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George Rebane

Today’s Union has an excellent editorial – ‘Our View: This community is all our backyard’ – in which it takes to task those of us who tend to oppose anything that will bring needed change to our county.  The editorial goes through a number of recent and current development initiatives that have again run into strong headwinds from the usual contingents.  Even though our electeds make a significant contribution to the sand in our gears, but “we can’t lay all the problems we face at the doorstep of our elected leaders. Our community could use a sea change about what shape it should take and what direction it should go.”  And in these pages we have been promoting such a sea change for years as our population stagnates, families move elsewhere, and potential new businesses give us a pass once they get a good whiff of the county’s new political face.  I give a big ‘Amen’ to that sea change, and a H/T to Bob Crabb for his contribution (filched from the 24mar18 Union) to the dialogue.

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This weekend the nation’s progressively propelled pubertistas are marching in opposition to what they know not, but easily accept as ‘gun violence’.  In a recent post we covered the launch of this nascent lamestream-lauded movement under ‘Progressives Pander Pubertistas’.  What should continue to interest all of us is how the country’s adults view these marches comprised of ignorant and emotional young people, enthralled in the first flood of hormones evolved to mediate the journey from childhood to an adult.  Easily assembled and directed, all of them sport brains that clinical science tells us are yet years from being fully formed for taking reliably rational decisions.  To see who seeks to benefit from franchising these anxious and anxiety ridden works-in-progress, just take a look at the politicians, organizations, and media that promote them.  Long ago our Founders built on the then already known progress of human development, and made it law of the land that no one could be elected into a federal policy making office before the age of twenty-five.  And we also know how past childrens’ crusades have ended.

[25mar18 update]  Meteorologists, you gotta love ‘em.  The recent couple of weeks here in Northern California have again amply demonstrated their prowess at forecasting what they are paid to forecast – the weather.  These guys make economists and stock pickers look good, and I have no idea how they steel themselves before accepting another paycheck for their work.  As one who has some acquaintance with estimation theory, the work of the meteorologists is below sophomoric; most certainly, none of their computer models work.  It is clear that any claim of having improved their sophistry over the years is not due to their increased understanding of the processes that drive the weather.  Their performance, such as it is, can all be laid to having a better view (data and imagery from orbit and reporting surface stations) of what is ‘upstream’ of their prediction area.  Then they look at past records of what such observations have actually delivered, and go from there.  But even then they screw up, apparently never having heard of the good Rev Bayes as their ‘100% chance of rain’ pronouncements confirm.

[28mar18 update]  WSJ’s leftwing columnist William Galston may have had an epiphany which, in all fairness, I must recognize.  In the paper’s 28mar18 edition he writes a piece on ‘The Case for Responsible Nationalism’, and surprises us with –

National governments are not required to value the citizens of other countries as highly as their own. A degree of self-preference is morally justified and politically essential. Leaders in advanced countries are not obligated to practice global utilitarianism or lift up the global poor at the expense of their working and middle classes. … There will probably never be a real world government. There are no “global citizens.” People belong to sovereign states with different languages, cultures and institutions. Free societies are composed of citizens who agree to share a common fate and to work out their destiny through accountable politics. They undertake special responsibilities toward their fellow citizens, and the policies of free governments must take these reciprocal commitments into account.

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87 responses to “Scattershots – 24mar18 (updated 28mar18)”

  1. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    The Union editorial was spot on. And the little kidlets are doing the bidding of the old hippie protestors from what I have seen on the TV channels.

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  2. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    It isn’t just the young who are ignorant and emotional – and there are plenty of the young who are intelligent and rational but won’t be allowed anywhere near a microphone. Paul Emery told me I should ‘listen’ to these morons as I might ‘learn’ something. All I heard was the usual left wing lies and BS.
    I have yet to hear any sort of rational and comprehensive proposal from the left that would actually address the problem of gun violence.
    The NRA is a gun safety and civil rights organization – who’s against that?

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  3. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    ABC news had a piece with young David Hogg where they presented him with their poll results… that 57% saw the school shootings as a mental health issue, or a lack of gun control laws which got a 28%. Hogg then went right into his memorized statement.
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/parkland-school-shooting-survivor-march-lives-start-revolution/story?id=53981583
    Hogg’s mother is a democratic activist, his dad works for the FBI. Hogg has found his calling, we shall see if he’s the second coming of Sarah Brady or Cindy Sheehan. I’d bet on the latter.

