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Sandbox – 30nov17

[The Christmas season is nigh – share some cheer and family plans on how the holidays will be spent.  And here is the new spirit of Christmas in OUR White House.  gjr]

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245 responses to “Sandbox – 30nov17”

  1. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    I just watched it on cspan live. The senate has to pass theirs and then they conference. One step closer to tax cuts for Christmas! 😉

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  2. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    @ 4:56
    This was not supposed to happen. First, everybody was told that Trump would be gone by now. The Pubbers would drive in the death nail. Second, the tax bill is DOA, has been DOA, and will always be DOA. Trump is a liar!
    Boy, that Trump is tenacious. He just keeps pounding and pounding and pounding until there is a crack in the castle walls then keeps pounding on the fortress until the walls come tumbling down all around our dear friends on the dark side of the street. Reminds me how Grant took Richmond. U,S, Grant was an uncouth drunkard, but he got the job done. The right tool for the right job at the right time. Righty tightly. Lefty loosely.

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  3. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    moi @ 5:52 pm
    Oh yeah, forgot a message from Biker Bill.
    https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/960013257482230/?type=3&theater
    Get er’ done. Living the dream like a redneck lottery winner. A word of caution. It’s way too soon to take the armor off. It’s going to be a long hard ride with much danger ahead, so best to buckle up….tight. The Dem’s are launching the counter attack as we speak.
    It’s ok to admit you are scared. It’s ok to,say you are frightened. We face a formitable foe.
    https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/958607227622833/?type=3&theater

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  4. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    For your reading pleasure Trump down 30 points in the conservative Rasmussen Poll since Jan 17. Todd note, this is the poll you support:
    Unprecedented negative trend for a first term President. Heading for Bushdom before long.
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history

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  5. Scott Obermuller Avatar
    Scott Obermuller

    Poor Paul – unable to deal with reality, he retreats to his safe space of polls.
    SCOTUS just upheld his travel ban from certain countries and Trump has undone the over-reach of the previous pres to give ‘local control’ back to a couple of western states to protect their own lands in the way in which they would know best.
    LOCAL CONTROL! C’mon, Paul – celebrate! It’s what you claimed you wanted!
    Right? Paul? Hello?

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  6. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Trump down 30 points in the Conservative Rasmussen Poll since Jan 17

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  7. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    You don’t seem to get it do you Walt?

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  8. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Meant for Scott

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  9. Scott Obermuller Avatar
    Scott Obermuller

    What is ‘it’ I don’t get? The American public for the most part has no idea what’s going on. Most of them can’t find their own rear end with both hands. Look at public polls asking Americans about established scientific and political facts. They fail. Trump is POTUS and is dismantling Obama’s hideous legacy. He is getting good conservative judges put in place and has put the rest of the world on notice we will not be patsies any longer. A poll is reality only to the point at which it reflects a real sense of public opinion. I dare Paul to produce proof that he knows what most Americans really think about Trump based on reality. We know that the American news media has already declared that they don’t care about the truth – they just want to get rid of Trump. And they will do anything to get rid of him. At that point, it becomes impossible to say that Americans have any true sense of what reality is since they are spoon fed an admitted false picture.

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  10. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery, still President. And today he gave Utah back 85% of the land Obama and Clinton swiped. As far as I am concerned things are going quite well. And he endorsed Moore today. I bet you pooped your knickers. LOL!

