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268 responses to “Sandbox – 2aug17”
Ahhhh fresh kitty litter! So who is against the new green card rules introduced by Trump? No welfare, have a skill, speak the language and support yourself and family. That all sounds awfully basic and lets taxpayers off the hook v the current system that has 50% of them on govt assistance. 😉
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…..without any perceptible loss of interest by the discussants.
Lost interest weeks ago……Paul seems to have a memory deficit that causes him to cite the same poll numbers (or at least those within a tolerance range) on a nearly daily basis thinking that this will eventually alter reality to the state that he prefers.
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1) Don : who is opposed? Di-Fi said Trump’s immigration bill will NEVER pass the Senate.
2) Scenes, and perhaps Dr. Rebane. Not sure what to make of this. What the guy wrote that cost him his job seems like common knowledge to me. The fascist Left teaming up with the Islamofacists is plan as day….to me.
“Through the campaign, candidate Trump tapped into a deep vein of concern among many citizens that America is at risk and slipping away. Globalists and Islamists recognize that for their visions to succeed, America, both as an ideal and as a national and political identity, must be destroyed. … Islamists ally with cultural Marxists because, as far back as the 1980s, they properly assessed that the left has a strong chance of reducing Western civilization to its benefit.”.
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/08/02/report-h-r-mcmaster-fired-national-security-council-official-penning-memo-globalists/
Both items 1& 2 go under the heading “Language, Borders, Culture”.
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Just tracking daily Poll news for your reading pleasure Fish.
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Posted by: Paul Emery | 03 August 2017 at 02:59 PM
I swear……grandpa just can’t stop taking his dick out at the post office!
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You’re right Gregory, Trump didn’t have the votes. Guess what happens when that occurs? You lose. Trumpcare and Donald Trump. FLOP FLOP FLOP.
there is pretty much a flop a day from our Liar in Chief. Sometimes more. Don’t worry I’ll keep you informed whenever I feel like it.
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re: PaulE@3:12
http://www.sinkers.org/posters/peakliberal/peakliberal.jpg
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Posted by: Don Bessee | 03 August 2017 at 02:31 PM
I am of course totally against them and several people here should be as well since they have consistently delivered the message, “we are not against legal immigration just illegal immigrations.”
Totally completely unnecessary action that will harm US businesses and economic productivity.
The idea that cutting legal immigration from 1 million per year (or .003 %) to 500,000 per year (or .0015%) will have any positive impact on employment is ludicrous.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40814625
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re: BillT@2:51PM
Dunno. The political maneuvering in those organizations is rather opaque to anyone not directly involved. It’s easy to invent scenarios (third or fourth level employee goes directly to the Big Boss after being warned not to, is fired by direct superior).
I’m not finding the memo anywhere so everything I’m reading is thirteenth hand. That’s pretty common in the Era of the Newswarrior. Hopefully it was Top Secret so the NYT can be sure and publish a copy.
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The idea that cutting legal immigration from 1 million per year (or .003 %) to 500,000 per year (or .0015%) will have any positive impact on employment is ludicrous.
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“The idea that cutting legal immigration from 1 million per year (or .003 %) to 500,000 per year (or .0015%) will have any positive impact on employment is ludicrous.”
So what is the point of it if it has no effect?
BTW, 1 million is .003% of a really really big number.
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Is anyone surprised the eco warrior ducks the main issue @ 323? Expecting green card applicants to meet standards on a merit based system that puts the needs of the US is just sooo mean right?
It is economic suicide to give 50% of green card holders government assistance. We don’t have a need for goat herders right now but we do need MD’s. Its about the benefit to the country not about lifelong gifts to foreigners. Go read Teddy Kennedys arguments in 65′ when they set up the chain immigrations fiasco then lets talk.
I would love to get you in a room full of black moms in say del passo heights, so you can tell them they are wrong that the flood of unskilled labor is taking their kids jobs. What a maroon.
It is all about what is best for US citizens and that’s the kind of thing that lost you the election so keep it up. You should ask the po’ ol’ pollhead to brief you on how the speaking english issue polls. Real workers of both parties clearly understand this. 😉
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Speak English and have some salable skills. What a concept. Funny, Grandma and Grandpa on Mamma’s side had too, and did. Happily. From the day the set food on U.S. soil, they never spoke Swedish again. Not even private. Grand Dad was in demand for the time. He developed and designed steam and air drills.
