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George Rebane

It may well be that the ongoing โ€˜Russia collusionโ€™ investigation will turn out to be a bigger affair than was Watergate, even if it doesnโ€™t connect Donald Trump to any culpable act.  Special prosecutors must needs eventually find something to prosecute, and find it they will as Robert Mueller has already demonstrated with the trio he currently has in his crosshairs.  And it may soon become a quintet if he adds the Podesta brothers.


But what continues to amaze me is the absence of journalistic professionalism on both sides of the common political spectrum.  As a conservetarian (see Glossary) ideologue, I have no trouble identifying the errors, omissions, and bigotry apparent at the lamestream media outlets.  But in recent months the performance of the right-of-center outlets, some claiming to be โ€œfair and balancedโ€, has further piqued my concern.  Daily they commit errors of semantics and logic that leave us shaking our heads as we consume our daily diets of political intrigue, inanities, and investigations.

A case in point that now pops up regularly is the entire idea of people (on both sides) being accused of or ascribed as โ€˜colludingโ€™ with the Russians for divers purposes, with not all of these supposedly nefarious deals having the goal of favoring one or the other candidate in the 2016 election.  These collusions are supposed to be bad because they tried to, could have, or actually did throw the election.  Ferreting out such bad collusions was the original commission of the special prosecutor.

Now โ€˜to colludeโ€™ has a very definite meaning which seems to escape the worthies of our Fourth Estate.  Specifically, collude is a verb that means โ€œto act together through a secret understanding, especially with evil or harmful intent.โ€  The careful reader will note that this is a two-part definition that requires the inclusion of the second part, characterizing โ€˜intentโ€™, as the conditional which makes a collusion nefarious.  Of course, everyone knows that people, businesses, and other social units constantly collude to achieve ends that are simply prudent and in no way โ€œevil or harmfulโ€.

However, in todayโ€™s reporting all these nuances are either too complex for the media reporters and editors, or they are using โ€˜collusionโ€™ with the unspoken objective to meld both parts of the definition in the minds of their lightly read minions โ€“ in short, theyโ€™re promoting an agenda.

But to reasonably allege criminal intent as part of any collusion calls for establishing the so-called MOM โ€“ motive, opportunity, means โ€“ requirements.  The alleged motive part for either side is easy enough to understand; they wanted to win the election.  However, neither the opportunity nor the means parts are addressed in todayโ€™s breathless media reporting.  Making the case for โ€˜evil or harmful intentโ€™ to collude must involve some description of the means for the parties โ€˜acting togetherโ€™ to execute a โ€˜secret understandingโ€™, neither of which have been described within any plausible scenario that would have had any reasonable basis for a measurable effect on the election.  So all we hear today is reporters and talking heads blithely telling us about X or Y colluding with Russia to accomplish what?  Nothing in these reports and subsequent blather make the case beyond use of the word โ€˜collusionโ€™ โ€“ no description of means and/or opportunity scenarios are included.  All these reports and โ€˜analysesโ€™ simply leave the rest of the considerable blanks to be filled in by carefully fashioned imaginations of the great unwashed.

The Republicans have an easier job of demonstrating the two-part definition of Democrats colluding, because the MOM requirements for the uranium deal, Clinton Foundation corrupt contributions, Hillaryโ€™s email transgressions, the manufactured Steele dossier, and the DNC screwing one of its candidates are all a matter of record, no doubt, with much more to come.

But to date, the nationโ€™s Left is doing its best to delude Americans about Team Trump having criminally colluded with the Russians โ€“ no evidence for such collusions has yet to be presented, and that definitely includes the indictments and confession of the first trio that got tangled in Muellerโ€™s widely cast net.  No doubt more are to come, but in the interval the astute reader should (1) discriminate between empty allegations and substance when โ€˜collusionโ€™ is part of the report, and should there be substance, then (2) determine if the discovered substance is actually a criminal collusion tied to Team Trump.

