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[Begrudgingly many are now acknowledging that Trump had a good trip to the Far East.  More people now understand that America has its own interests topmost, and considers it a good thing if everyone recognizes and admits that they too have their countries' interest come first.  It cuts out a lot of the bullshit when people meet to make deals on stuff like trade and national security.  Maybe the new paradigm will be named the Trumpian Schools of Diplomacy.  gjr]

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324 responses to “Sandbox – 15nov17”

  1. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Sorry Gregory your post proves my contention that there are no direct accusations of sexual harassment and involvement with minors. Here’s the way your link starts out
    “We don’t know what Bill Clinton did or didn’t do in company with Jeffrey Epstein. But we certainly know what Epstein did and, almost as outrageously, what he got away with doing.”
    http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/262853/why-bill-clintons-26-trips-lolita-express-child-daniel-greenfield

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  2. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Wow
    Moore trails Jones by 12 in a new Republican poll.
    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/15/roy-moore-doug-jones-poll-244937?lo=ap_b1

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  3. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Mppre up six in one poll and ten in another. Also, you accuse Moore without proof. I just saw his news conference. The woman who was with Gloria Allred said she never had contact with Moore after the so-called attack. Turns out he was the Judge who signed her divorce decree in 1999. And it appears the writing on her yearbook was forged. Amazing.

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  4. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Well that may be good news for you Todd because he’s your guy

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  5. George Rebane Avatar

    So, now it appears that no additional evidence beyond existing allegations is needed to judge the judge – roll out the tumbril!

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  6. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    That is why I now consider Paul Emery a fascist. Guilty until proven innocent.

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  7. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Oh, and Moore is not my guy but the readers can see how Paul Emery works. He thinks by saying sy=uch a thing that it is true. My position on Moore has nothing to do with him as an accused man but one of innocent until proven guilty, Which Paul Emery, our no called resident fascist has tossed his trash bin.

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  8. fish Avatar
    fish

    Your delightfully cynical thought for the day…..

    Wouldn’t it be ironic if Sessions went back to Alabama and President Trump appointed Judge Moore as Attorney General? Swamp would be drained at light-speed!

    Now I’m not sure that the president could get him confirmed but I certainly appreciate the Machiavellian though processes behind the post!

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  9. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Went looking for the actual poll supposedly done by the Senate Republicans. Can’t find it. And why would the “release” news organization be Politico? Smells fishy to me.

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  10. Bill Tozer Avatar

    Well, it certainly is interesting watching this Judge Roy drama unfold. Did he or didn’t he? Only his hair dresser knows for sure.
    Trump came out swinging for Luther Strange. Ditch Mitch came out swinging for Luther Strange and 100% non stop throwing haymakers on Roy during the primary to replace Sen. Sessions. As of today, Ditch Mitch is still 100% against the very sight of Roy, all the RINO’s are a’gin him, the entire Industrial Liberal Media Complex is thrusting knives in his back 24/7 headliner news, everybody is screaming for him to drop out by hook or by crook, and he is as popular as the Black Plague. Nobody is defending the guy. Not one surrogate, not one commentator on the entire globe is standing up for the dude. That is what your call being left to dangle in the wind. Judge Roy against the world, the whole wide world.
    Hmm. Sounds kinda familiar. Think I used the same words when I described Citizen Trump time and time again. Doesn’t have a prayer, right? One solitary man and a Twitter Machine.
    By now everybody who has an opinion has voiced their opinion. Fish was right yesterday or the day before. It don’t look good for Roy. Even the anti-Swamp crowd and anti-Establishment crowd is doing the anti-Moore dance on his head. Media has spoken, Dems have spoken, Republicans have spoken, and the Non-Profit Industrial Complex has spoken. No much else to say. .
    Bottomline, it’s now up to the voters of the Great State of Alabama, It’s the only voice that counts. Strike that. It’s now all up to the Deplorables. That is the only thing that counts. Whatever the Deplorables do about that Judge Roy Moore….well, what can I say except the fate of Roy Moore is in their hands. This is great stuff to watch.
    Polls all over the place. Punchy’s poll has Moore DOA, toast, don’t bother to show up, Judge Royland. That college poll has Roy up 6 today, another with a double digit lead, another 2 points up, another 2 down. Oh, the drama. A proverbial wet dream for Crisis Junkies and adrenalin whores. It’s game on. One man with his back to the wall against the whole world. And we can only watch from here. That is a good thing. Ball is in your court, Alabama.

