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Sandbox – 25jan18

25 January 2018

[Trump is a hit in Davos despite his strong but stunningly accurate language calling out "shithole countries" which we here have abbreviated into a more decorous SHC. Now a correspondent informs that SHC should, perhaps, be made into the even more palatable TWN. TWN? why that's a "Turd-World Nation" of course. But now we can also examine the Europeans' reaction to Trump's next obvious truth that his administration will promote 'America First' policies, as if protesting Italy would put, say, France first. gjr]

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209 responses to “Sandbox – 25jan18”

Scenes

26 January 2018

BillT: “Nice card Trump threw on the table. They will reject it and the sparks will be flying.”
Those were exactly my thoughts. DACA is the latest fuss, but the desired endgame is unlimited immigration from the Third World. Nothing less.
So, Mr. Trump makes an initial bid which gives Team Blue absolutely everything they are yelling about currently. But it seals up the rest of the situation (wall, chain immigration, lottery, etc.). It absolutely won’t be taken as a deal, but there probably are some folks on that side of the aisle who really want DACA (like a DACAn), and don’t care so much about the rest of it. You potentially are driving a wedge here.
Really all Trump has to do to make a deal fail is to make The Great Wall of America dependent on it. It’s not all that expensive, and according to all sorts of pro-migration wall ‘experts’ it is useless, but it’s a large political statement that CAN NOT BE ALLOWED. So, you present a series of reasonable deals with The Wall, and the deals can be constructed to make Team Blue look unreasonable. Pretty brilliant.

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Walt

26 January 2018

“jon” back to making things up. Yes, even you have “paid for it”.
Take your “date” out for dinner and drinks? Yes, you “paid for it”.
Got that lovely lady some jewelry? Go ahead and tell us you didn’t have a preconceived “outcome”. Didn’t get any? I bet you were a little peeved non the less. ( Yes.. you pay for it… ONE way,, OR another.)
At least with the “business” lady, you know what your getting and for how much, and get down to business muy pronto.

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Todd Juvinall

26 January 2018

Boardman?
Boardman?
Boardman?
Thought so.

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Bill Tozer

26 January 2018

Comment appropriated from Ruminations, update. Nobody commented on it anyway. Replay: Second verse same as the first.
“Good timing.
It was 20 years ago today Bubba shaked his finger at us all and said “You listen to me and listen good. I did not commit sexual harassment with THAT woman, Miss Lewinsky. It was consensual. I did commit sexual harassment with that woman over there…and that woman sitting in front, and that woman in the back.”
Posted by: Bill Tozer | 26 January 2018 at 05:46 AM
Oh yeah, the intro.
Nor does it mean that objectification is “misogynistic.”
https://patriotpost.us/opinion/53626-male-sexual-nature-a-primer-for-the-college-educated

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Bill Tozer

26 January 2018

Well, now that the Left has snatched away from us Righties our sacred very moral Victorian morals, they are stuck with that albatross around their necks, I feel free from that heavy Ozzie and Harriet 50 lbs garbage bag we were lugging everywhere we went. . Free at last, free at last. Now I can shack up with any shank. And do bad things with the houseplants in front of a fine witness with abandon. The Lefties can carry that white rural burden. I am done. Through . Their turn in the penalty box. Phew, I feel better.
Finally I can talk candidly. I like the women Trump is surrounding himself with. The DHS Nielsen, Nikki, Betsy Education Secretary, and lots of ‘nail ya to the wall’ types. Afterall, they are the reason Trump is in the White House. Duh. But, there is something about Sarah…..
Oh Sarah, that is one Gal every American in the land can be proud of. Stands her ground and goes toe to toe with all the unhinged screeching chattering teeth. Loved how she told Jimmy Acosta to sit down and shut his sh*thole. Then when he doth protested too much, she kicked his sorry, yet quite animated, behind out of the room. Aha! You go girl.
There is just something about Sarah. Bet she goes home and late at night when everything is calm, she, to quote Dylan, “cries just like a little girl.” And in the morning she acts just like a woman, and she talks just like a woman. Fat shaming and saying she don’t know how to bake a peacon pie is all they got. They think she and all you Far Righties are trailor trash. They are drowning men and women grasping at straws.
Did notice just yesterday Cher was mocking Sarah’s Tom Boy outfits and telling Sarah she should dress more like….like Cher, so she too could look like a slut.

