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George Rebane

RR has always taken the position that keeping certain facilities (public and private) as β€˜gun free zones’ has been and continues to be a terribly misguided policy.  There are millions of CCW permit holders in America who regularly carry, and keeping these folks out of β€˜gun free zones’ has demonstrated that the only ones who then do take guns into such facilities are criminals, terrorists, the mentally disturbed, …, and occasionally LE officials when called.

After the recent Parkland, Florida massacre the gun control debate has now expanded to doing something real to prevent and/or mitigate such future massacres by arming selected school staffers with concealed carry firearms.  President Trump has now indicated his backing for this sane policy which is already quietly practiced in multiple school districts across the land.  Giving credit where due, NPR this morning broadcast an interview with a Texas school superintendent about schools in his district which have practiced an armed staff policy for some time with the full support of parents and voters.  (The liberal interviewer did do his best to ask a couple of gotcha questions to which the superintendent had no problem supplying civil and utterly reasonable answers.)


Private schools for the elites have fielded an armed defense presence for years.  These are implemented surreptitiously so that there is no obvious evidence of the school being viewed by anyone, including the students, as either an armed camp or a fortress under imminent siege.  That is the (Israeli) approach which is now returning as a national debate/discussion – the fielding of trained CCW staff and/or volunteers in school districts that so choose to defend their kids against wanton massacres.

As an analog, consider armed air marshals who have been flying on select flights for years.  When that policy was implemented, airline hijackings stopped immediately with the historically tragic exception of 9/11 on which no legal gun happened to be present, and boxcutter wielding terrorists were able to kill thousands.  Imagine airline travel with CCW holders able to fly with their concealed firearms.

The two-part proposition I have is – remove all laws and legal strictures that would prevent 1) CCW permit holders to carry everywhere (with some obvious controlled locations excepted), and 2) implement the β€˜Israeli solution’ of CCW armed staff in schools. I commend its consideration to RR readers.

[update]  It is hard to contemplate the abysmal mentality of progressives in light of Moonbeam signing into law a stricture that removes the last opportunity for California's school districts to readily protect their students from wanton walk-in massacres.  In my universe the man is a certified idiot or the most evil cynical politician on record to do that during the ongoing national debate on arming school staffs – already implemented in sparse practice across the country and until today was also in California – which is the ONLY practical remedy and alternative to dedicated teachers shielding their students from the killer’s bullets with their own bodies.  And note that more evidence continues to roll in that government really was the problem in the Parkland massacre as armed deputies cowered outside listening to the killer continuing to murder and maim students and teachers inside the school.  β€˜We’re from the government, and we’re here to help.’

[26feb18 update]  Mr George Boardman’s column in the 26feb18 Union (here) is a sad but yet again a revelatory commentary on his and the progressives’ beliefs.  The short version is that he

  1. Does the obligatory vilification of the NRA;
  2. Demonstrates his total misunderstanding of β€˜Par Force’;
  3. Thinks arming school personnel (the β€˜Israeli solution’) is ridiculous;
  4. And recommends that students start wearing armor to school (vests and helmets).

Not much can be said about his pot shots at the NRA, for the Left it is a rite of confirming membership in good standing, and must be expressed whenever an intellectual of that ilk considers to whom Republicans are beholden, any discussion of firearms and the 2nd Amendment, and, of course, everything that comes under β€˜gun violence’ (save the decades long and ongoing slaughter in the Democrat run urban ghettos).

Through either ignorance or political cynicism, he misconstrues par force to be equivalent to β€œmutual assured destruction”.  Apparently impervious to its purpose of assuring that a popular grievance gets aired before local authorities can β€˜black out’ the message that may or not motivate others to join in the protest.  Mr Boardman is an intelligent man, so I give it an 80/20 tradeoff between his agenda-driven cynicism and ignorance.

He would rather have crazed killers be the only ones on campus with guns than arm trained staff to provide a defense that would immediately halt the massacre.  His reasoning – and here’s where that 20% favoring ignorance comes in – is that it’s better for teachers to sacrifice themselves and shield students momentarily with their bodies than engage the killer with a legal weapon.  Why?  (seatbelts please)  β€œStudents could find themselves in a crossfire between two people who aren’t very good shots.”  Not only is Mr Boardman ignorant of the reasoning taught by the Rev Bayes, but he has no concept of the dynamics and psychology that dominate an unexpected firefight when the shooter suddenly realizes that he is being engaged by another armed person.  The last thing the killer will then do is calmly continue executing students.

