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George Rebane

[This is the addended transcript of my regular KVMR commentary broadcast on 16 August 2017.]

The Charlottesville clash is metastasizing across the country.  In these look-alike demonstrations, the Civil War and all that it entails has become the latest collision point of several ideological and political agendas.  For those able to handle historical nuances, our Civil War was not a civil war, but a War for Southern Independence, or more neutrally, the War Between the States.  In a real civil war, each side wants to wind up in control of the entire country.  But since time is short, we’ll call it a ‘Civil War’ in the sequel.

That in 1865 the South, among its other objectives, wanted to perpetuate slavery is today enough to charge anyone, who wants to retain reminders of that bloody conflict, with a long list of additional social sins.  For example, to defend the continued acceptance of statuary, paintings, plaques, and other symbols that memorialize that conflict in the South, is to be cast as a white supremacist who longs for the day when the blacks can again be enslaved.  And the promotion of American nationalism immediately equates with the hidden objectives of white nationalism – in short, such people are identified simply as rank racists.

So, to assure that these symbols of social injustice will disappear from our land, our politically correct factions outdo each other to demand removal of all such blatant displays of our despicable past.  Hence, we see statues of Confederate leaders and soldiers being toppled, and hear new cries to take down Civil War paintings in state houses and heroic facades from their exteriors.  And in the exercise of exquisite chutzpah, the Council on American-Islamic Relations joins in the demand that every Confederate memorial in the US be torn down.

The reasonable underpinnings for these progressive and alt-left sentiments are hard to understand.  Where do we stop destroying and removing symbols of past ages that conflict with our revised and ever-changing cultural tenets; where do we stop blotting out reminders of the inconvenient eras that really happened; and with warts and all, that are still a part of our history?

Do we follow the presumably sincere and heartfelt sentiments of ISIS and the Taliban who vandalize and destroy historical artifacts they consider hateful and even blasphemous to their God?  According to the tenets of their culture, such monuments and artifacts are an affront to the very foundation of our universe.  What about removing all evidence of the Roman Empire, a regime that conquered, ravaged, and enslaved so much of the world?  And was it not the Arabs in the first millennium who opened up the African slave trade along that continent’s east coast; do we also tear down the symbols of Arabic faith and glory?  And then throw in the Judeo-Christian scriptures and manifold artifacts abetting slavery.  To complete the job here in our foothills, hydraulic monitors were used in the Sierra to wash away entire mountain sides, polluting rivers and spoiling the livelihood of farmers in the valley below, all in the fevered search for gold.  Should we also remove these proudly-displayed symbols of exploitation and destruction erected in gold country towns that now memorialize that history?


However, on deeper reflection, today’s attacks on the historical Confederacy can also be seen as the next opportune and expedient battle in the ongoing war on America and western culture.  In this war, the white supremacists and neo-Nazis are the conveniently useful idiots who unwittingly aid the assault on the west when they extol the virtues of the Confederacy, and by implication slavery.  Were that their aim, these public demonstrations are an extremely destructive attempt to promote and sustain western culture.

But the whole affair reveals the real agenda now playing out in America, to equate white nationalism with western culture in the minds of the lightly informed, as our Left continues to forge a path to autocratic globalism.  The globalist elites know that as long as a significant number of the earth’s people cling to tenets of western culture, there is little hope of convincing countries to forsake their sovereignty, and replace it with one overarching world government.

My name is Rebane, and I also expand on this and related themes on Rebane’s Ruminations where the addended transcript of this commentary is posted with relevant links, and where such issues are debated extensively.  However, my views are not necessarily shared by KVMR.  Thank you for listening.

Addendum – It is again interesting but not surprising to note that the Left is finally beginning to understand the deep schism that rends our country.  The formerly denied Great Divide, and one that may arrive violently, is even now coming up on their usually dimly lit and perennially askew radar.  Charlottesville may then be remembered as our Fort Sumter redux.  Most of us hope that there will be a better resolution.

