174 responses to “Sandbox – 25nov17”

1. 

   George Rebane

   25 November 2017

   To illustrate my above preamble, I’ll start off by drawing your attention to the last comment in the 20nov17 Sandbox by Mr Robert Cross, one of our illustrious liberals. There he dismisses a verifiable fact posted by another commenter for the only reason that its cited source is a rightwing outlet.

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   fish

   25 November 2017

   George — I am just pointing out to passersby that Scott’s source is a sketchy website known to pass on propaganda with an extreme right bias. That is all. Like all things fact or fiction, you may take it or leave it.
   I think you’ll find bobby….can I call you bobby? That these MSM outlets have very bit the dodgy reputation of those that you cite as……horrors……“right wing”.
   A good rule of thumb is that most media outlets that progressives label “extreme right” are usually guilty of little more than saying things that ruin counter to the “narrative”!

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   Russ

   25 November 2017

   Yes, I get the same shuffle from Robert Cross when I quote a paper on climate change posted at Watts Up With That. Robert discounts the peer-reviewed article because it was posted on a TV weatherman’s blog. Never mind that my posted quote came from a study done by a climate scientist and published in peer-reviewed journal. It is just a convenient excuse for discounting the facts that do not support Robert’s worldview.

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   George Rebane

   25 November 2017

   Adding to the points by Messrs fish and Russ above, differentiating between clearly verifiable assertions (i.e. data exists to confirm or falsify them) and propositions/theories yet to be confirmed/falsified is a skill that will prevent one from rejecting or accepting something just because its citation belonged to an ideologically tinged source. Even I will believe the time of day as reported by a self-avowed socialist.

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   Bill Tozer

   25 November 2017

   Dr. Rebane, I cannot find the thread concerning what defines sexual harassment, but here is an answer….from yet another right wing tainted and bias source. Survey sez it depends on who you ask.
   Oh, those Americans are such prudes.
   “When it came to asking a woman out for a drink, about one in four young males and about 12.5% of young females said it would “always” or “usually” be a form of sexual harassment. For reference, those polled in Sweden, Germany, and the U.K., all polled around 0% for this particular hypothetical”.
   http://www.dailywire.com/news/23852/study-lot-young-people-think-compliments-drink-amanda-prestigiacomo?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro

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   Don Bessee

   25 November 2017

   Cross little bobbie assuredly like MSNBC as an honest and credible bastion of journalistic integrity, you just like our own po’ ol’ fakenewsman.
   http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/11/25/msnbcs-morning-joe-hosts-caught-faking-post-thanksgiving-banter-taped-earlier.html
   😉

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   Bill Tozer

   25 November 2017

   Perhaps Bobbie enjoys his cup of mud Morning Joe with a copy of the Washington Post. Opps, this link is from Fox News, a hard core right wing extreme fakenews site and one of the founding members of the Great Right Wing Conspiracy. Nevermind.
   http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/11/24/washington-post-reporter-caught-plotting-liberal-agenda-with-billionaire-george-soros.html

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   Walt

   25 November 2017

   Robert is cross, because the truth hurts, so he tries to shoot the messenger.(taking notes from “jon”, Bunbun?)

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   Scott Obermuller

   25 November 2017

   Thanks for the warning, Bobby-Is-Cross. But I ain’t ascared. I read ’em all and take the truth from whatever source I find it in.
   Maybe Bobby can find examples of what he is claiming is true about Taki Mag.
   Or maybe he’s just blowing smoke.
   Your move, Bobby.

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    Don Bessee

    25 November 2017

    A bit of troll chow for a holiday weekend-
    http://freebeacon.com/blog/climate-alarmists-warn-coming-mass-extinction-event-dont-worry-theyre-always-wrong/
    😉

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    George Rebane

    25 November 2017

    BillT 122pm – Thanks for the good effort. Defining sexual harassment is nigh on impossible when we take into consideration today’s chaotic values. But putting out a reasonable operational definition that many (most?) people will accept may still be possible. Mea culpa, I’m working on such a definition and it’s taking longer than I had hoped.

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    Don Bessee

    25 November 2017

    Background on 802.
    http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/25/after-30-years-alarmists-are-still-predicting-a-global-warming-apocalypse/
    😉

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13. 

    Don Bessee

    26 November 2017

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/26/report-immigration-encourages-discrimination/
    😉

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14. 

    fish

    26 November 2017

    Posted by: Don Bessee | 26 November 2017 at 12:18 PM
    Wax and Richwine say these problems can be addressed if elites recognize the harm caused by their pro-immigration priorities and if sidelined American blue-collar workers also recognize their own shortcomings.
    I wouldn’t count on this…..after all, they’re desperately trying “to elect a new people”!

