233 responses to “Sandbox – 31aug17”

1. 

   fish

   31 August 2017

   Good news Punch……there’s travel in your future.
   

   Russia to blast frozen dead people and pets into space…

   …..and you get to bring your cat!
   http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/russian-scientists-blast-dead-people-11086403

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   George Rebane

   31 August 2017

   “My fear is if North Korea nukes us, Trump gonna get us into a war.”, Maxine Waters (D-CA). NAACP should really pull the plug on her, and that other congressman (Hank Johnson, D-GA) who feared that Guam would tip over and sink from over-population.
   [Correction] The Waters quote appears to be a fake –
   http://www.snopes.com/maxine-waters-north-korea/
   that may have been fabricated from her comments to avoid war with NK at all costs –
   http://www.tmz.com/2017/08/10/maxine-waters-north-korea-war-trump-diplomacy/

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   Todd Juvinall

   31 August 2017

   Paul Emery thanks for the link but honestly you really are desperate to say what you said about what Eric Trump said about his dad. Here it is.
   ““If they weren’t talking about you, you wouldn’t be doing something right and it’s important to keep it in context, otherwise quite frankly you’d probably end up killing yourself out of depression,” Eric Trump said. “But he’s doing a great job.”
   Now please tell us all how you parsed this to make the claim you did? Really a stretch on your part. And the whole article was fine, you really have to have warped intellect to say what you said.

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   George Rebane

   31 August 2017

   ToddJ 905am – great illustration of the genesis of fake news Todd.

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   Todd Juvinall

   31 August 2017

   You are so right. When I hear the “both sides have good people” crap I think the same thing. Trump said that there were people there at the statue that were only there for that. They were who he was talking about. But the press morphed that into their fake news mantra that he is talking about the KKK and nazis.

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   George Boardman

   31 August 2017

   The two Republican senators and 20 congressmen from Texas voted against aid for the victims of Superstorm Sandy because the money wasn’t offset with dollar-for-dollar cuts in other domestic spending.
   Do you think they’ll make the same demand when it comes time to vote on aid for victims of Harvey? Probably not.

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7. 

   fish

   31 August 2017

   Posted by: George Boardman | 31 August 2017 at 09:40 AM
   Probably not.

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   Bun Bun

   31 August 2017

   Texans are paying the piper now with explosions at chemical plants and their cities and homes stewing in a toxic hydrocarbon soup. I wonder is they are still loving the idea of the Bakken pipeline bringing in more petrochemicals to be processed and shipped overseas while they have to live with the pollution?
   The Gulf of Mexico is already half dead from pollutants washed down the Mississippi.
   The good news is that the Mexicans are coming to save the Texans. I wonder if they will be able to make it across the border. Somebody call Trump!
   Where is the Bush tribe holed up?

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   Michael R. Kesti

   31 August 2017

   George Rebane | 31 August 2017 at 09:04 AM
   I have found claims that this quote of Waters is a fabrication and I am unable to find a video of her saying it. Can you provide a link to such a video or any supporting and credible report?

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10. 

    Paul Emery

    31 August 2017

    Todd
    Would you as a “good person” march arm in arm with Nazi’s and White nationalists?

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11. 

