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Sandbox – 21jul17

21 July 2017

[Trigger warning – we are on travel, and connectivity might be iffy, so this sandbox might become a bit ripe if I can't freshen it in a timely manner. To preserve hygiene, be sure you're only flinging sticky mud balls at each other that may stick to the walls 😉 gjr]

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253 responses to “Sandbox – 21jul17”

Todd Juvinall

21 July 2017

Woke up and now can’t go back to sleep. Damn. So I was checking the accomplishment of the Trumpster and his Admin. Here is an excellent article with graphs for Russ and GeorgeR . Have fun. And Paul Emery will have to go hide.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/07/president-trumps-first-six-months-are-historical-with-stock-market-on-fire-and-americans-hopeful-that-america-will-be-great-again/

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ScenesFromTheApocalypse

21 July 2017

War in the 2010’s.
The idea of weaponized immigration is an interesting one.
https://archive.fo/3pYyW

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Bill Tozer

21 July 2017

Math is oppressive in all CA community colleges.
https://heatst.com/culture-wars/california-college-boss-wants-algebra-graduation-requirement-gone-says-its-civil-rights-issue/?mod=sm_fb_post

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fish

21 July 2017

“Eloy Oritz Oakley, the boss of 113 community colleges in California, made his suggestion during an interview with NPR. He said the algebra requirement is particularly troublesome because it prevents a number of students from graduating from community colleges, adding that almost 50 percent of students don’t meet the standard.
“This is a civil rights issue but this is also something that plagues all Americans — particularly low-income Americans,” he said.
“If you think about all the underemployed or unemployed Americans in this country who cannot connect to a job in this economy — which is unforgiving of those students who don’t have a credential — the biggest barrier for them is this algebra requirement. It’s what has kept them from achieving a credential.”

“This is a civil rights issue”!
Indeed it is…..much like me disappointing society by not convincing it that I deserve to be a male supermodel….with all the money and benefits that accompany that lofty position in life.
Like Eloy (jeez…the jokes write themselves) said……clearly a civil rights issue!

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fish

21 July 2017

SPICY……..OUT!!!
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/21/us/politics/sean-spicer-resigns-as-white-house-press-secretary.html

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Todd Juvinall

21 July 2017

The gap is closing now that the trimmigants are outta here. Dems up by only 1,000. We will gain the plurality back for the coming elections in 2018.
http://www.mynevadacounty.com/nc/elections/Pages/Voter-Status.aspx

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Robert Cross

21 July 2017

How often does the average person who is not working in some science or engineering field use algebra? In fact, how often does anybody use algebra in the world of software that does everything. Calculators are allowed for the SAT tests so what is the rub here other than the ‘civil rights’ statement?

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Don Bessee

21 July 2017

What do you do when there are no batteries for the calculator @921, use a slide rule, oh wait they don’t teach that anymore. 😉

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Don Bessee

21 July 2017

Here is something that will seen the po’ ol’ fakenewsman back to bed- The DNC in May had its worst fundraising month since the war started and June was no better. The DNC is in the hole for over 3 million bucks. This on the heels of Trump and the RNC setting fundraising records month after month with tons of cash on hand. Sounds like the po’ ol’ pollhead is worse than a broken clock on being right. 😉

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Walt

21 July 2017

Well,,LIBS didn’t do this.
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/boom-mining-216-q1-construction-56-manufacturing-47-bust-finance-and
The people who get their hands dirty for a living did. Trump and his rollbacks made it possible.

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Gregory

21 July 2017

What the prospective student wanted
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nauLgZISozs
What the student got
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DUCZXn9RZ9s
A diploma, but still stupid… couldn’t even get the Pythagorean theorem correct.

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Todd Juvinall

21 July 2017

Here is a “journalist’s response to my email criticizing his “astory” in today’s BEE. These people really are delusional.
“anonymous sourced? We went to all the parties involved, if you are unmoved by the association with dirty money by people in the inner circle, that’s fine. But don’t call it yellow journalism when we go to every party involved. are you denying that they tried to get a fugitive on the Interpol list a visa? seems like we proved that, Ridloff confirmed it. Seems like we went to Sater’s door, to Ridloff’s office, got the actual visa applications, went to the lawyers, talked to the airport officials who described how they vanished in the night (presumably after the visa came through). That’s reporting my friend, that’s not yellow journalism. if you don’t like the focus, fine, but learn what yellow journalism is, this was just old fashioned reporting of the facts. rgds Kevin

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Gregory

21 July 2017

Cross 921
“How often does the average person who is not working in some science or engineering field use algebra?”
Algebra is 8th (or now 9th) grade math, not rocket science. If they don’t grok algebra in “College” they probably can’t reason with fractions, either.

