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[GregG's last comment in the 5dec17 Sandbox captured the bets made around the Rebane household and at a shindig we had here last night.  It seems that no one believes Sen Frankenstein will go quietly into that good night.  The most money is on his fervent hope that all this sex assault stuff will die down sufficiently in the coming weeks so that he can say 'Just kidding' about making a clean exit from the Senate.  gjr]

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256 responses to “Sandbox – 8dec17”

  1. Bill Tozer Avatar

    Good in depth reporting of just a sampling of fakesnews and their reliable sources. Don’t except a mea culpa coming forthwith if it concerns Trump and the Russians. Like a good water boy on the bench, our Popinjay made sure we all got a nice drink of the punch, each and every time. Can’t wait for the revisionist history.
    At this isn’t even the tip of the iceberg.
    “Think about what this means. It means that at least two – and possibly more – sources, which these media outlets all assessed as credible in terms of having access to sensitive information, all fed the same false information to multiple news outlets at the same time.”
    https://theintercept.com/2017/12/09/the-u-s-media-yesterday-suffered-its-most-humiliating-debacle-in-ages-now-refuses-all-transparency-over-what-happened/
    Fakenews, a small sample:
    -Russia hacked into the U.S. electric grid to deprive Americans of heat during winter (Wash Post)
    -An anonymous group (PropOrNot) documented how major U.S. political sites are Kremlin agents (Wash Post)
    -WikiLeaks has a long, documented relationship with Putin (Guardian)
    -A secret server between Trump and a Russian bank has been discovered (Slate)
    -RT hacked C-SPAN and caused disruption in its broadcast (Fortune)
    -Crowdstrike finds Russians hacked into a Ukrainian artillery app (Crowdstrike)
    -Russians attempted to hack elections systems in 21 states (multiple news outlets, echoing Homeland Security)
    -Links have been found between Trump ally Anthony Scaramucci and a Russian investment fund under investigation (CNN)
    That really is just a small sample. So continually awful and misleading has this reporting been that even Vladimir Putin’s most devoted critics – such as Russian expatriate Masha Gessen, oppositional Russian journalists, and anti-Kremlin liberal activists in Moscow – are constantly warning that the U.S. media’s unhinged, ignorant, paranoid reporting on Russia is harming their cause in all sorts of ways, in the process destroying the credibility of the U.S. media in the eyes of Putin’s opposition (who — unlike Americans who have been fed a steady news and entertainment propaganda diet for decades about Russia — actually understand the realities of that country).

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  2. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Well Todd you sure as hell wouldn’t get elected Supe today. I mean you couldn’t even keep your job at CABPRO a couple of years age and that’s an organization you started.
    Why is it important to you if I have any kids or not? Soes anyone else here care?
    Weird dude this Todd Juvinall.

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  3. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Oh Paul Emery you just crack me up. You spend all day here posting your fake news and criticize others much better than you could ever be. As far a getting elected? Sorry, not interested. I beat you and your ilk numerous times and am now retired. I was always sweet to see you and your pals crying after I whipped them.
    And you are always asking us for private info so you can get a leg up to bash, so I thought you might own up to your lack f experience in family life. You are a sad old fart and lonely. But you made your own problems. What a hoot!

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  4. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    What kind of prying into my personal life have you been doing to determine I am sad and lonely?

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  5. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    I’m not the one who has to resort to a dating service to have any female companionship.

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  6. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Oh Paul Emery, dating service? You just hang out at the bars like always. I understand. And rejection is your middle name. I am having a lot of fun and do not lack for friends as you seem to. Your personal life is on display here with every post you make. You are reaching out for help all the time. Sorry, you are on your own bub.

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  7. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    I get paid to pay music in bars Todd. You spend money there dangling your worm .

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  8. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    that’s it for me today folks. Enjoy this lovely day and rest assured I’ll keep you informed as to relevant news as it breaks.

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  9. Walt Avatar

    While Paul gets paid to sing the blues, a word or two from Paul’s false profit.
    ” California Governor Jerry Brown said the wildfires ravaging the greater Los Angeles area are part of a “new normal” residents can expect due to man-made global warming.”
    I guess Moonbeam refuses to take the word of experts that the weather we are having has jack squat to to with climate”change”.
    Ya’ gotta just bless their little hearts. Whenever the true believers see things not going their way, (like colder than it should be,,,) it’s just “weather”. See? now it’s AGW again.
    Now never you mind the news of snow it Texas.( Nope,, it just don’t happen there dag nabbit…)
    http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/10/jerry-brown-blames-fires-on-global-warming-heres-why-thats-insane/

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  10. Walt Avatar

    Click bait. Don’t bother.
    And “dear leader”? How original.
    Maybe whatshisshits above, can show just makes Trump a Commie?
    Trump has restored freedoms. Reduced regs.. Yup that’s a real Commie Trump is.