(It’s also interesting to see how the Left deports itself when they come in conflict with the feds on their deeply held beliefs – they just say no.  I’ve promoted that same policy with our Board of Supervisors regarding the county kowtowing to regulations from above that stifle our growth and local economy.  Smarter heads have explained to me how that is impossible to do (at least for a right-leaning BoS).  Well, now we have examples all over the place, and like I predicted, it all started with one sanctuary city and then went viral.  We’ll see how it all plays out with AG Sessions at DoJ helm.)

Since the preservation of western culture is prominently featured in my aired commentary, we should start by defining what it is.  Turns out that Wikipedia has a very useful definition with which I, in the main, agree.

“Western culture, sometimes equated with Western civilization, Occidental culture, the Western world, Western society, European civilization, or Judeo-Greco-Christian civilization, is a term used very broadly to refer to a heritage of social normsethical valuestraditional customsbelief systemspolitical systems and specific artifacts and technologies that have some origin or association with Europe. The term also applies beyond Europe, to countries and cultures whose histories are strongly connected to Europe by immigration, colonization, or influence. For example, Western Culture includes countries in the Americas and Australasia, whose language and demographic ethnicity (and) majorities are currently European.

Western culture is characterized by a host of artistic, philosophic, literary and legal themes and traditions; the heritage of GreekRomanJewish, Germanic, CelticSlavic and other ethnic and linguistic groups, as well as Middle Eastern Christianity including the Roman Catholic Church, and the Orthodox Church, which played an important part in the shaping of Western civilization since at least the 4th century. The teachings of Jesus, such as the Parable of the Good Samaritan, are among the important sources for modern notions of Human Rights and the welfare measures commonly provided by governments in the West. Before the Cold War era, the traditional Western viewpoint identified Western Civilization with the Western Christian (CatholicProtestant) countries and culture.”

With regard to the ongoing demonstrations, there is a clear answer for the Left when asked, ‘Is it possible to love free speech and defend a speaker without by necessity having to agree with what the speaker says or believes?’  The answer, save the ACLU’s lone disagreement, is a firm NO!  Today perceived, yet unspoken, thought is proscribed by the Left – ‘But we know what he is really thinking.’  Such selective granting of constitutional rights are among the existential core values of progressives, and not just outlier sentiments held by their fringe.

We are now growing accustomed to mass actions in the public forum that in their aggregate can be understood as a preamble to a true civil war.  The coming conflict may be one in which the victor either defines our new or renewed form of governance, or executes the Great Divide, thereby establishing two sovereign nation-states in the wake of such a conflict.

The leftwing lamestream media is working overtime to cast current events as confirmation that our federal government is run by radical ideologues who promote white nationalism.  The current press hullabaloo, joined by all Democrats and some Republicans, about President Trump’s politically incorrect denunciation of Charlottesville demonstrators is a prime example of this.  His ascription of responsibility to both sides in the riot – the so-called notion of ‘moral equivalence’ – is the lynch pin of their entire argument.

Yet no one in the national media has pointed out that President Obama was equally, if not more so, ambivalent when even more egregious events came to pass.  The hallmark of these was, perhaps, “when five Dallas cops were murdered last year, the 44th president faulted police as well as the killer.”  In ‘Trump Follows Obama’s Example of Moral Equivalence’, Jason Riley reluctantly reminds us of this one-sided treatment of the two presidents.  The Left’s high dudgeon media made nary a peep when on numerous occasions Obama saw two sides of clearly one-sided tragedies.

The Left has no trouble publicly promoting and protecting anti-white groups like Black Lives Matter, and lifting up prominent black racists like Al Sharpton.  All forms of nationalist groups are darlings of the lamestream, except, of course, American nationalists who are vigorously attacked at every opportunity.  This generation of our formerly noble Fourth Estate has a big problem denouncing all forms of race-based supremacy and nationalism.  Their rule for such discrimination is simple – if it has any provenance in European culture, it is proscribed.

