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George Rebane

The Left predicted that yesterday's elections would be a referendum on Trump – well, it turns out they were right.

Yesterday was a disaster for the Democrats, and today everyone from their media mentors to their grassroots minions are scrambling to put enough lipstick on last night’s election results to distract the distractable.  CNN’s Eric Bradner writes, “Democrats tried an inoffensive moderate message in Georgia.  They ran a banjo-strumming populist in Montana.  They called in the cavalry in South Carolina and tried to catch their foe sleeping through a long-shot in Kansas.  None of it worked. … Now party officials, strategists and candidates are pondering what went wrong – how can they turn it around in time for the 2018 midterm elections.  … Seth Moulton (D, MA) tweeted ‘… better be a wake-up call for Democrats.’" (more here)

As another example of the reliability of political polling, the Georgia race was supposed to be a neck-to-neck race into which Dems poured tens of millions of out-of-state money to finally derail the Trump train.  Instead, Republican Karen Handel walked away from her Democrat challenger Jon Ossof with an almost six-point lead – a landslide in any political contest.  But that makes no never mind to those policy-poor liberals who, for over a year now, have put their faith in polls while voters continue to pay no attention to these futile exercises in propagandized political prognostication.

Locally we see this pattern replicated by progressives who have long since abandoned embarrassment as the usual response to being so consistently wrong for so long with ceaseless citing of their favorite poll results – ‘Never mind the election results, keep looking at how much Trump’s approval rating dropped since last week.’

These desperate loyalists have now surpassed their calamitous climate change comrades, some of whom are starting to admit in the media that their temperature predictions are in gross error and that we really have no reliable way to tell whether preventable manmade global warming is really occurring.  Scientists sensing a funding sea change under Trump are coming out of the woodwork to reveal that the General Circulation Models IPCC used for their catastrophe calculations are terribly flawed.  (Something that the rest of us familiar with the technology have known for years.)

So what to do?  Well, the Russia affair still provides some traction, so let's go back to Allegation Alley and see whom we can mug next.

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151 responses to “Elections or Polls – take your pick”

  1. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    The fact that Republicans won in Republican districts is no exactly earth shaking news George.

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  2. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    Do you believe the Russians attempted to interfere in our elections?

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  3. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 21 June 2017 at 11:58 AM
    When do we get new programming…..you’ve been in rerun since last November?

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  4. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    ELECTIONS or POLLS?
    Polls are like picking the pre-race favorite in the Summer Olympics. One runner may have set (or smashed) the World Record the previous fall. Another runner may have the fastest time in the world this year, while another World Class athlete is peaking exactly at the right time after his shocking win months earlier somewhere in Europe.
    That all goes out the window when the starting run goes off. It does not matter who is the fastest runner in the world or best or who holds the world record or the Olympic record. All that maters is who crossed the finish line first in that race on that particular day in that place against that particular field. Nothing else is of concern when awarding the Gold Medal.
    Elections or polls? Only thing that matters is who won the election, held on one particular day. There is not second place and no do overs, not matter which way the winds carry the polls.
    Of course I have an example of this. Little Indian boy, a Lakota, born in poverty on a reservation where infant mortality rate is higher than Haiti. Highest in the Westetn world. Lowest life expectancy in the Americas.. Highest drop out rate in the nation, highest acholoism and suicide rates. Second highest poverty rate (another Rez takes that prize). Poor nuetrition and no mentors. And he was not a great nor renowned runner to put it kindly.
    Makata Taka Hela won a collegiate cross country championship, yet his best time then was 2 minutes behind the best world class distance runners, He did not win the Olympic trials in the 10,000 meter run nor held any records. After qualifying for the Olympics, his best time was still a minute 9 seconds slower than World Record holder Ron Clark of Australia, who had smashed his previous World Record that fall. Ron Clark singlehandedly dropped the world record by 30 seconds during his career, maybe 45 seconds. Makata Taka Hela was an also ran in a race of the World’s best. But, he took home the Gold that day, and was not among the favorites, the best, the brightest, the strongest, nor the swiftest. Not only that, he remains the only born male in the Western Hemisphere to win the gold in the 10,000 meter Olympic event..
    I bring this up again solely because as soon as I saw Trump on that stage with 17-18 others in the R primary debates, I immediately thought of Makata Taka Hela, aka, Billy Mills. No rhyme or reason to it, can’t explain it, can’t put my finger on it, but Trump and Mills became synonymous in my mind and the catalysis for my labeling 2016, “The Year of the Reckoning.”
    Polls or elections? Only thing that matters is who won that particular race on that particular Election Day. One day, one Prize. Winner takes all. Keep your polls, I never get tired of winning. Look at Mills.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VVlKVWFmfhk
    FYI : Mills tried to rejoin his Marine platoon buddies after the Games, but was placed stateside for Military show and tell PR. In 1965, Mills got hurt and never ran competitively again. Despite the accolades bestowed upon him and his many requests, he never got what was his greatest desire in life: to rejoin his fellow Marines in 1965…in Vietnam. His biggest regret to this day. Something some will never understand, but I digress. Polls? We don’t need no stinkin’ polls. We got 100% of the prize.