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  11. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Don’t alert him. Jeeze we finally get a break from that looney Paul Emery.

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  12. Walt Avatar

    But Todd. It’s his medication time. So I gave it to him.

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  13. Bonnie McGuire Avatar

    Here’s one of Dinesh D’Souza’s interesting political history lessons if you’re interested. Dinesh is a very intelligent observing individual. Love his movies and books.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oWoMPY0Fuvw&feature=youtu.be

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  14. Bill Tozer Avatar

    Classic case of minimizing your own faults/actions and exaggerating the faults of others….to justify one’s behavior. Or, classic case of the hive mentality. Take your pick.
    “The three students were arrested after punching and kicking the white shopkeeper. The 18- and 19-year-old students said that they were racially profiled and that their only crime was trying to buy alcohol with fake identification; the shopkeeper, Allyn Gibson, said the students attacked him after he caught them trying to steal bottles of wine.
    The day after the arrests, hundreds of students protested outside the bakery. Members of Oberlin’s student senate published a resolution saying Gibson’s had “a history of racial profiling and discriminatory treatment.”
    Gibson’s loses thousands of dollars to theft, the lawsuit said. It rejects any accusations of racial bias, pointing to police figures in the past five years that show only six out of 40 adults arrested for shoplifting at the bakery were black.”
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/12/11/oberlin-college-accused-bullying-small-business-over-students-arrests.html
    Money quote and the crux of the problem: “Powerful institutions — including Oberlin College — and their members must follow the same laws as the rest of us.”

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  15. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Franken is the latest of liberal leaning purges from the Democratic Party. Sanders, Feingold, Kucinich, etc… all challenge the leadership in various ways and they were all abandoned or thrown under the bus by the party.
    I wonder why Bill Clinton is being handled with kid gloves on this issue. He is a big time predator.
    Now for the real news.
    How are the Fab Five and Mr Rebane liking the new administration? He is gutting all agencies giving tax cuts to the wealth that are paid for by taking social programs from the poor. He is cuddling up to war criminals in Israel and using dangerous language in diplomatic affairs.
    I bet it must be a relief to know your dead peckers can still work without little blue pills with all the nocturnal emissions going on.

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  16. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    All good for me Ben Emery. Trump is on fire! Great man.

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  17. George Rebane Avatar

    BenE 850am – It’s good to see that you are still healthy and taking notice of our comings and goings. So welcome back Mr Emery, and thanks for your droppings (real contributions to follow?).

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  18. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Cuddling up to war criminals in Israel? Master Emery, have you names to name? So, does that mean you also think the fiction that Jerusalem isn’t the capital of Israel was preferable to the reality?
    I say, young man, your synapses are firing as erratically as ever.

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  19. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Ben… in order for Sanders to be purged from the Democratic Party, wouldn’t he first have to join it?

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  20. Robert Cross Avatar
    Robert Cross

    Making America Great–Trump is on fire, pants on fire.. America’s “good country” rating has dropped from 20th to 25th in just one year. The Good Country Index rates countries based on 35 categories under seven main headings, including science and technology, planet and climate, and prosperity and equality, divided by GDP. By the time Trump is done making America even greater, we ought to be right up there with N. Korea as the hermit kingdom of trump. Good Job! Oh yes, all of the highest ranked “good countries” are those damn socialist commie countries like the Netherlands, Switzerland, Denmark, Finland, etc. Go figure..
    In other news, Republicans are bailing out of the party and now represent only 35% of registered voters.. coincidently about the same as Trump’s approval rating. The die hards remain.
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/good-country-index-humanity-planet_us_5a2e74b2e4b069ec48aed3b6

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  21. Bill Tozer Avatar

    The problem since the election for the Democrat Party is the charge that the leadership is too old, have too much sway, and thus have no bench waiting in the wings. Nancy tried to pacify the more bloistetous left wingers by providing leadership slots to toss them a bone.
    Might explain showing 88 (or 110?) year old Conyers the door. Need to open up a slot for the new breed of leaders. Of course everyone knows it’s a bad idea to greet female staff in your Congressional office donned only in underwear. Everybody but Elevator John., apparently. At least he could have put a shirt on, but maybe he did. Old people often walk around the halls with their fly open…..and occassionally forget their pants.
    Where is Johnnie’s due process???? I thought this was America. You know, a jury of your Comgressional peers. Wonder if the evidence would stand up in court. Shudder the thought.

