262 responses to “Sandbox – 29jul17”

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   Bunny

   29 July 2017

   Scaramoochi has been so busy fellating himself Bannon style that his wife just canned him! Thanks Mooch for setting an example for America’s children to follow.

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   Bunny

   29 July 2017

   “Stop listening to the bombastic loudmouths on the radio and television and the internet – to hell with them. They don’t want anything done for the public good.” Republican Senator and POW war hero John McCain July 25, 2017
   Senator, you can’t mean Limbaugh, Jones, Bannon, Hannity, Tucker and the rest can you?

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3. 

   Bunny

   29 July 2017

   …or, did you mean Trump?

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4. 

   Bill Tozer

   29 July 2017

   Bunny, the divorce rates in our country are quite high and high across the board in all vocations, demographics, and locales. Well, don’t know about the Amish. That was a weak argument. It’s for our children? ROFLMAO. Try again. Oh, the new name for The Mooch is The Plumber. Kill all the leakers!
   Steve has a good point on the now closed Sandbox:
   . The system was designed to be a slow deliberative process. No rushing into things that have lasting consequences. There are consequences for everything, good, bad, ugly, and indifferent.
   The silver lining I see with all this obstruction and games being played because of Resist! and Trump-Russia Derangement Syndrome is that finally the legislative branch is reclaiming its constitutional duty (powers) that they have unconscionably absconded (surrendered) to the Executive Branch, as evidenced by the last eight years. Sure, Congress tries to overreach its authority and limitations at times, but even more egregious is Congress’s failure to abide by its Constitution mandates by stepping aside and kicking its job to the Executive Branch. And yes, the courts overreach by setting policy instead of ruling whether something is constitutional, yes or no.
   It’s a two edged sword and the pendulum swings both ways. A longer view is in order.
   Now, these rules in the Senate are something else, I will give you that. Whatever rules and parliamentary procedures members of the Senate scheme and dream up can all be undone. The longer view is what is important, not the passing passions of the moment. Passing passions are like polls, being just a snapshot of one moment in time. Remember when the Pet Rock was all the rage one Christmas? Remember streaking? Remember the Cabbage Patch dolls that caused fisticuffs in retail stores when the supplies ran out? Passing passions. We have a roadmap. It’s called the Constitution. It works fine when each branch stays within its mandated limitations and no branch is delelict in its duties and responsibilities.

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   Steve Frisch

   29 July 2017

   Posted by: Barry Pruett | 29 July 2017 at 08:48 AM
   Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 29 July 2017 at 08:40 AM
   Yet another example of the descent into chaos that is the hallmark of the populist strategy for turning measured governance into the war of all against all.
   I can almost guarantee that you guys will be seeking to re-instate the filibuster as soon as 2021 when the wheel turns in the Senate.
   American governance is based on the theory that the separation of powers, a bi-cameral legislature, the appropriate check of the courts, and self imposed rules to intentionally slow decisions to secure deliberative processes, protect us from ….well….you 🙂
   Posted by: Steve Frisch | 29 July 2017 at 08:59 AM

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6. 

   Steve Frisch

   29 July 2017

   “Steve Frisch | 29 July 2017 at 08:59 AM
   You apparently don’t understand the Senate filibuster is a “rule”, not a law. And since the R’s are in the majority you can be certain we want to have that changed. That is the reason it is a rule and the forefathers did not place thatt in the Constitution. So once again you have no clue but sure can bloviate.
   Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 29 July 2017 at 09:16 AM”
   Hey Todd, did you miss the word “rule” in my post?
   You are so astonishingly either dim or a disingenuous that it makes you the perfect companion for your King Donald or his new mini-me the Mooch.

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   Bill Tozer

   29 July 2017

   Can’t please the unhinged Leftists. They bitch and bitch because the WH is in chaos, then they bitch even louder when The General and The Plumber are called in to restore order. Both scenarios give them something to do the mental masturbation thang again and again until they blow a fuse. I have never seen such a meltdown in 30 years!
   When the Trump Administration gets its act together, most of the Left will go blind.

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8. 