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  11. Walt Avatar

    Yet this LIB is arrested, and all the heat is still on Moore.
    http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/15/networks-ignore-dem-candidate-arrested-for-stalking/
    “A Democrat running for Congress was arrested on a stalking charge last week, but the media has refused to give the story any coverage.
    David Alcon, who is running for an open congressional seat in New Mexico, was arrested this past Friday on a felony stalking charge after a woman accused him of sending her frightening and lewd text messages and showing up at her home. Alcon was previously convicted of stalking his ex-girlfriend in 2007 and was described as “infatuated” and “clearly obsessed” by the judge in the case. ”
    There is more proof against this LIB than Moore. Yet look who’s getting roasted by the press.
    Once again LIBS protect their own.

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  12. fish Avatar
    fish

    Hmmmm sound like anybody who hangs out here?

    “Many Democrats Green Libertarians™ sound ready to rush to impeachment regardless of what Trump has actually done. They seem inspired by the Soviet secret police chief who allegedly declared: “Show me the man and I will show you the crime.” Desperate assertions that $3,000 in Russian-linked Facebook ads swung the election results in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin are indicative of the pathetic logic of many Trump critics.
    Many Trump opponents are the same type of zealots who, in the late 1700s, proudly labeled themselves “Friends of Government.” In their eyes, Trump’s greatest sin is tarnishing the majesty of the presidency and the federal government. Trump is exposing the sham of a Leviathan Democracy which pretends that presidents will be philosopher kings — instead of merely talented vote catchers. However, Trump cannot be blamed for destroying Americans’ trust in Washington. This was already achieved by presidents such as George W. Bush and Obama who the media occasionally exalted to the skies.
    Trump’s critics are correct that the president has too much arbitrary power. But many people happy to believe the worst about Trump will heave all their skepticism overboard when the next political savior is anointed. Such naivete is being encouraged at the highest levels of the Democratic Party. Recall that Hillary Clinton’s recent book declared that the lesson of George Orwell’s “1984” is that people should trust their leaders and the media.
    Hysteria remains the 2017 political badge of honor. Last Wednesday, thousands of people gathered across the nation to shout at the sky to protest the anniversary of Trump’s victory. But righteous rage is no substitute for focusing on the real perils that Trump and any other president poses to our rights. The Friends of Freedom need to keep their intellectual ammo dry.”

    …with only minor liberties taken with the above text.
    http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/360368-do-trumps-liberal-critics-seem-increasingly-unhinged

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  13. fish Avatar
    fish

    MSNBC Host Has Perfectly Logical Reason For Not Covering Menendez Trial

    Hey Punch…ever think about catching on with MSNBC….as a stringer?
    I see a crack Green Libertarian™/Functional Socialist™ news team! Right up your alley!
    Might be a Murrow in it for ya!
    https://hotair.com/archives/2017/11/14/msnbc-host-perfectly-logical-reason-not-covering-menendez-trial/

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  14. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Sorry the research was too difficult for you Todd
    Here’s another link to a RR favorite
    http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/360535-republican-poll-moore-12-points-behind-democrat-jones

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  15. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    From the Hill
    Moore’s polling lead and favorability have declined since the two NRSC polls conducted prior to the allegations. Surveys from early October and early November had the former state Supreme Court chief justice leading by 16 points and 9 points, respectively.
    The release of the poll comes days after the NRSC removed its name from a joint fundraising committee that would help fundraise for Moore with other GOP groups ahead of the Dec. 12 special election.

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  16. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Oh Paul Emery you just don’t get the American way do you?
    You supply a link the uses the Politico Article sighting a Republican poll that does not even show up on the Republican link. Really the sleuth aren’t you?

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  17. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    So Todd you are denying that the poll exists?

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  18. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    I read the underlying data and if you can link me to the poll where that is then you might become a gentleman

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  19. Walt Avatar

    I wonder what the excuse will be from Paul, when the “polls*”
    he references come back to kick him in the jelly beans?
    He sure didn’t learn anything from the elections.
    Well Paul, nothing to say about the LIB stalker running for office?
    Didn’t think so….

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  20. Bill Tozer Avatar

    Walt, Punchy does not follow Lib stalkers, nor did he vote for him.