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  22. Bill Tozer Avatar

    Welcome back Brother Ben. My, you are in fine form this morning. Old peckers? Yep, you called it. We a just a bunch of limp lizards. Did like Bob Dole’s Pepsi commercial with the play on the blue pill. I never haven popped the blue pill….yet. Too afraid of having to go to the ER with a blue veiner that lasts more than 6 hours.
    Peckers? Well, cutting off your pecker does not make you a woman. It’s just makes you a guy who cut his darn pecker off. We all make mistakes, some more painful than others. There are some dickless progressives that post here as well.
    Jerusalem:
    Do as I say, not as I do: “Reports indicate the president will move the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. I wrote him last week to explain why that would be a terrible decision.” —Sen. Dianne Feinstein, who in 1995 voted in favor of legislation
    permitting Trump’s move
    https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913.80726.51560645913/10155256808810914/?type=3&theater

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  23. George Rebane Avatar

    The Good Country Index, indeed! Rating countries has become an ideology-based game because the rating algorithm is totally subjective (nothing wrong with that) and can be made to stack countries this way or that. I have always been swayed most by a much simpler index that measures the desirability of countries – rate them according to how many aliens are trying to get into a country by legally standing in line or illegally crawling under the fence. That kinda takes the bullshit factor out of the equation.

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  24. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Robbie Cross is sure full of lefty propaganda all the time. America is on fire and Trump is the reason. It is a good thing. After eight years of Obama whining and crying and telling us all that the crappy state he created was the new normal, Americans rebelled. We are a great and optimistic people. Democrats and liberals are glum, whiny and cry-babies about most everything. Well except for taking the money of hardworking people and givng it to their buds.
    “God country” ratings? Tell us how many Somalians are trying to get into Finland and Switzerland RobbieC. Or how many Aambians are trying to move to Zinbabwe.

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  25. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    At least the Clinton news network is consistent(ly wrong)!
    http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/11/cnn-walks-back-jeff-sessions-russia-bombshell/
    😉

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  26. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Here is a little something for the po’ ol’ pollhead to munch on for lunch but it might give him indigestion.
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/10/survey-daca-amnesty-low-priority-democrats-swing-voters/
    😉

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  27. Bill Tozer Avatar

    Cuddly Brother Ben
    Oh, the Zionist war criminal thugs controlling our banks and hurting the little people again. The proof is the tax cuts. Q: Where have I heard that before. A: Too many places and times to count.
    Israel criminals and tax cuts. Hmmm. Let’s take it one at a time.
    1) If Palestinians wanted peace, there would be peace. If Israel wanted war, there would be no Palensinians.
    2). If changing tax rates is this dangerous, we should just ban taxes….to be sure.
    https://patriotpost.us/articles/52795
    Calculator time. Heard Fauxahonas got paid 330k-400k/year for teaching one solitary class. Ok, let’s take the low figure. 330k divided by 12 months (more if you use 9 month’s accounting for summer break)….er….$330,000 divided by 12 equals $27,500 a month. Not bad concerning summer recess and only one class. No wonder College is so expensive. Need to mortgage the house to pay for that class.

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  28. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    For your reading pleasure:
    Todd and Walt’s favorite guy might be in trouble is in trouble according to Fox.
    Democrat Doug Jones has a 50 percent to 40 percent lead over Republican Roy Moore in a new Fox News poll released Monday morning — his biggest lead in any public survey of Alabama’s special Senate election.
    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/11/poll-alabama-senate-race-roy-moore-doug-jones-217287?lo=ap_a1

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  29. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    If Palestinians wanted peace, there would be peace. If Israel wanted war, there would be no Palestinians.
    Good one, Toes. Of course, there’s always this gem, attributed to Golda Meir:“Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us”.
    Perhaps B’rer Ben can tell us if he thinks it’s OK to be a Zionist, and if not, why not?