And the solution of having students start wearing bullet-proof garments and Kevlar helmets in America’s schools takes the discussion to a new level enquiry, the advisability of which (sans the levity it naturally evokes) should be considered under a separate commentary, one which I would invite Mr Boardman to contribute.

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112 responses to “Legal guns in schools (updated 26feb18)”

  1. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    WAlt
    Hopelessly naive but who cares. It makes him feel good.

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  2. Walt Avatar

    Paul.. Just where is the NRA gun store?
    But some history for the vastly ill informed.
    “The National Rifle Association of America (NRA) is an American nonprofit organization that advocates for gun rights.[5][6][7]
    Founded in 1871, the group has informed its members about firearm-related bills since 1934, and it has directly lobbied for and against legislation since 1975.[8] It has been called the oldest continuously operating civil rights organization and the “largest and best-funded lobbying organization in the United States”.[9]
    Founded to advance rifle marksmanship, the modern NRA continues to teach firearm competency and safety. The organization also publishes several magazines and sponsors competitive marksmanship events.[8] Membership surpassed 5 million in May 2013.[5]”
    But Proggy BS pulled out of one’s South end is what passes for evidence these days.

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  3. Bill Tozer Avatar

    β€œPresident Trump told a gathering of the nation’s governors Monday that he would have heroically run into the high school where a gunman armed with an assault rifle was massacring 17 people β€” even if he had been empty-handed.”
    Amazing. Is there anything that man Trump cannot do? He aint’t no Coward of Nevada County, that’s for sure.
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/donald-trump-apparently-stopped-a-mugging-in-1991-resurfaced-report-says_2031210.html

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  4. Walt Avatar

    Let me use LIB logic, and their attack tactics.
    Ca. Leftists make it easy for the school shooters. They satand behind their beloved gun free zones, knowing full well that’s where mass killings can happen. They need the dead bodies.
    Jerry and the kids made sure teachers can’t be armed..BY LAW.
    And it was just last OCT. Brown signed that law.
    http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/education/article179209356.html

    Come Jan. 1, those guns have to stay elsewhere.
    Gov. Jerry Brown on Saturday signed legislation preventing school districts from allowing non-security employees to carry guns on campus. Folsom Cordova Unified is the only large district in the Sacramento region that has allowed people with concealed weapons permits to be armed, along with a handful of districts around California that include Kingsburg Joint Union High School District in Fresno County.”
    And then what does do? Decriminalizes the use of a gun in a crime.
    “At the end of the latest legislation session Gov. Jerry Brown (D) signed a bill removing mandatory enhanced sentencing for criminals who use guns in the commission of their crimes.
    He did this at the same time that he signed other legislation making it illegal for teachers to be armed on K-12 campuses for self-defense.
    Liberal logic–teachers are not allowed to shoot back if under attack and criminals face no mandatory sentence enhancement for using a gun in carrying out an attack.
    Assembly Bill 424 made it illegal for teachers to be armed for self-defense and Senate Bill 620 removed the mandatory enhancement for using a gun for crime. SB 620 removed the mandatory enhancement from the Penal Code and placed it at the discretion of the judge presiding over the case.
    Progressives need body counts.

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  5. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1117am – I joined the NRA in my 20s and am a Life Member. I have followed and supported that organization for over half a century. I don’t think that you and yours have even the slightest clue about the purpose and work of the NRA. Because your aim is to prevent civilian possession and use of firearms, you correctly see the NRA as one of the stalwart institutions standing between you and achieving that goal. Therefore, it must be vilified within and with all the teachings of Saul Alinsky.

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  6. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Yes there is something Trump cannot (or did not) do Bill And that was serve in the military-bone spur deferment. But is claims to be capable 50 years later to run down a 19 year old killer with an assault rifle. Wow. Next we’ll see Trump action dolls.