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  5. Walt Avatar

    But Paul “O” did his best to interfere with Israel’s election, because “O” had no love for
    Netanyahu.
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/12/obama-admin-sent-taxpayer-money-oust-netanyahu/
    Everybody is out to mess with someone. Welcome to world politics.
    How come “O” didn’t speak up? Do tell Paul.
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/13/obama-shrugs-off-russian-hacking-until-donald-trum/
    But your assertion that Trump was “in on it” has been shot to hell.

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  6. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery is the best politician here. No matter how bad his ass is kicked in elections. No matter how off his polls are and we win. He dodges and weaves and changes the subject. So today, we kicked your butt in Georgia Six after you all thought you would win according to your polls. You spent millions more and ran a guy that was not even able to vote for himself. And you lost big. Sorry PE, you try to put lipstick on a pig and what you are selling we ain’t buyinh. SC was another voctory. 5 for 5. Love kinbking the left’s cheeks.

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  7. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1143am – You should share your equanimity with the lamestream and Dems who definitely think that their earth was shaken yesterday. They can’t stop talking about it as I have pointed out. Perhaps only in our idyllic foothills this news has been no big deal. But the big news flash for you and yours is that the Dems have to win in Republican districts if you ever hope to retake the House.
    1158am – Yes. (I think I’ve already answered you on this at least twice. And most certainly this sentiment has been reflected in multiple RR posts.)

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  8. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Elections have consequences. Don’t tell the po’ ol’ pollhead that no one but fakenewsmen care about his worthless polls. Election days are the only polls that count. 😉

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  9. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh Walt @ 12:24.
    Walt, Walt, Walt. I am disappointed in you. Lest you forgot, Paul did not vote for Obama, Susan Rice, Loretta Lynch, Hillary Clinton, Lois Lerner or Eric Holder, thus he feels no need to defend or comment on their shananigans, high crimes, misdemeanors, and human frailties. He did not vote for Obama the second time because he found President Obama below expectations on certain bothersome actions and policies. Same with My Gal and Dr. Green Stein. “I did not vote for Hillary, Bill.”
    Geeze Louise, my buddy Walt, how could you possibly forget? Well, it’s hot outside so maybe the heat got to ya.
    Hey, Paul did not vote for Jon Ossoff and neither did I or anyone on these boards. Hmm. Come to think about it, Punchy did not vote for that big fat liar murderer Bush nor that Liar-in-Chief Trumpf either, but that don’t stop him from commenting on our current and former Presidents for even one second. I could be wrong, but maybe Punchy has some hiddened biases. Who knows, maybe a Republican kid was mean to him in grammar school…or stole his date and took her to the prom. Maybe, maybe not.
    Punchy is the best water carrier for the Dems in this neck of the woods. He wins a gold star, being such a loyal good boy. Never says an ill word of his fellow comrades. Resist!
    Meanwhile, everything the Left does (including their water boy) blows up in their faces. But, but, but the historical record reveals that the minority party picks up House seats in an off Presidential year. No agrument here. I am deeply concerned thus far. Strike that. After an unbroken chain of victories, I am concerned, but not deeply concerned.