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  30. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    For your reading pleasure:
    Trump continues his historic downward slide in Consensus Polls
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

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  31. Bill Tozer Avatar

    Making America Great Again.
    Oh my. Sarah Hucklebee Sanders just announced that the Afghan in custody for setting off the pipebomb in NYC is in the country as the direct result of chain migration. The sky is falling.
    Chain migration means for ever two graciously given permission to live here equates to 7 coming in. Just the averages.

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  32. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Thanks for showing us why no one believes you press types Paul Emery. On the same page on RCP is a poll showing Moore up by nine (Emerson) and one at a tie (Monmouth). Now try again.
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

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  33. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Report: H.R. McMaster Says Trump Has The Intelligence Of A ‘Kindergartner’
    McMaster bluntly trashed his boss, said the sources, four of whom told BuzzFeed News they heard about the exchange directly from Catz. The top national security official dismissed the president variously as an “idiot” and a “dope” with the intelligence of a “kindergartner,” the sources said.
    https://crooksandliars.com/2017/11/report-hr-mcmaster-says-trump-has?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=idealmedia&utm_campaign=crooksandliars.com&utm_term=68744&utm_content=2155049

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  34. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    So Todd that makes it a tossup right?
    Still the conservative Fox news has your favorite guy Roy Moore down by 10. If YOU can’t trust Fox wjo can you trust.

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  35. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Favorite gut? More fake news from you Paul Emery. Why do you lie so much. Amazing.

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  36. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    I mean Moore doesn’t even have the support of his fellow Alabama Senator Richard Shelby
    “Sen. Richard Shelby says he wants a Republican elected to the Senate on Tuesday to represent Alabama, but that he didn’t vote for GOP candidate Roy Moore in the special election.
    The Alabama Republican said he’s already cast his ballot, and that he chose a write-in candidate.
    “I’d rather see the Republican win, but I’d rather see a Republican write-in. I couldn’t vote for Roy Moore. I didn’t vote for Roy Moore,” Shelby told CNN’s Jake Tapper on “State of the Union……Shelby said on “State of the Union” that he’s not sure who will win the close election race in Alabama, but he added that “the state of Alabama deserves better” than Moore.”
    Moores good enough for Todd and Walt though.
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/10/politics/richard-shelby-roy-moore-sotu-cnntv/index.html

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  37. Generalissmo Covfefe Avatar
    Generalissmo Covfefe

    Okay, I think I understand why Trump looks so bad and acts so weirdly. All those artificial sweeteners are rotting his brain and body.
    http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-drinking-diet-coke-history-633436

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  38. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Is the Fox News Poll a lie Todd?

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  39. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Paul Emery you really have a tin ear and brain. FOX has a poll, Emerson has a poll, Monmouth has a poll, all different by a lot. That is why we don’t give you credence for anything poll show. Are you that dense?
    Moore may win, if he does then the people of Alabama are doing the same thing the people of America did with Trump and all those phony allegations. So get use to more disappointment.

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  40. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Todd
    Are you saying all of the 9 women who accused Moore and the nearly 20 woman who accuse Trump of sexual aggression are liars? That’s around 29 women. That’s what you believe right Todd?

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  41. Bill Tozer Avatar

    Let’s look at this Roy Moore thang. The Judge was removed from office…twice! He is facing allegations of the ick factor…or as some gleefully label it as Pedophilia or child predatation at best. Never mind pedophillia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children, the ick factor remains and has stuck.
    There is no way Moore can win, as evidenced by Punchy’s new friend Fox and particularly Fox Polls. Put a fork in it, done deal.
    But, but, but, consider this. If the good folks of ‘Bama knowingly put Roy Moore in office fully aware that he has been removed from state office twice and the ick factor, what would that say about his opponent????? Hmmm. What will people say?
    Sorta reminds me of another scenario a year ago. Trump’s ratings were about 40% around November, 2016, lowest in the history of our great nation. Put a fork in it. But, somehow Trump with his bottom scraping numbers did the unheard of (as well as the unspeakable) and won the office. Now, what does that say about his opponent. And Hillary clobbered Bernie in the Deep South and then Trump clobbered Hillary in the Deep South.. Go figure.
    Anyway, it’s all just wild speculation of hypotheticals. We have the polls and it’s all over. Some fat lady is singing somewhere as I write this.

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  42. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Got any proof Paul Emery? I don’t care if there is a 100. No proof means something, right?

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  43. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Eye witnesses (victims) speaking on the record are not evidence Todd?

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