    Bill Tozer

    31 August 2017

    Around and around it goes, where it stops nobody knows.
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1158191870981515/?type=3&theater
    Things I did NOT post recently: re: fashion bug.
    A) The story of Melania Trump wearing a ballcap with FLOTUS printed across the cap. Twitter was going at it. She was wearing a hat that is on The Donald’s business website for profit, not for the Hurricane Harvey relief funds!!!!! GREED! Using the hurricane evacuees for personal enrichment!!!! The sky is falling.
    Come to find out, President Trump’s USA hat is indeed for sale on the site, not the First Lady’s hat. Knockoffs can be found everywhere, including Craig’s list.
    Comments ranged from she looks darling to “why is she walking behind Donald Trump departing the helicopter?” “She wears that hat because she cannot remember what her name is”. “She is behind him because she likes her nose up his butt” and in and on it goes. Not worth pasting links. No worth reading.
    B) The story from the past when the fashion critics and us little people were so upset when Michelle Obama wore $495.00 snickers to pass out bags of food at a food bank. How inappropriate! Unseemingly. Tone deaf to the hungry’ plight.
    I forgot how petty things can get, even during the Obama years. BTW, Melania wore $60.00 Adidas to Houston, if you care. I don’t and not worthy of RR.
    2) Things I wished I posted, but did not, concerning the President and First Lady’s visit to Houston and not getting mud of her stilettos.
    https://www.facebook.com/texassheriffsdeputies/photos/a.260178287503583.1073741828.259929834195095/763905210464219/?type=3&theater
    https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/2017/08/meet-the-vogue-writer-who-criticized-flotuss-shoes-warning-graphic/
    And on and on it goes…….

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12. 

    Todd Juvinall

    31 August 2017

    PE 954
    Of course not. I haye nazis and the KKK. They are your ilk anyway and they are like you, full of hate. I try not to hate anyone. Why don’t you try it? And would you march arm in arm with them yourself Paul Emery? You seem more like them than any Republican I know.

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13. 

    Todd Juvinall

    31 August 2017

    My recollection about the votes on Sandy were this. The R’s were making a statement that the PORK (earmarks) added to the bill and non-germane, needed to be removed before they would vote for it. So GeorgeB is spreading “fake news” as usual.

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14. 

    Todd Juvinall

    31 August 2017

    Here Paul Emery etal. Read Wes’ list of accomplishments and cry me a river.
    Wes Hawkins
    Here’s the first 100 days of Trump:
    1. Supreme Court Judge Gorsuch supports Constitutional Law
    2. 59 missiles dropped in Syria.
    3. No longer in TPP
    4. Illegal immigration is now down 70%( the lowest in 17 years)
    5. Consumer confidence highest since 2000 at index 125.6
    6. Mortgage applications for new homes rise to a 7 year high.
    7. Arranged 20% Tariff on soft lumber from Canada.
    8. Bids for border wall are well underway.
    9. Pulled out of the lopsided Paris accord.
    10. Keystone pipeline approved.
    11. NATO allies boost spending by 4.3%
    12. Allowing VA to terminate bad employees.
    13. Allowing private healthcare choices for veterans.
    14. More than 600,000 Jobs created
    15. Median household income at a 7 year high.
    16. The Stock Market is at the highest ever in its history.
    17. China agreed to import American beef.
    18. $89 Billion saved in regulation rollbacks.
    19. Boosted energy independence.
    20. MOAB for ISIS
    21. Travel ban reinstated.
    22. Executive order for religious freedom.
    23. Jump started NASA
    24. $600 million cut/saved from UN peacekeeping budget.
    25. Targeting of MS13 gangs
    26. Deporting violent illegal immigrants.
    27. Signed 41 bills to date
    28. Created a commission on child trafficking
    29. Created a commission on voter fraud
    30. Created a commission for opioids addiction.
    31. Giving power to states to drug test unemployment recipients.
    32. Unemployment lowest since May 2007.
    33. Historic Black College University initiative
    34. Women In Entrepreneurship Act
    35. Created an office for illegal immigrant crime victims.
    36. Reversed Dodd-Frank
    37. Repealed DOT ruling which would have taken power away from local governments for infrastructure planning
    38. Order to stop crime against law enforcement.
    39. End of DAPA program.
    40. Stopped companies from moving out of America.
    41. Promoted businesses to create American Jobs.
    42. Encouraged country to once again “Buy American” and hire American
    43. Communicates directly to American people via Twitter without spin of hostile media
    44. Cutting regulations – two for every one created.
    45. Review of all trade agreements to make sure they are America First
    46. Apprentice program
    47. Highest manufacturing surge in 3 years.
    48 $78 Billion promised Reinvestment FROM major businesses like Exxon, Bayer, Apple, SoftBank, Toyota…
    49. Denied FBI a new building.
    50. $700 million saved with F-35 renegotiation.
    51. Saves $22 million by reducing white house payroll.
    52. Department of Treasury reports a $182 billion surplus for April 2017 (2nd largest in history.)
    53. Negotiated the release of 6 US humanitarian workers held captive in Egypt.
    54. Gas prices lowest in more than 12 years.
    55. Signed an Executive Order To Promote Energy Independence And Economic Growth
    56. Has already accomplished more to stop government interference into people’s lives than any President in the history of America.
    57. President Trump has worked with Congress to pass more legislation in his first 100 days than any President since Truman.
    58. Has given head executive of each branches 6 month time Frame dated march 15 2017, to trim the fat, restructure and improve efficiency of their branch.
    59. What’s the difference between Presidents Trump and Obama? Approximately $1 Trillion! President Obama increased the US debt in his first 6 months by $1 Trillion more than President Trump! As of March, President Trump had decreased the US Debt since his inauguration by a -$103 Billion.