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  4. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Those calling for a National Safe Space and Freedom from Gun Worry Act need to go to the heart of the matter, put into play a proposed constitutional amendment to repeal the 2nd.
    That’s the only way to make it stop hurting.
    Good luck!
    To show solidarity, I expect everyone who wants to solve the gun crisis to place a placard stating “Gun Free Home” or “Gun Free Business” where they live and work. Otherwise, you’re just piggybacking onto the people who have a gun and might, just might, shoot an unwanted intruder.
    In some towns, breaking and entering is an act of Russian Roulette; in others, it’s akin to suicide. Place your bets.

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  5. Bill Tozer Avatar

    Boy, little Hogg and gang don’t like the empty backpack rule. Violates their 1st Amendment rights. The old balancing security vs civil liberties dilemma. Sophie’s Choice.
    https://www.facebook.com/STFUDavidHogg/photos/a.2021912284698623.1073741828.2021909471365571/2032706320285886/?type=3&theater

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  6. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Wellll, the pigglet is mixing up the bill of rights (the clear backback could be seen as a 4th Amendment violation I suppose but not the 1st) but then, he doesn’t understand the 2nd, either.

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  7. George Boardman Avatar

    You better be careful praising editorials in The Union. You might be accused of having a conflict of interest because your wife is on the editorial board.

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  8. ArchieBunker Avatar
    ArchieBunker

    Selectively senile self-satisfied seniors surely suffer syndromes similar to the progressively propelled pubertistas. Just take a look at the politicians, organizations, and media that promote them. Get off my lawn; I have a gun; No on NH2020; No on MJ; No on high speed rail; no! No! NO!
    Burma-Shave

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  9. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    I wouldn’t worry so much about Hogg’s speechifying. It’s merely a combination of young guy silly politics and a bit of a career building exercise. Obviously, he’s hoping he can work this whole activism phase into either a slot in a decent school or some sort of political media gig.
    re: The cartoon:
    . we need affordable housing
    . we need homeless shelter
    . we need crazy people facilities
    . we need shopping center
    . we need dope
    as something of an oblique take on this, when I was growing up, none of those questions were asked or even much needed. So what happened?

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  10. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    re: ArchieBunker@1:53PM
    “No on high speed rail; no! No! NO!”
    It’s funny how that’s even political. Hell dude, it’s a one party state, simply build the thing. It’s isn’t like the evil Orange Hitler ‘pubbers’ have a bit of say here. Go for it.
    Same goes for marijuana, guns, the third world invasion, all your favorite issues. The only limitation is the federal government, and the local federal court is as insane as your average California resident.
    I wonder sometimes how much a ticket should cost on, say, a SF to LA train. By ‘ticket’ I mean some sort of tithe that breaks even. The only other line you could make a slight case for might be LA to Las Vegas I suppose.
    Somehow, this is supposed to be more efficient than existing short haul airlines or buses. Wait a few years, and the buses will be robot-driven. I guess there’s some magic to rails that make it all super efficient.
    Seriously, Archie Bunker, if your belief system is so wondrous, why can’t California be an amazing place to live? A few natural ports, nice weather, and the beach are not your fault. Why can’t you make the whole state homeless friendly with free health care?

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  11. George Rebane Avatar

    GeorgeB 153pm – Well yes Mr Boardman, but the careful reader will note that these pages are complete with a generous compilation of both hits and misses for the Union’s content over the years. And I take great pleasure in noting the kind of people whose nose might get out of joint due to such alleged conflicts of interest – my advice to them is ‘learn to live with it’.

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  12. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Archie – yes there was quite a crowd. What was the cost and the carbon footprint of getting everyone there? How many hungry children died of starvation somewhere in the world for lack of funds that were instead spent on a bunch of ranting fools parading around exposing their ignorance to the world? But of course those are only questions we ask when it’s not the left that are involved.
    As for Archie’s post at 1:53 – We can discuss the issues point by point, but you know you haven’t got a clue.
    Kids in my neighborhood can play on my lawn any time they want – I think you’re projecting.
    Yes on the Bill of Rights, yes on reducing the crushing burden of govt debt, yes on liberty, yes on freedom.
    But Archie says – “no, no, no, no!”
    See how that works, Archie? Now go back to watching TV and swilling beer.

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  13. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Estimates for the rabble in DC today are 800K. Wow – The NRA has over 4 million and growing daily, thanks to fools like Hogg.
    Sorry Archie – you lose.

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  14. George Rebane Avatar

    It does again corroborate the tenet that the Left believes that the verity of what a mob promotes is proportional to the size of the mob.

