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[Can anyone give a cogent definition of an 'inappropriate sexual advance' or 'sexual harassment' that is accepted by more than two people?  If not, then what are we really talking about? gjr]

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239 responses to “Sandbox – 20nov17”

  1. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    And toe 23 other women that came forward about Trump ane Moore Bessee? Are they all liars?

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  2. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 22 November 2017 at 12:42 PM

    Yeah Todd…..you’re nothing like the other supes that Punch admires like Ms. “I blew three times the legal limit( I will stipulate however that she is easier on the eyes than you are Todd) outside the townhall get together” or Terry “The kiddy porn aficionado” Lamphier!
    True luminaries in the local progressive movement and hero’s to Punch-E!

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  3. fish Avatar
    fish

    Looks like we’ve got a Repub Weiner…..
    So he sent these photos to 15 year old girls Punch?

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  4. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Lame dodge fakenewsman, you said @1131
    ” 7 Moore not including the police reports that caused them to be on the alert when he was trolling teens in malls and football games.”
    There were no police reports ya po’ ol’ fakenewsman. 😉

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  5. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Well, the police were alerted Bessee.
    Here’s the ugly details since you asked. This is your guy Don they are writing about
    Roy Moore, the Republican nominee for U.S. Senate in Alabama, was banned from a mall in the early 1980s after he repeatedly attempted to pick up teenage girls, former mall employees and local police told The New Yorker. Other locals also told AL.com that Moore was known for prowling the mall. Moore, whom five women have accused of making advances on them or molesting them when they were teenagers, allegedly had a reputation for hanging around the Gadsden Mall, in Gadsden, Alabama, in pursuit of high school-age girls. One former mall employee told The New Yorker that a security guard asked mall employees to be on the lookout for Moore, who was “banned from the mall.” Blake Usry, who was a teenager in town at the time, told AL.com Moore was known to “flirt with all the young girls,” and would hang out at the mall on weekends “like the kids did.” Other locals told AL.com that Moore’s penchant for flirting with teens was common knowledge in town. One former waitress told AL.com that Moore made young waitresses uncomfortable by staring at them, then becoming rude if they did not “give him an opening.”
    there are multiple refrences to this here: Roy Moore, the Republican nominee for U.S. Senate in Alabama, was banned from a mall in the early 1980s after he repeatedly attempted to pick up teenage girls, former mall employees and local police told The New Yorker. Other locals also told AL.com that Moore was known for prowling the mall. Moore, whom five women have accused of making advances on them or molesting them when they were teenagers, allegedly had a reputation for hanging around the Gadsden Mall, in Gadsden, Alabama, in pursuit of high school-age girls. One former mall employee told The New Yorker that a security guard asked mall employees to be on the lookout for Moore, who was “banned from the mall.” Blake Usry, who was a teenager in town at the time, told AL.com Moore was known to “flirt with all the young girls,” and would hang out at the mall on weekends “like the kids did.” Other locals told AL.com that Moore’s penchant for flirting with teens was common knowledge in town. One former waitress told AL.com that Moore made young waitresses uncomfortable by staring at them, then becoming rude if they did not “give him an opening.”
    You can read all about it in several links
    https://www.google.com/search?q=police+mall++moore+ray+&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1

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  6. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Paul Emery | 22 November 2017 at 12:42 PM
    You really think your shots on me trouble me? Jeeze what are you 12? And all your help and support for Terry Lamphier makes you a what? You see Paul, no one has any respect for you because you lie and make things up while telling the public you are a “newsman”. Sorry buy my following in the community makes your followers look like the people released from a mental institution.
    Anyway, it is hard to believe that KVMR actually allows you to spread your lies and hate.
    And yes those women are fibbing and I believe Moore and Trump.

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  7. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    So Todd all 23 women are lying are lying as well as the police officers who were alerted, school officials that claim to have fielded Moores’s calls to students and mall workers that were alerted to keep an eye on him. All liars right Todd?