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    Bill Tozer

    31 August 2017

    Todd @ 10:31
    1) My recollection about votes on Sandy were this: Senator Ted Cruz (R-Tx) was opposed to Sandy relief bill because he pointed out specifically 2/3 of the funding contained had zero to do with the clear up, aftermath, or aid relief to those affected by Sandy.
    2) Fish answered Boardman’s question nicely.
    3) Todd again. Perhaps a shorter answer to Punchy’s question, “Have you stopped beating your wife yet”, or more fundamentally, “Have you stopped tossing cute adorable puppies off the overpass?” @ 9:54am might be answered with a simple meme.
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1158189710981731/?type=3&theater
    And on and on it goes…..

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16. 

    Russ Steele

    31 August 2017

    Anyone looking for a job?
    Job Title
    Regional Finance Director
    Company Name
    Swift Communications, Inc.
    Job LocationGrass Valley, California
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17. 

    fish

    31 August 2017

    Posted by: Bill Tozer | 31 August 2017 at 10:29 AM
    Actually Boardman answered Boardmans question…..I merely concurred with his assessment.

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18. 

    George Rebane

    31 August 2017

    MichaelK 949am – Thanks for the catch Mr Kesti. I have addended a correction to my comment.

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19. 

    Bill Tozer

    31 August 2017

    Michael R. Kesti:
    Blame me. I posted that meme myself around 21, August. Thought nobody read my stuff. Hmmm. Mea Culpa to Dr. Rebane, all readers, and all non-fakenews citizen journalists. I was wrong. But in all fairness, we know what she was thinking. We know what she really meant. 🙂

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20. 

    Michael R. Kesti

    31 August 2017

    Bill Tozer | 31 August 2017 at 10:50 AM
    Emoticon noted I nonetheless insist that I know no such things. Please do not speak for me.

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21. 

    Bill Tozer

    31 August 2017

    Fish @ 10:34 am
    It’s all speculation at this point. Like saying tax reform, or The Wall will never happen. “My concerns are blah, blah, blah, Putin will eat Trump’s lunch because Trump has no foreign policy experience, blah, blah, blah. It will all come out in the wash. Probably so.

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22. 

    Todd Juvinall

    31 August 2017

    Seems there is some confusion about definitions. The outraged libs say a “white nationalist” is a nazi.. I say maybe they mean a “white supremacist”? Anyone want to tackle that?

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23. 

    Michael R. Kesti

    31 August 2017

    Todd Juvinall | 31 August 2017 at 12:41 PM
    Wikipedia defines white nationalism is a type of nationalism which holds the belief that white people are a race and seeks to develop and maintain a white national identity. They define white supremacy as a subgroup of white nationalism whose adherents seek a white-only state because they believe that white people are superior to nonwhites.

