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Sandbox – 15nov17

[Begrudgingly many are now acknowledging that Trump had a good trip to the Far East.  More people now understand that America has its own interests topmost, and considers it a good thing if everyone recognizes and admits that they too have their countries' interest come first.  It cuts out a lot of the bullshit when people meet to make deals on stuff like trade and national security.  Maybe the new paradigm will be named the Trumpian Schools of Diplomacy.  gjr]

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  1. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    LOL! Paul is all of a sudden concerned that he may have been lied to. ” If you like your Doc. …..”
    I have heard both Paul, “yes they do”, “no they don’t”.
    Somewhere “fairness” is the Paul bottom line. Life ain’t fair, and neither are taxes. So is it fair that 20% of the population pay 80% of the revenue? While at least 40% don’t pay any?
    To be “fair”, everyone should pay something.
    Any tax reduction anywhere is good. How bout the government stop pissing away money?

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  2. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    Can anyone inform the rest of us why it’s morally proper to confiscate a major portion of a family’s assets – all which have been properly acquired and taxed in the process of their accumulation – upon the death of a person who has spent his life lawfully working for the benefit of his family, society (e.g. his employees), and paying enormous taxes to the state in the process in order to build his estate?
    The Left’s refusal to answer this question actually delivers the correct and strong answer that ‘We can do it because we have the guns, and we will kill any of your heirs who would defend their inheritance and not pay us what we demand.’ It would be revealing if some liberal would deign to even debate this truth, but don’t hold your breath.

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  3. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    So George why didn’t Trump Tower stock at the beginning instead of saying his taxes would not benefit the wealthy in anyway Did you consider that a lie ?

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  4. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Liars are my kind of people! It’s like going home for the holidays.. Liars, cheats, gypyies, tramps, and thieves….some of them millionaires and one was so bad, they had to write special laws for the NY Stock Exchange just because of him when he cornered the wheat market around the turn of the century……late 1800’s. One rascal was a famous political cartoonist that got run out of town, one was a tailor whohttps://youtu.be/1K0l-xPhWzshad the Queen of England order his head on a platter for making her rather risqué undergarments. Queens don’t like wardrobe malfunctions, I reckon. One liar 28 year old dude snatched a 16 yearold girl, threw her in the back of a jalopy with the girl’s crying mother chasing the car down the street. He floored it and drove the crying Gal all the way to California. Took days. That be my grandparents. And one was accused by Honest Abe Lincoln as the little woman that started the Civil War when Lincoln met her. That was a lie. How could a fictious book start a massive war?? That don’t add up, but I digress. They call Conservative Blacks “Uncle Toms” to this very hour, a nice legacy . Uncle Tom liked Mr. Moneybags and Liars and so do I. And that is the good wholesome side of the family. We won’t talk about what the savage side done did. Not pretty.
    Coming here is like one big dysfunctional family reunion…best place to pick up dates. I love liars! Liars get my juices flowing. I am a liar cuddler! Oh, lay a big one on me, Punchy, and send me into Beulah Land.

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  5. Russ Avatar
    Russ

    Paul @ 06:07PM What? What are you asking? You have written jibberish. Please explain!

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  6. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Too damn true Dr. R @602. Looks like someone has a contact high @607! 😉

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  7. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    I live on voice recognition Sorry
    George
    So why didn’t trump tell the truth at the beginning instead of lying to the American people that his tax plan would not benefit the rich ? Why is that different than Obama saying you can keep your own doctor and your health care payments would not go up ? Both were not telling the truth Why from your camp does Trump get away with it ?