So what is happening now?  Well, the temperature is rising as “Democrats and media figures work to mainstream violent Antifa protesters. … Journalists and major liberal news outlets have compared violent American flag-burning protesters to soldiers storming the beaches of Normandy — all while downplaying the leftists’ violence. … The protesters, known as antifa (short for anti-fascist), often advocate for communism and have been deemed a domestic terrorist movement” by at least one state. (more here)

Concurrently, the work to erase parts of our past continues apace.  Look for demonstrations calling for the sandblasting of Georgia’s Stone Mountain and the radical reduction of Mount Rushmore’s occupants.  Perhaps the insanity, which usually intensifies in such pre-revolutionary political frenzies, may yet reach to the internet and school texts, and call for the photoshopping (nee Stalinist 'air-brushing') of historical photos and deletion of politically incorrect videos.  This is recognized by the better read as gross historical revisionism and Orwellian newthink.  Today saner voices counsel that in order to inform future generations, we should add to history, and not just take from it.

[17aug17 update]  Among the many intellectual hurdles that face those of the Left, understanding the definition of ‘conspiracy’ seems to of particular difficulty for them.  RR has tried to help in the past to clear up their confusion; let us try again.

Conspiracy: an evil, unlawful, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons.  Random House Dictionary of the English Language (unabridged);

Conspiracy: a secret agreement among several people usually involving treason or great treachery.  Mirriam-Webster Dictionary (online);

Conspiracy: an evil, unlawful, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons. Plot. Dictionary.com;

Conspiracy: a secret plan to achieve some goal.  Rationalwiki.com

So what does one learn about ‘conspiracy’ if first bothering to consult any dictionary?  A conspiracy is something done by two or more people, always in secret, to achieve a goal or end that may be legal or illegal.  But to those who have never consulted a dictionary, the meaning of the word remains forever a mystery, which causes them to say butt stupid things like, "So let’s remind George when he spreads this conspiracy nonsense on KVMR to promote his blog that when you lay down with Richard Spencer, American Nazis, and the KKK you are who you are intimate with."

RR has never claimed or posited that the Left is conspiring to “fundamentally transform America”, or to abrogate the Westphalian world order, or to reduce America from its hegemonic status to second world peerage, or to promote global governance.  Not at all.  We have always pointed out how openly the Left has done this, and continues to advance such ends through any and all agents and agencies it controls or can influence.  They have written books and publish this message continually.  To them, worldwide collectivism is a fervent and cherished end.  They freely admit that the world’s cadre of independent sovereign-nation states stands in the way of this goal, and that this Westphalian world order must be brought down in order for mankind to advance and achieve its destiny.

Now admittedly, the Left no longer loudly proclaims the benefits that derive from the historical nostrums offered by Marx, Engels, Lenin, et al.  However, the mountain they are encouraging people everywhere to climb is the very same.  Today we are ascending on a slightly different and more politic path as required by the times, but as the attacks on capitalism, wealth distribution, merit-based advancement, etc emerge from academe and grow louder, we will soon be encouraged to follow the celebrated icons of socialism cum communism in their very footsteps.

For recent examples of this openness and non-conspiratorial ideological promotion, I call your attention to two interesting developments by our progressives.  First, let’s see what messages the alt-left proudly puts into the public domain today.  A summary with links to their own sites is available in ‘In Their Own Words: The Radical Political Goals Of ‘Anti-Fascists’’.  When reading this, recall the recent words of Senator Warren (D-MA) about what part of the political spectrum the core of the Democratic Party now inhabits (here).  To get the full snootful on the Left’s agenda, I refer you to their Progressive Manifesto (2003) by Anthony Giddens.  You are, of course, invited to compare their manifesto to the goals espoused in the UN’s Agenda 21 document extensively covered in these pages.