[5nov17 update]  On the WSJ Editorial Report yesterday, I was happy to see that former federal judge Michael Mukasey (also Attorney General under Bush2) agrees with my above analysis of the collusion confusion.  In sum, collusion per se is not against any law, and specifically Muellerโ€™s โ€œcollusion against the United Statesโ€ does not exist as a crime under US Code or in the Constitution.  The empty charge against Manafort and Gates was just thrown in there for political purposes to convince inattentive minds of a connection to the Trump campaign.

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145 responses to “Mueller Mining the Russia Collusion Confusion (updated 5nov17)”

  1. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    What is established fact is that Trumps Campaign manager has been indicted for Conspiracy Against the United States. I’m sure we can agree on that for a start.

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  2. Russ Avatar

    OK, you lefty fable makers here is some reality from someone with far more experience in Washington, the Diplomad 2.0
    When all the spinning, talking points, and bad/fake news reporting ends, one is left with the irrefutable fact that the Democrats lied about Trump’s links to Russia. They lied BECAUSE, in fact, they were the ones in cahoots with the Russians. Bill and Hillary aided Vlad’s effort to corner the world’s uranium market in exchange for, (drumroll, shocked face) money! Lots of it. Some (around $145 million or so) funneled to the odious criminal organization known as the Clinton Foundation, and other large amounts handed directly to Bill as “speaking fees.”
    The Clintons and Obama were dead certain Hillary would win the election, and all this grotesque corruption and selling out of the nation’s interests would be buried and ignored. Hillary’s campaign and the Democratic Party leadership paid millions to a shady outfit (Fusion GPS) to develop a narrative about Trump being the Ruskies’ Pet Poodle. In violation of US election laws, the Dems paid millions to foreigners, including Russians, to cook up the salacious but very fake “dossier” on Trump and help ensure the election would go Hillary’s way.
    It’s all coming apart now, a massive train wreck.
    Popcorn has never tasted so good . . .

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  3. Russ Avatar

    Paul Emery | 31 October 2017 at 02:20 PM
    Paul, did you read the charge? Hereโ€™s how the indictment related it, saying Manafort and Gates are charged with —
    “knowingly and intentionally [conspiring] to defraud the United States by impeding, impairing, obstructing, and defeating the lawful governmental functions of a government agency, namely the Department of Justice and the Department of the Treasury, and to commit offensives against the United States.”
    The indictment currently relates to the work Manafort and Gates did in support of a Russia-friendly political party in Ukraine and does not have anything to do with the Trump election or indicate anything done wrong by the Trump campaign. The “conspiring” was done years before the Presidential election!
    Do you know how to use a search engine?

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  4. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    Paul…you are right but that’s about the end of it. Manafort is indicted for laundering money among other things long before he was involved with the Trump campaign. Shoot, Trump was not even running for election when this all went down. That said, have you read the indictment? “Company B” in the indictment and the company who was actually doing the lobbying on behalf of Russia/Ukraine is the Podesta Group…as in the same Podesta who was Clinton’s campaign manager. Mueller is just getting started and he will be taking down a lot of lobbyists from both sides, but as we sit here and watch today,there is still absolutely no evidence that Trump’s campaign did anything remotely close to being illegal. Clinton/Podesta? Another question to be answered in due course.

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  5. Steve Frisch Avatar
    Steve Frisch

    Actually Barry, not “the same Podesta who was Clinton’s campaign manager.” The Podesta of Podesta Group is Tony Podesta. John Podesta who was Clinton’s campaign manager left the company in 1993.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podesta_Group

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  6. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Don’t forget about Fynn Barry, high on Muellers list for sure. He’s been real quiet and there is some speculation he might have flipped so to speak. And then there’s the Trumplet with his weak excuse for meeting with the Ruskies that Papa Trump tried to cover up.
    Trump did hire Flynn while he was under investigation by the FBI which makes his judgement questionable.
    Buzz Feed today reports on Flynns vulnerability by reporting:
    “Flynn is arguably responsible for the exact same kinds of crimes as Manafort โ€” that is, acting on behalf of a foreign power and not registering,โ€ said Neal Katyal, a former acting US solicitor general and a professor at Georgetown Law School. โ€œOne way of understanding the Manafort indictment is that Mueller is saying to Flynn, ‘I havenโ€™t indicted you yet, but you know youโ€™re as guilty as Manafort is, you better start cooperating’.”