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  11. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Is it just me, or has anyone noticed that suddenly, without fanfare, the Lefties have dropped their favorite buzz words “Russian Collusion” like a bad rash. Reminds me how they dumped “Global Warming” for Climate Change and fled for their dear lives from “liberal” and came back with the yet to be tainted, more benign sounding word “Progressive.” Wonder who stole their 24/7 chant, “Russian Collusion, Russian Collusion, Russian Collusion!” Very odd. They don’t seem to want it back.
    Could it be that Mueller knows exactly what Flynn said to the Russian Ambassador before he ever approached Flynn, either by our 24/7 normal surveillance techniques of the Russian Embassy and staff or by the FISA court approved wiretap? You think?
    Either way, Mueller knew there was no there there with Flynn going in. And has nothing going out. That is why he did not charge Flynn with any Russian Collusion stuff.
    They know it, I know it, and everybody except the Green Libertarian knows it. They got nothing. Zero, zilch, nada, nunca. Otherwise Flyn would have been screwed, blued, tattooed, and branded with the red hot iron with the words “Russian Collusion” across his forehead. The Scratlet Letters. But, noooooo. Not to be. They got nuthin’. Big goose egg.
    Speaking of the deceitful methods to obtain the FISA approval, I am certain that Mueller will dig into the felonious leaking of secret wiretapping transcripts to the media. A very big Bozo no-no. I won’t hold my breath.
    Onward to the new buzz words, whatever they may be. For now, they just keep floating trial gallons hoping one finds a home. Obstruction of justice? Come on, that was rather limp wristed, no? Try something else, Libbies….er…Progressives.
    ————-
    Have the Republicans no shame, no ethics, no morals???? Holy Green Snot Slime, the RNC has reopened the spigot to that lying Bible trumpin’ gun toting bitter clinger Roy Moore. Where is the outrage?… Hmmm.
    The libs will throw John Conyers under the bus, but not Not Funny Stuart Smiley Al Frankenstein. Why? Because they won’t loose a seat in the House with Conyers gone (sure won’t be a conservative that fills Conyers slot, duh), but Stuart Smiley is from the Senate. The Senate. That is where all the action is. Only takes a simple majority to convict Trump in the Senate and send his sorry butt back to Queens.
    Godspeed Roy Moore. You will win by 8 points, but take the money anyway and buy yourself, family, and your group of friends each a nice big fat juicy steak to celebrate.
    Then write a book and call it “Al Franken is a Big Fat Groper.” Sweet Justice, come to Pappy. Daddy’s got a brand new gun. Metcy.

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  12. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Meuller has nothing. Now we here that Flynn was interrogated January 23, 2017 and it was at the white House. He did way less than Hillary did and she skated. Now we know why. The FBI guy was a Hillary supporter and helped draft the “non-prosecute” letter way before Hill was even interviewed. Stinks. Mueller has to quit this is bad for America/.

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  13. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Todd
    How do you account that Trump is historically the most unpopular President in modern history?

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  14. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Scott, once again how do you account for the fact that Trump is down 30 points in a conservative poll? It’s the one Trump likes to quote. Not any more.

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  15. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    If you had the daily battering of people like you nationally then the anwer is clear. You all did it too Bush who your ilk now loves. Why do they love Bush now you ask? Because he has bashed Trump. Your ilk is so transparent it must hurt. And your poll number are half of Trump’s.

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  16. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Todd
    Just a reminder that your guy Trump wanted to impeach Bush for lying. that’s ironic

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  17. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    Walt-
    “Middle-income Americans are the biggest winners under the tax bill.”
    Unless you have a secret definition for middle income this is demonstrably false. Every analysis of the bill refutes this. Even FOX news says so. Outside of Breitbart, show me anyone who will validate your claim. At the most optimistic I might break even and when the law sunsets, I (and most likely you) will owe considerably more than we do now. Of course the corporate tax breaks don’t sunset.

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  18. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery 902. I recall that was during the TRUMP campaign, not during the Bush Administration. Right? I think Comey, Lynch and Obama should be tried for treason. What say you bub?

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  19. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Todd
    You are igorant about Treason. I thought several RR contributors straightned you up on that but your memory is shot. Treason is only a crime during times of war. Try another crime.

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  20. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    Were we not at war during the entire duration of the Obama regime?

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  21. Scott Obermuller Avatar
    Scott Obermuller

    Paul at 8:50 – please see my post at 8:06. Perhaps having an adult with you at your side and helping you with words beyond 1 syllable as well as understanding logic will enable you to formulate a coherent response. I told you in plain language about your ‘reports from the front’ re opinion polls. Do try to go back and read my post. Even if your lips move while you read, perhaps you can comprehend what I posted and you can continue this scintillating intellectual bout in which you ignore my questions and pose idiot responses that evoke desperation and ignorance.
    And BTW – whatever has happened to your heart felt desire for ‘local control’?