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24. 

    fish

    31 August 2017

    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 31 August 2017 at 12:41 PM
    The outraged libs say a “white nationalist” is a nazi.. I say maybe they mean a “white supremacist”? Anyone want to tackle that?
    Lets be honest….anyone who isn’t in lockstep with Plan Proglodyte is, in their eyes, a Nazi. What you’re seeing now is the utterance of terms not in common use (Alt Right, White Nationalist, Alt Lite, etc.) two years ago now being associated with Nazi in an attempt to stigmatize them. There have been many similar efforts in the past by the left, most recently associating the terms “Tea Party” and Tea Partier” with “Racist” and “Homophobe”.

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25. 

    Don Bessee

    31 August 2017

    Is anyone surprised that disgraced former FBI director Comey was drafting the exoneration of madam liar liar pantsuits on fire long before the investigation was over? It was also long before they had the sham interview of shrillary and her minions. 😉

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26. 

    Bun Bun

    31 August 2017

    Oh Donnie, Hillary is as pure as the driven snow compared to the chief liar and reality show president.

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27. 

    George Boardman

    31 August 2017

    Once again, Todd shows his selective “recollection” of the facts in his 10:13. Try recollecting this:
    After the Texas gang couldn’t get dollar-for-dollar cuts in domestic spending, Cruz started claiming the bill was full of pork. If there was any pork in that bill, it was Republican approved pork because they controlled both houses of Congress then. I guess Todd didn’t recollect that.
    Then there was Chris Christie, who was vilified by his fellow Republicans for thanking Obama for acting so quickly. So much for bringing the country together when a natural disaster strikes.
    Now I see the governor of Texas wants to start the bidding at $125 billion. Those independent, resourceful Texans can be mighty resourceful with other people’s money.

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28. 

    Don Bessee

    31 August 2017

    GB must be huffing his white out again, the senate was Dem in 2012. 😉

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29. 

    Bill Tozer

    31 August 2017

    Ben Emery once took great pains to educate posters here the difference between liberals and progressives. There is a true difference, but in general practice I lump them together. Likewise, I was curious to know what “Alt-right ” meant after watching a clip of Milo on a campus appearance roll his eyes and politely told the questioner from the audience that he is definitely not “alt-right”.
    I posed the question to the readers here what Alt-Right means. I had been using the term loosely. Two readers posted this link…or a similar one.
    http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/03/29/an-establishment-conservatives-guide-to-the-alt-right/
    The term gets thrown around loosely, as does Nazi, Commie, Liberal. The White Supremists and Black Supremacists believe, as did the Nazis, in the superiority of one race over other races.. Don’t know about La Raza now. They use to be Supremacists.
    In terms of what has happened in just the last 2 weeks alone, the Left has attempted to equate racists (or Nazis) with Trump with Trump supporters with anyone who voted Republican. If not a Nazi, then a Nazi/White Supremacist sympathizer. It gets all lumped into racism. Nazi is the new term for racism and vice versa.
    The Left is making a strong push to make the word ‘Republican’ a supporter of racism, if not a overt racist. Hard to keep up.
    https://youtu.be/I7U7wvlMisA

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30. 

    Don Bessee

    31 August 2017

    The 4 finalists for the concrete boarder wall prototypes have been announced and will shortly be building their designs in the San Diego area. The 4 see through prototypes are going to be announced soon. The test and evaluation period is going to be 6 months then the final designs will be chosen and built. 😉

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    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    31 August 2017

    “I posed the question to the readers here what Alt-Right means.”
    It has changed quite a lot over time. At one point, it was thought of as a coalition of non-traditional conservatives, mostly internet based.
    Example:
    http://takimag.com/article/the_decline_and_rise_of_the_alternative_right
    http://takimag.com/article/economism_in_the_alt_right/print
    You can also see the difference in Wikipedia edits over the last couple of years. Wikipedia has it’s own agenda of course.
    It’s a good catchy term, so you mostly see the White Nationalists co-opting it now. Depending on your point of view, those groups are either made up of the Caucasian version of the NAACP or are Nazis. A quick look at any essays they write should clear that up, although it’s best to get your news from other people. I’m having a heck of a time finding anything written by Richard Spencer, but I’ll cast around a bit.