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fish

21 July 2017

Posted by: Robert Cross | 21 July 2017 at 09:21 AM
As somebody who struggled with math in general as well as Algebra in particular for a time think of it simply as an intellectual barrier that needs to be surmounted. It’s really not that hard to pass with a C.
How relaxed do you think the standards should be?

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Don Bessee

21 July 2017

A crumb for the po’ ol’ pollhead since he already had to grab the smelling salts this morning, only 8% of dems approve of the Presidents job performance. Even with that the dems can’t get their folks to open their wallets in opposition to the R’s. Could the dems have oversold on the special elections that cost so much money and that only brought a string of defeats? OR could it be the dems committed financial suicide with the leftiest of the left Perez and Ellison as DNC co-chairs? 😉

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Gregory

21 July 2017

fish, if someone can’t grok algebra before they graduate from high school they’re either stupid, lazy or poorly prepared.
With Common Core ™ math now the rule in k-12, assume the latter.

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ScenesFromTheApocalypse

21 July 2017

re: Fish and Gregory.
Absolutely. Simply view algebra as a form of IQ test. You can always find some subject that a particular college graduate doesn’t need in their workplace.
Another way to look at it is that the more you lower the bar, the more common a degree is, so more people need one.
Honestly, it might be simpler to cut to the chase and just hand out college diplomas to everyone at age 22.

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Todd Juvinall

21 July 2017

I used geometry the most.

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fish

21 July 2017

Posted by: ScenesFromTheApocalypse | 21 July 2017 at 10:17 AM
…..just hand out college diplomas to everyone at age 22.
Hand them out? Can’t you just mail me one?
/whine off

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fish

21 July 2017

Hey! They finally busted that Peruvian Howler Monkey who likes to choke out peoples 1st amendment rights!

IT’S DIFFERENT WHEN THEY DO IT:

Militant left-wing leader arrested for allegedly inciting violence at 2016 Sacramento melee.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/07/21/militant-left-wing-leader-arrested-for-allegedly-inciting-violence-at-2016-sacramento-melee.html

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Paul Emery

21 July 2017

Readers
Don Bessee the one who was oversold on special elections by being the instigator and main spokesperson for measure W, that ballot measure that lost 60-40 and cost Nevada County thousands to put on the ballot. Around 70,000 I believe. Gosh, that money could have been used to fix our roads.
Not a special election but a big loser especially for the Nevada County taxpayers.

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Gregory

21 July 2017

Scenes1017
“Absolutely. Simply view algebra as a form of IQ test.”
That is absolutely NOT what I wrote or intended. With competent curriculum and competent instructors, just about any student with an above room temp IQ can manage a basic understanding of algebra 1 in the 8th or 9th grades, and even a brilliant kid can have their natural abilities and motivations blunted by bad teaching.
The problem remains that virtually no kids in California public schools will have an unbroken string of competent math teachers and are now guaranteed texts not up to snuff.

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Don Bessee

21 July 2017

Talk about the po’ ol’ fakenewsman whistling past the cemetery of bad dem news today @ 1038. Golly gosh, your teams S tried to be a special, W was a regular election, not sure about the po’ ol’ fakenewsmans numbers but lets remember who sued the county at the last minute and ran up expenses. That’s lame even for the resident pearl clutcher, how does he type when he is clutching pearls in one hand and smelling salts in the other? I am glad you think I run the Board of Supervisors and the County but then you are a fakenewsman.
CRICKETS on all the real news from the po’ ol’ fakenewsman, is anyone surprised? 😉

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Paul Emery

21 July 2017

Readers
Measure W cost Nevada County taxpayers thousands of dollars to put on the ballot.
Mr Bessee, do you have the exact expense to Nevada County taxpayers that Measure W incurred?

