[I had no idea that the discussion of Trump’s presidency and its survival could be elevated to the enviable level of an unending ‘Yes he is …’, ‘No he isn’t …’, ‘Yes he is …’, ‘No he isn’t …’, ‘Yes he is …’, ‘No he isn’t …’, ‘Yes he is …’, ‘No he isn’t …’, ‘Yes he is …’, ‘No he isn’t …’, ‘Yes he is …’, ‘No he isn’t …’, ‘Yes he is …’, ‘No he isn’t …’, ‘Yes he is …’, ‘No he isn’t …’, ‘Yes he is …’, ‘No he isn’t …’, without any perceptible loss of interest by the discussants. Nevertheless, on the off chance that someone wants to introduce a new topic thread, here’s some fresh sand. However, any such forays into new issues are not required, especially for those convinced that other readers are hanging on every clever word in their repartees 😉 gjr]
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268 responses to “Sandbox – 2aug17”
Administrivia – Please note that the Hilary Hodge campaign is a topic under the recent ‘Scattershots’; please gather your recent comments there.
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The jumping Rastafarian frogs of Calaveras County
One of the targeted farms, where more than 6,000 plants were seized, is affiliated with the same Rastafarian Church linked to a Yuba County pot farm that on Tuesday was the scene of a police shootout. A farmworker there shot two deputies after running into a nearby home and later was found dead inside.
The Calaveras County sheriff’s office made five arrests without incident at the farm in Heiser Canyon on Wednesday, DiBasilio said. The Calaveras farm was targeted before Tuesday’s shooting.
Heidi Lepp, the leader of Sugarleaf Rastafarian Church, said the Heiser Canyon farm is part of her network of churches, which use marijuana as their sacrament. She claims the farms that grow pot for the church have a religious exemption allowing such cultivation, but state law does not provide such exceptions.
DiBasilio said the Heiser Canyon farm was an illegal grow. Medical marijuana has been legal in California for two decades and he said last year the farm tried to get a license to allow it to grow pot but was turned down.
DiBasilio said Lepp called the sheriff’s office on Wednesday and said the farm was affiliated with her church and could not be raided. The workers arrested at the farm said they did not know who they were working for, he said.
Lepp’s husband, Charles Lepp, said they have no ownership of the property.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/california/articles/2017-08-03/california-authorities-seize-27-000-pot-plants-in-4-day-raid
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This will surely warm the heart of the Putin cuddlers that reside on this blog.
” “I have had it,” Trump said. “I have been making these calls all day, and this is the most unpleasant call all day.”
“Putin was a pleasant call,” Trump said later in the conversation. “This is ridiculous.”
Quotes from the conversation Trump had with Australian PM Malcolm Turnbull.
Just thought I’d share.
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Thanks, great call. Since Putin has a huge number of ICBM’s and nukes it seems to me we need a good relationship with him and his country. What do you say, Paul Emery?
Sadly thought the call was hacked by a “deep state scumbag” to try and undermine Trump. But it has backfired and made Trump a hero.
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For our engineering bent folks…or folks with time on their hands.Report is a good read. Good thing Gov. Brown put a guy with a BS in Political Science (Cal) in charge. Note to self: Guynland above Oreville Dam, not below it.
http://alumni.berkeley.edu/california-magazine/just-in/2017-07-27/bob-bea-takes-us-deep-dive-through-his-dire-oroville-report
Report:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz1I1mIutSEnbFJuVUJZWWNNVlU/view
One can only wonder what would happen if the dam failed during construction of the proposed water tunnels.
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As witnessed in these pages, some prominent liberal commenters still contest Trump’s use of third-party purloined and published Democrat emails outing their operating perfidy in last year’s election. However, today their outrage seems to be well controlled when enthusiastically citing the clearly feloniously acquired and released transcripts of calls between our president and world leaders. The rest of us have come to know this as the ‘self-consistent’ and satisfying world in which progressives enjoy their succor and comfort.
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I learned from you guys George that’s there’s no ethical problem using stolen material to reveal deception and lying from our elected officials.
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re: The Paul@10:02AM
Admittedly, one difference is that the DNC leaks are by some unknown hackers or by the GRU (which I strongly suspect you had never even heard of before the current cold civil war). The Trump leaks are from active duty intelligence officers and some currently employed moles from the Obama administration.
No difference here, nothing to be seen. lol.