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  8. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Socialist (druid) penis envy @ 346. You can sure tell when someone hates their life and is burdened with jealously, envy and consumed by coveting other peoples property.;-)

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  9. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    It’s all how you look at it. Government looks at like its their money. The sane ones look at it like is their money, the money they earned. It ain’t Bernie Sanders’s money, Jerry Brownstreak’s money, or anybody else’s money. It’s my money.
    Dems have never seen a dollar floating around out there that they did not lust for. An unspend dollar is unacceptable to them. They think they have a say in what I or you make, like they are some kind of arbiter over how much money is I make is enough or how much is too much. And they really resent/despise the successful, the rich, and blessed….unless it’s one of their perv airhead movie star spokesperson multimillionaires in Hollywood or some condensing bubble boy author of some Socialist (Commie Lite) Manifesto. They want all the money, especially the dollars they have yet to get snatch out of your back pocket.
    Greed, envy, bitterness, blame, and self pity. That is how the Left looks at the successful. Rather than trying to emulate the enterprising, they seek to destroy them. Share the misery and all that stuff. They cannot sleep until they get what they think is rightfully theirs…from you. No rest for the wicked.

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  10. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Re: 7:28 on
    Hey George, why didn’t Trump tell the truth from the beginning? Yeah George, why? Tell Punchy why and tell him all about your hotline to the Emperor God. Darn, those red phones are cool. No buttons, just a direct line. Ask Trump, then tell Punchy why. Punchy is most tormented tonight. ROFLMAO.

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  11. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    I could care less if the tax plan benefits the “rich” Why are you liberals so mean? Actually, your are a flop in the business word and just jealous of those that are a success. Too much nude dancing on the rocks at the Yuba when you should have been working. Envy is a sin and you libs sure are sinful.

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  12. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Unless its Elon Musk and Tesla or mr I invented the internet Gore, they are soooooo PC and dripping with virtue speak @807. Unfortunately the po’ ol’ fakenewsmen are paying to subsidize Teslas for millionaires. 😉

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  13. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    I just love common ground. It’s so wonderful. It’s like a 4K bump in pay for the forgotten working families.
    http://www.gingrichproductions.com/2017/11/house-and-senate-tax-plans-share-common-ground/
    Aha! The Democrat Party Death Tax
    https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/952221238261432/?type=3&theater

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  14. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/17/goldman-sachs-says-2017-was-surprisingly-good.html
    It is really fun toiling in the vast right wing conspiracy but uranium one owns the mic drop for vast conspiracies. 😉

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  15. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Golly, Paul, another link that you didn’t read and understand.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-17/private-jet-owners-poised-to-get-tax-break-under-senate-gop-plan
    Did you notice… that big private jet tax break … is expected to cost the treasury… $5 million a year. Well, less than $5 million a year. About a millionth of the money the Feds collect every year. And you’ve been wasting your time blathering about how it’s a giveaway. Private jets! Private jets!
    It also doesn’t apply to owners of the jets who use their airplanes themselves. Like Trump. He already buys fuel and pays taxes on the fuel. And that’s how I pay federal taxes on my airplane. In fact, it’s the only Federal fees I pay to fly.
    There are about 12,000 privately owned jets in the USA. Maybe 1,000 will get this break (? a guess) that are managed by a third party for use by multiple owners or long term charters. That means… maybe they’ll (meaning the management companies) get a break of $5k per aircraft that will probably do more for the folks they hire to fuel the planes. Make the shared managed model a bit more successful. Easier to keep track of and bill, too.
    Paul, you are such a bloody one-dimensional fool.

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  16. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    George, why o why didn’t Trump tell the truth from the beginning? The million dollar question. Why, George, why? I am curious, George. Curious George. Why, George, why?
    I dunno. This may sound far fetched, but maybe the answer is the ability and authority to levy taxes lies exclusively within the sole purview of the US Congress. Now boys and girls, Trump is what is known as a ‘President’. Presidents’ authority and prohibitions lie in what is known as the Executive Branch of Government. Congress’s authority and probations lie in what is known as the Legislative Branch of Government. There are three branches of government, FYI. The Legislative Branch of a Government is often referred to as “Congress”, another FYI. More information regarding branches of government and their sole powers are found in a document known as ‘the Constitution of the United States’.
    The Legislative Branch of Government is the only branch of our federal government that can write, levy, or rescind taxes. The President had no such authority to tax the rich or give the gawd awful rich a tax break, nor write tax law.
    Did I get closer to answering Punchy’s query? Did I George, did I? Just curious George, did I? I could be way off track with my crazy ideas and broken thinker.