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  7. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    Yes Steve I agree…but I think that is a distinction without a difference.
    Paul…so what if Flynn did the same thing? Mueller is tasked with bringing cases for illegality. This whole thing will end with a truckload of people getting indicted for failing to register as foreign lobbyists (Clinton camp and people associated with Trump). Nothing will lead to Trump and “collusion,” because even if it did happen (and there is no evidence to suggest that it did), it does not matter legally. “Collusion” is not illegal. In that sense, this whole thing is a witch hunt.

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  8. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Russ
    The first charge against Manafort is Conspiracy against the United States. Here’s a link to details of the crime
    https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE-2011-title18/pdf/USCODE-2011-title18-partI-chap19-sec371.pdf

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  9. Russ Avatar

    Paul,
    Read the words of the charge very carefully, and note who he as conspiring against, it was for not registering, money laundering and tax-evasion not for political collusion. And it all happened before the election, nothing to do with Trump.

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  10. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    You are accurate Russ. That’s enough to put them away for years. Why do you think Trump didn’t know that about Maniforts past before hiring him to run his campaign? Ever hear of vetting Donald?

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  11. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 535pm – Is that an adroit change of subject Paul?

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  12. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Has to do with Manifort George and the nature of charges against him and Trumps judgement for hiring him with that as his background.

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  13. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Obama booted a few in his first term long after the campaign was over. Manifort was sent packing during the campaign. I’d say Trump did just fine.

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  14. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 633pm – Well, if that duck gives you comfort. I suppose your implied allegation against Trump has now equivalent for Hillary’s staff choices, right?

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  15. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    “…Trumps judgement for hiring him with that as his background.”
    Do you have any proof that Trump knew about possible criminal activity that Manafort might have engaged in, Paul? If not – then you have nothing.
    Paul must be exhausted with all of his goal post moving. I could have sworn this all was about Trump’s collusion with Putin to cause Paul’s secret gal Hillary to lose.

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  16. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Scott Obermuller | 31 October 2017 at 07:10 PM
    It doesn’t matter……Punch seems to think that if he heaps enough crap on Trump that somehow, magically Hillary will be installed as president!

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  17. Robert Cross Avatar
    Robert Cross

    The writings put forth by the right appear more and more like a game of backgammon. You know where someone keeps doubling down and doubling down until all hope is lost then they concede at the last second. Excuse after excuse and Bullsh** lame ‘Hillary did this and that’ or ‘Obama screwed the pooch’ responses that are unrelated to the current state of affairs. Face it boys, Trump is a bust. The sooner you stop defending the slouch the better for the country. If you are true patriots and not just ideologues you should recognize, by now, that Trump is bad for the country and the world.

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  18. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Robert Cross | 31 October 2017 at 07:33 PM

    ……..thanks Bobby.

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  19. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Wow, if Trump could turn lead to gold and hand a golden turd to Bobbie he would still diss him. No Bobbie, the economy is humming and the business of America is business and it is coming back under Trump. The reason you can’t agree is simple. For eight years the slobbering press hid Obama and the left’s foibles from you. So I don’t totally blame you for your ignorance. Now that Trump is in and the press is in their hate a conservative mood, it is rubbing off. All your heroes in Hollywood are either coming out and/or raping young boys and girls. I would say your ilk is on the ropes, not mine.

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  20. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Cross as usual bobbie, so we are to give 0 a pass for the mullahs on the march? Lame try there.;-)

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  21. Robert Cross Avatar
    Robert Cross

    Obama is not in office any more Bessee.. you just made the exact lame excuse I was referring to. You are just deflecting the obvious.
    The Hollywood folks are’t my heroes Todd.. too bad your heroes are the nazis. How many wives have you had Todd? I’d be willing to bet they all divorced you instead of the other way around. what does that tell you? Are you like your hero Trump…. a grabber?
    Your welcome fishy. always happy to get your attention.

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  22. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Robert Cross | 31 October 2017 at 08:29 PM
    ……thanks Bobby.