   Steve Frisch

   29 July 2017

   “Paul, I never condemner the use of the filibuster, where did you come up with that?”
   Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 06 February 2011 at 01:16 PM
   “Watching Ted Cruz and others filibuster up until noon was wonderful”
   Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 25 September 2013 at 09:52 AM

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9. 

   Todd Juvinall

   29 July 2017

   Steve Frisch | 29 July 2017 at 09:59 AM
   Apparently you are as smart as Hillary. The definition you use for a “rule” is the point. But being the dolt you are you are more interested in demeaning your betters. Trump is doing just fine and all you commie libs and RINO’s just don’t get it. Which works for me.
   And rather than dim I am known as a bright light for freedom and reality here in Nevada County. But you can be jealous, that is no biggie.

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    Todd Juvinall

    29 July 2017

    I changed my mind Stevie. Just like your heroes Obama and Hillary when they were against homosexuals marrying and then they were for it. I have seen the country go equally represented and the filibuster is archaic. But thanks for taking the time to see my opinion from 2011. Good work.

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    Bill Tozer

    29 July 2017

    Sept. 25, 2013? Really, Steve, you can do better than dat. I like Green Eggs and Ham.
    If Ted Cruz won the race to the WH, the same thing Trump is experiencing would be happening, but worse. The Dems hated Cruz, but the RINOS really really hated Cruz even more. Much more. More than Trump Just imagine if Ben Carson won. Oh, it would be like fingernails on the chalkboard to Bunny and the rest of the anti-religious bigots every time Dr. Carson opens his mouth and says something like “I already won the lottery. I know the Lord and wake up each morning living in America,”. Imagine how the Buttercups would react! The melting snowflakes would cause raging torrents of water flooding our coastlines. Trump Degrangement Syndrome would pale in comparison to Carson Derangement Syndrome, or Cruz Derangement Syndrome.
    Opps. Correction. The Left does like one religion. Islam. It just gets them all gooey and melts their hearts when they think of gays being tossed off rooftops, female genital multation, Shia Law, and a theocracy whose sole purpose is to expand by subduing all cultures, counties, and ethnicities to its will….by conquest. Rape is just a tool of conquest. Anything is better than the Judaeo-Christian tradition of the fascist Western Civilzation. Anything! Oh, athetesis and agnostics will have to submit to our peace lubbing Stone Age brethren, followers of the pedophile prophet. They be the good religion, the only religion to have been granted favor by our friends across the aisle
    The left can’t hide its anti-business bent, neither can it hide its anti-religious furor…with the exception being Islam. The left and Islam share similar goals of world wide domination. No thanks, I will keep using toilet paper instead.
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    Steven Frisch

    29 July 2017

    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 29 July 2017 at 10:13 AM
    Nevertheless your original contention that I did not reference the “rule” was demonstrably incorrect Todd. But people are kind of used to you being inconsistent and false….it is your “brand”.
    The thing the never ceases to amaze me is that the same 6-8 people can blather on about the same old stuff for years on end. I just drop by once in a while to laugh my ass off.

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13. 

    Bill Tozer

    29 July 2017

    Divorce! Scandal! Divorce! Trump is amazing. Is there anything he cannot do?
    “Deidre has left him and has filed for divorce,” one source told The Post. “She liked the nice Wall Street life and their home on Long Island, not the insane world of DC. She is tired of his naked ambition, which is so enormous that it left her at her wits’ end,” the source said, according to the gossip publication. “She has left him even though they have two children together.”
    “Deidre is not a fan of Trump, and she hasn’t exactly been on board and supportive of Anthony and his push to get … into the White House,” another source said. “Anthony is focusing on his children, his work for the president and the American people. There is nothing more important to him.”
    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/anthony-scaramuccis-wife-reportedly-filed-221347494.html
    In related matters of the powers of Trump, another family is torn asunder. Did read a few articles that the Lefty Loosey women have closed their legs since the election. “Not tonight dear, I have a big Trumpache.
    http://nypost.com/2017/07/27/socialite-couple-announces-trump-divorce-in-press-release/
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/fights-over-trump-drive-couples-especially-millennials-to-split-up/article/2622400
    Is there anything the Emperor God cannot do? Amazing.

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14. 