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    Don Bessee

    26 November 2017

    This must be one of the po’ ol’ fakenewsmans friends-
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/26/al-franken-leeann-tweeden-g-s-potter/
    😉

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    Scott Obermuller

    26 November 2017

    Bessee at 3:12 – That’s a pretty interesting take on who the left considers to be a ‘victim’.
    You can take that line of reasoning and eliminate all sorts of horrors. From genocide to pedophilia. Oh – that’s right – the left already does.
    Funny how it doesn’t seem to apply to Americans of African origin. They get to claim to be victims of slavery if their pay drops below a couple a million a year of if they don’t like the boss.
    For the left, it’s always about whatever fits the current narrative.

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17. 

    fish

    26 November 2017

    Holy crap…..! I’ve had a great time making sport of Creepy Uncle Joe….but I never got just how creepy he really was!
    http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2017/11/trump-would-clobber-biden-with-one-video.html?spref=tw&m=1
    Anyway…..no President Biden in our collective futures!

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18. 

    Bill Tozer

    26 November 2017

    All the Dems and Liberals and socialists and media can talk about is sex and race. Sex and race. Boy, imagine what would happen in Alabama if Roy Moore and his hard core Alt-Left extremist opponent talked about the border. Illegal immigration, taxes, or real issues like who they would vote for to be the next Supreme Court Justice. We all know which side Roy Moore would vote on and we all know which side his opponent Doug Jones would vote 100% for against. Against any nominee in the Gorsuch mold for certain. But, dare not talk about that, dare not go there, must not go there.
    Doug Jones is too extreme for Alabama, too extreme for America.
    Even the Green Libertarian talks about nothing but sex. Not so much on race, Little if any on the issues. Sex, sex, sex. After all this Lefty sex talk runs it’s course, wonder what they will get unhinged over next? I am waiting on the edge of my seat.
    https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/956202447863311/?type=3&theater
    https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/956457261171163/?type=3&theater
    Sex, sex, sex. Liberals and sex. Sex and liberals. No wonder Robin Williams offed himself. At least Bill Crystal wants none of that. Kudos to Mr. Crystal.
    https://www.facebook.com/139981046633761/videos/148769229088276/?hc_ref=ARQvp45NhrY9onLX5GCa_nleyI5EikgqVd3XwJCnOACYKYKAmnm1hKHicCd-UsVhDXk&pnref=story

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19. 

    Russ

    26 November 2017

    An Endorsement: Roy Moore For Senate!
    John Hinderaker at Powerline
    I wouldn’t have voted for Judge Roy Moore in the Republican primary, and I tend to view him with distaste. But in the special election coming up in a couple of weeks, if I were an Alabama voter, I would cast my ballot for him enthusiastically.
    Why? Two reasons. But first, the latest poll results from Alabama, via WBRC TV. This appears to be a meaningful poll, as it surveyed 3,000 likely Alabama voters–a substantial number. It shows Roy Moore coming back from the attacks on him to take a two-point lead, 47% to 45%.
    This poll, taken last Monday evening, is already somewhat out of date. But I think it is easy to see why Alabama voters are trending back toward Judge Moore. As I said, there are two reasons:
    1) Apparently Moore has done nothing wrong in the last 40 years. If he had, we would have heard about it. And if he has been pure for 40 years, or close to that time, he will be the most upright man in Washington, D.C. It wasn’t much more than 40 years ago when Ted Kennedy drowned Mary Jo Kopechne, and it was just under 40 years ago when Bill Clinton allegedly raped Juanita Broaddrick. If those offenses can be forgiven, Roy Moore’s (weakly) alleged offenses should be forgiven, too–especially since, unlike Ted Kennedy and Bill Clinton, he seems to have done nothing reprehensible in the decades that have gone by since.
    2) His opponent is a Democrat. ‘Nuff said–President Trump was right about this. The Democrats are doing everything they can to block the Republican agenda in the Senate, and giving them another seat would only empower the flakes like John McCain and Susan Collins who seek to mold every vote toward their own eccentric visions. Let’s not weaken the GOP in the Senate any further. The Republic hangs in the balance.
    So I say: Roy Moore for Senate! Enthusiastically.

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20. 

    Paul Emery

    26 November 2017

    Gosh and Golly Bill your last comment about mewas that I I talked about was Mueller. Tough weekend I suppose with the Feds closing in on Flynn and the Trumplet

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21. 