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  15. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    But, but, but, George – Oprah and Sir Paul and Clooney!!!!

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  16. Scenes Avatar
    Scenes

    re: AB@3:57pm
    Good sized group. An interesting way to present it (given by the party organ naturally).
    https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000005812020/a-360-degree-view-of-the-march-for-our-lives-protest.html
    The professional Left is good at getting out a crowd, there’s no doubt. With the Russian deal losing traction, guns are an excellent next step. Q. Is the notion of outlawing firearms a powerful enough thing to base a political movement on? Dunno.

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  17. Bill Tozer Avatar

    Gotta feel sorry for our contrarians. They only thing they have for all their efforts is a few memento photos of a crowd and dirt. No Russian Collusion, no crime to be found, no policies, no there there. Where’s the beef? Where’s their burger in their nothingburger?
    Nothing but “I went to the March on Guns and all I got was this Lousy Tee Shirt” and dirt to throw on Trump. All they have is a handful of dirt to sling…consensual sexual intercourse between two willing adults dirt and nary a bloody lip on any of the gals. Just like Camelot.
    Well, they tried criminal and that was a rabbit hole. Dirt might work as a winning strategy, bless their little Archie Bunker hearts.
    Rather than belabor the point, I will take Hillary and Michele’s lead and say, “When they go low, we go high.”

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  18. Paul Emery Avatar

    George
    You say that the student protestors ” sport brains that clinical science tells us are yet years from being fully formed for taking reliably rational decisions.”
    Since most of them are juniors or seniors in High school how many years are you referring to and are you not supporting the argument that 18 and 19 year olds are too young and immature to purchase AR 15 rifles?

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  19. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Paul – let’s turn that around once more – too immature to own a fire arm (it used to be acceptable and not a problem for 12 yr olds to own a rifle) yet they have the wisdom to upend 230 plus years of freedom and liberty with half baked slogans?
    We await your reply.
    I suggest that Paul view the video Gregory posted the link to at 12:41.
    HoggHead couldn’t even reply to a simple question put to him.

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  20. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 705pm – Paul, insanity is not age dependent. The researchers tell us that a human brain matures somewhere in the 22-25 age bracket. Purchasing a gun to go target shooting or hunting or any other legal use of it should be based on sanity and demonstrated responsibility. Yes, younger ‘normal’ kids are not always responsible and that’s why we require that they live under adult supervision until some arbitrary age like 16 or 18. At 18 we consider them trainable for responsibility in doing defined tasks as, say, required in the military. While under adult supervision, it is the legal guardian adult who should make the decision whether junior should have what kind of gun. If we cannot trust said adult, then we need a makeover of our culture since we depend on such adults to keep the little savages in line as they mature. What kind of state intervention do you propose for taking over what functions our legal guardians have had for generations?

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  21. Paul Emery Avatar

    George
    You claim that the students in the march are mot mature enough yet at 18 they are no longer under adult supervision yet within the “years from being fully formed “. therefore how can you justify allowing 18 year olds that are no longer under adult supervision to buy AR 15 rifles. Quite simply my friend you make no sense and your argument is not substantiated by your own admission that they are not old or mature enough to make decisions.

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  22. Paul Emery Avatar

    One more thing George. While It can be argued that an 18 year old under adult supervision and with permission may be allowed to possess an AR15, does the same right apply to an 18 or 19 year old who is not under adult supervision. Also can you provide more details about what is the age that the brain is developed enough to purchase and possess an AR 15 rifle. Since “years” is plural and the vast majority of the protesting young people are of high school age and are probably 16 or 17 years you imply that they need to be 20 or 21 to reach a level of maturity.

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  23. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Paul, an AR-15 isn’t any deadlier than any other .22 caliber centerfire rifle. It just isn’t.

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  24. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Paul continues blowing wind yet ducks my question. 12 year olds used to walk around with fire arms and no massacres occurred. What has happened in the interval?
    They are wise enough to upend our civil liberties, and vote on our leadership, yet too stupid to possess a fire arm? Can’t have it both ways. I contend a properly raised 18 year old knows enough to operate a fire arm safely yet most 30 or 40 year olds have no conception of what they vote for. Any low IQ person can operate a fire arm safely. It’s not difficult at all.
    Here is factual knowledge the left wants to ignore.
    https://spectator.org/what-26-of-27-mass-shooters-shared-in-common/

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  25. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Looks to me like the kids march today was actually a parents march. Every old fart hippie and lib were out on the pavement.