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32. 

    fish

    31 August 2017

    Posted by: Bun Bun | 31 August 2017 at 01:31 PM
    That’s loopy even by your standards Keach Keach!

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33. 

    Todd Juvinall

    31 August 2017

    : George Boardman | 31 August 2017 at 01:59 PM
    Looks like GeorgeB is doing his fake news again. Since he supplied no links all he said was from his own noggin and at his age, not to reliable. My recollection is there was a lot of “earmarks” and wasted money having nothing to do with the damage. The Tea Party people were agauibst sopending the money on other things as listed in the bill. So GeorgeB, please if you are going to diss someone for not reporting something you deem correct, look in the mirror first.

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34. 

    Todd Juvinall

    31 August 2017

    Here is one link that explains the pork laden Sandy bill. Read it GeorgeyB.
    http://legalinsurrection.com/2017/08/fake-news-opposition-to-original-hurricane-sandy-aid-bill-makes-republicans-hypocrites/

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    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    31 August 2017

    “The 4 finalists for the concrete border wall prototypes”
    You would think that would have been an ongoing design problem, it isn’t like there wasn’t a bunch of walls and barriers built already, and you definitely learn more with usage.
    I’ve had the impression that the Obama administration just gave a wink and a nod to any border enforcement, while throwing the odd raw meat to people who are actually in favor of existing immigration law. The business with ‘increasing’ apprehensions while merely redefining the word was a nice case in point. I suppose that the physical system of border control has been starved of funds for years.
    A really useful set of articles would be ones written by now-retired BP officers about their experiences over the last 20 years or so. It might have been worse or better than thought and might actually be more accurate than learning about such things at Infowars or the Daily Kos.
    As GeorgeR mentioned before, an effective system will be a combination of physical barriers, car barriers, sensors, human beings, communications…ie more and better of what is there already. The point of an exercise like that is to lower border crossings to a desired level, not to eradicate them. This business of building a 12 foot ladder for the 10 foot fence is pure sophistry, no system needs to be 100% tight.

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36. 

    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    31 August 2017

    re: Fish@12:54
    “There have been many similar efforts in the past by the left, most recently associating the terms “Tea Party” and Tea Partier” with “Racist” and “Homophobe”. ”
    Absolutely, but it does work to a large extent for rallying the troops. I always thought how unfairly and rather nastily the Tea Partistas were dealt with given that it appeared to be a group mostly made up of very well-meaning older people. I suppose it was a good education in political reality for a bunch of civilized middle-class people.
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/9/texas-professor-teaches-students-tea-party-akin-to/
    same as it ever was:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dawn-teo/video-scuffle-ensues-when_b_358152.html
    I think that the newish primary, and really important difference is the ages of the participants. Not only is there a very activist right wing of all flavors out and about, largely under 40, but I suspect you’ll find that kids in high school (and before) have very different politics than their parents (lol. no surprise there).

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37. 

    Don Bessee

    31 August 2017

    I wonder what’s up with Milwaukee Sheriff Clark’s resignation? 😉

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38. 

    Walt

    31 August 2017

    A good friend of mine is involved with these guys. He’s on the road as I speak.
    https://operationbbqrelief.org/
    “Operation BBQ Relief is mobilizing assets and securing resources to address the impending destruction that currently is in the path of Hurricane Harvey”
    Now that I know about this fine ORG. I will be joining the local Ca. chapter.
    Have smoker will travel.

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39. 

    Walt

    31 August 2017

    Where is Bill?? Word of caution my friend,, we will be working out your way fixing potholes. No extra points for taking out my laborers. Plenty of your road association members have tried extra hard this morning.

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40. 

    Paul Emery

    31 August 2017

    For your reading pleasure:
    Trump now down 17 in the Conservative Rasmussen Poll. By far historic low polling. 30 point drop in Rasmussen since January. No end in sight as Trump can do no more than appeal to his core which is 26% according to Rasmussen-thats the “strongly support” numbers used to calculate core support. This is the most conservative poll and the one Trump used to brag about. Hope he doesn’t see it. Could cause depression and whatever according to his son
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

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41. 