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  21. Bill Tozer Avatar

    Walt, wait a minute. I see the connection. I can connect the dots. The Lib stalker is from New Mexico. Gary’s Johnson was governor of New (not old) Mexico. Both from New Mexico. Starting to see a direct connection. Punchy voted for Gary’s Johnson, thus Punchy supports the Lib stalker. See, it was that easy. Signed, sealed, and delivered. If you want more proof, why did the Russians not cheer when Gov. Johnson lost? Why, why, why, hmmm. We know the reason why. The Russian colluded with Jill Stein to steal the election from Johnson and the Russians hacked Trump’s e-mails so the Lib stalker will win. I got a link to a comment of a Huff-n-Puff blog that proves it…from very high placed unnamed government officials. Now, where did I put that comment? It was down around comment 287….

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  22. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    National polls were right on the number Walt. Do you dispute that?

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  23. Walt Avatar

    Really Paul? Trump won. Your “polls” never said that.
    “polls” said Trump would never even make it to the nomination.
    How did that work out ol’hippie?
    “polls” said Trump would never get anywhere, never get the votes, would NEVER be President.
    Hell! Even you pal “jon” was never to be heard from again after election night.
    Yes Paul, I will dispute anything you say. Even if you say the sky is blue.( Yes,, I WILL check!)
    So. How bout you guy Johnson’s bud the perv? Still not reporting on that… Got it.. Won’t disparage one of your own.

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  24. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Never saw anything about Johnson Walt. Can you send me a ink?
    Thanks in advance

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  25. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Where is that link to your poll Paul Emery? And BillT has you pegged right on the money. What a hoot!

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  26. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Did he brag about pussy grabbing or feel up 14 year olds? Details Walt.

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  27. Clue-Sew Avatar
    Clue-Sew

    @GeorgeR,,,
    ’’’So, now it appears that no additional evidence beyond existing allegations is needed to judge the judge – roll out the tumbril’’’
    Where do you stand on the Swiftboating of John Kerry???
    Is it all good when comes to Swiftboating Libs,,,but,,,but,,,wait a minute,,,how do we know mall pervert Moore is guilty of anything???
    Exit question: Where are the defense’s opposing witnesses? Right,,,the fine upstanding Alabamians who can contradict Cowboy Roy’s accusers???

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  28. Bill Tozer Avatar

    This is wrong I tell ya, just plain wrong on so many levels. The dude wears socks depicting cops as pigs, dons a pro-Castro shirt at a presser in Miami, kneels in protest at the National Anthem, all the while JJ Watts organized and raised 26 million greenback-a-dollars for Hurricane Harvey victims (the natural disaster, not other Hurricane Harvey). Now they make pig socks Citizen of the Year. Somebody better fix that, like now.
    There. All better now. Nevermind.
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1201566729977362/?type=3&theater

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  29. Walt Avatar

    Paul.Second post of that. It’s not my problem you don’t read it. http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/15/networks-ignore-dem-candidate-arrested-for-stalking/

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  30. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Gloria Allred refuses to allow a neutral party to examine the yearbook of the babe claiming abuse. Hmmm.
    Swift-boaters were honorable men. I watched the one guy debate and destroy Keery way back. And when Kerry threw his medals over the White House fence he sealed his fate. Of course, he became a hero by trashing his fellow soldiers in Teddy Kennedy kangaroo court. So maybe payback ain’t so bad?

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  31. Walt Avatar

    LOL!! Clueless wants to defend John K? ( Purple heart for a grain of rice in his ass, got there from the grenade explosion he set off in the rice storage)
    You have at it Bunclueless. ( Go back to “Lavender” it fits you.)

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  32. Bonnie McGuire Avatar

    Dr. Rebane…Thanks for the common sense. I regard America to be my home and the people my family. Shouldn’t we be more concerned about the welfare of those in our family than what other countries are doing for their families? All nations have responsibility for their family.

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  33. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Clue-Sew | 15 November 2017 at 06:11 PM
    ’So, now it appears that no additional evidence beyond existing allegations is needed to judge the judge – roll out the tumbril’
    A bit of hyperbole on Georges part….there will be no Tumbril….Judge Moore simply won’t be seated as a senator.
    Is it all good when comes to Swiftboating Libs,,,but,,,but,,,wait a minute,,,how do we know mall pervert Moore is guilty of anything???
    I’m sure you were vigorously defending Senator Horse Teeth when this was being done to him. Politics!
    Exit question: Where are the defense’s opposing witnesses? Right,,,the fine upstanding Alabamians who can contradict Cowboy Roy’s accusers???
    Well you seem to be in the “believe the accusers” camp. I’m sure that you’ve noodled it through that people who commit these acts generally don’t do it in public….. “he said vs. she said” incidents.