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  7. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    Lobbyists for products create a need for their products and secure government assistance to promote their products.
    Here’s some support for my view:
    “Since 2005, the gun industry and its corporate allies have given between $20 million and $52.6 million to it through the NRA Ring of Freedom sponsor program. Donors include firearm companies like Midway USA, Springfield Armory Inc, Pierce Bullet Seal Target Systems, and Beretta USA Corporation. Other supporters from the gun industry include Cabala’s, Sturm Rugar & Co, and Smith & Wesson.
    The NRA also made $20.9 million β€” about 10 percent of its revenue β€” from selling advertising to industry companies marketing products in its many publications in 2010, according to the IRS Form 990.
    Additionally, some companies donate portions of sales directly to the NRA. Crimson Trace, which makes laser sights, donates 10 percent of each sale to the NRA. Taurus buys an NRA membership for everyone who buys one of their guns. Sturm Rugar gives $1 to the NRA for each gun sold, which amounts to millions. The NRA’s revenues are intrinsically linked to the success of the gun business.
    The NRA Foundation also collects hundreds of thousands of dollars from the industry, which it then gives to local-level organizations for training and equipment purchases.
    This shift is key to understanding why a coalition of hunters, collectors and firearm enthusiasts takes the heat for incidents of gun violence, like the shooting massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School, rather than the companies that manufacture and market assault weapons.”
    http://www.businessinsider.com/gun-industry-funds-nra-2013-1

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  8. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    So Paul Emery you are older than Trump. Tell us what you would personally do if you were that deputy that did not go in.
    And GeorgeR has smacked down the liberal mantra against the NRA which proves you know zip about them.

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  9. Bill Tozer Avatar

    Oh Punchy,
    Don’t forget the money I just sent in to the NRA for a two year membership. I am now a member for the first time in my life and it’s money well worth spent. It was a bargain and I did it solely because of people exactly like you. I give you all the credit. Kudos to the Popinjay.

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  10. Walt Avatar

    Not going back to the musket Paul. Deal with it.
    But go right ahead and pound your sward into plow shires.
    Those who do, usually wind up growing crops for those who didn’t.
    The history teachers time was a waste on you.
    BTW. NO “assault weapons” are sold to the general public.
    Cosmetics does not an “assault weapon” make.
    So glue a “manly” looking marital aid to your mule’s forehead, and you have a LIB Unicorn. It “looks” like one, so it MUST be.

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  11. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Bill Tozer | 26 February 2018 at 12:27 PM
    I re-upped for two years as well Bill! I haven’t beeen a member for 20 years!

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  12. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Todd
    How does Georges “smacking down the liberal mantra…” connect with me not knowing ZIP? Is George some kind of soothsayer or something who expresses the definitive truth whenever he speaks?
    What would I do if I were that Deputy? Weird question Todd. Don;t know the details of the situation but if I was armed and trained as a peace officer I would have done what I could to stop the killing.

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  13. Walt Avatar

    ” I don’t know the details”… Now that’s rich…..
    A NON trained person stopped a mass killing at a church.
    So much for “news man”‘s grasp on the news.

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  14. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    What do you know Walt that isn’t in the media?

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  15. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Well Paul Emery thanks for telling us you would do he same thing you criticized Trump for saying he would do. Glad to see you are now a Trumpster.

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  16. Walt Avatar

    Plenty. How bout YOU!!??

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  17. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1218pm – “the main purpose of the NRA is to sell guns.” is your statement that supports my conclusion about your knowledge of the NRA. The NRA, as the nation’s 2nd Amend stalwart, of course supports the manufacturers of the items the ownership of which it promotes. Deducing that corollary behavior is not rocket science, but itself provides no evidence of its “main purpose”. There are many more affinity organizations that promote the manufacture, purchase, and use of things that give pleasure or fill a needed function for its members. None of them, most certainly according to the members, exist for the “main purpose” of their associated manufacturers. But I most certainly understand why holding fiercely to that cynical belief about the NRA gives great comfort to you and yours.
    BTW, I would gladly introduce you to some real NRA members, of which there are a legion in these parts, so you can see that these are the most sane, caring, and safety-minded people about guns that you will ever meet.

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  18. Walt Avatar

    Hearing that so-called Sheriff speak, he sound more like Stalin.
    Hitler would love the guy.