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Walt

26 January 2018

OK ECO gang,, you guys now have a problem.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-lake-michigan-water-clarity-20180126-story.html
““Clearer is not necessarily better,” said Robert Shuchman, co-director of the Michigan Tech Research Institute. “Clearer water means less phytoplankton in the water column, and they’re the basic building block in the food web. The idea is, the little fish eat algae, and the bigger fish eat the little fish.
“There are some folks out there now that think Lake Michigan and Huron could become ecological deserts from a fishing standpoint. The food web could totally collapse because you don’t have the various organisms you need to sustain it.” “

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George Rebane

26 January 2018

To our liberal friends – what does it mean when the claim is that NC people in general are for MJ, yet no individuals want MJ operations in their vicinity?
Do the MJ proponents have an idea how such aggregate vs individual preferences are to be resolved?

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Walt

26 January 2018

I recall a curtain Grass Valley city “official” who made sure a homeless shelter didn’t wind up in HIS neighborhood. But it was fine for someone else’s.. Just say’n. Did I mention he was a Lefty?

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Paul Emery

26 January 2018

George
Is that the same as when so called property rights advocates are leading the charge against Marijuana cultivation?

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Walt

26 January 2018

Really want to go there Paul?

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George Rebane

26 January 2018

PaulE 558pm – I’m sorry Paul, did you answer my 532pm?

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George Rebane

26 January 2018

“America is roaring back, and now is the time to invest in the future of America.” preached President Trump at a speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos.
“preached”??!! Three guesses, is that a leftwing or rightwing or mid-road representation of Trump’s appearance in Davos?

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Scenes

26 January 2018

Paul: “Is that the same as when so called property rights advocates are leading the charge against Marijuana cultivation?”
Ignoring that that statement is nothing like a response to a question, I’d say that it’s different.
Cultivation is more like zoning laws for industry. The act of doing it is kind of a nuisance just due to the physical activity of the business. Think wrecking yard.
Marijuana retail is more of a public nuisance problem. The type of product implies a sleazier clientele than other retail companies (the same as liquor stores, bars, etc.) regardless of the hand waving about cancer victims and the like.

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Walt

26 January 2018

Paul. When can Suzie’s adult book store set up shop? There in a big empty storefront on the main drag of Nevada City. It would fit right in with the local culture as well. What do ya’ think?
Scenes made a good point.

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Bill Tozer

26 January 2018

Why don’t they put the biomass energy making kiln, some head shops, Marihuana edibles (and homemade chocolate brie) stores, a cluster of small retail Marihuana boutique shops, and the dirty book store all under the roof of the old big two story Broad St. Furnishing building. Parking in the rear and behind the National. Put a peek show in the front windows with one of those antiquated and period brass contraptions you drop quarters in from the sidewalk and the models get off the couches and start moving their hips with locally made hemp hula-hoops. Why not? Perfect size, perfect location, right at the entrance to town, our little adult playground nestled in the foothills of the Sierra Nevada.
There’s no schools within 600 feet. Besides, it makes it easier for the beloved local 70 year old virgin to sample the wares and buy a Rubber Judy to take home with. Or leave her in the passenger seat for those trips to Frisco when the diamond lane looks like the best lane to be in…by far. On stop shop. Just like Amerstam.

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Walt

26 January 2018

So when does the 30 foot pot leaf get painted on the Del Oro wall?
“Grass” Valley might as well start living up to it’s new meaning.
Pot fest at the fairgrounds?( I better copywrite that on Mon.)

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Don Bessee

26 January 2018

Well what do you expect form an Alynsky trained, chitown pol who had uncle Farakahn and uncle Jeramya Wright’s as mentors?
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2018/01/26/pentagon-obamas-dod-granted-security-clearances-to-contractors-charged-with-pedophilia/
😉

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jon smith

26 January 2018

GR’s thoughts regarding a city sanctioned homeless camp at the bottom of Cement Hill are conspicuously missing. I think it is not much different than a city sanction marijuana courtyard in 7 Hills. How much is enough/too much? Are property rights and citizen’s being violated by these endeavors?
Hmmm – what if said property rights promotors were denied the ability to drain a pond on their land containing an endangered frog or insect?
It’s all in the same pot where NIMBY values cross paths with blatant hypocrisy. How far does does NIMBY cross into personal freedom. Bessee doesn’t want me to eat a pot cookie in my living room even though he has no idea where my living room is.
All of this is part and parcel of the mixed message from the right.

