply… ever.
    3 Another, Why? what’s the point? So it’s only makes sense to you.
    You buying everyone’s ammo? I would have my AR belt fed if I could make it work. Again.. Will the criminal element obey that law? (NO)
    4 How do you get around the Dr./patient privacy laws? And just who make the determination of mental capacity?(I give you the You Tube shooter) And who is going to give YOU(or me for that matter) someone’s private info? ( Invasion of one’s privacy at a minimum.)
    5 Good bloody luck. Felons are found with guns they are already forbidden to own, every damned day.
    I give you Jerry Brown for decriminalizing gun crime.
    I propose mandatory gun ownership.(for the law abiding citizen)
    CCW’s for all. ( watch how fast crime falls away.)
    More weapons in the hands of the law abiding citizen tends to lead to less crime.( I won’t bother you with the facts on that.)
    Any criminal who is not supposed to have a gun goes away for a VARY long time. ( bleeding heart Lefties hate that idea…Ask Brown)
    So how is “your plan” working in Chicago? Any bets on the body count by Mon.?

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  20. Walt Avatar

    Well Scenes,, ol’ “jon” started the defection right out of the wrapper.
    “jon” has never seen an M14 apparently. (and not subject to Ca. evil weapons ban) I can have it “fixed” and still load it.
    And the HORROR!! It was used in a war by the military!

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  21. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    JonSmith is not a registered voter here so who cares what he says?

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  22. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    js 219pm
    Why 10 rounds? Is it a number pulled out of a hat? If this is a negotiation, how about 20?
    The Browning Hi-Power pistol, the last handgun design of John Browning, had from the first a 13 round magazine standard, the first of the ‘wonder nines’, about equivalent to having two 38 caliber revolvers in shots and rate of fire. Many millions were sold. Glocks were designed to hold 17 rounds. The fixed magazine of the first production semiautomatic, the “Broomhandle” Mauser C96, was 10 but many were made to hold 20 rounds in their fixed (not removable) magazine.
    The Mauser, first produced 122 years ago and lauded by Winston Churchill, is immortalized in Star Wars as Han Solo’s blaster, which has had the unfortunate effect of collectible C96s in original condition being sold to movie fans who then had them carved up and ugly bits added to look like the movie props.

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  23. Walt Avatar

    As usual, when “jon’s” argument won’t hold water, GONE.. Like a prom dress. Paul has taught them well. Won’t be back till the subject changes.

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  24. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    Gregory-
    “Is it a number pulled out of a hat?”
    Yes.

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  25. Scenes Avatar
    Scenes

    just to dig in a little bit.
    “I don’t see that written or implied.”
    So it should be illegal to have an 11 round magazine for a bolt action rifle? What purpose does that serve?
    Keep in mind that magazine restrictions really don’t change the rate of fire all that much if you are mayhem oriented and it messes with practically any available magazine fed firearm (I assume you mean removable magazines…a subquestion is whether that restriction applies to fixed magazines).
    I’m not sure they even make 10 round magazines for most 9mm handguns or .308 semiauto rifles. The former because there’s no advantage and the latter because they are not well supported.
    My guess is that the fascination with the number of rounds in a bent sheet metal enclosure is that it’s one of the few things that a number can be applied to.

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  26. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    10 is a number. I think it is more acceptable than a one round single shot to the pro gun crowd and more acceptable than a belt fed feature or 60 round clips to the anti gun crowd. I tossed out a number I would personally find reasonable for any target application, and more than legal in many hunting applications. Toss out a number that both sides might agree upon.

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  27. Walt Avatar

    “reasonable”,, Says the one two cats short of ….. nuts
    Let me know how you get Joe tweeker, who refuses to turn in his illegal 100 round beta mags. The guy who is out to take what you have. No “jon”, you don’t read about those in the police blotter.
    No, the local rag won’t report that “bad news” either. Gotta keep the gen. public in the dark about what really goes on.
    Contrary to usual opinion, “if it’s not in the paper, it didn’t happen”.

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  28. Walt Avatar

    “jon”..When you start paying my ammo bill, then you can tell me just what is “reasonable” Leftists lost any meaning of “reason” a LONG time ago.

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  29. Walt Avatar

    Three dope plants for anyone is “reasonable” to me.
    Just like the dopers. 10 was the limit… They just added a “0” to that. What’s an extra 90 plants? No one will know the diff. “cops can’t count”.