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  19. Bill Tozer Avatar

    Finally, an article about legal guns on school grounds with solutions. Hint: simple but not easy.
    First, the problem:
    β€œFurthermore, the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA) requires that education to take place in the β€œleast restrictive environment” possible. It also provides special protections for disabled students facing expulsion, requiring school officials to follow special procedures that include a hearing to determine if the misconduct was directly related to the student’s disability. If that is the case, a special education team must develop, or modify, a behavioral intervention plan.
    With regard to violent students like the perpetrator in Parkland, these laws are problematic. Yet they are only half the problem. A 2017 column by Jeffery Benzing addressed the other half, noting that Broward County β€œused to rank No. 1 at sending students to their state’s juvenile justice system,” he explained. β€œThe stats troubled Broward County leaders, and they responded with a bold solution: Lower arrests by not making arrests.”
    Broward compiled a list of 12 misdemeanor offenses no longer requiring police notification. They included criminal mischief, vandalism and non-violent incidents involving alcohol, marijuana or drug paraphernalia. The program was championed as a move away from a β€œzero tolerance” policy critics labeled a β€œschool to prison pipeline.”
    It gets worse. β€œOne particular motivation behind programs like Broward County’s was the pressure from multiple sources to reduce the statistical disparity between black and Hispanic student arrests on one hand and white and Asian student arrests on the other,” reveals columnist Jack Cashill. Based solely on his last name, the Parkland killer β€œbecame a statistical Hispanic,” Cashill adds. β€œAs such, authorities at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland had every reason not to report his troubling and likely criminal behavior to the police.”
    Broward wasn’t the only county under pressure. In 2014, the Obama administration sent out a Dear Colleague letter whose subject was the Nondiscriminatory Administration of School Discipline. Issued by the DOJ and the DOE’s Office of Civil Rights, the letter made it clear that an aggressive β€œdisparate impact” approach would be taken with regard to disciplining minority students.
    In short, schools that meted out a β€œdisproportionate number” of disciplinary measures to minority students, relative to their percentage of the school population, could be charged with discrimination under Title IV and Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
    Thus, the Obama administration and Broward County officials made sure many kids couldn’t even be disciplined, much less arrested, for egregious behavior.
    Read more for the solution.
    https://patriotpost.us/articles/54369-progressive-policies-put-schools-at-risk

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  20. Bill Tozer Avatar

    Fish @ 12:44 pm
    I chose the pocketknife as my gift. Concealed in my pocket. A man or daughter cannot have too many pocket knives. Figured the NRA camo bag might be too triggering, as the gold lettered NRA shooter’s hat. What did you choose?
    Darn. Just found out if I had joined up at Cabela’s, I would have got a $25 gift certificate.

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  21. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Toes… where are the details about Cabelas sweetening the pot? I do suspect the full frontal assault on the NRA is going to be driving their membership numbers higher.
    No, Paul, the NRA does not exist to sell guns. The NRA exists because their membership wants to be able to buy guns and to use them lawfully and safely.

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  22. Bill Tozer Avatar

    Gregory. Sorry, old news. It was NRA Weekend, ending Feb. 14th, Valentine’s Day and Fla school shooter day. Again, sorry for getting your hopes up.
    https://www.nrablog.com/articles/2016/2/cabelas-hosts-nra-weekend-february-13-14/

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  23. Walt Avatar

    Me neither. Watch how fast the little bastards learn respect.

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  24. Xeno Avatar
    Xeno

    I can’t wait until the lunch lady, the janitor and the AV guy are all carrying guns in schools. How many will die in friendly fire incidents?
    DEA agent shoots self in foot trying to teach about guns,
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP6UvNgbqIA

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  25. Walt Avatar

    Now how the hell did that happen?

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  26. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Bill Tozer | 26 February 2018 at 02:37 PM

    Oh Bill…..worrying about triggering people is so far down my list and I have a 20 year old range bag that’s earned it’s retirement.
    I think you can guess.which I requested!

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  27. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Gregory
    They take huge amounts of money-millions- from gun manufactures whose business it is is to sell guns. The NRA increases demands for guns with their frantic 2nd amendment marketing that has accelerated the market for guns. A reasonable position as to age limits for purchasing guns that can produce the carnage seen in Florida is not even within the consideration of the zealots that act as their spokespersons.

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  28. Walt Avatar

    So what Paul? How much has the fear mongering of AGW raked in?
    Then raise the voting age to 21 If an 18 year old is incompetent to own a gun, the same applies to voting.

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  29. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 26 February 2018 at 04:24 PM
    A reasonable position as to age limits for purchasing guns that can produce the carnage seen in Florida is not even within the consideration of the zealots that act as their spokespersons.