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  8. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    more on Moore
    A retired Alabama police officer said she and her colleagues were told decades ago to “make sure” Roy Moore “didn’t hang around” high school cheerleaders, and confirmed previous reports that the Republican Senate candidate was banned at the time from a local mall for predatory behavior toward teenage girls.
    “The rumor mill was that he liked young girls, and … we were advised that he was being suspended from the mall because he would hang around the young girls that worked in the stores and … really got into a place of where they say he was harassing,” former Gadsden police officer Faye Gary told MSNBC on Tuesday.
    “We were also told to watch him at the ball games, and make sure that … he didn’t hang around the cheerleaders,” she said.

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  9. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Yes Paul Emery, you libs are liars and you create lots of ways to fool the people. Look at yur defense of and love for Bill Clinton. Shame on you. Moore is innocent as is Trump. Get ued to losing while I get used to winning.

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  10. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The po’ ol’ fakenewsman @ 233 is using selected rumor quotes but still not including the fact the same former cop said there were NO police reports as in my 1251. In addition the mall manager refuted the banned from the mall bs.
    So the person who said she was a 14 year old when he called her on her bedroom phone had her own mom say she had no bedroom phone. Plus the court hearing were Moore supposedly picked her up was the mother transferring custody to the father in another County because of discipline issues which means she was not around after a few days. Her son, ex-husband both called her a liar. Then you have Gloria Alreads year book signature problem.
    It seems the most sensational charge has fallen apart. 😉

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  11. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    That is why Paul Emery is just a run of the mill fake news peddler. No one cares what he writes as it is always rumors and innuendo. He is why the press is so poorly respected. Gads!

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  12. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    GFunny how Paul Emery peddles polls all the time yet the truth is Trump is way more respected and has higher polls numbers than Paul Emery! You cannot make this stuff up.

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  13. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Gosh and Golly Todd I don’t recall any poll using my name. Can you point me to one? Never seen “Paul Emery” in any poll.

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  14. ThaBill Tozer Avatar

    Boy, that Moore sure has our Popinjay’s mangina all a’ twitching. Yo Punchy, tonight take two Royselzers and wake up feeling yourself. Tomorrow morn, stretch your arms, , sake the sleep out of your eyes, and you will feel like a new man…or woman
    Marihuana, marihuana. Put my ear to the ground. From the lawless Ridge, wacky tobaccy going for (being dumped) at 600/lb, market flooded, there is trim work but nobody has enough cash to immediately pay for human labor….our labor pool of trimmigrants get paid when the Pa and Ma Kettle get paid. I heard of fronting dope, but not fronting labor. Let’s see, now. If trimmers are clamoring for a 150 clamshells a pound these days, that drops the it to getting really getting 450 clamshells. Too many ametuers are looking for gold in them thar hills, I reckon. Big boys are doing just fine. Be careful what you wished for….er…..demanded for.
    When I heard of all the fires and devastion in Napa and Santa Rosa, I figured that would be good for our Ridge Runners competing with the politically correct Wine Country and Green Coastal Range boys. Well, nobody was saying it our loud. but some were thinking it. Horrible tragedy. a cryin’ shame. Then when the Lobo fire broke out, rumor had it that some misfits in PV were cheering for the fire to lick up the NSJ organic farms.. it’s a dog eat dog world. Happy Thanksgiving to one and all, and especially you, Tiny Tim.
    Gobble, gooble.