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  10. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Emery?
    Emery?
    Emery?
    Emery?
    Paul, so you think Russian influence threw the November election? Which states?
    Enquiring minds want to know.

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  11. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Follow the money. The DNC had its worst fund raising month since 03′ only bringing in 4 mill in may (all spent in GA06).
    The RNC had a record haul of 11 million for a total of 67 million (jan – may) and that does not include the Presidents buckets of cash rolling in.
    Elections have consequences and cash is king. IS anyone tired of winning yet? 😉

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  12. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Putin can breath a sigh of relief. At least he is not being blamed for this one. Love it when they stick it to “The Man”….unless you happen to be “The Man”.
    http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-kimberly-ellis-blames-democratic-party-1498064936-htmlstory.html?ref=yfp
    Hey, wasn’t Kimmy Ellis Hilary Hodge’s choice to run the united CA State Democrat Party?? All that noise about the Dems being divided and cantankerous and pissed off and flipping each other off and dropping too many F bombs at the speakers to count at the State Dem Convention was all fakenews. Hilary said so and she was there! Boy, Hilary H and Punchy should team up and share the bubble move about in. Why have two bubbles when one will do just fine.
    Elections or pollution? Tough choice.

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  13. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Dr. Rebane @ 12:46pm
    Well, outside the 40 acre township of Quaintytown, it’s a whole different world…..as you rightly pointed out. Out there, it’s finger pointing time. Finger wagging in your face time and they are so upset they plumb forgot about the Russians for almost a whole day. Inside the Local Bubble, it’s “nothing to see here, move on. Oh wait, read some polls.”
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/21/us/pelosi-georgia-ossoff-democrats.html

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  14. George Boardman Avatar

    As you as we’re on the subject of Russian meddling, I’m surprised nobody’s mentioned the Senate’s 98-2 vote to toughen sanctions on Russia and take away Trump’s power to lift them.
    Not even the Republicans trust Trump when it comes to Russia.

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  15. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Didn’t anyone tell those evil republicans in GA06 that they ruined our resident druids summer solstice? Bad republicans. 😉

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  16. George Rebane Avatar

    GeorgeB 153pm – An excellent point Mr Boardman, even if my post’s subject was the election. But since you brought up what is a clear usurpation of the Executive’s foreign policy mandate as called out in the Constitution, I wonder what you think would be the outcome if Trump decided to take this to SCOTUS. Thoughts?

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  17. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Gregory
    Never once have I said the Russian influence threw the election only that they meddled with our systems and were active supporters of Trump over Hillary. When Trump met the Ruskies in the White House he expressed a sigh of relief that because he fired Comey the pressure was off in the investigation into Russian meddling.
    ” President Trump told Russian officials in the Oval Office this month that firing the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, had relieved “great pressure” on him, according to a document summarizing the meeting.
    “I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job,” Mr. Trump said, according to the document, which was read to The New York Times by an American official. “I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/us/politics/trump-russia-comey.html

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  18. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 206pm – Oh, were that connection made anywhere else but in the NYT another anonymous official.

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  19. fish Avatar
    fish

    — DEM OPERATIVE QUOTE OF THE DAY: “We no longer have a party caucus capable of riding this wave. We have 80-year-old leaders and 90-year-old ranking members. This isn’t a party. It’s a giant assisted living center. Complete with field trips, gym, dining room and attendants.”

    http://www.politico.com/tipsheets/playbook-power-briefing

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  20. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    It’s generally accepted that the quotes cited were real news George. Trump was scolded by his own supporters after that became public and it has never been denied as far as I know. Here’s more from the link I provided
    “The White House document that contained Mr. Trump’s comments was based on notes taken from inside the Oval Office and has been circulated as the official account of the meeting. One official read quotations to The Times, and a second official confirmed the broad outlines of the discussion.”