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Don Bessee

26 January 2018

It looks like shug ‘straight outa compton’ knight ain’t gonna ever get out da slam and that’s a good thing.
https://pagesix.com/2018/01/26/two-of-suge-knights-former-lawyers-arrested/
😉

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Don Bessee

26 January 2018

Since the press release has gone out I can say that Sheriff Royal tonight endorsed Bill Smethers for Sheriff at the Miners Inn event. 😉

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George Rebane

26 January 2018

jons 911pm – “GR’s thoughts regarding a city sanctioned homeless camp at the bottom of Cement Hill are conspicuously missing.” Did I overlook an obligated response to someone?
But talking of “city sanctioned homeless camps”, we have more than one much closer (approx 500ft) than “the bottom of Cement Hill”, and it is sanctioned by Nevada City since they own the property, know its occupants, and could care less. How close are they to you Mr smith?

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Gregory

26 January 2018

GR 631pm
The “preached” line is from a “journalist” writing copy at Yahoo! news. Might be no road at all, just a low skilled journalist with a well worn thesaurus.

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Scenes

27 January 2018

re: BillT@8:00PM
That is pretty brilliant. In addition, there’s an impromptu homeless camp (that the police seem to let slide, assuming there’s much in the way of nighttime patrol at all anymore) right in front of the building. You could appoint them to be doormen and passers-out-of-flyers.
Add an Indian casino in the now-missing teepee next door, and you’ve got a good start on a town concept. A City by the Creek fueled on sin and social security checks.
An ageing whiteopia deserves nothing but the best.

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Bill Tozer

27 January 2018

One bombshell that Betsy DeVos dropped in her AEI remarks is that federally imposed performance standards in reading and math — know as Common Core — is “dead” at the Department of Education. Not because of ideology. Because these federal standards demonstrably do not work.
https://patriotpost.us/opinion/53650-trump-acknowledges-national-school-choice-week

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MAGA CoVfefe!!!

27 January 2018

GeorgeR ‘’’Trump is a HIT in Davos despite his strong but STUNNINGLY accurate language’’’… A ‘’’hit’’’??? Yes or no,,, Is this a right wing cheerleader’s representation of Trumps’s Davos appearances???
Trumpski is a ‘’’hit’’’ just as the bearded lady is a ‘’’hit’’’ at the freak show!!!

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Bill Tozer

27 January 2018

Speaking of a hit at the freak show, I point the reader to the above, aka, Exhibit A.

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fish

27 January 2018

Posted by: MAGA CoVfefe!!! | 27 January 2018 at 07:25 AM
Trumpski is a ‘’’hit’’’ just as the bearded lady is a ‘’’hit’’’ at the freak show!!!
Or a man In a sodden adult diaper Dougski……

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Scenes

27 January 2018

A nice little letter to John Podesta.
https://www.scribd.com/document/370089125/Chuck-Grassley-Letter-to-John-Podesta?repost
The wheels of justice hopefully grind finely in the case of Podesta.

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Todd Juvinall

27 January 2018

The two portly soulmates on the libbie blog are trashing GeorgeR again. One knows when a liberal is upset.

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jon smith

27 January 2018

GR 10:33.
If you are talking about the “Wet Hill” camp, it’s almost as close to me as to you. You can see campfires near Hirschmans’ pond almost any night of the week including the dead of summer. Off the ditch trail to the NE below your house is usually good for a few bums too. I stopped walking that trail a few years ago. Its almost as bad as the addicts who pull out at your mailbox cluster or just before the Jacobson’s and Fosters to shoot or light up.
The only reasonable thing we can do is support free homeless services in Auburn or Placerville.

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Mary Wanna

27 January 2018

Posted by: George Rebane | 26 January 2018 at 05:32 PM – the claim is that NC people in general are for MJ, yet no individuals want MJ operations in their vicinity
I responded to this query in my 101pm. When you say, ‘no individuals’ or ‘no one’ wants MJ operations near their house or in their vicinity, surely you don’t assume that because some people have issues in this regard that all residents or business owners are similarly disposed?
I viewed the visual meeting minutes and I did not see a majority of total residents stating they were opposed to MJ businesses.
Of course, NIMBYism is alive in well in many communities.