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  26. Russ Avatar
    Russ

    The March For Our Lives Forms Up A Dark Money Group To Hide Its Donors
    The March For Our Lives against gun violence, organized by kids for kids, quietly registered as a 501(c)(4) with the D.C. Department of Consumer and Regulatory Affairs, The Washington Free Beacon reports — a designation that allows the March to keep its big money donors secret from prying eyes.
    According to WFB, the March, whose signature event is scheduled for this Saturday, decided to incorporate as a “social welfare” organization, and a non-profit, but not a 501(c)(3), a designation which would have allowed those who donated to the March to claim their contributions as tax deductions, but which would have required the March itself to submit a list of their contributors to the IRS.
    [. . .]
    One thing is clear from the March’s paperwork: the kids are definitely no longer in charge.
    It was already evident that major leftists organizations were dictating the March’s agenda and schedule. Buzzfeed reported weeks ago that Everytown for Gun Safety, the Giffords organization, Planned Parenthood, and the Women’s March had all taken critical roles in organizing Saturday’s event. Key Democratic legislators, like Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL), moved in on the kids quickly, and helped facilitate meetings with progressive groups.
    The paperwork lists Jeri Rhodes as the March’s top official. Rhodes, according to WFB, “lobbies Congress and the administration to advance peace, justice, opportunity, and environmental stewardship,” and was formerly the chief financial officer of Greenpeace.
    The Huffington Post also discovered that while the kids are theoretically in charge, a “board of directors” that reads like a who’s who of progressive activists will decide how the nearly $4 million the kids have raised is spent.
    George Kieffer, chair of the Board of Regents of the University of California; Jeri Rhodes, who is with the Friends Committee on National Legislation, a Washington-based lobbying group founded by Quakers; Aileen Adams; who served under former Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa; Nina Vinik, an attorney who has a background in gun violence prevention; Vernetta Walker from BoardSource, an organization that provides support for nonprofit leaders; and Melissa Scholz, an attorney who has expertise in nonprofit law.
    The Parkland students will serve as an “advisory board” with no apparent official say over how the funds are dispersed.
    The March for Our Lives website says donations will go towards covering expenses so that students can attend the protest in Washington, D.C., but the March’s public relations firm told HuffPo that whatever’s left over will go to “‘fight for comprehensive gun safety legislation’ and to promote voter education, ballot initiatives and lobbying efforts.”
    [. . .]
    Now, it seems, they’re using the same designation to keep donors to the March out of the loop as to how their money is being spent, and where their donations are really going — because, it appears, those donations aren’t going to the Parkland students.
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/28550/march-our-lives-forms-dark-money-group-hide-its-emily-zanotti?
    Younger front men and women, but it is still all politics under the blanket

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  27. Bonnie McGuire Avatar

    Russ…It’s pretty obvious that it’s the same o same o pschycological-political indoctrination education used by the German Nazis and communist socialists last century. The world pschycology leader “Russia” now calls it the new mental warfare that doesn’t require guns etc. First ya drug the kids and then ya hypnotize em to do whatever…It’s sad to watch. I read somewhere that it was illegal for schools to encourage this behavior.

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  28. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 818pm – I don’t think I was able to communicate anything to you in my 725pm. Your logic is not comprehensible to me any more than apparently is mine to you. We permit people 18 to be trained to kill in the military, and people 16 to drive lethal weapons down the road. No one is talking about taking those privileges away. Why?

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  29. Paul Emery Avatar

    George
    On one hand you say the kids in the march are too young and undeveloped mentally to have and express opinions on gun violence yet they are able to purchase and possess AR 15’s at the age of 18. So possession of AR15’s by immature teenagers is ok but expressing their views in public is not because they are immature. Doesn’t add up George.

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  30. Paul Emery Avatar

    Scott
    Are you saying 12 year olds should be able to possess AR 15’s?

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  31. Bill Tozer Avatar

    Funny yet sad: The kids and adults marching about actually think that gun laws will keep them safe. It’s like a Greek Tragedy. Laugh or cry? I am still laughing. Gun laws will make them safe? Beam me up, Scotty

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  32. ArchieBunker Avatar
    ArchieBunker

    Looking at all those youngsters passionately protesting NRA panderers I see so many energetic future Democratic voters . Hat tip to the NRA!

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  33. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Anyone have the stats on the age of murderers? Would be interesting to see where this idea of age comes from.

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  34. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Paul there are 12 year olds with more maturity and wisdom than you possess. If you have a conversation with them and ask them a question, they give a forthright answer. You should listen to those kids, you might learn something.