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  22. John Avatar
    John

    Paul Emery @ 8:47. The answer to your question about why Trump is not polling well in some polls is because of dishonest swamp dwellers like yourself who hate that he is draining your home turf. Fully half of the country is your homeboys who are afraid of losing their perks and might have to get a job and be a productive citizens who must contribute more than they take from our country for a change. You shouldn’t be surprised that your pals and their skewed pollsters are not happy about that.

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  23. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery we are at war with the terrorists and the Taliban. So perhaps your noggin is the one without anything in it. You really are getting senile.

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  24. Piper Laurie's Former Shrink Avatar
    Piper Laurie’s Former Shrink

    Well well well…
    We see most of you boys in full denial mode regarding matters M.U.E.L.L.E.R. and his 36 career prosecutors. So, with a dozen potential charges to choose from in various Turkish and Russian related crimes, which would put the Lock Him Up scumbag behind bars for decades, it seems the kind Mr. Mueller accepted that tiny little bitty plea for Mikey out of the goodness of his heart. Or was it perhaps for other reasons? Anyone with a functioning cognitive state knows the reason. Mr. Mueller could have chosen something called kidnapping conspiracy to put Mikey away for life, but passed. We can only wonder why. With apologies to one of the greatest rock albums of all time, Who’s Next? Will it be Little Donnie or Sweet Faced Jared? Will Ivanka be sad in the next several months? I’d bet the ranch on it! Her former boyfriend/daddy will be sad too!
    Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha!
    god you impotent right wing old timers are dumb.

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  25. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    It would seem that the po’ ol’ fakenwesman could just link to his last 18 months of crap instead of sayin’ the same ol’ same ol’. 😉

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  26. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Scott. what you wrote was arrogant, stupid and lame and I expect a little more. This statement is a prime example
    “he American public for the most part has no idea what’s going on. Most of them can’t find their own rear end with both hands.”
    You are a pompous ass that thinks you know enough about the lives and experiences of those to you negate to stupid status because only you and your type have the truth to bear and you are willing to impose it on those who are different than you. How far do you go with that? Do you deny them the right to have an opinion based on their experiences? And to think you condemned, and rightfully so, Clinton for her pompous and arrogant “deplorables” screed during the last election and you are indeed taking the same stance.
    The fact is Trump is historically unpopular with the American people at this stage of his Presidency no matter how you try to negate it.

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  27. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    Here is a definition of Treason
    “Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.”
    Todd, George
    What was it that Comey, Lynch and Obama did that in your mind qualifies as Treason under the accepted definition?

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  28. John Avatar
    John

    Funny criticism coming from a guy living off of taxpayer dollars Paul Emery.

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  29. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Piper Laurie’s Former Shrink | 04 December 2017 at 09:57 PM
    Now I tink the readers can see the ludicrous statements you make about those that post here. By a person afraid to post their real name. My my my you are simply a moron Piper baby.
    Paul Emery, now are you clear about treason? Uranium One is the latest treason.

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  30. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    John please explain to our readers how it is I’m living off of taxpayer dollars I’d like to know that myself

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  31. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Treason, eh? Oh, that one will surely stick, Righttttt. Well, at least Punchy is shooting for the stars. Yep, that treason narrative is one big Acme Bomb in the hands of Wile E. Coyote. I can’t believe how great this week is turning out to be.
    Let Punchy take comfort in his polls. It’s a harmless crutch of his to take some comfort and ease the pain. Would you deny a man crawling across the desert two drops of water on the tongue? Of course not. Sure, Punchy has the oasis in sight and won’t stop babbling about it, so please fellas, have a heart and don’t tell him it’s all a mirage. Let him take his long pull on the jug marked ‘XXX Polls XXX’ and find shelter in his safe place. An man can only bear so much heartache, disappointment, and crushed hope. Show some longsuffeting with his delusions.
    Now that the Russian Collusion thang had turned out to be as useful ad a screen door on a submarine, the charade must continue.. The script is written and must be followed. The actors know their lines and the show must go on. Punchy will awaken tomorrow fashionably late, read his script, study his lines for the day, and stumble over here to do his acting performance.. Sure as day follows night. I, too, will arise in the morning, albeit several hours before our honky tonk musician does his rise and shine thing….good late morning, sunshine.
    I will have already read the script hours before, glance at Punchy’s squawking points prepared for him, and get busy doing something else. About 3-4 hours later Punchy will stumble over here repeating something about the oasis as if it is breaking news, and smother himself in the opiate of the masses….the masses that truly do not know their asses from a hole inc the ground.
    Treason, eh? Whatever you are drinking Punchy, that is some potent sauce. Quite the hallucinogenic properties I see. Take another long pull on the jug. Treason? That’s a good one. Fit for sharing that opiate with the masses….in case of a nuclear war of something.