    Bill Tozer

    26 November 2017

    Punchy
    Yes, that was a broad brush. You did waste 7 hours straight of relentless moral outrage over a 5 million tax break to the guys and gals who make their living servicing jet airplanes. One whole day down the tubes and without sex. And how many countless days and hours have you spent on the Fake Dossier? I was wrong. You do talk about some non-sex pervert events, without grasping the issues. Now you are going after Trump’s “greasy” son. Poor Brandon, he is just a quiet kid. That was quite greaseball of you. How low will you go?
    “I’m sure your Muller nothing assessment will bring comfort to Trumps Campaign Chief Manifort, Fynn the flipper and soon his greasy Son.”
    Posted by: Paul Emery | 24 November 2017 at 10:53 PM
    All the libs talk about is sex and race, race and sex, race to sexual predation, racing to them bottom, pun indeeded. Now those unhinged journalists suffering from a bad case of Trump Derangement Syndrome (a progressive and irreversible clinical affliction) are now investigating Sanders’ pie. Not Colonel Bernie Sanders’ pie, but Sarah Huckabee Sanders’ pie. Talk about looking under the skirt. Shameful. They are obsessed.. I have never seen anything like it in 30 years.

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22. 

    Todd Juvinall

    27 November 2017

    Let’s see if Norm can get the number of responses I got in my last post. The liberals sure get stirred up on those Union articles. I cause them to lose their bowels. LOL!

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23. 

    Paul Emery

    27 November 2017

    No interest in Flynn the Flipper and the Grease Boy Trumplet Bill? What are you trying to avoid?

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24. 

    fish

    27 November 2017

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 27 November 2017 at 12:46 PM
    What are you trying to avoid?
    If I had to guess …….more of your senile blathering!

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25. 

    Paul Emery

    27 November 2017

    Fish
    Are you saying that the likely flipping of Flynn is “senile blathering” ?

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26. 

    Todd Juvinall

    27 November 2017

    Fis, I get it! You mean Paul Emry’s senile blathering. LOL!

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27. 

    Paul Emery

    27 November 2017

    Todd
    do you believe that the likely flipping of Flynn is “senile blathering”?
    More on this topic later today.

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28. 

    Paul Emery

    27 November 2017

    Todd, Fish
    No way you can avoid the news of the day.

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29. 

    fish

    27 November 2017

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 27 November 2017 at 01:25 PM
    We get it Punch….you don’t like Trump.
    Rather than the constant whining and incessant teenaged girl like badgering (this is very similar behavior to your obsession with political popularity polls) why don’t you at least wait until Mueller brings charges of some sort and then run back breathless with the news!

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30. 

    Walt

    27 November 2017

    Hay Bobby.. I hope this isn’t the Mrs.
    https://www.theunion.com/news/local-news/suspected-drunken-driver-arrested-in-nevada-city-after-honking-at-cop/
    “The driver, identified as Karen Omaley Cross, was driving through Nevada City at just after 11 p.m. Saturday, and failed to notice that the vehicle in front of her was a marked patrol vehicle, said Nevada City Police Sgt. Chad Ellis.
    After Cross realized her error, “she blew through the sign” and headed down Pine Street over the bridge at about 30 mph, Ellis said.”

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31. 

    Paul Emery

    27 November 2017

    That’s boring Fish. this is a fast moving story. Every day is filled with new treats and delights.
    Probably you should just ignore me and bliss out that everything’s ok with your guy Trump and his slimy partners and greasy sons.

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32. 

    fish

    27 November 2017

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 27 November 2017 at 02:42 PM
    Probably you should just ignore me…..
    Probably right…..!

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33. 

    Todd Juvinall

    27 November 2017

    I actually do ignore Paul Emery. Boring.

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34. 

    Don Bessee

    27 November 2017

    Well Walt if that is the cross ones significant other you could understand her heavy drinking! 😉

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35. 

    Don Bessee

    27 November 2017

    The po’ ol’ fakenewsman should not ask questions about his senile blathering’s if he was smart….never mind. 😉

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    Paul Emery

    27 November 2017

    Readers, that last comment was from Don Bessee architect of Measure W that cost Nevada County Taxpayers at least $75,000 and was defeated at the polls 60-40. He’s hardly one whose expertise on anything political should be taken seriously. He still has a home here though as part of Rebanes Circle of Jerks that provide most of the content for these pages.

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37. 

    fish

    27 November 2017

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 27 November 2017 at 03:40 PM
    He still has a home here though as part of Rebanes Circle of Jerks that provide most of the content for these pages.
    I think you’d do better at jeffies….

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38. 

    Todd Juvinall

    27 November 2017

    Paul Emery is really looking unhinged! And now he is anti-citizens voting for a measure. My what a tyrant. I assume he favors dictators since he does not like the citizens voting for an initiative. That does clear things up for the readers. Don Bessee favors the citizens voting, Paul Emery doesn’t. I’ll favor the Bessee model.
    And calling those that post comments here as “jerks”? It appears that Mr. Paul Emery is the most potent commenter here so is he poking himself as a “jerker”? Jeeze what a boring person

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39. 

    Don Bessee

    27 November 2017

    How fresh and original @340pm. Your just mad I keep getting new, bigger and better gigs since then! 😉

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40. 