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  35. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    George 9:03-
    The second someone argues, “an AR-15 isn’t any deadlier than any other .22 caliber centerfire rifle.” they have branded themselves as an idiot. A hand grenade or a hydrogen bomb isn’t any deadlier either.
    I am not against the private ownership of AR 15s, but I am against your “logic” to promote the argument. Lets wait for Todd to wade into this. Then we can really look stupid.

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  36. Bill Tozer Avatar

    1) If all the non NRA members out would stop shooting people, gun violence would drop by 100%. All in all, I still,believe nothing will come of,it, safe some dancing around the edges. Shall not be infringed is pretty clear.
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1847635811922176&set=p.1847635811922176&type=3&theater
    2) To date, every person that has ever walked into the NRA headquarters has walked out
    alive. Can’t say the same thing for some of the organizers of the march.
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.254420818025296.63999.217926015008110/1283753291758705/?type=3&theater

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  37. Walt Avatar

    Mzzzz. “jon” just showed her ignorance of knowledge of weapons.
    Thanks.
    So do explain how a .22VS.223 will kill you more deader.
    In the right hands, a sling shot is deadly at over 50 yards.
    Ever seen the packaged ammo for slingshots “jon”? Ball bearings.
    (you can buy one today at Kmart.. NO background check required)

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  38. Bill Tozer Avatar

    “The second someone argues, “an AR-15 isn’t any deadlier than any other .22 caliber centerfire rifle.” they have branded themselves as an idiot.“
    Well, if one added the word “slightly” to the sentence, he would be 100% correct. An AR-15 22 rifle is slightly more powerful than a 22 rifle.

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  39. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    Bill 8:53 – You just failed hunter safety question #21. The word powerful isn’t in the statement. Deadlier is. Walt is right (but he apparently misread my statement) even a screw driver is as deadly as a .22. The point has nothing to do with deadly and everything to do with kill rate.

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  40. Walt Avatar

    More horse shit “jon”. ” kill rate”.. Just what orifice South of your belt line did you pull that from?
    Typical Leftist.. Make sh*t up as you go.

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  41. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    “an AR-15 isn’t any deadlier than any other .22 caliber centerfire rifle.”
    Both can kill – how much deader than dead do you want?
    If you are talking about the ‘power’ of a certain type of ammo, then we can discuss velocity, projectile mass, etc.
    A .22 rim fire rifle is a deadly weapon. So is a .223 center fire rifle. They both need to be handled in the same safe manner.

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  42. Walt Avatar

    I have a single shot .22 another that holds 15 in the tube, another that can take magazines.(Pick your count)
    Which is more “deadly” Mzzzz.”jon”??
    Shoots your analogy full of holes.

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  43. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    And js at 8:59 – ‘kill rate’. Second time you’ve brought that up, jonnie boy. You have yet to tell us what your acceptable rate of kill is.

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  44. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    Never heard that term Walt? With your twist of logic, tell us why they don’t arm soldiers with .22 single shot rifles and a screwdriver for backup. Sure would be a lot less expensive.

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  45. Walt Avatar

    One more for the self proclaimed “gun expert”.
    Which is “more deadly” Mzzzz.”jon”? AR15 or AR10? Can you tell the difference?(have you even paid attention?)
    Are ALL AR style weapons the caliber? Any more “deadly” than the next?

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  46. Walt Avatar

    LOL “jon”. Keep digging that hole. “kill rate” the next Proggy terminology to go by.

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  47. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    Lotta backpedaling going on! Go back and read my original post. Your response is is pretty much like mine. None of these weapons is any more deadly than the next. Some will kill a lot more people in a shorter span of time though.

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  48. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1123pm – I think you just dished out another dollop of your inpenetrable logic. Wherever have I stated that young people “expressing their views in public is not (permitted) because they are immature”? Do you just make this stuff up and then ascribe it to someone else, or is there some more complex process at work here for which some treatment may be available? 😉
    jons 833am – Mr smith, you have a dismal record of understanding, let alone penetrating, any logic that I use. Your current comment now refers to and stands against some “logic” (your quotes) you ascribe to me which is non-existent, since I don’t have a 903 AM or PM. Perhaps it was another one of my pithy repartees that confused you, and which you meant to address.

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  49. Paul Emery Avatar

    scott writes
    “12 year olds used to walk around with fire arms and no massacres occurred. ”
    So Scott in you’re view it’s OK for 12 yearolds to personally purchase and possess AR 15’s.

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