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Mary Wanna

27 January 2018

Posted by: Bill Tozer | 26 January 2018 at 01:21 PM – If you are truly sorry Mary “hooch in the morning” Wanna, then we will forgive you. Not because of your altered indecipherable gibberish you dump here
Maybe you should count the lines of rambling nonsense you have laid down on just this thread Bill. I think you hold the record for ‘wasted’ cloud space.

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George Boardman

27 January 2018

I got around to seeing “The Post” yesterday, which prompts me to wonder what Peggy Noonan was watching when she wrote the following about the movie in her Wall Street Journal column:
“President Nixon is portrayed as the villain of the story. And that is the opposite of truth. Nixon did not start the Vietnam War, he ended it. His administration was not even mentioned in the Pentagon Papers, which were finished before he took office.”
Nowhere in the movie is the war blamed on Nixon. On at least 3 separate occasions, the war was blamed on his predecessors, mainly Kennedy and Johnson. Nixon was dunned for following in their footsteps because he didn’t want to be the president who lost the war. That’s a long way from blaming him for starting the war.
For all you liberal bashers, Ben Bradlee (Tom Hanks) provides a mea culpa when he admits he compromised his journalism by becoming too close to Kennedy.
When Dr. R first commented on this in December, Goodknight, Steele and some of the other intellectuals who frequent this blog immediately condemned a film they hadn’t seen. Even Dr. R joined in, assuming the usual Hollywood liberal bias infected the film.
Have any of you seen the film since then? If you have, why haven’t you corrected your earlier comments? You wouldn’t want to confuse the easily swayed regulars on this blog.
One more thing: Meryl Streep, who the president has said is “overrated,” gave a great performance, easily eclipsing Hanks. I guess Stormy Daniels is more to Trump’s taste.

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MAGA CoVfefe!

27 January 2018

Dont hold your breathe George,,, I called them on the fake news about the SECRET SOCIETY and got a bowlful of crickets

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Todd Juvinall

27 January 2018

I suggest if you want to see true heroism go see The Darkest Hour. At least they don’t think we have to swallow treasonous American journalist. My money goes to Churchill, and not to Streep.

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George Rebane

27 January 2018

MaryW 1045am – Maybe not ‘all people’, but only the ones near the proposed MJ distribution and grow sites. All the others are perfectly happy to have such facilities located elsewhere. We have yet to see any Nevada City citizens evince an ‘Oh goody, the new MJ store will be right in our neighborhood; how convenient!’
GeorgeB 1118am – Good points Mr Boardman. Please note I did report that the interpretation was in Noonan’s column and not one derived from my seeing the film. And after seeing the film, I may indeed have to correct my assumption that “the usual Hollywood liberal bias infected the film.” Thank you.

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Scenes

27 January 2018

“The only reasonable thing we can do is support free homeless services in Auburn or Placerville.”
Good heavens, a voice of reason. I salute you. I’ll donate to the GoFundMe.
I just assume that 10% of the homeless are people who need and deserve help due to bad circumstances. The other 90% are folks that need to be moved along.
Telling the difference is always the problem in building a safety net, and I can’t say that anyone has found a good recipe.
And yes Green Libertarians, Reagan and something or the other about the mental health system and insane asylums blah blah blah.

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Walt

27 January 2018

OK “Mary”,,grow your dope next door. The wind blows both ways.
The stench from your grow comes my may, Roundup will be on the returning breeze.

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Scenes

27 January 2018

re: George “get offa my lawn” Boardman @ 11:18AM
“I guess Stormy Daniels is more to Trump’s taste.”
Hey, me too. A good looking woman will always outrank someone in legit movies, especially the kind that parlays their fame into political utterances.
There’s a reason they used to bury actors outside the cemetery fence.