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Todd Juvinall

21 July 2017

Well I recall when Paul Emery was involved in a monumental loss at the Supervisor level in 1994. Got whipped by a little gal. He even used my project for the middle class and poor of the community as a fouil for his candidate. But he lost and the BOS was in good hands for another four years. Anyway, we all have defeated and some get a victory. I won the election over two Nevada City liberals who were supposed to beat me badly. They felt badly but I was really happy.
So Paul Emery were you a supporter of the Nuclear Free Zone?
Bottom line, Paul Emery is a limosine liberal living in a little house somewher in the county and he helped deny 23 families from having a home.

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ScenesFromTheApocalypse

21 July 2017

“That is absolutely NOT what I wrote or intended.”
Fair enough. It is what I wrote and intended though.
I think it’s reasonable to require subjects that force people to think (and act as a form of sieve), even if they aren’t directly applicable to a person’s career as an HVAC technician. Mainstream and relatively simple mathematics strikes me as valuable even if never used. As usual, there’s algebra and then there’s algebra.
Make me dictator of the school system, and Latin is back on the curriculum.

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Don Bessee

21 July 2017

Is that phase 3 in stage 2 of denial @1111? Sad that the po’ ol’ fakenewsman can’t sustain a conversation about todays happenings, they have so wobbled him that he can’t even throw out another worst numbers EVER! Golly gosh what a way to start your po’ ol’ weekend fakenewsman. 😉

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Paul Emery

21 July 2017

Todd
That election was a close loss for Jim Weir (35 votew) however the Progressive community regrouped and two years later won District 1 with Peter Van Zant using “Remember Glenbrook” as our message about trash development in Nevada County. Thanks for the help Todd.

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Michael R. Kesti

21 July 2017

Don Bessee 21Jul17 09:26 AM
There are some calculators that have algebraic functionality but most calculators and all slide rules are about arithmetic rather than algebra.

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Don Bessee

21 July 2017

Hey Kesti, How ya been? It was about the fact that without a calculator most graduates cant do the math much less algebra. How does that prepare them for life? Ever notice how cashiers get so flustered when you give them a bill coin mix intended to get specific denomination change?
Its symptomatic of an education system that is giving out more and more A’s in HS and the SAT scores are going down at the same time. 😉

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Bill Tozer

21 July 2017

Fish @ 10:25 am.
That Peruvian Howley Mobkee teaches middle school in……drumroll please………Deepest Blue Central, CA…..a 3 hour or so drive from here.
The Lefties’ solution to education is the dumping down of their domain, and thus continues unabated. That is taking equality on the wrong road.

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Don Bessee

21 July 2017

Now I see why the po’ ol’ pollhead is so rattled today, Katie Couric said that fakenews is ripping apart the nation. Et tu Katie!
Look at the bright side, abortionists are still less popular than fakenewsmen. 😉

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Paul Emery

21 July 2017

Don Bessee can you share with our readers how much Measure W cost Nevada County taxpayers?

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fish

21 July 2017

Posted by: Bill Tozer | 21 July 2017 at 12:00 PM
Oh I know Bill! I imagine the after school “Struggle Sessions” are very rewarding!

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Bill Tozer

21 July 2017

Fish @ 12:09 pm
Milo was right. In a very calm, reasonable, and straightforward manner, Milo argued that the Lefties have had a monolpoly on our education system for 40 years, so why not let the Right run it for awhile to see if they can do better.
There is no conceivable way the Righty Tighties could do worse.

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Gregory

21 July 2017

Vidi, vici, veni. -Orange Julius
Latin was dropped from my high school the year I was slated to take it and while two years of German was entertaining, two years of Latin would probably have increased my English skills, not ruined my spelling… no, it’s friend, not freund, though being able to pronounce schadenfreude and integrating it into my vocabulary before it was fashionable was a boon. If you were appointed dictator of the school system tomorrow, Scenes, it would take years to hire the first teacher for Latin (unless said dictatorship came with the ability to ignore teacher certification rules) and unless you were fluent or knew and trusted someone who was, whoever you hired probably wouldn’t be.
If you require a passing grade in Algebra, a class and a grading rubric will be available such that most all kids will pass, even if they took pre-algebra from the idiot I was talking to recently, a wannabee pilot with a rotting ramp rat of an airplane, who “taught” prealgebra in a nearby district but had no clue how to rationalize a repeating decimal. In other words, show why .3333… is equal to 1/3, or 0.122122122… is equal to 122/999.
I fully expect all his students were set up for failure by his incompetence and the incompetence of the folks who hired him and kept him on for years. But then there were the incompetents that passed kids along to him, and those who passed the kids on after he was done with them. Now, that guy was not teaching at the Grass Valley district my kid wasted two years attending, but I recall one STAR exam result showing only one kid out of over 140 tested “advanced” in Algebra (the highest ranking, above proficient, basic, below basic and far below basic) at the GVSD.
I’d put it to you (and everyone else) that the GVSD didn’t know how to prepare kids to learn algebra or to teach it. I expect they still don’t. I do expect some are competent enough, but just do their best in flawed schools with flawed textbooks while surviving until CalSTRS starts cutting them checks.

