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Sandbox – 11jul17

11 July 2017

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193 responses to “Sandbox – 11jul17”

fish

12 July 2017

Posted by: Paul Emery | 12 July 2017 at 01:55 PM
Fish
whatever…it’s all good
Indeed it is Punchy…..indeed it is!

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Walt

12 July 2017

Watching LIBS eat their own is more fun to watch.
http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/07/12/gov-brown-tries-to-cool-california-democrats-divisions-as-civil-war-heats-up/
“California’s Democratic Party is in the midst of what the mainstream media has begun to call a “civil war” as the younger, socialist-leaning “BernieCrats” challenge the older, establishment ‘corporate’ wing of the ruling party.”

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Bill Tozer

12 July 2017

Walt @ 1:33 pm
Good one. Free rent in Nutty’s noggin is great, once your fumigate the place. Overripe melon juice keeps oozing out her mouth. I loved the pics our own Heidi Hall posted of her hugging and exchanging slobber with Nancy, her awe inspiring mentor.
Random topics, all fit for The Sandbox.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1128114250655944/?type=3&theater
Sorry Scenes, I know you had enough. Oh well
https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/885280418288848/?type=3&theater
The Great Divide:
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1128115390655830/?type=3&theater

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Paul Emery

12 July 2017

“whatever…it’s all good”
That will be my standard response to any characterization of my name other than Paul or Paul Emery.

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Walt

12 July 2017

Paul takes a cheap shot at Jr., yet Clinton was udders deep and pleasuring Vlad.
http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2017/07/12/clinton-campaign-killed-bloomberg-story-linking-bills-500k-moscow-speech-russia-friendly-stance/
So just who should be up on charges for treason? Oh yes.. once again it’s OK when the Proggys do it.

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Bill Tozer

12 July 2017

Punchy, it’s all good, po pollin’ fakenewsman. Without reservations, I could recommend you to read the news. Unfortunately, I have reservations galore.
Oh yeah, respect is earned, not something you demand. Just like creditability, which you have none.
Ok, enough talking about The Punch Drunk One. It’s soooo boring.
https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/rpp.235086849974878/884748068342083/?type=3&theater

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fish

12 July 2017

Posted by: Paul Emery | 12 July 2017 at 02:35 PM
That will be my standard response to any characterization of my name other than Paul or Paul Emery.
Okey Dokey Punchy!

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Bill Tozer

12 July 2017

Bob N Weave: Boo! I see you. Here’s looking at you, kid. You are so adorable when you cross your arms and make that pouty face.
https://www.facebook.com/yaliberty/photos/a.420478680196.191456.13187955196/10154850142085197/?type=3&theater

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Walt

12 July 2017

Looky what I found! A new graphic novel for the Ca. Socialists.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/07/12/calexit-comic-book-imagines-california-in-full-scale-revolution-against-trump/
That might play out well in places like Frisco and LA,, but it would be open season in the rural world.
We used to hang dead coyotes on the fences to keep the others out. A few black masks would send the same message.

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Bill Tozer

12 July 2017

Eating their own: This would have never have happened if Obama was still in charge. The defense shield has been removed. A dozen boxes of records a Grand Jury already convened??
Blame the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy!
Bernie’s Democratic Challenger: ‘Sanders Is Hypocrisy Personified’
The FBI investigation into the alleged financial misdeeds of Sen. Bernie Sanders’ (I-Vt.) wife while serving as president of Burlington College is picking up speed, and it may in the end drag him into court along with her. The growing scandal has even drawn out a Democratic challenger for Sanders to face in his reelection bid.
On Monday, The Washington Post reported the FBI investigation into Jane Sanders has “accelerated … with prosecutors hauling off more than a dozen boxes of records … and calling a state official to testify before a grand jury.”

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ScenesFromTheApocalypse

12 July 2017

Good article.
http://takimag.com/article/the_case_for_continentalism_steve_sailer

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fish

12 July 2017

But hey there are poll numbers to generate…..and some people rely desperately on those polls…..for emotional reasons.
The basic formula for every breaking Trump/Russia story is essentially as follows:

1. The New York Times or Washington Post releases an article that at first blush appears extremely damning.
2. Anti-Trump pundits and Democrats react reflexively to the news, express shrieking outrage, and proclaim that this finally proves untoward collusion between Trump and Russia — a smoking gun, at last.
3. Aggrieved former Clinton apparatchiks *connect the dots* in a manner eerily reminiscent of right-wing Glenn Beck-esque prognostication circa 2009.
4. Self-proclaimed legal experts rashly opine as to whether the new revelation entails some kind of criminally actionable offense. (Recall the now-laughable certitude that felled National Security Advisor Mike Flynn violated the 200+ year old Logan Act.) This latest version is the certitude that Jeff Sessions committed perjury, when that at the very least is highly questionable.
(Probably best to at least read the relevant statute first.)
5. The notion of Russian “collusion” being key to toppling Trump becomes further implanted in the minds of the most energized Democratic activists, as evidenced this time around by a troupe of protesters who showed up to the Department of Justice headquarters brandishing trademarked “Resist” placards, chanting “Lock Him Up,” and (as usual) hyperventilating about Putin. As I’ve written before, Trump/Putin theories are increasingly the top concern that plugged-in “Resistance” types bring up at the highly-charged town hall meetings that have received so much attention of late.
6. Pointing out these glaring flaws in the latest anti-Russia frenzy is immediately construed by cynics as “defending Trump” or “defending Sessions” when it most assuredly is not. At least in my own case, it’s a defense of not getting enraptured by irrational hysterics to further short-term political aims.
7. People who’d spent the past 12 hours frothing at the mouth gradually come to realize that their initial furor was probably overblown, and that a more sober look at the actual facts at hand reveal that the anti-Trump chorus probably got ahead of itself…again.
8. Democrats who sought to capitalize on the uproar end up looking extremely foolish.
9. It becomes “normalized” (that new favorite buzzword!) to cast any meetings or contacts with Russian officials as inherently sinister. Rather than just a basic function of a Senator’s ordinary duties, meeting with “The Russians” is increasingly viewed as evidence of nefarious intent, and perhaps participation in a grand global conspiracy.
10. Political ineptitude and clumsiness (as was very probably the case with Flynn) gets interpreted as something more calculated than it really is. Sessions could’ve avoided this ridiculous controversy by saying something to the effect of: “I did not meet with any Russian officials in my informal capacity as Trump campaign surrogate, but I did speak with Russian officials over the course of my ordinary Senatorial duties.” The problem is, such an admission would’ve probably blown up into a big political snafu; Democrats would’ve seized on it as evidence of Russian collusion. So Sessions tried to lawyer himself out of trouble with an ambiguous comment during sworn testimony. This allowed him to sneak through the confirmation process, but created an even bigger political storm later.
11. A Trump official’s least egregious quality ends up being portrayed as his most egregious quality. There were any number of reasons to be highly worried about the presence of Mike Flynn in the Trump administration, from his bellicose posture toward Iran, to his outlandish views on the alleged threat posed by Islam. Conversing with the Russian ambassador about reducing tensions would very clearly not have been on the “reasons to be worried about Flynn” list. Likewise, Jeff Sessions is a troubling figure for a whole host of reasons, ranging from his hawkishly retrograde attitude about Drug Prohibition to his dicey history on racial matters. That he spoke to the Russian Ambassador in September 2016 would not be on the “reasons to be worried about Sessions” list.
12. The overall political climate gets further degraded and warped without any commensurate upside.

https://medium.com/theyoungturks/the-basic-formula-for-every-shocking-russia-trump-revelation-e9ae390d9f05

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Russ

12 July 2017

Only in CA:
Judge won’t release inmate in vegetative state because he can’t sign paperwork.
Clifton Harris, 60, is in a vegetative state after suffering a traumatic brain injury at the Sacramento County Main Jail, where he was awaiting sentencing on assault charges.
Authorities have not explained how he came to be so gravely injured, but they’ve made it clear they don’t want to continue paying for his medical care or having two Sacramento County Sheriff’s Department deputies guard him around the clock.
The Family wants the Sheriff to keep him since it was in his jail that Harris reached this unresponsive state.
http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article161056154.html

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Don Bessee

12 July 2017

Its another RECORD! DOW 21,532!! That’s really giving all the fakenewsmen , pink pussy hats and resistance heartburn.;-)

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Bill Tozer

12 July 2017

Dope on a Rope:
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1128417870625582/?type=3&theater

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Walt

12 July 2017

Paul!! Nevada needs you. (and a few of your friends) Get the mules packed and help stone Reno.
http://fox13now.com/2017/07/10/nevada-running-out-of-weed-state-of-emergency-declared/
A state of emergency? Isn’t that a little over the top?
They can find “Weedman St.” like they have before. (You can bet the price of street weed went up too.)

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ScenesFromTheApocalypse

12 July 2017

re: Fish@4:24PM
I’ll bet that article was written by Russians. It’s part of the International Russian Conspiracy.

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Bill Tozer

12 July 2017

Eating their own with milk toast.
The Democrat old guard got the power and the Left Flank just don’t have the votes. Maybe after 2024, but 2018 is not shaping up to look like a comeback year for the Dems from here. It’s only 15 months away.
“The event came on the heels of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee’s decision to release a series of slogans that sunk like a lead balloon with many in the base. While none were particularly inspired, one rankled the most: “Democrats 2018: I mean, have you seen the other guys?” The slogan made it abundantly clear that, after a bruising loss in November, Democrats wouldn’t be presenting new ideas or deeply examining their policy stances. Instead, they were doubling down on a visionless strategy of vanilla centrism, selling themselves as better than the worst dude”
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-warnke-democrats-centrism-single-payer-20170712-story.html?ref=yfp
Sure, it’s biased, but I am always interested in what the Far Out There Left has to say.