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Scenes
Do you condone the release of the Pentagon Papers by Daniel Ellsberg or the revelations by Deep Throat in the Watergate affair ?
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Paul Emery, you have it backasswards as usual. The country is used to you fake media types releasing our secrets and private conversations illegally. We learned from you.
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Paul. Nixon had nothing on “O”. “O”and Co. made Watergate look like a grade school prank.
Yet no bitch from you all those years.
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Hummm.. “MAD” Max is at it again.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/04/maxine-waters-after-impeaching-trump-go-after-pence-video/
Now this is news to me.
” and when we finish with Trump we have to go after Putin,” Waters said,”
You LIBS sure know how to pick’m.
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PaulE 1002am – The relevance of your response goes begging since the two ‘leaks’ could not be more different in every dimension. For openers, the illegal release of the Trump transcripts served to reveal NO “deception and lying from our elected officials”, nor anything else that would be profitably used by the electorate of a sovereign nation-state conducting its foreign affairs in prudent confidence. However, the release by a criminal mole has now alerted foreign heads of state that they can no longer have confidential discussions with a US President. It appears that recognizing this damage to national security and facile international relations is a nuance lost on the people you so ably represent in these pages.
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The transcripts did reveal that Trump was lying to the American people about the importance of building a wall. Here’s from the transcripts
“President Trump told Mexico’s president that a proposed border wall between the two countries was “the least important thing we are talking about,” according to a transcript of the January call published by the Washington Post on Thursday.
“We’re building the wall,” Trump said in February. “In fact it’s going to start very soon.”
During the call with Peña Nieto, held just a week after Trump took office, the new president told the Mexican leader to stop saying Mexico would never pay for the wall.
The wall had been a signature issue for the Trump campaign which insisted that Mexico would pay for it.
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First, 12 Quatloos say “bun bun” is that reality challenged ancient angry white guy retired teacher, Doug Keachie. There’s something to the random rhythms of his sentence construction.
George, Paul thinks the leaked DNC emails shouldn’t be repeated ’cause it’s wrong to steal. It’s part of the Russian collusion story he can’t let go of. And yes, the only reason for leaking transcripts of Trump’s confidential calls to other leaders is to embarrass Trump and make it more difficult for him to speak with anybody off the record.
Sad!
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PaulE 1053am – “the least important thing we are talking about” is all you can do??! That is the most lame stretch I’ve seen from you to buttress one of your assertions. Anyone with an ounce of logic sees that this statement could be entirely true in the context of the importance of other topics discussed, and that without diminishing anything from our intent to reduce border porosity (which project has already started). Amazing!
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Posted by: Gregory | 04 August 2017 at 10:53 AM
I thought “Bun Bun” might be a poorly written chatbot…..tozers thinks he just “started early” this morning!
I love seeing the pathologies seep through the posts….”Piper Lauries Former Shink” and his obsession with impotence. A case study!
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George
Trump asked the Mexico President to lie to the press to save his butt. That an indisputable fact. Trump promised to the American people that Mexico would pay for the wall. Mexico said no-never.
“President Trump made building a wall along the southern U.S. border and forcing Mexico to pay for it core pledges of his campaign.
But in his first White House call with Mexico’s president, Trump described his vow to charge Mexico as a growing political problem, pressuring the Mexican leader to stop saying publicly that his government would never pay.
“You cannot say that to the press,” Trump said repeatedly, according to a transcript of the Jan. 27 call obtained by The Washington Post. Trump made clear that he realized the funding would have to come from other sources but threatened to cut off contact if Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto continued to make defiant statements.
The funding “will work out in the formula somehow,” Trump said, adding later that “it will come out in the wash, and that is okay.” But “if you are going to say that Mexico is not going to pay for the wall, then I do not want to meet with you guys anymore because I cannot live with that.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/you-cannot-say-that-to-the-press-trump-urged-mexican-president-to-end-his-public-defiance-on-border-wall-transcript-reveals/2017/08/03/0c2c0a4e-7610-11e7-8f39-eeb7d3a2d304_story.html?utm_term=.dcc70435ddcf
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Frisch 639pm
Yes, the innumerate are likely to drop a couple of zeros when they are in a rush. I was in a rush when I read it and it still looked wrong right off the bat. As did “I meant it to be 3.10 of 1%” when you apparently meant 3/10ths of 1%.
Not .003%… but I get it… that just means “tiny” to you.