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  32. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Bill
    The Russian Collusion thang has not turned out to be anything because it’s not over yet. It will smoke the rats out of their holes for sure even if Trump pulls the plug because they will be flushing out his greaser son and son in law in due time and the Big Rat will flip.

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  33. Scott Obermuller Avatar
    Scott Obermuller

    from Paul: “The fact is Trump is historically unpopular with the American people at this stage of his Presidency no matter how you try to negate it.”
    That statement is one reason I think so little of your intelligence.
    I’m well aware of Trump’s low rating in the opinion polls.
    I can’t ‘negate’ the numbers, but I can explain them to a great degree. Very few Dems or lefties will give him an approval no matter what he does, so there’s no point in him trying to please that crowd. And the press he gets is so overwhelmingly negative that the middle of the road types get a very false picture of Trump’s presidency.
    You know or should know that if the pollsters followed up by asking the same public exactly why they don’t approve of Trump, you would hear very little beyond what ever headline they saw from some news outlet run by people that openly admit they are trying to bring Trump down. Ask those worthies to specifically state actions by Trump they disapprove of. I’m amused that you believe totally in the polls that show low approval numbers for Trump but refuse to accept the findings of pollsters that show how ignorant most Americans are of basic facts about our govt’s structure, basic facts about finance and science.
    According to the AP (left wing) Trump won 2,626 counties in the US vs 487 for Hillary.
    And he’s still POTUS – and still installing conservative judges and undoing the damage caused by the previous president. Poll numbers don’t undo any of that.
    “Do you deny them the right to have an opinion based on their experiences?”
    When have I ever denied anyone the right to their opinion?
    I have and will ask them to back up their opinion with facts. That’s my right. The fact that neither you nor other leftists that post here have been able to back up their opinions when I call them out on their blatherings might sting you, but you’ll just have to live with it. I don’t claim to own the truth, but I seek after it where ever it exists.
    There’s a lot I don’t like about Trump but he’s the best we got right now and I can deal with it.

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  34. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    That’s true Punchy. It ain’t over yet. All we have is guesses (some even educated guesses), projections, false narratives, facts, fiction, and assuming minds spewing forth their emotional hopes, dreams, wants, and desire to see Trump rot in jail, then rot on Hell.
    It’s true. All we can say is “At this point…..blah, blah, blah. It has not been proven….blah, blah, blah…..yet.”

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  35. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Punchy.
    Also true is it has become abundantly clear that there is no Russian Collusion investigation per se. It’s all about an impeachment investigation, with or without Russian actors. Impeachment is the goal, was the goal, and will be the goal. It is your goal and nothing short of that will ease your TDS.
    The chips may fall where they may, but it has little to do with collusion with Putin. It’s all about removing a legally and fairly elected sitting US President. The rest is just “yets”.

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  36. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    PaulE 1014pm – 1) You confused me with someone who debated your definition of treason – a more careful read is required if you intend to debate me. But given that definition, did Obama not give “aid and comfort” to our enemies (e.g. Iran) witnessed by millions during time of war? But in the end, you misconstrue your cited definition, which merely lists “levying war” against the US (and not restricted to behaviors during war) as one of several qualifying attributes of treasonous conduct.
    2) where do you leftist derive the pejorative “greaser” when referring to Trump’s relatives? Is there any other basis for that save a good case of Trump Derangement Syndrome?
    3) Your continuing attempt to use poll citations as evidence confirming criminal acts by Trump at the same time entertains and confuses. Is there a way you can rise above that?

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  37. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    Scott- In the words of Benjamin Disraeli, “A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy”
    Over the years your mantra has been local control, local control, local control . . . until you like when Federal oversight serves your personal interest. The people of the states have overwhelmingly supported relaxing marijuana laws yet the feds still rate it as a schedule 1 narcotic with no medical value, and prosecute otherwise law abiding citizens under that pretext. Trump and Sessions have doubled down on the umbrella of federal marijuana laws, yet, somehow this is okay with you and your ilk. Disraeli just poked his finger in your eye.