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Don Bessee

12 July 2017

I find it VERY interesting that the Russian lawyer who met with T Jr. had been denied a visa and that AG Loretta Lynch granted her immigration parole. That is something that almost never happens.
She is connected with the dem dirty tricks team of pissing prostitute fame AND got a freebie from the AG!?!?
Who wants to talk about podesta setting a meet with the Chinese ambassador and madam liar liar pantsuits on fire? 😉

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Todd Juvinall

12 July 2017

The democrats and the media have lost what little mind they have left. The Donald JR story has them foaming at the mouth. We should have them rounded up and placed in quarantine for rabies! DJT Jr. broke no laws and did nothing wrong meeting some Russian babe lawyer in Trump Tower a year ago. Even Alan Dershowitz, a famous liberal lawyer has said there is no there there. But that media and the dems will have none of it. Even calling the meeting an act of treason! And we have to be at war for that. Anyone know if we are at war with Russia?
So here we go again down another liberal rabbit hole and Alice doesn’t even live there anymore. These lefty folks are truly unhinged. Nothing they do to get Trump out is working. In fact, it is all backfiring. Americans are fed up and want to get the job of America going. These sideshows are hurting the country and it is all on the democrats.What a hoot!

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Don Bessee

12 July 2017

The Trump administration will have a historic impact on the federal judiciary in the mean time. He came into office with over a hundred judicial vacancies and there have been 136 resignations/retirements since Trumps inauguration. SO he is going to appoint over 250 of the 860 federal judges and he has only been in office for less than 6 months!
Toss in Kennedy at SCOTUS and Ginsberg in his first term and we can rest assured that our kids and grandkids will have their rights preserved long after we are gone. 😉

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Scott Obermuller

13 July 2017

DB at 9:52 – And that is one of the big reasons the Dems are going to go full ballistic on any slight or fabricated pretext to get rid of Trump. We still have the courts here and there to contain the left wing’s mad march toward dismantling our Constitution. Trump’s SCOTUS will hopefully stand for quite a few years as a bulwark against tyranny.

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ScenesFromTheApocalypse

13 July 2017

The story that keeps on giving.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/12/exclusive-radical-dem-worked-for-russian-lawyer-who-met-with-trump-jr/

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ScenesFromTheApocalypse

13 July 2017

Life in these United States.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/12/seattle-councilman-cleaning-poop-off-sidewalks-is-racist/

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fish

13 July 2017

Posted by: ScenesFromTheApocalypse | 13 July 2017 at 07:04 AM
That there is a higher incident of coprophilia in politicians comes as no surprise at all.

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George Rebane

13 July 2017

fish 809am – did you mean ‘corpophilia’? Does that mean love of corporations?

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fish

13 July 2017

Posted by: George Rebane | 13 July 2017 at 08:37 AM
fish 809am – did you mean ‘corpophilia’? Does that mean love of corporations?
Coprophilia (countable and uncountable, plural coprophilias)
a marked interest in excrement; especially the use of feces or filth for sexual excitement.\
Another of my snotty comments in reference to stupidities uttered by politicians!
See “Scenes” 7:04 am post above!

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George Rebane

13 July 2017

fish 853am – Can I retract my question?

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fish

13 July 2017

Posted by: George Rebane | 13 July 2017 at 09:18 AM
Granted! 😉

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Paul Emery

13 July 2017

The plot thickens, Bye Bye Jared???/
WASHINGTON
Investigators at the House and Senate Intelligence committees and the Justice Department are examining whether the Trump campaign’s digital operation – overseen by Jared Kushner – helped guide Russia’s sophisticated voter targeting and fake news attacks on Hillary Clinton in 2016.
Congressional and Justice Department investigators are focusing on whether Trump’s campaign pointed Russian cyber operatives to certain voting jurisdictions in key states – areas where Trump’s digital team and Republican operatives were spotting unexpected weakness in voter support for Hillary Clinton, according to several people familiar with the parallel inquiries.
Also under scrutiny is the question of whether Trump associates or campaign aides had any role in assisting the Russians in publicly releasing thousands of emails, hacked from the accounts of top Democrats, at turning points in the presidential race, mainly through the London-based transparency web site WikiLeaks.
Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article160803619.html#storylink=cpy

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George Rebane

13 July 2017

PaulE 932am – Pray, why would such a routine and diligent course of inquiry in this investigation thicken any plot, save in the minds of the ever-hopeful hyperventilating Trump haters, who still anxiously await the first shred of evidence of any wrongdoing while fabricating fake news of what they fervently wish could be discovered?