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  23. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The disastrous results of 0 front loading 150 billion before any performance by the mullahs is going to haunt us for a long time, so that’s not gone. 0’s immigration disasters are just being attenuated and we have yet to get a full disclosure on his wiretaps and illegal disclosures. Then we have all the 0 swamp creatures yet to be rooted out of their rat holes. NO bobbie, what’s lame is that you are part of the koolaide drinkers who are happy about the heavy socialist hand that still oppresses the US. Fire all the 0 holdovers and cut the staffs now. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  24. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Fish you are so full of shit. I don’t like Hillary and didn’t vote for her. How can you be so superficial and shallow in your thinking.

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  25. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Now that’s funny @ 1039, just not how the po’ ol’ fakenewsman wants @ 1039. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  26. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    DB 1046, yes, Paul has a blind spot for self parody. Superficial and shallow indeed.
    Paul, you may declare your dislike for Hillary from the hilltops but it was clear you were celebrating her win in the weeks ahead of the election, and wanting Trump’s win reversed in the weeks after the election.

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  27. George Rebane Avatar

    Some people have the ability to concurrently walk on both sides of the street without ever feeling the stretch.

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  28. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    There is that duck again Paul Emery.

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  29. Jaye Smith Avatar

    Russ@330, Diplomad 2.0, is that where you get all your information? Show us some facts please on uraniumgate (birthergate 2.0);
    โ€œThe United States, like Russia, also โ€œalready has all the highly enriched uranium we are ever going to need,โ€ says Owen Cote, associate director of the Security Studies Program at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. With a surplus of highly enriched uranium, both countries stopped making it in the 1960s, Cote notes. (Since 1993, the United States has also purchased highly enriched uranium from decommissioned Russian nuclear weapons as part of a nonproliferation effort. Those ongoing purchases are more significant for nuclear safety than the ownership of Uranium One.) It is not access to raw uranium that makes countries dangerous, but rather the technical capability to enrich it into weapons-grade material and build missiles capable of delivering warheads. โ€œIt really doesnโ€™t matter where uranium comes from,โ€ Cote said.โ€
    โ€˜Uranium One is a Canadian company. Uranium One has exploration projects in Wyoming, Arizona, Colorado and Utah.โ€™
    โ€œThe Uranium One deal required multiple approvals by the U.S., beginning with the Committee on Foreign Investments in the United States. Under federal law, the committee reviews foreign investments that raise potential national security concerns.
    The Committee on Foreign Investments in the United States
    The Committee on Foreign Investments has nine members, including the secretaries of the treasury, state, defense, homeland security, commerce and energy; the attorney general; and representatives from two White House offices (the United States Trade Representative and the Office of Science and Technology Policy).
    The committee canโ€™t actually stop a sale from going through โ€” it can only approve a sale. The president is the only one who can stop a sale, if the committee or any one member โ€œrecommends suspension or prohibition of the transaction,โ€ according to guidelines issued by the Treasury Department in December 2008 after the department adopted its final rule a month earlier.
    For this and other reasons, we have written that Trump is wrong to claim that Clinton โ€œgave away 20 percent of the uranium in the United Statesโ€ to Russia. Clinton could have objected โ€” as could the eight other voting members โ€” but that objection alone wouldnโ€™t have stopped the sale of the stake of Uranium One to Rosatom.
    โ€œOnly the President has the authority to suspend or prohibit a covered transaction,โ€ the federal guidelines say.โ€
    โ€œIt is also important to note that other federal approvals were needed to complete the deal, and even still more approvals would be needed to export the uranium.
    First, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission had to approve the transfer of two uranium recovery licenses in Wyoming from Uranium One to the Russian company. The NRC announced it approved the transfer on Nov. 24, 2010. But, as the NRC explained at the time, โ€œno uranium produced at either facility may be exported.โ€
    As NRC explained in a March 2011 letter to Republican Sen. John Barrasso of Wyoming, the Russian company would have to apply for and obtain an export license and โ€œcommit to use the material only for peaceful purposesโ€ in accordance with โ€œthe U.S.-Russia Atomic Energy Act Section 123 agreement for peaceful nuclear cooperation.โ€
    In a June 2015 letter to Rep. Peter Visclosky, the NRC said it granted RSB Logistics Services an amendment to its export license in 2012 to allow the Kentucky shipping company to export uranium to Canada from various sources โ€” including from a Uranium One site in Wyoming. The NRC said that the export license allowed RSB to ship uranium to a conversion plant in Canada and then back to the United States for further processing.
    Canada must obtain U.S. approval to transfer any U.S. uranium to any country other than the United States, the letter says.
    โ€œPlease be assured that no Uranium One, Inc.-produced uranium has been shipped directly to Russia and the U.S. Government has not authorized any country to re-transfer U.S. uranium to Russia,โ€ the 2015 letter said.
    โ€œThat 2015 statement remains true today,โ€ David McIntyre, a spokesman for the NRC, told us in an email.
    RSB Logisticsโ€™ current export license, which expires in December, still lists Uranium One as one of its suppliers of uranium.
    Uranium One, which is now wholly-owned subsidiary of Rosatom, sells uranium to civilian power reactors in the United States, according to the Energy Information Administration. But U.S. owners and operators of commercial nuclear reactors purchase the vast majority of their uranium from foreign sources. Only 11 percent of the 50.6 million pounds purchased in 2016 came from U.S. domestic producers, according to the EIA.
    Although Uranium One holds 20 percent of currently licensed uranium in-situ recovery production capacity in the U.S., the company was responsible for only about 11 percent of U.S. uranium production in 2014, according to 2015 congressional testimony by a Department of Energy contractor.โ€
    http://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/facts-uranium-one/