And then to follow the immortal words of V. Lenin – “Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted.” – we turn to the recent efforts of Democrat worthies such as Van Jones, former Obama advisor and self-ascribed communist (more here and here), who now is busy inserting a new “anti-bullying” program into our high schools’ curriculum called ‘Challenge Day’ and sits on its openly leftwing board.  Over 2,200 high schools have offered the program in which “no longer are young people taught to find the good in people and society, to be optimistic, to be self-reliant, to be hopeful, and to have good relationships with their families. … Programs like Challenge Day teach students to find divisions constantly: Everyone and everything is racist, poses a direct threat to their safety, or is the product of some form of social privilege. … Instead of teaching resilience, respect, and independence, students are taught to break down and cry, discuss their feelings, and check their social “privilege.” (more here)

In the end we come full circle and realize that leftwingers who cannot debate the tenets they promote will simply attack and denigrate their opposites as advancing conspiracy theories in the hopes that their audience will react with the usually unexamined dismissal, 'Oh yeah, one of those guys …'

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175 responses to “Add to history, and not take from it (updated 17aug17)”

  1. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “For years I have pointed out that these people were outright racists and separatists, who knowingly advanced a narrative that the only solution in America is ‘separatism’, ironically the very narrative advanced by Richard Spencer and Andrew Anglin of The Daily Stormer are advancing.”
    Goebbels would be proud of you, Steve. You have learned much.
    By the way, it appears Steve’s Board of Directors is as lilly white as any KKK chapter (100%) and the staff is far whiter (90+%) than any company I’ve ever worked, or any group I’ve ever belonged to. Does that make Stephen Frisch, 6 figure CEO of the rent seeking wretchedly misnamed Sierra Business Council, a racist? You decide.

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  2. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Gregory | 17 August 2017 at 10:07 AM
    Reno is just over the hill….I guess he couldn’t find a single African American who was even slightly interested?
    No fucking “Outreach Program” either?!
    Oh Steve….astonishingly poor management in the racially sensitive era!

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  3. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    This is cracking me up. Frisch lives in the whitest county in California and chose to do so and then claims some sort of “high road” position on race? You cannot make this stuff up.

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  4. Walt Avatar

    I found a “Frisch” from a war.
    http://www.historynet.com/franz-frisch-a-panzer-soldiers-world-war-ii-memories.htm
    This must be the one Steve was talking about.

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  5. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Todd
    Can you share with us your military record?

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  6. Walt Avatar

    How about yours Paul? The Berkeley birkenstock brigade don’t count.

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  7. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “Reno is just over the hill….I guess he couldn’t find a single African American who was even slightly interested?”-fish
    From Truckee, Reno is just down the hill. Stevie at one point had an employee of Asian ancestry or two, with surnames to match, but no more.
    Whiter than the US. Much whiter than California. I think it’s also whiter than Truckee.

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  8. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Frisch appears to prefer being surrounded by white folks rather than a mix of races. hy is that Steve Frisch?

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  9. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Walt
    Six years Air Force Reserves McClellan AFB

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  10. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Well, well, well. Didn’t read Mr. Frisch’s thoughts, just his quotes posted here. Now, my thoughts:
    Birds of a feather flock together. Black only dorms is an example. They want it that way. A poor black family man in the ghetto moves up the ladder and the first thing he does is grab his old lady and the babies and moves out to suburbs to get away. Why? Because he likes it better among his his new found economic class than in the drug and crime infested hood. Birds of a feather flock together.
    I have no worries about a legal immigrant buying housing here in Quainty Town, land Ozzie and Harriet. Nor do I worry about a liberal starting a business here. A business thrives or dies on its own merit and entrepreneurial spirit and ingenuity. .Find a want, fill the void. Or, create a need and fill the need. Whatevet, There are federal laws to protect against housing and employment discrimination. Nobody is doing to change that, thus a red herring. In fact, we don’t worry about “Culural Appropiation” here, gasp! If a white crazy lady wants to peddle burritos, no problem as long as the grub is good. If a black on and pop wants to serve sushi, no problem….as long as the grub is good and reasonably priced. Heck, if a Latinx peddles biscuits and gravey on a bed of grits, no problem. A Somali can own and operate a Hawaiian bar for all we care.
    In fact, I would argue we are more open minded here than in any college town or city in the USA. We don’t need to bend over backwards to follow Federal law in fair housing or employment. We just do it naturally, and practice hospitality and giving back as a way of life, not because of some law that requires counting heads, but because it’s the right thing to do. Yes, there are knuckleheads found in every group. Usually too few or statically insignificant to bother mentioning or wasting time gabbing about.
    History: How about looking at the record:
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1150305051770197/?type=3&theater
    https://www.facebook.com/100PercentFEDUp/photos/a.330374477016724.83603.311190048935167/1451052391615588/?type=3&theater
    Bottomline:
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1149405211860181/?type=3&theater