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  30. Scenes Avatar
    Scenes

    “Toss out a number that both sides might agree upon.”
    As a practical matter, probably 20 (not sure). I’m not familiar with all the handgun sizes.Not that it makes any difference in lethality really. It’s definitely more of a nuisance at a range to use small sizes. Reliability suffers they bigger they get in any case…you can argue that you go to a minimum of 40 rounds.
    The fewer people you make destroy their stuff, the more that could be nudged over. Not everybody is a 2nd amendment champion so some might be convinced…although at this point I’m not sure. After a year of Trumphate, Team Red is not much for giving in.
    The Five-seveN people would be aggrieved, but that’s a small group. As an aside, it’s worth considering that those are probably optimal for mayhem (used at Ft. Hood). Dunno what the fixation on AR15 pattern rifles is all about.

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  31. George Rebane Avatar

    For those unable to understand the topic of the ‘Gun Violence town hall …’, it’s all about debating guns and gun ownership. The sandbox is for all other topics not covered in my topical commentaries. Give it a try.

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  32. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Yes 10 rounds is an acceptable number. That’s also the opinion of the Florida school shooter. I wonder if jonnie boy realizes his fabulous new regs wouldn’t have stopped any of the mass shootings?
    Ooops.
    Remember – folks who set out to murder people don’t seem to give much care for jonnie boy or his magic regulations.
    Nice try, jonnie boy – back to the drawing board.
    And jonnie – good luck with the registration thingie. The lefties at Kos and Mother Jones have already gone on record as saying that registration is simply the first step in all out confiscation. History has already born that out. Facts are stubborn things, jonnie boy.
    If you want to stop gun violence, start with the criminals, not the law abiding citizens.

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  33. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    You win Scott, I guess 10 rounds isn’t restrictive enough for you – lets try 3 rounds. . . it worked on us duck hunters. To bust your bubble, the Florida shooter had a bag full of pre loaded clips. You conveniently “forgot” that part of my suggestion. If he had to thumb load between shootings it might have slowed things down just a teensy weensy bit and perhaps a few more kids would be walking around today to protest. But we wouldn’t want that now, would we?

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  34. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    “Dunno what the fixation on AR15 pattern rifles is all about.”
    Because they’re probably the most common rifle sold in the US these days.
    Banning them would piss off the NRA and the largest number of conservatives.
    It would do little or nothing to alter the fire arm murder rate but who cares about that?
    This is about sticking it to the man. Get it, Daddy O?

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  35. Scenes Avatar
    Scenes

    *****MOVING GUNS TO OTHER THREAD AS DIRECTED…******

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  36. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    from the ever present presence of mindlessness – jonnie boy smith – “You conveniently “forgot” that part of my suggestion.”
    No jonnie boy – you can’t read. Murderers tend to not care about your rules.
    The AR15 type of rifle uses a system of detachable magazines. ‘Clips’ are used with rifles such as the SKS. I realize some folks call the detachable mags ‘clips’ but then that confuses the issue because it doesn’t differentiate between a method of holding the ammo in a clip until the ammo is inserted into the fixed magazine vs a separate detachable magazine.
    At any rate, my point stands that if you want to stop criminals, go after the criminals and leave the law abiding citizens alone.
    It seems your biggest beef is with Moonbeam Brown. Go yell at him.

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  37. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Uh, oh – guilty as charged – should have moved the last 2 comments.

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  38. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    They were serious about stop and detain in expedited removal facilities at the boarder. They are doing so much so fast the left has too many things to rant over.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-trump-memo/trump-signs-memo-ending-catch-and-release-immigration-policy-idUSKCN1HD31Q
    Did you hear how much the eco terrorists cost us to protect the EPA swamp drainer? Worth every penny!
    😉

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  39. Bill Tozer Avatar

    Wow. Big Opps. 2012 study reverses findings. Liberals are indeed kind of crazy.
    https://patriotpost.us/articles/55181-correction-turns-out-liberals-are-crazy

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  40. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “According to campaign finance reports, JoAnn and George “extreme political rightwing blogger” Rebane donated a hefty $1,000 to Dan Miller’s Supervisor campaign in District 3 — but don’t even live in that district.”- pelline
    Congratulations, George…. the Former Union Editor has re-evaluated your politics and you are now an “extreme political rightwing blogger”. “Hard right” just doesn’t do you justice now in Cartman’s world.
    It might be fun to actually map where Ms. Hodge’s donations are coming from. What percentage from inside the district, what percentage outside the district but still inside Nevada County and what percentage is coming from outside the county.