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Bill Tozer

13 July 2017

Dr. Rebane @ 9:48 am. You can’t fix stupid. Remember Einstein’s definition of insanity? You just responded to Exhibit A.

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Paul Emery

13 July 2017

George
Okay lets put it in the “if true shit flies” folder.
Have you checked into Cambridge Analytica from Great Britain and their involvement in the Trump campaign? I’m not implying they did anything illegal unless they sub contracted to Russia and provided them data provided by the Trump campaign.
Here’s a link for your further education.
Especially read this about Cambridge. Fascinating look at the sophistication of cyber research and facebook.
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/mg9vvn/how-our-likes-helped-trump-win

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George Boardman

13 July 2017

Oh goody, now there are two Republican health care bills in the Senate. What a bunch of bozos.

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ScenesFromTheApocalypse

13 July 2017

“I’m not implying they did anything illegal unless they sub contracted to Russia and provided them data provided by the Trump campaign. ”
Just how is that illegal?

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Paul Emery

13 July 2017

It’s pretty pathetic George B. Poll support for Trumpcare is microscopic-around 15%.
Support 16 oppose 58 dont know 26
http://www.pollingreport.com/health.htm

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Paul Emery

13 July 2017

Stupid response Scenes, surprising that it came from you. Contracting a company to provide information to Russia with the purpose of undermining the U.S .election is illegal by any estimation.

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Todd Juvinall

13 July 2017

No one has read the bill Paul Emery so the poll is BS.

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Todd Juvinall

13 July 2017

Cruz just announced he supports the bill.

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Gregory

13 July 2017

GB 1015
I think we’re all Boredmans on this bus [with apologies to The Firesign Theater]
So, why is a competing bill evidence for the GOP Senate to be “a bunch of Bozos”? That they don’t have enforcers like Pelosi and Reid to bend legislators to their will, with threats to withhold campaign cash or fund a primary challenger no matter how budget busting a “yes” vote might be?

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Gregory

13 July 2017

Todd, all the news is that the GOP bill(s) throws 22 million off the rolls of the insured because they won’t be coerced into buying something they can’t afford to buy without a punitive tax threatening them, and it will cause live puppies to be thrown off overpasses in every city in the country.

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Bill Tozer

13 July 2017

This is sweet. We, too, have a special councilperson in these parts.
“But one councilman objected to the proposal, suggesting washing sidewalks with water is a form of microaggression.”
https://heatst.com/culture-wars/seattle-councilman-objects-to-hosing-excrement-covered-sidewalks-because-its-racist/?mod=sm_fb_post
Maybe this link should be in The Commons. No having fun for the greater good.
https://heatst.com/culture-wars/harvard-university-faculty-group-proposes-banning-all-social-clubs/?mod=sm_fb_post

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Paul Emery

13 July 2017

For your reading pleasure
Trump continues to drop in the Conservative Rasmussen Poll that just a month ago Trump was bragging about. Down an astonishing 27-46 in the strongly approve-disapprove polling.

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fish

13 July 2017

Posted by: Bill Tozer | 13 July 2017 at 11:10 AM
Yeah…..I hit that earlier!
Former Black Panther….now on the Seattle City Council. Poop fetishist it seems!

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Todd Juvinall

13 July 2017

Puppies thrown off overpassses is possible by Paul Emery. And yes those 22 million won’t have to be forced to buy insurance. America!

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ScenesFromTheApocalypse

13 July 2017

re: Paul Emery@11:13AM
It’s all good.

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Gregory

13 July 2017

Punchy 1014am
“I’m not implying they did anything illegal unless they sub contracted to Russia and provided them data provided by the Trump campaign”
Did you notice that Russia wasn’t mentioned in that story? No mention at all, not even a suggestion?
That’s fake news incarnate. You made that up to tie in to your Russia fascination!

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ScenesFromTheApocalypse

13 July 2017

After this:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4114716/Extraordinary-details-ordinary-citizen-John-McCain-actually-dispatched-trusted-aide-Atlantic-dirty-dossier-ex-spy.html
Bernie’s Wife college scams, and a decade or two worth of Clinton influence peddling via their ‘nonprofit’, I sometimes think that Doctor President for Life Trump is the cleanest guy in Washington, how mighty are his wonders!

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Gregory

13 July 2017

Punchy 1113am
The Rasmussen poll (of likely voters, not Republicans) has Trump at 44%. It has been moving sideways for months. Up and down between 50% and 42%, depending upon the news cycle.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_jul13
Give it a rest.
BTW have you seen the Gavin Newsom interview on Morning Joe yesterday? According to the designated next Governator, the Russia story is a loser for Dems.

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Walt

13 July 2017

Has Paul purchased his Ca. carbon credits? His BS qualifies as greenhouse gas emissions.

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