    Todd Juvinall

    29 July 2017

    Steven Frisch | 29 July 2017 at 10:57 AM
    We appreciate you stopping by so we can see what we all here knows is a humorous and dopey man. Thanks again. Your brand is of a self-important bloviator usually posting page after page of blather. But hey, we like a foil from the commie left to make fun of.

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    Steven Frisch

    29 July 2017

    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 29 July 2017 at 11:09 AM
    My point Todd was that in 2011 the filibuster was just fine with you, now it’s not, and the next time the Democrats control the Senate it will be fine with you again. You are a chameleon. Does anyone here really doubt that?

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16. 

    Barry Pruett

    29 July 2017

    Steve: My frustration with the filibuster rule is that nothing is getting done. Congress is at a stand still. Folks have real concerns and elected Trump to change the way things are done in Washington. You can’t change the way things are done without…well…changing the way things are done. The democrats and republicans have already rightfully adjusted the filibuster in connection with judicial appointments as I have advocated before. The President has the appointment power with a majority of the Senate per the Constitution. The filibuster abrogates that power. Reid and McConnell were right to change it. As far as the Senate turning Democrat in 2021 that will be tough as democrats will likely lose a net two or three seats in 2018 giving republicans a 55-seat majority. As far as congress goes Republicans will remain in control until 2023 minimum. The real issue will be can republicans hold the state legislatures through 2021 as that will dictate who controls congress for the next decade which is why Obama and holder are working on flipping legislatures so democrats can redraw congressional lines. Interesting times for sure. I always enjoy your point of view. Adds variety here!

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17. 

    Todd Juvinall

    29 July 2017

    Oh Stevie, if anyone here is a chameleon it is you. I am totally transparent. You are a lefty hypocrite without credibility on most issues. But hey, we all know that.

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18. 

    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    29 July 2017

    “American governance is based on the theory that the separation of powers”
    Nice theory. In practice, a competition between plutocrats. I can’t say that a one-party system is much better given the example called ‘California’. I suppose all that happens is that you end up with a multi-party system based on special interests (large companies, public employee unions, Green Libertarian activists, illegal aliens plus the greater Latino community, a few gun enthusiasts).
    It seems to me that Committee for Public Safety, or whatever the variant is in modern days, normally suffer from similar delusions. That you can always ‘fix’ problems by forcing people to do things not in their own interest (especially in a diverse country), that the fixes can be done all at once via some be-all legislation, and that every problem can be fixed by government. It sure is fun to try, though. Nice dinners, good seats on the plane, lots of holding of the talking stick.
    Of course, there’s always Russia to worry about, so it’s time to concentrate on that a bit.

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    Barry Pruett

    29 July 2017

    And don’t think for a second now that the filibuster has been abrogated in connection with judicial appointments that the Democrats would not do the same thing if the roles were reversed. You gotta hand it to the Democrats. They play for keeps. Elected Republicans are a little weak in taking on the establishment.

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20. 

    Bill Tozer

    29 July 2017

    The week in review…plus more crazy media misses
    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/07/29/liberal-news-outlets-work-overtime-to-hide-huge-democratic-scandal-and-more-crazy-media-misses-this-week.html

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21. 

    Steve Frisch

    29 July 2017

    Posted by: ScenesFromTheApocalypse | 29 July 2017 at 11:26 AM
    Sorry Scenes. I must insist that you use the full statement….it is not separation of powers alone…it is also the institutional mechanisms built into the system that make it work.
    “American governance is based on the theory that the separation of powers, a bi-cameral legislature, the appropriate check of the courts, and self imposed rules to intentionally slow decisions to secure deliberative processes, protect us from ….well….you :)”
    Tear the institutional support for checks and balanced out and you weaken the system…and end up with a committee of public safety….which I am pretty convinced is precisely what Bannon and his dupe Trump want to do.
    Bannon said it clearly…he is a Leninist….in that he does not want reform, etc….he wants to tear the system out at its roots and start over.
    That is why I absolutely believe that those who support his vision consciously are traitors….and those who spout it without thinking because they are incapable or original thinking, like our friend Todd….are simply ‘useful idiots.’