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  21. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    You can follow this link for many more exasmples of this stary based on the quote from TRump ““I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job,”
    To make it easy here’s a google link
    https://www.google.com/search?q=%E2%80%9CI+just+fired+the+head+of+the+F.B.I.+He+was+crazy%2C+a+real+nut+job%2C%E2%80%9D&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

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  22. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Come on ya po’ ol’ party parrot, we have heard it all before and no one cares any more now than before. Shouldn’t you be off in the woods banging a rock today? 😉

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  23. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 253pm – The reason that no one besides the hopeful Left has accepted the “circulated as the official account of the meeting” as the actual official account of the meeting is that it is unsourced. It is just another one of these magically appearing leaked allegations with no imprimatur suitable for printing in the NYT.

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  24. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Never denied by Trump or anyone else George. It was a real quote. I’m surprised that you question it.

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  25. fish Avatar
    fish

    “Yet that hasn’t stopped the Democratic party leadership from taking this ball and running with it. As Jennifer Palmieri, a top official in the Clinton campaign, put it, Democrats should push the “collusion” issue “relentlessly and above all else. They should talk about it in every interview.” The New York Times writes about this conspiracy theory as if it is uncontested fact. Democratic officeholders have declared that the alleged “hacking” of the election was an “act of war” – with the NeverTrump Republicans echoing the party line – and the Twitterverse’s conspiracy theorists are having a field day with the dangerously loony contention that we are at war with Russia. What’s more, the wildest imaginings of the nutjob crowd are being taken up and amplified by “respectable” people like constitutional lawyer Laurence Tribe.
    In this way Hodgkinson’s Disease was incubated, its toxicity penetrating the mind of a suggestible and embittered little man until the poison had accumulated to such an extent that it burst through to the surface in an explosion of uncontrollable rage. Rachel Maddow is the theory: James T. Hodgkinson is the practice. The ultimate result is civil war.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-21/hodgkinsons-disease-politics-and-paranoia-age-trump

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  26. Walt Avatar

    Hay Paul. Care to comment on this?
    http://freebeacon.com/national-security/democrats-block-witnesses-testifying-house-intel-probe/
    All of a sudden LIBS don’t want to hear it.
    “House Democrats are continuing to block testimony from about a dozen witnesses who sought to appear before the intelligence oversight panel investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election.”
    Too many fingers pointing back to DEMS??? I guess more damage control is needed to deflect Lefty monkey business.

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  27. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Ruminations readers meet Don Bessee. I no longer correspond directly with him because if I did I would have to reveal details about his rather colorful personal history which I’d rather not get into.

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  28. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    OH NO the po’ ol’ fakenewsman is gonna say bad things, you guys have been playing that game for 10 years and yet I keep getting the job done for my team.
    I confess, I confess, my hottie had Russian dressing on her salad. 😉

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  29. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 338pm – And I am equally surprised that any professional in the news business would not question such a report (I guess half the country is equally surprised) – bottom line, we both have reason to be surprised.

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  30. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    I researched the question and there was no attempt by Trump or anyone else to dispute the story or it’s sources which were verified by various other sources. The NYT usually gets it right but of course not always.

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  31. Walt Avatar

    Sure Paul, whatever ya’ say. I give you proof with names and you duck the story.
    A real sad excuse of a “news man”. Can’t even refute facts produced from a ditch digger.
    Tough times Paul, but cheer up. it only gets worse for you from here on out.
    No need to respond, since I’m on your “do not respond” list.