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  11. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “For years I have pointed out that these people were outright racists and separatists, who knowingly advanced a narrative that the only solution in America is ‘separatism’, ironically the very narrative advanced by Richard Spencer and Andrew Anglin of The Daily Stormer are advancing.” -Frisch at the Purple BS’er’s blog
    Funny, but the only overt separatist sentiment I’ve ever noticed at RR was from our own Paul Emery, news director of the local “community” radio station KVMR, who was urging George R (and, I gathered, anyone else who isn’t a progressive/green) to move away from Nevada City to somewhere he could pal around with his own kind.

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  12. Walt Avatar

    Oh. A weekend warrior. Mail clerk? chow hall? conscientious objector? Deferment ?
    So just what was your AFSC?

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  13. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Frisch is the true racist. He has consciously failed to hire other than white people. In my life, I have worked and hired all kinds of folks from many races and cultures. Frisch is a true white supremacist.

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  14. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    In other news, and because hassling Mr. Frisch over his character assassination can only get so far:
    http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/u-s-has-3-5-million-more-registered-voters-than-live-adults-a-red-flag-for-electoral-fraud/

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  15. Walt Avatar

    Scenes. Paul will have an excuse for that.

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  16. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    87th Aerial Port Sq

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  17. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Walt where were you in the military?

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  18. Walt Avatar

    Baggage handler.Got it. I took the time to be full time. But I guess doing “something” is better than nothing.

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  19. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    You fly boys crack me up. Now, Russ flew those nuclear warheads shoved up under his ass during the Cold War. You can’t hold a candle to that, But, then again, Nobody can hold a candle to Slim Pickens.
    https://youtu.be/wcW_Ygs6hm0
    Oh, thank you for your service. I do owe the flyboys on big debt of gratitude for answering a prayer I was sending up….answered in a most quick and awe inspiring response. Thanks. Well, some might wish you delayed your call a few moments longer so I would not be present at this current gabfest. The Lord works in mysterious ways, eh Walt? 🙂

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  20. Walt Avatar

    Yup. Even got sent to a banana republic dog fight.( Granada)
    Our job was RRR (rapid runway repair) The AF version of Navy CB’s

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  21. Walt Avatar

    Hat’s off to Russ!
    Then we have Dr.R knowing how to send artillery shells “special delivery”.
    Me? Plenty of time sweeping runways.

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  22. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Thanks for your service Walt.

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  23. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Tell us about your service Todd?

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  24. Bun Bun Avatar
    Bun Bun

    Bill SmellyToes and FishyTwat,
    Overdramatic Deniers don’t understand that nothing is being scrubbed. Monuments to mans stupidity still stand in the battlefield parks of the South. Good place for the other monuments there so people who are into the war of northern aggression can see them.

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  25. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Paul, do you remember telling gr that he’d be happier if he moved out of town to make NC blue…. be with his red state kind?
    What was your motivation, Paul?

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  26. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    I say it’s a local issue (statues) best left up to the elected officials in the jurisdictions where they are standing.