    Paul Emery

    31 August 2017

    To hear the interview with Trump Jr where he expresses concern about his dads depression and potential suicidal tendency go here
    https://www.iheart.com/podcast/The-Joe-Pags-Show-22959056/episode/interview-eric-trump-on-the-joe-28420764/

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42. 

    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    31 August 2017

    Well now, this is interesting. And not a thing you’ll see in the local paper.
    http://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/news/crime–law/fight-reopen-teen-sex-case-against-jeff-epstein-may-set-precedent/hxt8lQgkABEc59vrbz8teK/
    So what happens if they decide to reopen or retry Bill Clinton’s BFF Mr Epstein? The wife isn’t there to protect him, darn the luck.
    Bill Clinton + Lolita Express = Sleaziness Level 10

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43. 

    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    31 August 2017

    You gotta love these people.

    James Comey started drafting statement exonerating Hillary Clinton before FBI interviewed her, aides

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/james-comey-started-drafting-statement-exonerating-hillary-clinton-before-fbi-interviewed-her-aides/article/2633095

    Every day I think about the bullet we dodged.

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44. 

    Walt

    31 August 2017

    Keep going Paul, consider your poll obsession combined with TDS “credibility suicide”.

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45. 

    Walt

    31 August 2017

    Paul. Dirty Harry really needs to go to prison.
    http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/31/harry-reid-asked-obama-wh-to-help-menendezs-donor/
    Lets get the investigation started.

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46. 

    George Rebane

    31 August 2017

    Dear People – recall that sandboxes are for discussing topics that are NOT subjects of my recent posts. Please use those posts of mine for your appropriately topical comments. Contrary to what may be advertised, sandboxes are not repositories for all your thoughts. Thank you.

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47. 

    Walt

    31 August 2017

    This is where I say,,”I told ya’ so.
    http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/08/31/new-california-high-initiative-to-legalize-psychedelic-mushrooms-proposed/
    Weed is barely legal, and the next mind bender is trotted out for legalization.

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48. 

    Bill Tozer

    31 August 2017

    Walt.
    My group that consists of the “road association” has not met for a few years. It’s voluntary, which means take care of the part of road that is on your property….if you can. To me, that means a lot of thinking about how to fill a pothole and knocking down the grass along the lane no later than June 1st. You must be working for a real association with rules and by-laws, lol. Technically I am on a public road, so let the county do it…in my dreams. Ah, they probably would get lost. Don’t have no signs up, take your best guess…on how to find your way out of here. I might drive around Melody looking for some flag people. Add them to my collection of the white silhouette stick ” family” on the rear window, just like a white family does. :).

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49. 

    Gregory

    31 August 2017

    Here’s a bit of followup on Heidi Hall’s 0.22 breathalyzer reading… someone with a pilot’s certificate apparently has to submit a substance abuse evaluation if it’s .15 or higher. That will require you to locate a licensed counselor in substance abuse/dependence, or a psychologist or psychiatrist who has extra training in addiction medicine, and be evaluated. Depending on the results of the evaluation, you may be required to provide even more extensive (and expensive) evaluations. If your breathalyzer is less than the 0.15 percent, then you may need to do nothing else.
    In short, the FAA seems to think that if you blow over .15%, you’re a habitual drinker until proven otherwise.
    Supervisor Hall’s BAC is nearly 50% over the .15% limit for not having to really bare your soul to someone expecting you’ve been hiding that drinking you’ve been doing. Of course, she’s not flying an airplane. How much has she been drinking during the day…? Before voting as a Supervisor?
    Local artiste Judith Lowry believes Hall to be a lady and has never seen her drinking to excesss… isn’t that special?

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    Gregory

    31 August 2017

    Oh, and until further notice if you’ve blown over the legal limit, your FAA medical certificate is effectively and immediately suspended until the FAA reinstates it, and the pilot is required to volunteer the information to the FAA within a few days of the arrest.

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