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  15. Walt Avatar

    The words of a radical LIB chick.
    “The benefit of all of us getting to finally tell the truth + the impact on victims FAR outweigh the loss of any one man’s reputation,” she said, adding, “If some innocent men’s reputations have to take a hit in the process of undoing the patriarchy, that is a price I am absolutely willing to pay.”
    That “price” isn’t being paid by her ass. So just how “willing” is she?
    http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/11/22/teen-vogue-columnist-emily-lindin-tweets-shes-not-at-all-concerned-about-false-sexual-harassment-claims.html

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  16. fish Avatar
    fish

    Seen on unz.com and appropos of the ongoing discussion and re the following…
    “Here’s an unpopular opinion: I’m actually not at all concerned about white men losing their jobs over false sexual assault/harrasment allegations” – Emily Lindin: The UnSlut Project
    …and a thoughtful reply

    One problem for feminists with whom this sentiment IS popular is that the population is becoming more red pilled day by day and is catching on to women’s true feelings on this and other subjects. Arrogant admissions like this one are only hastening that process.
    The proof of that is President Trump and soon to be Senator Roy Moore. Ten years ago, they would have probably not withstood the onslaught of smears they have endured. But more and more, the population is looking askance at such claims and it is going to take more than an accusation from a fabricated incident 20 + years ago to derail a career or lose a lawsuit.
    Assuming Moore is elected, the silver lining will be that women will now have to co-exist with the men they smeared and tried to banish. Same for Trump. Women lie all the time and pretty soon, even the White Knights will get it.

    These are the people who want to “have a dialogue” with you about sexual harassment.

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  17. Walt Avatar

    Speaking of dope,, Hear the news Paul? This is where I say,,”I told you so”. Big dope greased the palms of SAC. Your “little guys” got the high hard one. Big dope will be running the show. Your Mom and “grow daddy’s” will still be peddling their product illegally on the streets. The state has already set the tax at “insane”. Same goes for the regs to grow “legally”.
    As for “local”,, ONE outlet. (REALLY????) What a joke that will turn out to be.
    So it will be business as usual, the way it’s been since weed first showed up here.
    http://fortune.com/2017/11/06/california-marijuana-tax/
    I will call up my old suppliers first.
    http://locoweedfeed.com/weedfeed/2017/nov/20/weed-feed-california-releases-pot-regulations-scra/
    Yup,, Mom and Pop,, BONED……

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  18. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Why are you bragging about that Walt? If true, it’s our local economy that will be hurt the most. Are you planning to cheer in front of the vacant storefronts on Broad and Mill Street?

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  19. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Not by name ya po’ ol’ fakenewsman @408, by profession, at least pimps and used car salesmen will keep your profession from being at the bottom of the list. 😉

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  20. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Paul Emery | 22 November 2017 at 04:08 PM
    Don got to you first. But my guess is you are too slow to even get what he sais. Also how come you supported Bill Clinton twice and then Terry Lamphier and Al Franken? My guess is the voters will destroy your party over all your hypocrisy. Moore and Trump are innocent of the false charges.

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  21. Walt Avatar

    Do go bitching at me Paul, I was only warning you. Did you listen? Nope. You had it all figured out I was just the stupid ditch digger.
    What the hell did I know??
    So come July, and bets on the whining in all the papers about how people are getting canned and can’t work because of “legal” dope?
    Those drug tests will be the next villain.Those evil insurance company’s who insist on a drug free work place.
    I guess we will have to pay for them too.

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  22. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Didn’t support Terry Lamphier Todd, not in my district.
    Too bad you have such difficulty expressing yourself Todd that Don has to stand in your place. Kinda confusing ol guy.
    As I recall you were a Bush supporter. Our current President wanted Bush impeached for lying to the American public and bringing us to war in Iraq, one of the things I agree with Trump about. Bush was your guy right Todd?

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  23. ThaBill Tozer Avatar

    @ 4:08 sez:
    “I don’t recall any poll using my name. Can you point me to one? Never seen “Paul Emery” in any poll.”
    Duh. Have you tried looking under “The Punch Drunk Popinjay “ poll? Try Google or another search enigine. Geeze, Louise.
    https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/954244311392458/?type=3&theater
    https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/954543031362586/?type=3&theater

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  24. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Not so fast ya po’ ol’ fakenewsman, I did not stand in for anyone, only stood up for the truth. 😉

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  25. Bill Tozer Avatar

    Anybody else get the feeling that Twitter is Trump’s pointing laser and the Democrats and Green Libertarians are all cats?
    In related news, the liberals are losing their ever lovin’ minds. Trump pardoned a White turkey. A white turkey.! You heard that right. Somebody do something. Stop him!