Funny, but 0.03% is the tiny percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere in the late 19th century, which has skyrocketed an additional 0.01% in the century since then.
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OL’ Dougy.. Yup,, that guy has some screws loose. Just one of those who think rules and regs just don’t apply to them.
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Paul complaining again about supposed Trump lies? Paul never had a problem with “O”‘s.
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Didn’t vote for O 2nd time Walt. I assume you’ll vote for Trump in ’20.
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re: GeorgeRebane@10:59AM
The truth is that Trump could stand on his two hind legs and read the telephone book out loud and these guys would be outraged. There’s scarcely any point in the argument.
It isn’t like anyone here has had their everyday life change much, aside from the current stock market bubble perhaps.
The cold civil war is basically a religious conflict, and Trump is quite adept at poking the Green Libertarian catechism. Policy issues like healthcare will muddle along, it was a mess before and will likely be a mess afterwards.
But, when you believe that Christianity is bad and inferior to other religions, Western Civilization is evil, and that people worldwide should move into the First World to atone for our sins…and Team Trump appears to believe the opposite…there’s really no place for compromise. Just look how upset some commenters are at the mere concept that the numbers of immigrants is either reduced or subjected to QA. The emotional reaction shows a strong belief system that should be taken seriously.
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The cold civil war is basically a religious conflict, and Trump is quite adept at poking the Green Libertarian catechism. Policy issues like healthcare will muddle along, it was a mess before and will likely be a mess afterwards.
And like all religious conflicts it will eventually turn violent! Without fail!
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You voted for him once. That was enough. That’s like saying your girlfriend is “just a LITTLE pregnant.” You still just as responsible.
Trump is doing GREAT. Despite the dirty underhanded subversive crap the deep state is trying.
But LIBS are came up with a new bumper sticker,, “Vote for US,, and the new and better raw deal”
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Posted by: Gregory | 04 August 2017 at 11:12 AM
Funny that you are such a complete ass Greg Goodknight the you can’t just say, “Hey, Steve admitted a mistake, took responsibility, and clarified the point.”
The fact that almost no one here can do that, or for that matter EVER admit when they are wrong, just demonstrates the low level of character and confidence most possess.
But no one posses a lower character or temperament that you Greg, you are the saddest excuse for a man I have ever seen. Todd has an excuse, he has an IQ of about 90, you have no excuse.
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Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 03 August 2017 at 06:52 PM
Seriously Todd, Prop 187 affected state benefits, the RAISE Act affects federal benefits. They are two entirely different things.
But then again I expect a guy with an IQ of 90 to compare a pear to a tennis ball.
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OH my, Steve Frisch is outraged no one believes what he says. What a hoot. He has come here and lied constantly for years and called everyone here names and expects anyone here to care a hoot about his words? Jeeze, Frisch has a IQ of about 70 and should be in a mental instituion for morons, but instead gets to run a “non-profit” where he somehow gets a check for 10 grand a m onth. Our local Bernie Madoff!
Gregor is way smarter than you Frisch. He did not steal 250k of his employee’s payroll taxes and then get liened by every government level as you did. So please spare us all your phony outrage and get back to the shyster lifestyle you created.
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Todd you are not even smart enough to come up with an original insult 🙂
I think its sad that as a former elected official you can’t even tell the difference between a federal law and/or benefit and a state one. It really just demonstrates how completely incompetent you were as a County Supervisor.
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Gee you guys already got frischy all frothy and its only lunch. You know you got him on the run when he has to fall back on measurements. What’s your Mensa score steve? 😉
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“But no one posses (sic) a lower character or temperament that (sic) you Greg, you are the saddest excuse for a man I have ever seen”
-Frisch
Sticks and stones, luv. Did that tantrum make the icky feelings go away?
The word you were looking for was “possesses”.
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re: DonBessee@12:32PM
There’s no telling with these old angry white men. Hopefully his potency isn’t impaired.
In other news, Wasserman-Shultz intones:
https://twitter.com/NRO/status/893461468183703553
jeez, I’m tired of these hyphenated names. Pick one or the other why doncha? My fingers get tired typing.
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So somebody called “Scenes From The Apocalypse” is complaining about long names? But at least it’s not hyphenated.