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  27. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    I’m not the one who has consistently delivered a message of fear, intolerance, race baiting, disdain for anyone who has a different culture, and ultimately separatism. Anyone who wants to cruise the record on the ‘great divide’ going back some 6-7 years here is free to. Use the search button. All other issues are of course an attempt at diversion from the core issue.
    I don’t seek to change anyone’s mind if they are a regular part of George’s ideological cohort. I’m posting for the lurkers out there.
    I’m merely pointing out that the main theme of Georges message is that there is a culture war, it is manifested as left v right, other v native ( even though he’s not a native), globalist v nationalist, Christian v Muslim, east v west, elite v common, and ultimately the grievance politics of that.
    Poor you, the world has changed and you are just not ready for it. Millennial are idiots, robots are taking over, science counters your beliefs, democracy is not fair, and your peeps are slipping into the lower classes. It must be a globalist conspiracy. All this grievance to absolve yourselves of the responsibility to do the real work of building a better community with opportunity and prosperity.
    You’re kind of like that old 3M commercial, you might not be dyed in the wool racists, but you make the racism more vitulent, more intense, more acceptable and more mainstream. So you may not share the same goal, ANP and KKK race war, but you share the nihilistic goal of burning the whole damn thing down, and the philosophy that the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
    The more the alt right embraces racism as a tool to burn the whole thing down, which is precisely what they want by their own admission, the stronger your responsibility to reject their racism, and if you don’t you countenance it. The more you want to burn it down the more clear it is that you are choosing grievance over proactive progress.
    I could post dozens of examples from these pages over the years of racism…but that would never change your minds…because when it comes
    right down to it, like Trump, you believe it.

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  28. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    S 1237 says this “I’m not the one who has consistently delivered a message of fear, intolerance, race baiting, disdain for anyone who has a different culture, and ultimately separatism. Anyone who wants to cruise the record on the ‘great divide’ going back some 6-7 years here is free too. Use the search button. All other issues are of course an attempt at diversion from the core issue. ”
    Honestly you actually believe that? You are delusional then and in need of help. That is your total mantra whenever you post anywhere. You have some sort of bi-polar disease if you think you are so “pure”. You are the laughing-stock wherever you post.
    And you are so afraid of other opinions you censor as does your buddie Pelline. Two peas in a pod. Amazing.

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  29. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    Funny Todd you censor your POS blog. You have also directly attempted to censor my speech…you know what I’m talking about.
    BTW the only thing that makes my posts here sharp is the need to counter the ignorance and prejudice of the messages being delivered. I’m actually quite a happy guy 😀

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  30. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    re: Steve Frisch@12:37PM
    “I’m merely pointing out that the main theme of Georges message is that there is a culture war, it is manifested as left v right, other v native ( even though he’s not a native), globalist v nationalist, Christian v Muslim, east v west, elite v common, and ultimately the grievance politics of that.”
    There you go. Make your case instead of simply accusing others of racism (whatever that is exactly) and you can find a kind of internal feng shui.
    What is the last election cycle if it’s not a culture war? Masked Leftist street fighters vs. a newly-made Rightest horde. Hundreds of thousands of people (and later, millions probably) crossing the Mediterranean leaving an overpopulated place and entering an undefended one, a newly minted Chinese hegemony starting up to take it’s place in the world, Muslim radicals blowing up the world one car at a time.
    It may depend on your definition of ‘culture’, and of ‘war’, but any reasonable person can certainly see that the knob is nudging towards 11.
    At least competently run, large-scale, industrial war appears to be on the back burner for now, regardless of this crazy need to drag the Russians into US domestic politics.
    If the problem is not mass movements, but simply Donald Trump on the throne, think of what Edward Luttwak said.
    “A coup consists of the infiltration of a small but critical segment of the state apparatus, which is then used to displace the government from its control of the remainder.”
    Deep state leverage combined with ownership of mass media may be enough. It’s worth a shot anyway.

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  31. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Steven Frisch | 17 August 2017 at 01:04 PM
    No Frisch, I don’t censor my blog. Periodically I moderate it when I get a mass attack of your pals swearing and denigrating. But you have posted on my blog so stop your lying. You attacked me last year in a personal and vicious nature and I let your POS Board members know what a scumbag you are. All I did was post your comments. So good, it appears you shut your lying pie hole for a while. Now you have retuned to spread your hate, your racism and hypocrisy. My blog has many viewers and I am happy to say I don’t really care about that. I do it because I like to write. You censor people because you are afraid. What a wimp ass.