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  17. ArchieBunker Avatar
    ArchieBunker

    Trump is correct. He will not benefit from the Death Tax repeal. He will be dead when his kids are dancing in the family treasure vault.

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  18. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Archie Bunker 705, your avatar looks just like Paul Emery’s. A coincidenece?

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  19. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Gregory | 19 November 2017 at 07:12 AM
    Archie Bunker 705, your avatar looks just like Paul Emery’s. A coincidenece?
    Probably

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  20. ArchieBunker Avatar
    ArchieBunker

    Gregory 712, your avatar looks like a snowflake. A coincidence?

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  21. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Gregory | 19 November 2017 at 07:12 AM
    Probably Keach again…..

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  22. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Could be, could be.
    There are interesting avatars being drawn.

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  23. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Boy, looks like BDS now stands for Billionaire Derangement Syndrome. Hate to say I told you so (that is a lie), but the Lefties really really really do hate tax cuts and truly have a knee jerk reaction to anything that might have the slightest hint of blocking them from confiscating other people’s money. Not just this time, but every single time. As day follows night………. . To put icing on the cake, the House version has not even been voted on in the Senate and won’t be for awhile…if ever. It’s all Trump’s fault! Trump lied! Trump wrote tax law! ROFLMAO.

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  24. ArchieBunker Avatar
    ArchieBunker

    Gregory 832, only the cool people are allowed to use this avatar.

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  25. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    What’s with all these trolls?

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  26. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    “Gregory 832, only the cool people are allowed to use this avatar”. ALLOWED? ALLOWED? ALLOWED? Man, I really have zero tolerance for control freaks. Thank goodness I am not married to Archie. That would be so uncool.
    Gun Modification
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1204020666398635/?type=3&theater

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  27. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    “I don’t see any provisions in the Pubbers tax plan to assist me in maintenance and upkeep of my Dodge Van which I use to haul sound equipment.”
    Posted by: Paul Emery | 18 November 2017 at 10:25 AM
    Hmm. Well, if the vehicle is used exclusively for business purposes, one can write off mileage, maintance, and even depreciation. Even vehicle licenses, taxes, and reregistration fees on Schedule C attached to the1040 tax form….unless one works under the table and local clubs pays Punchy cash for singing. Opps, strike that. Even if paid in cash with no receipt, that income (money or any thing of values exchanged for services like free drinks (including the barter system) MUST be declared. When anything of value exchanges hands, it’s is called an monetary/economic event, subject to taxation, if applicable. If not declared, it is known as tax evasion and tax fraud, if and when one files taxes. Self employment income has many off setting write offs. Punchy clearly was talking about a vehicle used for business purposes as evidenced by his post above. No ifs, ands, or buts about it .
    Let’s turn the page, shall we? First the rewrite, then a clarification, then the confusion.
    “I have two vans Scott. One for work and one for recreation. I’m talking about my recreational van.”
    Posted by: Paul Emery | 18 November 2017 at 11:32 AM”
    Ok, any one can write of certain portions of vehicle registration fees for their personal vehicles. It’s usually not much and most just take the standard deduction. I am so confused now. Equating “tax write offs” for business use of “aircraft” with one’s personal use of a camper or van down by the river or a private aircraft is sort of muddying the waters. Buying a car or plane of train or boat for personal use in one thing, buying it for business use is another. I could be wrong. It is so unfair and Punchy wants his…for his personal vehicle. Well, never hurts to ask. Old Jewish saying: “Don’t ask, don’t get.”

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  28. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Bill Tozer | 19 November 2017 at 10:29 AM

    I’m not going to bother Punch any longer about these things! As mentioned, his argument follows the logic of the teen aged girl….which is to say he employs no logic at all!
    His madness should pass after a true stalwart and an honest representative of the people is elected.
    Fauxcohantas perhaps!