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    Steve Frisch

    29 July 2017

    Posted by: Barry Pruett | 29 July 2017 at 11:22 AM
    “Steve: My frustration with the filibuster rule is that nothing is getting done.”
    Perhaps instead of getting things done by rolling over each other people should start learning to get things done by collaborating with each other. That is how we used to do it…partly because our institutions forced us to.
    The argument over ‘who started it’ is increasingly less relevant as we approach a meltdown.
    Sure, we could do a meltdown….I see many here cheering for it…but as I tell everyone, left or right, be careful what you wish for, the Sans-culottes must have been shocked when the Jacobins sent them to the guillotine

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23. 

    Gregory

    29 July 2017

    Barry P 1127
    IIRC, Harry Reid said as much before the November election. Oh, what a world that would be in place come January! Man, the GOP will not know what hit them… they’ll be sorry they didn’t accept the moderate democrat Garland after they see who [I’m With] Her nominates and Schumer gets a confirmed. Happy days will here again!
    Yes, the GOP is not very skilled at cracking the whip, getting all their ducks in a row and keeping them there… it’s the Democrats who know they won’t get reelected or get the crumbs for their particular narrow constituency if they don’t do as they’re told. And then the GOP elected the amateur hour into the White House, why I’ve been railing against the “what we need is a neophyte politician with business experience to win the presidency, governorship, dog catcher, etc”. Well, this is what you get.
    Either Trump & Co. will figure out enough to move forward before their time and power runs out or they won’t. One thing is clear… the Russian Collusion story is running out of time, the Paki IT story is rising, and the inconvenient truth is that a coming grand solar minimum is not conducive to keeping the AGW alarm at a high pitch… how you gonna keep ’em down in LA paying through the nose for gasoline once they’ve seen the power of the cold side?
    Herding cats is a special talent. Pelosi and Reid were more like Siegfried and Roy. The GOP are more like these guys:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTwJzTsb2QQ

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    Barry Pruett

    29 July 2017

    I don’t know how changing the system equates to traitor?! Changing the system inside the bounds of the constitution seems healthy occasionally. Roosevelt changed the system. Reagan to a lesser extent changed the system. Lincoln certainly changed the system. I don’t think that equates to being a traitor. When it’s broke you fix it. Washington is broken. The voters finally elected an outsider (they thought Obama was but he definitely was not). In fact I am pretty sure we’d be talking about President Sanders if Clinton and the DNC had not collided against him. He got jobbed by the establishment. Folks want something different than the past 30 years of endless deficits and debt and were go to vote for anyone who was not establishment. Sanders, Carson, Cruz, Fiorina, Trump. Anybody. Trump was elected as a giant middle finger to Washington and Washington is fighting back. Anyway time to uproot the system and create a better new one.

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25. 

    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    29 July 2017

    “Bannon said it clearly…he is a Leninist….in that he does not want reform, etc….he wants to tear the system out at its roots and start over.”
    While he said it, I doubt that he knows what it means (or perhaps doesn’t care). I can’t say that tearing down a system equates to instituting Bolshevik (or Menshevik) rule. If a large part of his push is ethnonationalism, I won’t say that it’s directly opposed to Marxism, but it’s darned close. A good run through on that subject might be Walker Connor’s (who just died, interestingly enough) book on that very subject. My own guess is that he favors the primacy of culture over law, the two always being in some sort of simultaneous tension and cooperation.
    I think what is left out of this notion of control loops in rule is the very English concept of the importance of lawsuits. The greater the scope of the government (or a corporation for that matter, government being the largest example of that sort of organization), the less valuable the court systems are when the state is the opponent. The state becomes manager rather than referee.
    Personally, I think it’s too late to tear the system down. We’ve gone over the precipice where the system itself is in control, regardless of the occasional populist President. The Surveillance-Industrial state is now making it’s appearance more known and has found plenty of useful idiots in the population at large. I can’t blame them, give me the keys to Bluffdale and I expect I’d be using it to further policy goals. It’s for The People after all.

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26. 

    Walt

    29 July 2017

    Now don’t forget that “deem and pass” crap the LIBs came up with.

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27. 