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  34. Bill Tozer Avatar

    Interesting quote. Fake Russian collusion narrative? But, but, but the Russians cheered when Trump won. Why, why, why?
    “According to reports, Simpson’s attorney denied his client co-wrote the discredited Trump dossier, and did not take an active part in crafting the fake Russian collusion narrative.”
    http://www.oann.com/house-intel-committee-learns-a-great-deal-from-fusion-gps-founders-testimony/

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  35. Clue-Sew Avatar
    Clue-Sew

    Oh Walter, you and MyghtyFishy flipping out!!!
    Wake up,,, get real,,,if some Congressman is guilty of some weirdness,,,he neeeds to go…the difference between Libs and perv lovers is that Libs will do the right thing and not support the perv. Proof??? I give you Trump!!!

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  36. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Clue-Sew | 15 November 2017 at 06:56 PM
    …the difference between Libs and perv lovers is that Libs will do the right thing and not support the perv. Proof??? I give you Trump!!!

    We were doing so well Doug…..and then you had to go and spoil it by going and huffing paint thinner.

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  37. Bonnie McGuire Avatar

    Thanks news of the day 5:17 pm. That’s pretty obvious despite all of the distractions. Money, money, money. All the baloney, lives and money we’ve spent allegedly to protect us from the evil enemy who might use atomic weaonry on us while some of our wonderful elite made sure the alleged enemy got what it wanted…for their benefit. The lesson warns us to look closer at why some people are persecuted. I’m reminded of the Obama/Clinton Uranium One deal with Russia, and why people like the Bundy’s who lived near these mineral deposits were made out to be criminals…

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  38. Bonnie McGuire Avatar

    And one more thing…Paul Emery, your a nice guy, but don’t keep bringing up those polls. They’re a phony baloney distraction from the get go created to make dumb people think this or that is popular …so they’ll follow the leader.

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  39. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Carlos Danger likes how you think@ 656. 😉

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  40. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    News today the Congress has a Hush-Fund and used it to pay off 15 million to victims of their sexual abuse.

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  41. fish Avatar
    fish

    Wow…..just think….if this guy had done this in Jerry Browns California he might have gotten a ticket.

    Hairdresser guilty of trying to infect men on GRINDR with HIV…

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/15/hairdresser-guilty-deliberately-trying-infect-men-met-grindr/

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  42. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Walt writes ”
    So. How bout you guy Johnson’s bud the perv? ”
    What does David Alcon (your link) have to do with Gary Johnson? You seem to have them confused. Your link (6:17) is not about Gary but David c whoever that is.

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  43. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    I sorta’, kinda’ thought that folks that managed pensions had a fiduciary duty to safe guard the funds and obtain the best return for the fund with prudent investments.
    Not in California. CalPERS management has already cost the fund billions by not investing in legal, but politically naughty businesses. Anywhere else this would be an open and shut class action lawsuit slam dunk. Where is the vaunted union SEIU concerning this mess?
    Looking out for the employees? NOT!
    “Say – look here. We need to be virtue signalling with your pension. You don’t mind, do you?”
    https://calwatchdog.com/2017/11/08/california-pension-funds-pushed-politicians-divest-gun-industry/

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  44. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Oh Paul Emery, Walt is just using your strategy and so it must be true. You supported Johnson, he knows the perv, therefore you are a perv pal.

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  45. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Todd
    Let me walk this back, I voted for Gary Johnson who knows David Alcon (of which there is no evidence. Try googling “Gary Johnson David Alcon”) therefore I am a perv. That judgement must apply to everyone that voted for Libertarian Johnson right Todd? That also applies and women libertarians as well. Probably applies to Gregory and maybe Fish who both lean libertarian.
    Can you confirm my line of thinking?

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  46. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Can you confirm my line of thinking@ 849? That sounds like a question for a lot of individual counseling sessions. 😉

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  47. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Just trying to bond with Todd by confirming that I understand his logic and intellect. I’m reaching out Don.

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  48. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Not my logic Paul Emery, but yours. That is how you think and I simply am pointing that out.

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  49. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    I never said you were A perv Todd. I only stated that you like him and he well likes young girls All you have to say is you don’t like or support him and that’s the end of it

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