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Robert Cross

27 January 2018

In terms of the war in Vietnam and who did what, Kennedy wanted to get out in 1962 (which some conspiracy theories sight as the reason for his assassination) and Johnson escalated the war based on bogus information from the CIA. However, American involvement started just after the French left around 1955, when Eisenhower sent advisors there. At that time, as part of the armistice agreement the country was divided into North and South, one communist and aligned with China and the other capitalist aligned with the US. At the end of a five year respite from conflict there was to be an election with the people deciding whether unification would come under the jurisdiction of the North or the South. It kind of sounds like the American Civil war. When the American backed president of South Vietnam refused to hold elections (and possibly relinquish power) Ho Chi Min invaded the south for breaking the treaty.
The rest is history, whether you like it or not.
So if there is any blame to be thrown around, blame Eisenhower for inserting the US into what was basically a civil war. After the revolutionary war and freedom from French colonialism led by Ho chi Min (Vietnam’s George Washington), the US, in the name of the Domino Theory of fighting communism, moved in to fill the vacuum left by the departure of the French. Not too different than the war on ‘global terrorism.’

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Mary Wanna

27 January 2018

Posted by: George Rebane | 27 January 2018 at 11:49 AM – You might have a different definition of the term ‘neighborhood’ than someone else. Is a neighborhood an area defined by a land use zoning classification? Is a person within 600 linear feet of a MJ business a neighbor? Is a neighborhood a one-block section of a street? Is a person who lives across the freeway but within 600 feet of a MJ business a neighbor?
I think at least a few residents and non-residents alike might have said, “Finally, there is a dispensary within 15 miles of where I live”.

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Mary Wanna

27 January 2018

Posted by: Walt | 27 January 2018 at 12:33 PM – Most of your posts (and those of several others) are borderline useless troll posts.
You have already played your Roundup card.
Maybe that will play in Big Oak Valley or wherever you call home.

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fish

27 January 2018

Posted by: Mary Wanna | 27 January 2018 at 01:19 PM
Most of your posts (and those of several others) are borderline useless troll posts.
Yes…..thank god we have you and Captain Poopy Drawers to restore some semblance of decorum to these threads!
Jeez….get over yourself already Michael.

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Walt

27 January 2018

Good. “Mary” has a memory.(surprising)
It still applies. Now,, is your honey oil lab insured?
They tend to go BOOOM!!! and take out the houses next door.

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Gregory

27 January 2018

George Boardman, just where did I “condemn” the film? No, I didn’t find anything compelling to drive me to see it, but a condemnation?
Had to go looking for a link to the discussion ’cause you didn’t bother. Given the stretch of the truth past the breaking point, I can see why:
http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2017/12/scattershots-29dec17.html?cid=6a00e54f86f2ad883301bb09e3ec79970d#comment-6a00e54f86f2ad883301bb09e3ec79970d
No, I’ve not seen “The Post”. I might someday if it’s on Netflix or Amazon Prime where the loss of time and money spent is not triggered by changing streams. One thing going for it is that Streep is up for Best Actress in the AARP Movies for Grownups awards… we’ll just have to sit on pins and needles for that one.

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Mary Wanna

27 January 2018

Thanks Walt/Fish for making my point.

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Frisch

27 January 2018

I’m still trying to figure out what George has against “The Crown.”

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fish

27 January 2018

Posted by: Mary Wanna | 27 January 2018 at 02:12 PM
There’s no point to be made Michael.
I thought you were at least less stupid than that master of “forced agreement” Punch-E.

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Paul Emery

27 January 2018

So apparently Millions of Americans Believe God Made the pussy grabbing porno star humping Trump President. Must be Gods will right RR contributors? thats accordnt to the new book “God and Donald Trump.” by Stephen Strang.
https://juicyecumenism.com/2017/12/01/book-review-god-donald-trump-stephen-strang/

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fish

27 January 2018

Steven Frisch says:
January 27, 2018 at 8:16 am
BTW, if you look at that chart in the Axios link the Obama increase started almost 15% below the 0% line in March while Trump started at the 0% line, so in reality Obama’s increase was 50% or twice as ‘big’ as Trumps. I wonder if he has that chart on the wall of his sterile work free Oval Office
Still worshiping the crease in Obama’s trousers eh Steve? You and David Brooks take turns?
Anyway the future spent 10 Trillion in conjured money to make President Chair Warmer look like an economic genius! That probably has something to do with it! No skin off the childless atheists ass….he and his won’t be around to pick up the tab!

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