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  26. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Another Dem female ‘suddenly’ remembers what was going on:
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/22/politics/sebelius-clinton-white-house-behavior/index.html
    In other words – Rush Limbaugh was absolutely correct about Bill and K Sebelius decided to keep her mouth shut at the time but now wants to appear all pious and righteous. Kathy baby – you can’t start now.
    Good ‘ol Bill – nothing like forcible rape and his ‘wimmins issues’ wife going after the accusers.
    After they let Teddy off for walking away from a drowning woman in a car he drunkenly put into the water, I knew the Dems could not give one freakin’ damn about any inconvenient female.

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  27. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Clinton news-how boring
    Filler material when there is nothing else to write about.

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  28. Walt Avatar

    Paul. Again you hobble away. Just think. Your near future care giver might be a pot smoker. Think about that.

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  29. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 22 November 2017 at 06:12 PM
    Clinton news-how boring
    Filler material when there is nothing else to write about.

    TRANSLATION: Nothing here I can chuck at the president or Judge Moore.

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  30. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Jeeze Paul EWmery, you are slipperier than a freshwater eel. DonB was helping you understand how dumb your answer was to my erudite question. It went right over your head. And you supported TerryL but just could not vote for him. You were a mouthpiece for him and now you deny it? Amazing. Just like the dems tossing aside Clinton.
    Regarding Bush. Yes I supported him and did it twice. I supported his war in Iraq just like all your favorite dems did in Congress. You really are one disingenuous fake news man aren’t you?

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  31. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Oh just curious Paul Emery, what about Conyers? Your favorite black Caucus Congressmen? Sitting at his desk in his undies while ushering in a young cutie. Since he is your boy, then I assume his sexual harassment is OK? Squeal like a pig bub.

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  32. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Well ToddHow do you explain your guy Trump calling for his (Bush) impeachment for lying?

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  33. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Gee, back to the why, why, why. Sad when no thoughts are left. 😉

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  34. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    What about your hero Conyers Paul Emery. Any condemnation or just praise?

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  35. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Not a Democrat Todd. I don’t support either Party. He deserves whatever process he has to go through for his disregard for the dignity of women. The people of Alabama will make their choice as to who will be their Senator. If Moore is elected the Senate Republicans will dump him and the party (no caps} will go on. Trump has shown his allegiance to Bannon not to the Republican Party and so have you. The whole thing is really a blast. Can’t wait for the next episode.

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  36. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Hey ya po’ ol’ fakenewsman, I thought you repeatedly said Pence would be the president by now?? 😉

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  37. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Don’t think I set a time limit Don. I just predicted Trump wouldn’t last four rounds- I mean years.

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  38. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Think again po’ ol’ fakenewsman, review your own posts! NO revisionist history here ya po’ ol’ party parrot, you also predicted he would quit before the inauguration. Gotta keep it real! Well unless you have a dementia diagnosis. 😉