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  32. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Frisch, you are one of the most hateful bigots I am aware of in Nevada County, working for a lilly white board and 90% lilly white staffers.
    For those lurkers out there, I encourage them note you can’t even be bothered to make the case for your charges:

    For years I have pointed out that these people were outright racists and separatists, who knowingly advanced a narrative that the only solution in America is ‘separatism’, ironically the very narrative advanced by Richard Spencer and Andrew Anglin of The Daily Stormer are advancing.

    I’ve never seen anyone here do any of what you have charged… racists and separatists, “knowlingly” advancing the narrative of Richard Spencer and Andrew Anglin… two names I’d still be blissfully ignorant of if ‘journalists’ didn’t seek them out for their endorsements of one GOP politician or another.
    Stephen Frisch, you are one seriously disturbed ‘toon.
    cheers
    Greg
    PS Just wondering… how many times have you seen the new Algore movie?

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  33. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Steven Frisch | 17 August 2017 at 12:37 PM
    Watch for it…..watch! ….and there it is! The acknowledgement that we really aren’t racists!
    ……you might not be dyed in the wool racists, but you make the racism more vitulent, more intense, more acceptable and more mainstream
    It must have been painful to offer that up publicly!
    PS: 13 dead in Spain today…..but by all means lets keep importing hordes of the unassimilable. I’m sure they won’t make it to Truckee anytime soon!

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  34. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    So Todd, you attack people all day long. One can read it on your blog, here, in The Union, at Boardmans….You get critiqued and you try to intervene through my employer. Nothing I say or do here has anything to do with my employer. I post as an individual. You are a coward Mr. Juvinall.

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  35. fish Avatar
    fish

    No Frisch, I don’t censor my blog. Periodically I moderate it when I get a mass attack of your pals swearing and denigrating. But you have posted on my blog so stop your lying.
    Funny there’s that word again! I seem to recall a hearty Frischian endorsement of “moderation” when it was Pelline doing the moderating!

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  36. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Steven Frisch | 17 August 2017 at 01:58 PM
    This entire thread. Dark continent my ass plausible deniability for coded racism pure and simple.

    THATS IT?!?!? THAT’S THE BEST YOU COULD COME UP WITH?!?!?
    That’s all you could find using your patented Steve Frisch Superhero Racist Detection Ring™??? A thread from six years ago focusing on guy who hasn’t posted here in nearly that long!?!?
    Jesus….try and work up a “Two Minutes Hate” over something substantive for once!
    I’d like to address a more troubling statement that you made….something to the effect the “the real debate is happening over at Pellines!”.
    That’s just crazy talk!

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    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    Gregory@1:44PM
    “Richard Spencer and Andrew Anglin… two names I’d still be blissfully ignorant of if ‘journalists’ didn’t seek them out for their endorsements of one GOP politician or another.”
    I’ve heard of Spencer, but know you are getting me to look up this Anglin cat.
    lol. So he’s a liberal, Noam Chomsky follower who turned into a dreadlocked vegan who moved to the Philippines who became a Buddhist who started a Reptilian web site who became a sort of Hitlerian who started the most famous Nazi website. In the pics, he looks to be a ginger. That’s your problem right there.
    Well, you can’t say he’s had a boring life.
    So far as I can tell, all it takes to be a racist is to want an immigration rate roughly what it was in the 1960’s.
    Heck, that isn’t even necessary. It’s enough for The Minister of Culture to just know how you really feel. Room 101 is waiting for those without crimestop.

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    fish

    Posted by: ScenesFromTheApocalypse | 17 August 2017 at 02:28 PM
    Well of course….he was clearly making the Nazi salute!

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    fish

    ….coded racism pure and simple.
    A photo of the woman that Steve felt should have been elected president…..plus a bonus!
    http://68.media.tumblr.com/5b000eace2eab1ab6a415ab53f97d387/tumblr_o3f28yEkE61qap9gno1_1280.jpg
    Coded racism indeed!