Paul. can you say the same for your forebears? (Some of us already know that answer)
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Scenes 334
1 million is closer to 0.3% of 330 million, not .003%
But what’s being a factor of 100 off really mean, anyway. Just a couple of zeros.
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Trump’s rally is already a great watch. Three or four people wearing “Hillary for prison” shirts. And a full house no less. West Virginia sure likes Trump for bringing back jobs.
Now if it was Hillary standing there, right now,,,, just think…
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I really enjoy it when JoKe drags himself out from under his bed to shake his chubby little fist at the world…
More brain droppings from your resident Communications Adjunct!
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Posted by: Gregory | 03 August 2017 at 04:13 PM
But what’s being a factor of 100 off really mean, anyway. Just a couple of zeros.
He’s using the same percentages that Frisch used erroneously…..pretty sure that was the point of his post.
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I see a recall of a Gov. in West Virginia real soon. How dare that Gov. switch parties!!
OH the Progressives will be pissed.
That’s one state the LIBS will never get back.
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An overview of “single payer”. Enjoy.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/03/meanwhile-canadas-free-health-care-system-is-also-exploding/
““average Canadian family with two parents and two children with a household income of $127,814 will pay $12,057 for public health-care insurance this year.””
“Services are being rationed. In our last report on wait times in Canda, we discovered that the average wait time from referral to treatment was 20 weeks.”
“For all those tax dollars, there is still a long waiting list for a host of operations, both routine and urgent. Another Fraser Institute study recently revealed that 63,000 Canadians left the country in 2016 to seek medical assistance elsewhere — usually the U.S.”
I’m sure “our” Progressives can do it a lot better.(which translates to pure devastation)
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re: Walt@4:48PM
There’s always those odd questions that float around.
Does having a single buyer drive down prices better than competition? why?
Should an individual receiving the worst health care receive equivalent quality care as someone who receives the best? why?
Plus…is US healthcare (not insurance, but the care part) part of a competitive market? why or why not?
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re: Fish@4:32
That’s what Gregory was pointing out. Obviously the issue with zeroes resides at the SBC.
re: Fish@4:28
Dunno why Mr. Koyote even cares. Of course it’s a few people in a conversation plus some trash talk (plus maybe 4x or so lurkers). So what?
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re Walt 448pm – when the performance stats on other countries’ nationalized healthcare systems are posted, you can hear the progressive crickets up their decibel levels. Such numbers are tightly kept secrets by the lamestream outlets as they nudge the country toward socialism and beyond.
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Here let me rephrase that because I was in a hurry between meeting.
The difference is between 1,000,000 or 3/10th 1% and 500,000 or half of that.
The reality is that people here for years have said for years “we are not against legal immigration” and now that Twittler is in power and they see an opportunity they are changing thier lizard skin.
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Consumer Reports said that the Chevy Bolt had better driving distance than the top end Tesla S. What does that say about the prospects for the Tesla 3? 😉
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Posted by: fish | 03 August 2017 at 04:32 PM
Ha, at least I am admitting I made a mistake…now address the actual issue…it is insignificant bullshit to appease the anti-immigrant masses while working people continue to lose jobs because of structural changes to our economy and Trump ain’t doing squat to address it because he’s so busy lying about the Boy Scouts, Russia, and his penis size that he couldn’t pass a bill to name a post office through Congress….which makes me kind of happy.
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Yet that being given @ 552 you still want unfettered illegal immigration to compete with citizens for your diminishing pool of jobs. Looks like you let a little too much truth out in that one eco warrior. 😉
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I saw a lot of chatter in the news feeds about the trailer for Bruce Willis’s redo of Death Wish so I found the trailer. OH YA, I totally get why the snowflakes are melting on twitter etc.
It looks to follow the exact set up as the original but this time its in the worlds largest shooting gallery Chicago! I hope snowflakes don’t go the live showings, the cheering and laughing will send them fleeing before they turn into a puddle. 😉
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“The reality is that people here for years have said for years “we are not against legal immigration” and now that Twittler is in power and they see an opportunity they are changing their lizard skin.”
I don’t see the problem. It seems to me that restricting immigration to people with skills, atomic family members, and the odd bonafide refugee, is perfectly fine. It’s what most (all?) other first world countries do. Try just up and moving to Australia sometime.
http://www.pmln.us/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/042215-chart.jpg
http://www.migrationpolicy.org/sites/default/files/resize/source_images/PB-1965Act-F1-transparent_2-700×466.PNG
etc.