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  30. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 31 October 2017 at 10:39 PM
    Fish you are so full of shit. I don’t like Hillary and didn’t vote for her. How can you be so superficial and shallow in your thinking.

    Sorry Punch but Greg is right.

    “Paul, you may declare your dislike for Hillary from the hilltops but it was clear you were celebrating her win in the weeks ahead of the election, and wanting Trump’s win reversed in the weeks after the election.

    …..and so delightfully transparent in your biases too!

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  31. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Never celebrated her win Fish. If you read what I wrote at the time you would see that I repeatedly characterized the elections as a failure of our election system to present us with two such disgusting options. Failure of the two party monopoly of our so called Democracy. did I think she would win? Yes, odds were 75% in her favor at the time of the election.

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  32. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 01 November 2017 at 09:17 AM
    Well you can take the celebration issue up with Greg Punch. Frankly it sounds like your schtick!
    I reiterate that your protestation notwithstanding, had Hillary managed to pull it off you wouldn’t be breathlessly delivering poll results daily and offering “It’s gonna be funโ€ฆ.” everytime some slack jawed media yokel thinks they’ve found the newest scandal that’s going to bring down the Trump administration!
    As a self declared Green Libertarianโ„ข, when presented with the choice of two evils you should have been mildly relieved when the lesser managed to win the election!

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  33. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Fish, the lesser of two evils is still evil.

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  34. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 01 November 2017 at 10:31 AM
    Fish, the lesser of two evils is still evil.

    โ€ฆ.and your point is?

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  35. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery the duck. We all see it and read your trip[e and biases all the time yet you deny it. Bi-Polar?

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  36. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Speaks for itself Fish

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  37. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Trump is now reported to be turning on his family. How low can he go?
    “Speaking to Steve Bannon on Tuesday, Trump blamed Jared Kushner for his role in decisions, specifically the firings of Mike Flynn and James Comey, that led to Muellerโ€™s appointment, according to a source briefed on the call. When Roger Stone recently told Trump that Kushner was giving him bad political advice, Trump agreed, according to someone familiar with the conversation Trump said . โ€œJared is the worst political adviser in the White House in modern history, Iโ€™m only saying publicly what everyone says behind the scenes at Fox News, in conservative media, and the Senate and Congress.โ€

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  38. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 01 November 2017 at 10:53 AM
    Speaks for itself Fish

    Whatever Punchโ€ฆโ€ฆ!