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  29. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Toes et al
    The tax thingy for aircraft in the tax bill isn’t about write-offs on corporate or individual income taxes… it’s the collection of excise taxes on certain services. It’s whether privately owned airplanes that are managed by 3rd parties for multiple owners buy fuel burdened by federal taxes like individual owners, or whether they pay excise taxes on storage, maintenance, crew training, etc. and buy fuel not taxed by the feds like airlines.
    That’s all. Nothing like the bullcrap that’s been flung by folks who think all pilots are rich. While that is arguably true for anyone who owns a jet or turboprop aircraft, that’s no reason to cheer a quirk in the codes that treat fractional owners differently than owners or owners in traditional partnerships.
    Did anyone else follow the Newsweek link Paul posted? How far the mighty have fallen. They got virtually everything wrong in the story.

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  30. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    So now it is firmly established by the RR Circle Jerks that honesty is not a necessary criteria for an honorable President. We can move on from there to something else.

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  31. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 19 November 2017 at 10:57 AM
    Well when you find an honest politician let alone an honest president you get back to us Punch.

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  32. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Sure Paul Emery, what ever you say. Now let’s move on.

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  33. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Punchy 1057
    Bizarre conclusion, there, Paul.

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  34. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Punchy 1057
    In other words, you’re tired of getting beat up for getting so much wrong, so it’s time to declare victory and command everyone to move on.

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  35. The Clued in Dude Avatar
    The Clued in Dude

    Let me get this straight,,,Leeann Tweeden used to work at Hooters,,, was a lingerie and nude model,,, humped Robin Williams and smacked his ass during a USO tour event,,,grabbed the band guitarist’s ass at another USO event,,,grabbed a serviceman and planted a wet one on him,,,did she ask,,, was tongue involved???
    AND TRUMP GOES AFTER FRANKEN INSTEAD OF MOORE???
    Trump just reminded everyone that he is just like them!!!
    You cannot make this stuff up!!!
    Gee Willikers,,,I wonder why Franken thought Leeann would be a good sport when it came to clowning around in the way Leeann is complaining???

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  36. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    re Trump’s “honesty”. Sure looks like we learned another thing about the liberal mind. When someone (say, the president) promises his best efforts to deliver something, and it doesn’t come to pass despite his best efforts, then the sumbich is labeled a “liar” by his enemies. That is either cynical or exhibits a dreadfully deficient understanding of how the US government works. ALL presidential candidates have made ‘promises’ during campaigns to achieve goals that the Constitution clearly states he cannot do without cooperation from at least one other branch of government. That is just the nature of campaigning which is intended to communicate the mind, druthers, and best efforts of the candidate. Everyone who passed high school civics knows how to interpret/understand such campaign claims.

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  37. ArchieBunker Avatar
    ArchieBunker

    I don’t know if I like this guy Alex Azar. Is it a good thing for Americans to have an industry insider running HHS? Will he work to lower drug prices? Will he be big pharma’s tool?
    http://www.fox16.com/news/politics/trump-nominates-alex-azar-to-lead-hhs-department/856615079

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  38. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: The Clued in Dude | 19 November 2017 at 12:22 PM
    Remember…..the progressive left informed us that we weren’t allowed to Slut Shame or raise questions about prior questionable behavior!
    So you can just suck it Doug!

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  39. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    1) If anything we learned from the Bubba years, it’s that character and/or personal lives do not matter. Think the operative word from those days was “compartmentalization” as well as a word I had to look up because I was unfamiliar with the term back then: “amoral.” Bubba possessed the ability to compartmentalize his life and his personal life had no bearing on his job or qualifications as President of these here United States of America. William Jeffersonson Clinton was not immoral, not moral, but rather amoral. Ok, whatever you say……
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compartmentalization_(psychology)
    My, those sure were different times. Look how far we have come. You’ve come a long way baby…and you are not going back. You go girls.
    “If a senator drove a car into a river and left a woman there to drown and didn’t notify the police, would that be considered resignation-worthy now? Or are we still not to that point?” —Frank Fleming
    More random quotes…..fit enough for the Sandbox.
    Honest? I need to look that word up. Hmmm.
    “Certain elements of the FBI and of our state cannot stand, or even worse, accept that the Latino kid from Union City and Hudson County could grow up to be a United States senator and be honest.” –Sen. Bob Menendez
    Revenge? Hmmm, sounds like something a local councilperson said…once upon a time:
    To those who were digging my political grave so they could jump into my seat, I know who you are, and I won’t forget you.” —Bob Menendez
    Stating the obvious (and 20 years too late): “Yes, I think that [resignation] is the appropriate response.” —Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand on what should have been Bill Clinton’s plight
    The BIG Lie?
    “[Bill Clinton] didn’t get away with anything. … The country forgave him.” —CNN’s Paul Begala
    Hypocrite or spot on? He sounds like he knows what he is talking about…..
    “According to the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, at least 25 percent of American women say they have experienced sexual harassment in the workplace. And recent high profile revelations about abuse … demonstrate that we are far from addressing this issue on a broader scale. So I urge my Republican colleagues to reconsider their support for this resolution. I urge them to not force vulnerable women who have been wronged into the dark and into forced arbitration.”—Sen. Al Franken in March. (Tozer note: That would be March, 2017, FYI)