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Don Bessee

21 July 2017

You are so cute when you stomp your foot and hold your breath @1209. You should read the new book; Fake Science Exposing the lefts skewed statistics, fuzzy facts, and dodgy data By Austin Ruse 😉

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Gregory

21 July 2017

Paul, I typically leave a $1 tip when I pay $4 for a cheap scotch and soda at my favorite blue collar bar.
That $1 tip is how much more than my per capita share of the Prop W cost to be on the ballot? How much road repair would that have bought?

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Don Bessee

21 July 2017

Now don’t burden the po’ ol’ fakenewsman with real numbers Gregory.
Iran’s munnions the so called palastiniens are in high riot mode because the police are putting metal detectors in the entrance to the temple mount after last weeks stabbings. 3 dead and scores injured, just wait till the mosques get out today. This could grow if that’s what the mullahs are looking for. 😉

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fish

21 July 2017

I confess to being a little surprised the the usual suspect hasn’t weighed in with a comment about the impending departure of the jolly Spiceman from Team Trump?!
Especially considering that the president has selected Francisco Scaramanga to serve in a similar role!

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Gregory

21 July 2017

Scaramucci.
Scaramucci?
Can he do the fandango?

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Don Bessee

21 July 2017

Fish its hard for a po’ ol’ fakenewsman to get slammed by Katie Couric on top of the rest of the nations rejection.
It looks he can Gregory based on todays press conf. 😉

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Bill Tozer

21 July 2017

Righty tighty, Lefty loosely
“For many women, it was fierce reinforcement of their perception of the Democratic candidate: Clinton wanted to be the first female in the Oval Office, and she is a woman who detests women who don’t see the world as she does.
Many liberal women thrive on vulgar language, reveling in “slut walks” and “p*ssyhats,” and many conservative women revel in being identified as Clinton’s “deplorables.” They cheer President Trump’s blunt counterpunching, which they see, despite his occasional outbursts of coarseness and ribaldry, as defending their own righteous dignity.”
The New Yorker finds the Trump supporters in Grand Junction “more interesting, and more decent than the man who inspires them.” Patterson still roots doggedly for the president and his agenda. “The more they hate him, the more I want him to succeed,” he says. “Because what they hate about him is what they hate about me.”
https://townhall.com/columnists/suzannefields/2017/07/21/the-american-divide-deplorables-vs-pussyhats-n2357725

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Todd Juvinall

21 July 2017

Paul Emery,. no I thank you for your liberal over the top stuff you did that defeated your candidate. And the project did get built later anyway. But you and your limo pals helped put your candidate out of power and a small little gal in. Thanks again.
Trash development? Yes, thanks again. You show your htpocrisy. You live in a dump but a new house for some middle class folks was too much for you limo libs. What a hoot!

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Walt

21 July 2017

I love it when Cal. LIBS get smacked in the face by a dose of reality.
http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/07/21/california-dems-learn-gun-control-easy-pass-hard-implement/

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Gregory

21 July 2017

The DNC has a new slogan, well crafted and tested:
“A Better Deal: Better Skills, Better Jobs, Better Wages”
That will be tough for the GOP to surpass! (snicker)

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Walt

21 July 2017

Pappa John’s might sue,, Gregory. The DNC can’t afford to pay the judgment.

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Paul Emery

21 July 2017

Second time request from a Nevada County taxpayer
Don Bessee can you share with our readers how much Measure W cost Nevada County taxpayers?

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Walt

21 July 2017

Good ol’ Paul. Comes back with a question as apposed to answering one.

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Gregory

21 July 2017

Second time request from another Nevada County taxpayer…
Paul, you know how much it cost. How much of my standard tip to the barkeeper of one Dollar (US) (one time only) would have covered my share?
(hint… there are about 100,000 souls living in Nevada County, it cost a reported $70k). Do the math, if you can.

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