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  39. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Looks like hollywood is following the lead of our pussy grabbing braggart Commander of Chief.
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/brett-ratner-accused-sexual-harassment_us_59f9be37e4b0d1cf6e91b8af?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

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  40. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Wow
    126 million saw Russian ads on Facebook designed to support Trump
    “Elliot Schrage, Facebookโ€™s vice-president of policy and communications, said on 2 October that the advertisements appeared to focus on โ€œdivisive social and political messages across the ideological spectrum, touching on topics from LGBT matters to race issues to immigration to gun rightsโ€.
    Update
    In today’s Congressional hearings the number has been upped to 150 million

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  41. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Oh Oh Sessions may be guilty or perjury.
    “Papadopoulos told other committee members, and Trump himself, about his contacts with Russia during a March 31, 2016, meeting โ€” and proposed arranging for the Republican candidate to meet with Russian president Vladimir Putin.
    According to a CNN report Wednesday, Trump โ€œdidnโ€™t say yes and he didnโ€™t say no.โ€
    But Sessions, then an Alabama senator and chairman of his national security team, shut down the proposal, according to one person present for the meeting and confirmed by another source.
    The guilty plea shows Papadopoulos continued trying to arrange a meeting between campaign officials and Russia until at least August 2016.
    J.D. Gordon, a former Pentagon spokesman and Trump campaign national security adviser who attended the meeting, told CNN that Papadopoulos โ€œobviously went to great lengths to go around me and Sen. Sessions.โ€
    Thereโ€™s no evidence at this point to contradict Gordonโ€™s claim โ€” but the new revelations still leave Sessions in a position where heโ€™s damned if he does, and damned if he doesnโ€™t.
    โ€œThe good news for Sessions is that he can plausibly claim to have opposed any Russian collusion,โ€ writes the New Republicโ€˜s Jeet Heer. โ€œThe bad news is that, in making those claims, he opens himself up to charges of perjury.โ€
    https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/01/politics/trump-putin-meeting/index.html

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  42. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Still burdened by lack of comprehension issues in the above, do you even read your own links ya po’ ol’ fakenewsman? ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  43. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery has a derangement syndrome.

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  44. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Pretty simple Don. If sessions agrees that he vetoed the Russia proposal he admits he discussed it with Staff and therefore committing perjury. Can you comprehend that?
    “But Sessions, then an Alabama senator and chairman of his national security team, shut down the proposal, according to one person present for the meeting and confirmed by another source.”

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  45. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Boring response Todd. Come on. You can do better than that.

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  46. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1128am – Your TDS dominates Paul. Hollywood led the way to “pussy grabbing” even before Trump was born. If anything, that wayward Trump comment caught on tape was also made on a Hollywood lot to a member of the fellowship. You seem to have a habit of reversing the timeline of events when your ideology is ascendant.

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  47. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Oh Oh More bad news for Trump this time from Fox News and RR’s favorite judge.
    “Fox News’ Judge Napolitano told Shep Smith that he believes George Papadopoulos wore a wire to get a reduced sentence, noting his belief that this is the tip of the iceberg in Mueller’s investigations.
    In a very long and detailed segment with Fox News’ Shepard Smith, Judge Napolitano was very candid about what the plea deal George Papadopoulos reached with the FBI might mean for the Trump administration.
    Smith said, “Analysts say Robert Mueller’s decision to reveal all of this now sends a message that Papadopoulos could be giving the special counsel some key information. Fox News senior judicial analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano is here. You think he wore a wire.”
    Judge Nap replied, “I think he wore a wire.
    Smith replied, “You’re not alone.”
    The judge explained that his was a very unusual plea agreement because “it occurred in secret.”

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  48. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Well George, Trumps comments certainly shows that he condones such behavior and that he is a braggard about his personal exploits as a celebrity who can take advantage of women because he’s famous and they are helpless to deny him. He certainly verified he is part of the club.

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  49. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery, you really are deranged. I sat next to three older babes at the LaMalfa townhall and all three had a pussy hat on. How do you feel that is something young girls should see? And Sessions cannot be tried for anything if he breaks his “recusal”. Not a legal issue.

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