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  40. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    My goodness Frisch has once again shown the readers his obvious mental illness. And he thinks he can post things as a “individual” and not as the CEO of SBC? After telling us all about SBC? Jeeze he is nuttier than a fruitcake.
    He truly is a racist hypocrite. Never hires anyone but whites. And then calls us white supremicists. You just can’t make that stuff up.
    As far as being a coward? No, I may not be as brave as Walt but I can still kick Steve Frisch’s fat behind. LOL! Hell, he’d have a heart attack if he tried to move to fast.

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    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    newish news
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/17/wasserman-schultz-ex-it-aide-indicted-on-4-counts.html
    https://patch.com/texas/midtownhouston/houston-black-lives-matter-plans-destroy-confederacy-event-saturday
    This last is a cunning plan. Tear down some sort of Confederacy statue that is guaranteed to get somebody mad, start a fight, blame the people you started a fight with, wash, rinse, repeat.
    These folks are on a roll. Whether you can win the mid-terms on this as your exclusive public policy concept remains to be seen.

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  42. George Rebane Avatar

    “coded racism” – Aha, there it is again – ‘we know what you really think, and with that knowledge we will convict you!’

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    Steven Frisch

    When someone uses the term “dark continent” to describe south central we know exactly what you mean George. One would have to be either an idiot, or intentionally using coded language to conjure up visions of Africa in the 19th century and comparing it to 21st century LA. Since I know you think you’re pretty smart I’m sure you prefer not to be thought an idiot. But then that is the effectiveness of the alt-right, they elicite the vision and emotion of racism all while maintaining deniability and claiming those who see their message through a lens of race are the real racists. Kudos Herr Goebbels. Fortunately few are fooled by this propaganda ploy.

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  44. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Oh please, you are simply a hater of blacks Frisch and are looking to project that on others.

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  45. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Geeze Steve. I remember Dixon saying gigaboo that night. He never posted on these pages again. Problem solved. He got 86’ed. And I was glad he did not say raghead or else all hell would have broke out. Hey, I have said Rice Eaters, Pollocks. Savages and Injuns….but I can do it, smooth white baby faces like you can’t. Remember that time I said you look like John Denver without the wrinkles? You look like you need #40 sunscreen. You need to get out more often, Pretty Boy Floyd… or is that Baby Face Nelson? Don’t matter. It don’t matter if you are lib or conservative, when they come after you whitebreads, you will be glad the Deplorables are here.
    “If and when the Vatican is attacked by ISIS, which as everyone knows is ISIS’s ultimate trophy, I can promise you that the pope would have only wished and prayed that Donald Trump would have been president because this would not have happened,” Trump read from a statement at a Thursday rally in South Carolina.
    “ISIS would have been eradicated, unlike what is happening now with our all talk, no action politicians.”
    Trump’s response came minutes after reports that Pope Francis criticized Trump in a conversation with reporters on his plane.
    http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/269865-trump-slams-francis-over-wall
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1150023261798376/?type=3&theater
    Bummer man. Now they are searching for her cohorts. STEVEN, , if you understand Trump ran as a law and order man, then you can see why he condemns both sides, the really really bad side as well as the mere really bad side. Dispensing Justice and all that.
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1150079241792778/?type=3&theater
    Bummer man., again! She got one in the woodpile. Add that to your family history.
    http://yournewswire.com/chelsea-handler-grandfather-nazi/

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    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    “When someone uses the term “dark continent” to describe south central we know exactly what you mean George. ”
    Well jeez, and he isn’t even accurate.
    It’s mostly Hispanic, so I guess it’s more of a “olive-skinned” continent.
    Here’s a cheat sheet for your hobby. Feel free to use the smiley faces.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitzpatrick_scale#/media/File:Influence_of_pigmentation_on_skin_cancer_risk.png

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    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    BillT. After all the General Sheridans and Crook statues out there get knocked down, the next target of the righteous crowd is obvious.
    http://media.al.com/entertainment_impact/photo/TSDDUOF_EC034_H.JPG

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