I can read a trend as well as anyone.
So what’s the right amount of immigrants? I’m unclear on what the objection is.
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I say let’s put a stop to all immigration for ten years. We need to assimilate those here already and readjust our priorities for labor. Trump did not gofar enough with this new law and so let’s try this. I especially think we need to put a hold on Russians and others from that neck of thw oods. They are too sly and not trustworthy. So Putin, keep your people home for a while. Thanks.
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“it is insignificant bullshit to appease the anti-immigrant masses ”
Just looking at a Gallup poll from a year ago, and before all the Trumphate, shows 38% for decreased immigration, 38% for keeping it the same, 21% for more. That looks to trend for less to me, although you can argue that democracy is for chumps.
You can certainly make the case that we need moar and moar folks to improve the environment, the price of property, and to grow the economy to infinity, but I can’t say that it’s a strong one. As a side note, a bit more in the way of integration and a bit less in the way of enclaves might not be a bad thing, but no doubt there is something evil in that thought also.
Oh well, we’ll see what happens. Maybe the ACLU will find something unconstitutional about immigration requirements, or at least the changing of same.
What I find most funny about these arguments is that the real angry old white guys become obvious. Both Mr Frisch and Mr Paul would be better off taking a bit of a breather, it can’t be doing your blood pressure much good.
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Posted by: Gregory | 03 August 2017 at 04:13 PM
Yes Gregory it is. As I said I MADE A MISTAKE DUE TO MY RUSH. I meant it to be 3.10 of 1%.
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Hate to break it to you guys but there is already a language test for citizenship, immigrants (except in some special circumstances) can’t collect “welfare” and there is a requirement that they be able to support themselves.
Trump is the master of giving you something you already have and making it look shiny and new.
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We notice that including our national interest to legally import skillful people as part of our immigration reform is now suddenly deemed to have become equivalent to being against legal immigration. Only progressives are comfortable with that kind of logic.
No one ever said that legal immigration has to implement a ‘Y’all come’ policy. No other nation is that stupid.
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re: Steve Frisch@6:42PM
Cool. So you should be fine with any tuneups to the requirements. EOT.
re: DonBessee@6:06PM
I had never heard of the movie and spent a bit of enjoyable time looking at magazine reviews of the thing. lol, wow are they up in arms. Here’s a good extra credit assignment. Look at the reviews for ‘Machete’ in those same magazines. As Time Magazine sez: “Machete is expert, cartoon-violent, lighthearted fun. “
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Oh StevieF,, California tried Prop 187 to cut off all the freebies to illegals and we voted it in. And then a Judge tossed it as UNconstitutional. He said we had to pay for all those things. Food, medical, housing, schooling etc. So it may be on the books as you say, but the reality it is not enforced. We have to follow the law as you say. So let’s do it!
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The church of global warming has just committed institutional suicide. The latest global warming study out of UCLA says our cats and dogs are causing global warming.
You can have my kitten when you pry it from my cold dead hand! 😉
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Bad news for Bill,, Don,,. He will have to stew up his pet bun bun.
On the bright side, he might get one mitten out of the mangy pelt.
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in other news:
https://apnews.com/60ba4af9956a4bbabe4330ea76870ef9/West-Virginia-governor,-a-Democrat,-to-switch-to-Republican
It probably won’t make a lick of difference, but I enjoy the drama of the thing.
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Posted by: Steve Frisch | 03 August 2017 at 05:52 PM
Ha, at least I am admitting I made a mistake…
WOW……! Butthurt much?!
I merely pointed it out so Gregory wouldn’t get worked up at the wrong guy…..it’s not like I busted your chops about it!
Anyway….you can just thank whatever diety that you don’t believe in that it happened here instead of over at the site of The Nations Editor™….you know how worked up he gets over minor understandable mistakes.
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More jobs coming. Praise the Lord and President Trump.
http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/2017/08/03/toyota-mazda-us-plant/538744001/
This wound’t have happened if Hillary or burned out Bern, were here today.
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It’s “Deity”…..a diety is what Pelline should look into!
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Posted by: Steve Frisch | 03 August 2017 at 06:42 PM
Trump is the master of giving you something you already have and making it look shiny and new.