    What are you whining about? You were the one making the unorganized militia argument last week.
    Unorganized militia = 17 years old to purchase in Punchyland!

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  30. Walt Avatar

    How bout cars Paul? Plenty of kids get killed every day in cars.
    No driving till 21? Think the kids will go for it?

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  31. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    0 did more for gun sales than the NRA ever could have @424 ya po’ ol’ putin party parrot! πŸ˜‰

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  32. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The po’ ol’ fakenewsmans new poster girl for constitutional rights-
    U.S.
    Florida Shooting Survivor Emma Gonzalez Gains Nearly Twice As Many Twitter Followers As The NRA
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-shooting-survivor-emma-gonzalez-133302310.html
    Oh well twitter has spoken right? πŸ˜‰

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  33. Xeno Avatar
    Xeno

    Mother and daughter try to shoot it out with store robber only to get pistol whipped after robber takes gun away from mother after getting shot. Not the best advertisement for wanna be self defense heros.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/mother-daughter-shoot-oklahoma-armed-184729678.html

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  34. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The po’ ol’ fakenewsman should get his priorities right! Ban the tub!
    There are about 110,000 annual bathtub and shower-related accidents in the U.S. each year, per the Consumer Product Safety Commission, and over 75 percent of fatalities from these injuries happen in children under the age of 5. An average of 10 people die each day from unintentional drownings (including in swimming pools and in the bathtub), per data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Those water-related incidents that are not fatal can still cause severe brain damage that can lead to memory problems, learning disabilities, and the permanent loss of basic functioning.
    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/bollywood-star-sridevi-kapoor-drowned-bath-cause-death-common-youd-think-181539868.html
    πŸ˜‰

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  35. Bill Tozer Avatar

    Well, while we are at it, let’s increase the age of the right to assemble to 21. We all know how dangerous those Antifas are when they come out of Mommie’s basement.
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/26/texas-antifa-mental-illness/
    Think Punchy is beginning to realize it ain’t going to happen. Yo Punchy, how about we mess with unlawful search and seizure Constitutional protections while we are at it. Your vans look mighty suspicious, not to mention that gawd awful carbon footprint they create.
    Ok, ok, ok. You win. We will toss ya a tiny bone if it keeps you quite, you toothless gum dog, you. No bump stocks. There, that’s your pacifier to suck on. You did something to save school childre! Congrats. Boy, that really stings like a bee. Bump stocks are just an accessory anyway, Cherish the moment.
    Someday the libbies will learn that all arguments begin with the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Someday is a’coming.

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  36. Walt Avatar

    Duffus”X” misses the best part of the story. The women filled him full of holes. Size matters. That mouse gun they had wasn’t up to the job. Not a bullet left in the gun.
    Nice try,, princess..

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  37. Bill Tozer Avatar

    The Sheriff…er….school resource officer…..down at Coward County was carrying a Glock 40. That is a nice lob that would have dropped the shooter to the ground, especially if it hit him in the back of the head. Same for the Xeno’s Oklahoma robber.
    Maybe we could start a Go Fund Me Page for the mother-daughter team so they can have matching rose colored hand guns with a wee bit more powerful projectile. The robber may not have been killed, but he certainly would not be feeling too good.

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  38. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Xeno | 26 February 2018 at 04:56 PM
    Yeah ladies…..just lie back and β€œThink of England” so Emo can feel good about his political positions!

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  39. fish Avatar
    fish

    …..and here we go!

    NOBODY WANTS TO BAN GUNS YOU PARANOID WINGNUT! Also: House Democrats introduce bill prohibiting sale of semi-automatic weapons.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/house-democrats-introduce-bill-prohibiting-sale-of-semi-automatic-weapons/article/2650087

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  40. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Ok, so the perp is perforated multiple times and is in jail after their fight right? And you think the ladies lost?? @456?? What a maroon. I agree guys, a .40 or a good ol’ .45 would have ended the matter quicker and saved us the cost of a trial. πŸ˜‰