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  39. Bill Tozer Avatar

    The election of Judge Roy Moore, Esq. will give the libs one more reason to hate the South….as if they don’t have enough reasons already and have been hating and dissingg on the South for decades. NASCAR loving beer bellied ignorant blue blood hillbilly racists….trailer park trash. Swamp creatures. Rifles on the rack on rear window of the pick-em-up-truck. Ever see the end of Easy Rider? That’s the South. Just ask Boardman and Crabbman really hates Dixieland, “where I was born early one frosty morn, look away, look away, look away, Dixieland.”
    But….but….but…”In Birmingham they love the governor…..Sweet Home Alabama, where the skies are blue, sweet home Alabama, Lord i’m Coming home to you.”
    Them redneck ignorant Southern boys are who you really want to be in the foxhole with. Roy Moore, that tough old coot, is the kind of guy you want to share the foxhole with. Cunning and can eat dirt. Heck, I loved it when that 79 year old coot threw that elbow and sucker punched the big strong young man standing up near the stage and flipping off the entire crowd in the middle of Trump rally in Charolette. Southern Hospitality, Deplorable style. Darn Yankees.. Actually I loved it cause the libs became unhinged and were popping the heads clean off Hmmm. Didn’t notice any rioting in the streets and busting stuff by a mob of Alt-Righters after the recent Virginia loss. Did anybody see the mobs of protestors have a burning tire bar-b-que? Stop the violence!,lol

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  40. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Gosh and golly Don I don’t recall making those predictions Why don’t you dig them up for me then I’ll agree with you Yours to prove.

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  41. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Look out it looks like Bill is starting to have one of his expostulation seizures He,s starting to morf into Biker Bill AKA The dribbler This time with a southern accent Why don’t you move down there Bill seems like you like that place better than here
    I recommend the ladies stay away till this passes

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  42. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    That’s it for me for a while You guys are too predictable and not much fun Work on your style and I might be back

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  43. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    OK, the failing po’ ol’ fakenewsman memory defense as expected. The shadow knows. 😉

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  44. Bill Tozer Avatar

    Happy tofu day, Punchy. Have a nice time with the family. Hope Ma doesn’t bring up again about how nice it would be if you settled down, meet a nice girl (not like that last many many moons ago), and bring her a grand baby to love on….or two. Chop, chop.

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  45. fish Avatar
    fish

    NOTE TO POLITIFACT:THIS IS A JOKE! Turkey pardoned by Trump had multiple contacts with Russian officials.
    Sorry Punch…..probably not fair to get your hopes up on a day like this!

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  46. Walt Avatar

    I see Paul refuses to talk about his weed wars, and how he’s on the losing side. Big dope used him as am tool. Sorry, no “boutique” herb dens to draw the masses to Nevada City. One sales outlet with WAY overpriced goods. Yup, that’s going to fill the tax coffers. But HAY! a nice shiny new state government bureaucracy to suck up tax money and SEIU dues payers.
    ( and a new class of deadbeats. Would rather smoke dope than hold a job.)
    Speak up Paul, your “Mr. dope” here, how come your all silent on the matter these days?
    You sure were “vocal” when NID demanded new water hookups, why clam up now?

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  47. Bill Tozer Avatar

    @ 6:38 am
    Mueller is on it. Already raided the turkey farm to find out the “real” nature of the gobblers’ contacts with Trump. Trump pardoned not one turkey, but two! Timing of pardon is most suspicious, Raid happened early this morning with agents everywhere, busting the lock on the turkey pen gate, digging through bags of feed, carrying off scratch, and blocking off Old MacDonald’s road. Press is being kept far away.
    The Kremlin has issued a statement denying any involvement in the pardons. But why did the Russian diplomats at the embassy cheer when Trump pardoned the turkeys? Why, why, why?

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  48. Walt Avatar

    Some good news out of Grass Valley. And those at The Union seem to have missed it.
    http://www.sacbee.com/entertainment/movies-news-reviews/article186129793.html
    “Adrian Molina, co-director of “Coco,” had a particular attachment to Disney films well before he began working on them.
    The Grass Valley native came to the idea “that someone actually makes these, it’s someone’s job to draw all the drawings and create all the characters and tell the stories,” he said. “And when I figured that out, then it was just like, ‘How do I become that person?’” “

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  49. fish Avatar
    fish

    Hottest Thanksgiving in LA since 1877

    Yeah I remember 1877…… the miles of traffic congestion……smokestacks as far as the eye could see!
    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-thanksgiving-heat-20171123-htmlstory.html

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