Gee if you could only get some of your fellow bureaucrats to enforce the rules as written then this unpleasantness could have been avoided.
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Did find this interesting yesterday. 9th Court lacks the jurisdiction, opens the Bullet Train up for environmental lawsuits….for years to come. Another wait and see. Wait to see the final price tag for the Brown Streak to get finished and start losing money from Day 1. Only the “business class” will be able to afford to ride it. Techies.and their ilk.
http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/article165112532.html
Hmm. Thought the measure was for 8 billion when it got passed by the voters. Or was it 13 billion? Now it’s 64 billion and you know that is being overly optimistic. Another case for Calexit, or more likely, the Great State of Jefferson. Hey, didn’t Jefferson own slaves? 🙂
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Well well well. Its really good to see that the Dan Miller supporters here are finally showing their true colors the last couple days after an absolute melt down in reaction to the Hilary Hodge campaign. Dan couldn’t ask for a better Basket of Deplorables such as the 6 elderly impotent and angry old men that post on here, to show an example to the voters of his representative base. He must be so proud of you Trumpeters. Congratulations Deplorables, Dan must just love you guys.
So best of luck to Dan and his Deplorable supporters in GV. Lets not even talk about Mr. Mueller and his 3 dozen top notch criminal prosecutors honing in on the money laundering Trump/ Russia connections with his DC Grand Jury. If Trump thinks the pressure is too high now, oh boy is the Orange Freakazoid in for a suprise!
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Oh silly head shrinker, we have been called a lot worse than that…for years before our Emperor-God ascended to the throne. Your sad attempt at name calling is sooooo yesterday. You need to up your game. Guess you are new at this or haven’t met the Irredeemables yet. They are really crazy mo-fros. Have they no shame?!?!?
https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/876202792529944/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/892268590923364/?type=3&theater
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Goodbye Thursday, never to return.
This kind of help I can do without. You must be mistaking me for a Lib.
“One can’t be sure if withdrawing the white man’s vote could be considered a ‘wrong.’ Furthermore, the point here that has to be made is that banning white men from voting temporarily will help them understand systemic injustice and help them become better, more empathetic allies to the social justice cause.” —Affinity Magazine’s Malia Ro
Didn’t Hillary say that anyone who does not accept the results of the election is a threat to democracy near the conclusion or right after the 3rd debate?
“We had an election on November 8, but for many of our colleagues, the election remains undecided. They don’t accept the verdict of the American people, the Electoral College, that President Trump won the election. Hillary Clinton lost.” —Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn
“Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence.” —Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
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“Well well well. Its really good to see that the Dan Miller supporters here are finally showing their true colors the last couple days after an absolute melt down in reaction to the Hilary Hodge campaign. Dan couldn’t ask for a better Basket of Deplorables such as the 6 elderly impotent and angry old men that post on here,”
Who is Dan Miller? Some supervisor or someone who wants to be one? Dunno.
‘impotent’, it’s funny how it’s always a dick thing. Reminds me of the Sam Kinison routine about gay men, except angrier and less clever.
In any case, good luck to HH in her quest for the large chair and the microphone. Her resume seems kind of light for the job, but honestly my bet is that scarcely anyone is qualified for these gigs before they get them. The handwaving about diversity and The People will be subsumed in a wave of budgets, existing law/regulations, and hard reality.
I see that the ongoing repurposing of Marvel comics continues:
https://archive.fo/LmVk9
you know, this really is a war by other means.
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Can’t trust nobody:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4759320/The-charity-boat-taking-migrants-people-traffickers.html
Decent article, and good to read for those who think newspapers still matter as much as they did:
https://archive.fo/EnIqm
One problem here is that youtube is a monopoly run by the opposition, so it’ll be interesting to see how that turns out.
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Bun bun on a gluten free bun with some air popped potato chips. I am enjoying my delicious chocolate sundae that are the Trump lie transcripts. Trump ego was so endangered that he had to run to W. Virginia to his mommy base to ””campaign””.
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7:25 am.
Wow. Somebody is hitting the sauce early today. Weekends start Thursday night, eh?
1) A view from the opposed.
Oh no. Hating on Kamala Harris? Ain’t black enough, ain’t Lib enough I reckon. Boy, anybody who gets too close to the Clintons just don’t get Idenity Politics. Can’t please everyone.
https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/08/in-kamala-harris-the-establishment-has-its-champio.html
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