    Gregory

    29 July 2017

    Frisch 1132
    “as I tell everyone, left or right, be careful what you wish for, the Sans-culottes must have been shocked when the Jacobins sent them to the guillotine”
    The folks who are trying to disarm the sans-culottes of America today are arguably the would-be Jacobins, Steven, and I don’t think those sans-culottes would be terribly shocked at all. I personally heard a number of wanna-be Jacobins telling me (and everyone in earshot) what they’d do after “Her” won to solidify power and the intellectual bigotry was astounding.
    My dread of those Assholes Gone Wild! curiously wound down when I heard the NPR commentators being worried about the early returns.

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28. 

    Bunny

    29 July 2017

    SFTA(1:10pm) “Bannon said it clearly…he is a Leninist….in that he does not want reform, etc….he wants to tear the system out at its roots and start over.”
    That is just Bannon self fellating himself
    The Bombastic one is on a roll and had to be spanked by law enforcement,
    “This is the bedrock principle behind the concepts of procedural justice and police legitimacy,” the IAPC wrote.
    Managing use of force is one of the most difficult challenges faced by law enforcement agencies. The ability of law enforcement officers to enforce the law, protect the public, and guard their own safety, the safety of innocent bystanders, and even those suspected or apprehended for criminal activity is very challenging. For these reasons, law enforcement agencies develop policies and procedures, as well as conduct extensive training, to ensure that any use of force is carefully applied and objectively reasonable considering the situation confronted by the officers. Law enforcement officers are trained to treat all individuals, whether they are a complainant, suspect, or defendant, with dignity and respect. This is the bedrock principle behind the concepts of procedural justice and police legitimacy.
    While speaking at a community college in Long Island about the administration’s efforts to take on immigrant gangs, Trump joked that officers should be rougher with suspects and suggested letting them hit their heads on police cars.
    “When you see these thugs being thrown into the back of a paddy wagon, you just see them thrown in, rough, and I said, ‘Please don’t be too nice,’” Trump said.

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29. 

    Walt

    29 July 2017

    Sorry “bun”, criminals have it too easy as it is. Thank the PC crowd for that.
    Then we have the likes of Ca. that reduce the penalties of crime. Steal a gun worth less than 800 bucks, you don’t even go to jail. Yup,, that being tough on crime.

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30. 

    Gregory

    29 July 2017

    Bunny 218om, I’d usually accept you as an expert on self fellatio but the Bannon quote on his metaphorical Leninist streak wasn’t.
    And while Trump was testing the boundaries of propriety (so what else is new?) there really is something to the issue of LEA being too nice in the context of gangs (like MS-13) in the business of drug importation and distribution. But that was virtue signaling to law abiding voters, not a command to LEA to actually beat people up.

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31. 

    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    29 July 2017

    A not bad rundown on the current chink in the Green Libertarian armor.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKzzyOsvajc
    Members of Team Blue,don’t bother. You won’t believe a bit of it anyway.

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32. 

    Gregory

    29 July 2017

    Seventy minutes of a talking head droning on is more than I can take, Scenes. Yes, I suspect there is more than just smoke coming from the Paki IT family fires, but that sort of presentation won’t be the way to get to the bottom of it.

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    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    29 July 2017

    His list for the first few minutes actually had value I think, a written version would have been easier to take. I actually learned a few things.
    Twizzling through the details of something like this is kind of a slog, and you can either ignore it all (a reasonable thing), trust an expert, or try to understand it. Not unlike climate.
    The important part, of course, is what can be sold to the public. I see that RT has picked up the story and is really working it.

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    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    29 July 2017

    Looking at that, and there’s a lot of work there, he could stand to make the Powerpoint-esque text available as a download.
    I did like one response:
    “Where’s the 17 Intel agencies when you need them!?”

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    Bill Tozer

    29 July 2017

    Deported 20 times
    http://www.kgw.com/news/woman-65-in-ne-portland-reports-sex-assault-break-in-and-car-burglary/459231264
    To mix things up, about a quote from the last paragraph. That way you know how the story ends.
    Average people agree that we should be good stewards of our lands and resources. Average people refer to climate change as the weather and seem to recall teachings from grade school that the Ice Age and other dramatic changes of climate occurred before the combustible engine. Average people tend to agree with President Ronald Reagan: “The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they’re ignorant; it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so.”
    https://patriotpost.us/articles/50349

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36. 