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  41. Scenes Avatar
    Scenes

    “extreme political rightwing blogger”
    lol. It lacks alliteration, but I like it.
    Honestly, I think that George is rather middle o’ the road in the rightosphere, but I doubt that Spanky has run into “extreme political rightwing bloggers” before.
    I’d go check out the post, but it just makes me tired. At least talking to yourself online doesn’t have the social burden that hearing voices in public might cause.
    Hopefully he can work a ‘Hitler’ or two into his missives.
    You know, I should actually pay attention to Nevada County politics. It just occurred to me that ‘Heidi Hall’ and ‘Hilary Hodge’ are different people.

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  42. Bill Tozer Avatar

    Scenes. Heidi Hall is a county supervisor. When she introduced herself to the public via The Union, her pics showed her standing in an all female group with her mentor and supporter Nancy Peloski. Nancy groomed her gals. A big selling point. Her resume is chock full of being a valued State employee of various Eco departments. All green and all blue.
    Hilary Hodge is running for County Supervisor. She used to have a column in The Union in which she took great pains to let everyone know she is a lesbian. Oh wow. After about 20 times, I think she got her point across. Ok, you are a lesbian, as if that makes any matter. Got it. Hilary is a lesbo. Now, what other qualifications does she have besides being a delagate to the CA Dem Convention? Oh yeah. If you do not park your car in a parking spot exactly parallel to the lines, she will roll her eyes and show you exactly how a car should be parked. That’s kinda quirky, IMHO.
    And she (Hilary with one L) worries about her Latinx niece since Donald Trump became President and wonders which of her neighbors and community members voted for Donald Trump. How could they!! Is it the clerk at the market? Is it that man over there? Who are they, which closet racists are lurking behind their smiles and greetings to her? Her safe place of Nevada County will never feel safe again. Could it be her mailman that voted for Trump? Someone who lives on her Mother’s Street?
    Hey, I have been to Hollywood, I have been to Redwood. I have been in the seediest gay bars from coast to coast (cheaper drinks) and in the highest of high high class gay establishments. No problem, ever. But, it was not til Hilary started writing columns that I have ever had to be reminded over and over and over again by any gay friend or acquaintance that they are gay….until Hilary H found it necessary to tell the reader she is gay. Got it. Got it ten times ago.
    Oh yeah, Hilary said Hillary Clinton was the most qualified candidate ever ever ever to run for President in our nation’s history. The reason HRC lost is Because a Woman is not allowed to break the glass ceiling….alas, oh what to tell our litte girls now. Nothing to do with the fact people (Dems, R’s, Indies) do not like My Gal HRC and to this very hour people still do not like My Gal. Heck, even Bubba still does not like her. Maybe it’s because she has a vagina. Bet that’s it.

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  43. George Rebane Avatar

    Well, we again made the pages of The Union today thanks to our favorite ‘center roader’, Mr Bob Crabb. I have updated ‘Progressives Pander Pubertistas’ to pay grateful homage to Mr Crabb.
    http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2018/03/progressives-pander-pubertistas.html

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  44. George Boardman Avatar

    Dr. R, do you really think that’s you in Crabb’s cartoon? You look too skinny. Have you lost weight since the one time we met?
    However, I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s Walt standing to your right.

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  45. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Did someone put sand in you Metamucil today Baordman?

    People absolutely HAVE to stop coddling and enabling their children. It’s a problem that’s going to spread through our society like wildfire. It’s not fair to society, and more importantly, is not fair to the children to teach them this is okay. It will not serve them towards a successful and happy life.”
    https://www.popsugar.com/moms/Teacher-Goes-Rant-About-Parents-Coddling-Kids-44728663
    😉

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  46. George Rebane Avatar

    GeorgeB 127pm – Truth be told Mr Boardman, I look a lot skinnier than I am (an optical delusion that comforts tall people?), and I think Bob was being kind. 😉

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  47. Walt Avatar

    The head Twitt speaks.
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/04/07/twitter-jack-dorsey-second-civil-war-trump/
    “California, despite its mass wealth inequality, growing lack of social cohesion, poverty, and soaring housing costs “provides a model for America as a whole,”
    No wonder Proggys what the people disarmed.

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  48. George Boardman Avatar

    Dr. R, I’m not implying you’re fat. You’re a big guy who can carry a lot of weight.

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  49. George Rebane Avatar

    GeorgeB 422pm – Thank you for those kind words Mr Boardman; I am on my way to invite Jo Ann to also admire them as she has been on my case as of late.

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