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PaulE 1111am – and what is wrong for Trump to ask Nieto to cooperate in coming to a rapprochement on how the ‘wall’ will be funded? People with a 3-digit IQ knew last year that payment for the wall would be a complex affair with a lot of politically motivated definitions in play of what amounts/credits from whom to whom would be transfered under what conditions – after all, everybody would have to save face. Only the densest of the dense interpreted Trump to expect a check from Mexico for the full amount when the wall was completed. But then again, that is how the progressive elites judge their constituents to be, and that is the message they have been pounding into the heads of their snuffies ever since.
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Posted by: Steve Frisch | 04 August 2017 at 12:11 PM
The fact that almost no one here can do that, or for that matter EVER admit when they are wrong, just demonstrates the low level of character and confidence most possess.
You’re projecting Steve……
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Maxine Waters is a Tyler Perry character come to life…… I guess Putin should be impeached for attacking Korea and all!
Again though…..she is the perfect “representative” for her district.
http://ntknetwork.com/maxine-waters-says-putin-er-pence-needs-to-be-impeached-after-trump/
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Boys, gentlemen and scumbags. Poleeez.. Why can’t we all just get along? Just kidding. Yep, the weekend has started early and it’s butthurt time! A favorite time. Anytime is the right time for butthurt time. Since you all are feeling rather frisky……let’s get ready to Rumble in the Jungle.
Breaking News! It’s Showtime…
http://www.msfanpage.link/special-counsel-investigate-comeyhillarylynch-obamawatch-gowdy-pass-vote/
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Walt
I assume you voted for Bush twice. Does that mean you are assuming responsibility for the war in Iraq that your guy promoted and lied to the American people about? Also the negligence that led to 9/11 and the economic crash. All those happened under the watch of your guy Bush. At least I only made one mistake.
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BDS relapse Paul? Bush was still better than anyone the LIBS had, OR have. Including Clinton. Bush signed every Bill the LIBS put on his desk. You have no bitch.
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Punchy still driving that hacking theory? It’s impossible to know who done it. Just ask the FBI.
https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/897616670388556/?type=3&theater
Dem news: Well, at least they are looking for work.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/04/half-candidates-in-detroit-mayoral-election-are-felons-analysis-shows.html
Remember when the local tourist board came up with “Come to Nevada County on vacation, leave on probation”? Well, that was just fakenews.
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So you are assuming responsibility and support for Bush’s War in Iraq Walt?
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So you are assuming responsibility and support for Bush’s War in Iraq Walt?
So you are assuming responsibility and support for
Bush’s WarObamas continuation of the Iraq War Paul?You really don’t think these arguments through do you?
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Punchy @1:48 pm
Walt
“I assume you….”
Punch @ 1:59 pm
“So you are assuming….”
Whole lot of assuming going on. Punchy, That is always the place where you go off the rails. At least you quit saying, “I thought……”. That got you in trouble everytime. You are in fine form today. No reply to Dr. Rebane’s 12:49? I assume he was addressing you.
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He did largely pull of out out of Iraq according to the Bush timetable Fish. I believe Bush set the withdrawal date to be 2011. This is pretty good documentation for that statement.
“Iraq and U.S. agree that all U.S. forces will withdraw “no later than December 31, 2011.” On November 17, 2008, US and Iraqi officials signed a Security Agreement, often referred to as a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA), stating that “All the United States Forces shall withdraw from all Iraqi territory no later than December 31, 2011.” The agreement also called for all U.S. combat forces to withdraw from Iraqi cities “no later than June 30, 2009.” [U.S.-Iraq Status of Forces Agreement, 11/17/08]”
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Posted by: Paul Emery | 04 August 2017 at 02:31 PM
Punchy….we still conduct combat operations in Iraq!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War#Aftermath_.E2.80.93_post_U.S._withdrawal
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And I thought Arkansas was a solid Republican state:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/arkansas-man-accused-sexually-assaulting-202856591.html
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Posted by: George Boardman | 04 August 2017 at 02:50 PM
Threadwinner……
MikeMike2 days ago
His buddies probably told him to lighten up and go get himself a piece of #$%$ And there you have it.
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For the interested reader, Obama did not have to implement anything that Bush2 had planned for after he was out of office. Obama implemented his own policies, and is therefore responsible for them to the same extent as any president before him.
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Quite obviously your fault Paul….no point denying it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/30/opinion/sunday/if-donald-trump-targets-journalists-thank-obama.html
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Yes we do Fish. that’s one of the reasons I didn’t support Obsama and won’t support Trump. the damage has been done. we lost. bring our boys home.
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