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  38. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Odd, suddenly the Dems have taken interest in the debt. Funny, I can’t name one spending cut the Left has proposed.
    To be fair, the debt was never a campaign issue from either side during the Road to the White House. I waited, but it was not consuming any link. Sure, some lip service sound bites, but that was all.
    Maybe because of the sudden interest in the debt, that would explain why not one Dem voted for the tax cuts. Not a single Dem. Must be their heavy hearted concern of our nation debt. Maybe that is why they want to shut down the government….to save money. And maybe if bull frogs could fly, they wouldn’t bump their rumps on floating logs.
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1213416545459047/?type=3&theater

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  39. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    re jons 909am – It might interest Mr smith to know that Disraeli was referring to British conservatives who were in favor of returning to a strong monarchy along with all the royal imperatives. And the intelligent reader will note this leftwinger’s inability to handle nuances, here in the discriminating meld of local and federal controls. Their unfortunate affliction limits their vision of such a spectrum to only its endpoints – ALL local or ALL federal.

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  40. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Watching the trial ballons being floated by our concerned friends on the dark side of the street. Trump must be removed, so the 25th Amendment gets circulated around now and then….like bringing up Trump mocking a NYT reporter or calling CNN “Clinton News Network” or admitting publicly that Rosie is a pig. Trump must go!
    The unfit for office (crazy as a loon) narrative got floated again last weekend. This is how unformed the Democratic Socialists Greenies are. The 25th Amendment is not the vehicle to use to remove Trump. Geeze. Stupid is as stupid does.
    Here dummies, let me help you out. The House needs a 2/3 vote that Trump is crazy and should be removed. Well, first there are some loops and procedures to jump through, but at the end of the day, it’s 2/3 of the House AND 2/3 of the Senate voting that Trump,is insane. An almost impossible task to accomplish. Now, since the Bedwetters have their sights on removing Trump,by any means, impeachment is the way to go.
    After the House draws up the articles of impeachment, it only takes a simple majority to convict in the Senate. See, I helped you out. Now maybe Morning Joe can stop shitting himself on the air and refocus on a more attainable method to have Trump rot on jail for the rest of his life. I assume that includes impeachment. Hmmm. Treason would qualify as a high crime and misdemeanor, no doubt. So Buttercups, go. You can do it.

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  41. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Morning Joe was in fine form this morning. I might add him to my favorites. I can’t stop laughing.
    https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913.80726.51560645913/10155246362540914/?type=3&theater

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  42. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    George- I am quite familiar with Disraeli’s writings. I know exactly what he would call the “party of family values” formally endorsed a pedophile: “Organized hypocrisy.”
    Let the avalanche of rationalization begin. Or in Todd’s case, let’s hear something completely irrelevant in his desire that this embarrassing topic might go away.

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  43. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Looks like Moore’s accusers are bogus. Now we see them scurrying for the hills. Trump and the RNC are now on board. Moore is a victim of idiots trying to take him out like “jon smith” who s truly a thug vigilante. Fascist actually. Since Moore has never been arrested or convicted of these allegations I can only think “jon smith” must know more about pedophiles than he is letting on.
    Looks like Meulerr is trying to force Deutsche Bank to cough up Trump records from prior to the campaign. I think he is asking to be fired. Gey his sorry ass out of this phony investigation and let the country move along.

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  44. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    Todd- You should have been a catfish. You took the stinkbait, hook, line and sinker. “Since Moore has never been arrested or convicted of these allegations . . . ”
    Why then do you, Trump, and most other Repubs repeatedly demand that “Crooked Hillary” be locked up even though she has “never been arrested or convicted of these allegations?” . . . “Organized hypocrisy” at it’s best.

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  45. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    jons 1043am – Perhaps the difference you miss is that Moore’s crimes are extremely dated and now suddenly and suspiciously alleged after a 40-year run of exemplary public service. And Hillary’s criminality is extended, recent, public, multifarious, and not pursued only because of a then obviously corruptly concluded FBI investigation abetted by an obviously corrupt DoJ. It’s all about those doggone nuances that seem to evade you.

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