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  40. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    LOL!!! the Progressives here all of a sudden bitch about dishonesty?
    Just where the fu*k have they been the last 9 years?
    Every one they have elected is more crooked than the roads of Alta Sierra.
    We all knew “O” was lying,, his lips were moving. Hillary has yet to even slow down!.

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  41. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    clueless dude 12:22
    “AND TRUMP GOES AFTER FRANKEN INSTEAD OF MOORE???”
    Most folks noticed the GOP supported the other candidate in the primary, including Trump.

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  42. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Mr. Gregory @ 10:52 am.
    Sir, I got it the very instant you first posted it. Jointly owned/ 3rd Party management of aircraft. No problem. As I often do, I decided rather than repeat the facts as you clearly stated, I lowered myself down to Punchy’s level and tried to point out some things from Punchy’s point of view (worldview) using his own words and arguments. Yep, got it loud and clear the first time…nothing to do with an individual owning his pleasure craft and getting special treatment because, and only because, he/she/it is filthy rich…evil rich.
    In a antidotal story, my own brother bought an airplane for 8k a few years back. Not that he wanted or needed the aircraft, but simply because the instruments on the plane he purchased were worth about 15-20k, a price he could not afford or refused to pay for better instruments to upgrade his own aircraft. He has always been that way with money….. He just bought a brand new, 2016 model motorcycle sitting in some Honda dealer’s showroom hundreds of miles away for a ridiculous price that was so low, one would think it was a misprint at first glance. A Honda 1450 (? ) or something. Why did he purchase it? His work charges 28 bucks a month for employee parking, 8 dollars a month for motorcycle parking, and free bicycle parking. He did it to save 20 bucks a month. Now, he is saving the full 28 bucks a month by parking in the bicycle area (always half empty) and it’s ok with his employer. Gotta be a wise steward of your pennies. 🙂 Gotta to save on fuel as well……

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  43. The Clued in Dude Avatar
    The Clued in Dude

    Waltz,,,GeorgeR just edjakated you that all politicians ”’lie”’,,,tell the huddled masses what they want to hear and pump themselves up,,,
    ALL presidential candidates have made ‘promises’ during campaigns to achieve goals that the Constitution clearly states he cannot do without cooperation from at least one other branch of government.
    Trouble with Ryghtys is that they spent the last 8 years calling libs liars,,,now they complain they are getting picked on???

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  44. The Clued in Dude Avatar
    The Clued in Dude

    MyghtyFishy,,,
    lots of ass grabbing on the USO tour video,,5:45
    talking about sexual harrassment at 7:00
    Leeann didn’t call out the guitarist for grabbing her ass???
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU2u__yBP4M&feature=youtu.be

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  45. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: The Clued in Dude | 19 November 2017 at 02:57 PM
    Why do you support rape culture Doug?

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  46. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Shove off TROLL.. Your liars are worse than ours.

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  47. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Where are these trolls coming from?

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  48. The Clued in Dude Avatar
    The Clued in Dude

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOJmT_mWsAIa3-6.jpg:large

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  49. The Clued in Dude Avatar
    The Clued in Dude

    The Russian Troll Farm of course!!! Todd,,,I see you are being skewered on Sierra Foothills Report for your newspaper article.

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  50. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Where are these trolls coming from? Jeeze!

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