    Paul Emery

    27 November 2017

    I don’t consider myself to be part of Rebanes Circle of Jerks Todd. You are a charter member. For the sake of simplicity I will refer you and them as CJ’s.
    Well Todd, Nevada County spoke and Bessee lost by 20% and it cost Nevada County $75,000. It takes a real idiot to so thoroughly misjudge public opinion.

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41. 

    Paul Emery

    27 November 2017

    For your reading pleasure
    Jones is now leading Moore by 8 points in the Conservative Fox Polls. This is going to be fun.
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2017/senate/al/alabama_senate_special_election_moore_vs_jones-6271.html

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    Don Bessee

    27 November 2017

    I would remind the po’ ol’ party parrot that I did not write W nor did I run that campaign. In the races I supported and worked in CA that cycle I won 16 of 17 in the primary. Just sayin’ to keep you on perspective ya po’ ol’ fakenewsman.
    Throwing the worn out w line is an admission you have nothing substantive to come back with. Is it true that Nevada City is going to institute a tax on grey pony tails? That should sure generate some cash. 😉

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43. 

    Walt

    27 November 2017

    LOL Paul, your bring up “W”, yet refuse to utter a peep about how “your vision” of Mom and Pop dope grower getting rich, went up in smoke. The great tax bonanza is strangling itself on “taxed too damned much!” Oh. And one lousy outlet in the county.(and you didn’t even put up a fight) How Commie of you.( Nope, no capitalistic competition allowed)
    Big dope thanks you. I bet I can find corp. stocks I can buy, that get we into the “big dope” action.
    Yet Mom and Pop grower will still be looking over their shoulder for the cops. Like I said.. “warned ya’” a LONG time ago.

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    Todd Juvinall

    27 November 2017

    Paul Emery you can dodge it all you want but you are an integral part of the circle and we all know it. You are the most prolific poster here so you are the “lead jerker”. And you are anti-citizen voting which makes you a fascist.
    Moore will be in or out depending on Alabama voters. Until then you can stuff you ridiculous polls. A couple of weeks and we will all see.
    As the head
    jerker” here Paul Emery, whenh you get some real facts let us know.

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45. 

    Todd Juvinall

    27 November 2017

    Oh and the poll you cite is last week. Here is the latest which shows Moore up 2.
    http://www.wbrc.com/story/36899832/exclusive-new-poll-shows-roy-moore-and-doug-jones-in-statistical-tie

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    Paul Emery

    27 November 2017

    Two different topics Walt. Either way Dons judgement cost Nevada County taxpayers $75,000
    Don, you were the spokesperson supporting Measure W at the League of Womens Voters sponsored debate before the election and now you say you did not write W or run the campaign. Do you expect anyone to believe that.
    You say you won 16 of 17 in the primary. What happened in Nevada County and why did your side lose big time on Prop 64?

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47. 

    Todd Juvinall

    27 November 2017

    Walt, Paul Emery is a fascist apparently. Don’t let the people vote is his deal. Sad.

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48. 

    Walt

    27 November 2017

    Nope, I did’t write it. That’s about the one thing you got right.
    So something on the ballot cost money. BFD. They ALL do.
    Let me know where the LIBS “paid their fair share”.
    Now we have a state “dope board”. That going to cost millions, if not billions before the pot smoke settles.

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49. 

    Paul Emery

    27 November 2017

    Where did I say people shouldn’t vote Todd? Can you document that or is it another one of your lies. What I did say is it cost Nevada County taxpayers $75,000 to pay for Bessee’s stupid proposition that had no support. It was supported and promoted by the Republican BOS who should take responsibility for the folly and abuse of taxpayers money.

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50. 

    Don Bessee

    27 November 2017

    Anyone who reads or paid attention to the rollout of W at Rood Center knows that ya’ pathetic fakenewsman @ 441. Lame attempt at fakenews revisionist history. The County wrote W and I saw it when everyone else did. The campaigns 440’s are online with the elections office, see my name anywhere?
    SAM debated Cal Growers at the league debate. We did not have enough money in the primary in Nevada County, we were overwhelmed by out of County pot interests pouring cash into the County. That coupled with the epic fail of the R’s get out the vote spelled defeat.
    It was a ballot issue on a regularly scheduled election cycle so the cost was minimal. Now contrast that to the proponents of S fighting tooth and nail for a special election to deliberately cost the county massive bucks.
    You are either lying or wallowing in po’ ol’ fakenews. It was the vote of the BOS that put it on the ballot. I don’t seem to recall being on the BOS, perhaps your memory is different. While I am a loyal and happy warrior in the vast right wing conspiracy, I was very open about W on YOUR RADIO SHOW right after the election. Just another lefty revisionist who can not win a debate on the merits spinning po’ ol’ fakenewsman dementia yarns. How droll. 😉

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