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  41. Bill Tozer Avatar

    and here we go.
    205 semi-auto firearms banned, most of them handguns, and of course, the fire sticks. Wrap it up real purdy like, put a big bow on it, and call it an β€œassault weapons ban” Priceless. Wonder why they did not call it the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. Oh yeah, they already used that one.
    And here we go…..
    The Popinjays and hand wringers still have not told us how we will protect our kids inside a school. Not talking about fights and bullying and snide remarks or drugs. Nope.
    How do we do it? Nobody but nobody that posts here from whatever political persuasion they may be ever thinks about walking into a school and shooting students. We all want the killings to STOP. Stop the killings. Ok. Our kids go to movies, street fairs, music venues, and hang out downtown or in parks or worse. We can’t protect them everywhere they go.
    But, if we as a nation can focus just on the classrooms, hallways and grounds of primary education public schools across America, then we might….might be able to do it. How do we protect our kids from crazies inside the school buildings? How? Shoot back is how. There inside the school, there at the school, there in the place the killings are happening. Not in DC, not in the State Capitol, but in the classrooms were the killing fields are.
    The ONLY thing stopping us from protecting our school kids and putting a stop to these horrific killings is progressive ideology….. and the political will to do it……of which therein lies the problem.

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  42. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    So, the Broward Coward had a Glock with 15+ round magazines?
    Maybe it’ll go on sale… should go for a good price. Ain’t never been fired and was only dropped once.

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  43. Scenes Avatar
    Scenes

    billt@6:47 Huh. Here we go indeed.
    https://cicilline.house.gov/sites/cicilline.house.gov/files/images/Assault_Weapons_Ban_of_2018.pdf
    Do I see grandfathering in there? (plus the mandatory Mini-14 exception by omission that these laws always seem to have).
    Holy cats, do you know how many rifles are going to get sold if they publicize this law much?…which is of course the main point of the exercise. The boutique AR-15 manufacturers have to be tooling up as we speak.
    This strikes me as potentially a good idea. The Russian thing went nowhere, BLM fizzled out, the women-getting-groped fuss has largely died off, so the gun thing might have some legs. Outrage is addictive and if you can steer it to political power, so much the better. The need for Green Libertarians to run your life is nearly infinite.
    I do wish that people would quit grasping at the 10 round magazine magic bullet (so to speak). It’s as stupid as the flash suppressor/pistol grip/extendable stock/etc. cosmetic bans. The problem is that stupid sells.

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  44. Scenes Avatar
    Scenes

    re: me@7:21PM
    Hang on. Now that I think of it, this is kind of an annual bill isn’t it. Some kind of yearly DIFI extravaganza.
    I suppose the difference is a few more co-sponsors, you can wave it around like a flag a bit more than usual, and it never comes to a vote.

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  45. Bill Tozer Avatar

    Yep Scenes. Pussy hats are sooo last year. When the Russian thang broke out, I knew it would be sticking around for months, maybe years. Guess all good things must come to an end. But throwing yourselves in front of our children does have legs. Let the political posturing oozing with incredulous moral outrage begin anew. Perfect script, like a Disney movie. Has the innocence good guys, the mean vile villain, and the battle for good over evil with the foe vanquished and they lived happily ever after.
    On a humanitarian note, I certainly hope for the sake of mercy that the CBC does not hold another one of those catered sit-ins under the Rotunda. Last time they did that it was too painful to watch. Seeing old John Lewis sitting on the floor cross legged and stuck and trying to get his legs to work so he could could untangle himself and get up to pee was just too pathetic to look at. I was deeply saddened for the civil rights icon. It ripped me up and I ain’t quite ready to have my heart torn asunder again.

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  46. Scenes Avatar
    Scenes

    re: DonB@9:56PM
    A quote from the article:
    “Moody said, β€œUtah becomes the poster child for why economic and social factors are interrelated … there are not enough young people in our states to maintain current population levels, except in a state like Utah,” which is highly successful economically.”
    As an aside, I’m always curious about that attitude. A large problem is that there’s not enough jobs, especially lesser skilled jobs. You can see the results of subsistence welfare systems wherever they occur (which makes me wonder about the wisdom of guaranteed basic incomes) and work appears to be the best way out.
    Of course, ‘Moody’ is quick to ignore that Utah’s better point might be that it is full of Mormons, not that they have more children.
    Solution? You need more young people to compete over the jobs. Not enough young people? Import millions of them. I suppose you can argue that more people might imply more jobs, at least in the policing sphere, but it looks more like a supply and demand imbalance to me.
    The funny thing about population growth as a method for improving an economy is the endgame. At some point, you stack people like cordwood before the inevitable die-off occurs. Perpetual growth in population is an incredibly short-sighted plan.

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