    Don Bessee

    29 July 2017

    It is fun to see Trump tell congress he is going to end their 0 care exemptions and stop paying subsidies to the ins. companies. If you cant kill it off right away at least you can starve it and let congress feel our pain. 😉

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37. 

    fish

    29 July 2017

    Posted by: Bunny | 29 July 2017 at 02:18 PM
    Gee Bunny….err…..umm….Michael maybe if you just worked on your flexibility a bit you could indulge this obsession of yours.
    Can’t get anybody to do it for you?

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38. 

    Todd Juvinall

    29 July 2017

    Too short

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39. 

    fish

    29 July 2017

    On a brighter note….(Bunnys difficulties notwithstanding)…. glad to get back to see things just they were when I left!
    You also may be interested to know that there are a fair number of creatures that when pulled from the Gulf of Mexico with line and hook look very much like a former Union editor of your acquaintance….Editorialis Formeris…a member of the Grouper family I believe.

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40. 

    Bill Tozer

    29 July 2017

    Don. Yep, let Obamacare linger on as written. When the pain gets too much, people will demand to fix or replace the monstrosity that McCain now defends. He should have had the brain tumor removed first, then voted. He is toast, literally, politically, and figuratively.
    You like Obamacare, you can have it. Don, did you read the gov report that revealed if the individual mandate was removed, 20 million folks would bail on Obamacare in a heartbeat. Most folks are good law abiding citizens, so the only reason they have Obamacare is because it’s against the law not to have it, lol. Nevermind the penalties for not having Obamacare are toothless, especially for those who are not required to file a tax return….like students and those living in subterranean basements. Well, remove the individual mandate in a dying individual insurance market and you will see just how wildly popular it is. Folks vote with their feet and wallets…or at the end of a gun barrel.
    You like it, you keep it. Happy now? Yo Boardman, you better be happy now. You can calm down now and quit fretting.
    Repost:
    https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/891361401014083/?type=3&theater
    Hmmm. Wonder if this what Fish meant by tin foil Depends. I won’t have to read it to find out what’s in it. I can smell it from here.
    https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/894641850686038/?type=3&theater

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41. 

    fish

    29 July 2017

    You know what would be really refreshing…….a presidential popularity poll…..haven’t had one of those for a while!

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42. 

    Walt

    29 July 2017

    Well well. Our own Fish is atop the aquatic food chain these days.
    May I suggest Apple and Maple wood to smoke that critter?(more apple than maple)

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43. 

    fish

    29 July 2017

    Posted by: Bill Tozer | 29 July 2017 at 05:41 PM
    Fo Miz Nancy?
    Tinfoil Depends™ at minimum……Kevlar might be better!

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44. 

    fish

    29 July 2017

    Posted by: Walt | 29 July 2017 at 05:45 PM
    Good F’ing luck getting them home on the airplane! We enjoyed them there….which was just fine!

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45. 

    Walt

    29 July 2017

    Who said LIBs are going to take back what? Not like this you ain’t.
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/07/29/poll-kid-rock-takes-massive-lead-michigan-dem-stabenow-gop-primary-rivals/

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    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    29 July 2017

    I just ran into this statement:
    “The Census Bureau includes undocumented, or illegal, immigrants when apportioning the United States’ 435 congressional districts, where each congressional district elects a representative to the House, by population.”
    on
    http://pluralvote.com/article/undocumented-immigration-apportionment/
    Sketchy looking web page, but is that a true statement?

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47. 

    Don Bessee

    29 July 2017

    Yes @ 620 unfortunately. 😉

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48. 

    Paul Emery

    29 July 2017

    Sorry fish I neglicted my duties. Pretty much the same polling. trump down 15.9. Historic lows nearing his low point No good news here for the Trumpers
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

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49. 

    Don Bessee

    29 July 2017

    Thanks Fish. ;-(

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50. 

    Bill Tozer

    29 July 2017

    https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/894055140744709/?type=3&theater

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