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  32. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Now Walt, Facts and fakenewsmen don’t mix. It spoils the party parrot line. 😉

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  33. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Dr. Rebane wrote on his post Elections or Polls-take you pick:
    “Locally we see this pattern replicated by progressives who have long since abandoned embarrassment as the usual response to being so consistently wrong for so long with ceaseless citing of their favorite poll results – ‘Never mind the election results, keep looking at how much Trump’s approval rating dropped since last week.’”
    And the punch line:
    “So what to do? Well, the Russia affair still provides some traction, so let’s go back to Allegation Alley and see whom we can mug next.”
    Dr. Rebane, your words and prediction has been fulfilled in a mere matter of hours, judging by a quick skim of the last 2-3 hours of comments. Amazing to watch. Yes, when all else falls, milk that Russian cow for all she got. Russia is the reason for the season, an ever present friend to a friend in need.
    No matter the topic, no matter the election results, no matter the polls, for the Dems, Left, Alt-left, Progressives, liberals, Green Libertarians, and their water boys, it is all gets back to…..drumroll please…..”so let’s go back to Allegation Alley and see whom we can mug next.” My, my, the proof is in the pudding.
    You sir, nailed it, albeit I seriously doubt that you continue to be surprised. I am surprised that you are surprised, (per your 4:19 pm).

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  34. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “Never once have I said the Russian influence threw the election only that they meddled with our systems and were active supporters of Trump over Hillary”
    Paul E 2:06
    OK, so they
    1) “meddled with our systems” and
    2) were active supporters of Trump over Hillary
    but that didn’t actually effect any state vote counts or determined the winner of the Electoral College vote… is that your assertion?
    Regarding (1), could you name one of “our systems” that were compromised, and the nature of the evidence of (2) them actively supporting Trump over Hillary?
    The second claim seems a corruption of that 25 page partisan report’s conclusion, which assessed (meaning guessed) a bias for Trump because the believed Russian hackers tried but didn’t get into GOP systems, but tried and succeeded in getting into DNC systems, neither of which are public systems involved with the election administration or vote counting.

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  35. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Well, at least the put the word ‘hack’ in quotes. We are making some progress here. Baby steps are ok for those first attempts at trying something new.
    But she added there was no evidence to suggest actual vote ballots were altered in the election hack.”
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40357357
    Note to Dear Readers and Dr. Rebane. This is on topic because:
    A) All roads lead to Russia, and B) the Russians hacked the polling data during the 2016 election as well as yesterday.
    Elections, polls, Russia. It all is getting clearer by the day. The friggin Russians hacked the polls to make the Dems look stupid. And make the Establishment Fakenews Media look real real real stupid.
    Come on Vlady, they already looked beyond stupid. Hacking the polling data, while amusing, was not necessary. Geeze, talk about piling it on.

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  36. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    From the BBC link Toz provided:

    “Mr Liles told Congress DHS detected hacking activities last spring and summer and later received reports of cyber probing of election systems. But he added: “None of these systems were involved in vote tallying.”
    Mr Liles also said “a small number of networks were exploited – they made it through the door.”

    So, a number of systems were “probed”, which I take to mean someone believed to be from Russia was trying to get access. In only a “small number” of targeted systems, was the network accessed. No claim of vandalism or theft is made from those “small number” of networks.
    Now, such things are not new… so why did President Obama wait until after the devastating loss in November to order a report on how bad it had been, to be delivered before he vacated the White House? [cue the Final Jeopardy! theme music]

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  37. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh boy, the Federal Election Commissionis expanding its probe beyond the Congressional and Senate Committes to go after the real threat to democracy, none other than that unAmerican evil traitor and Putin surrogate, Mr. Matt Drudge. You could see this coming a kilometer away. Hmmm. Didn’t Lois Lerner catch Obama’s eye for her outstanding work she did over at the FEC? Rewarded her with the gig running the IRS, but I digress. Matt Drudge? Matt Drudge colluded with the Kremlin? Aha! Eureka!
    Too many money quotes to post. The whole article is one big money money quote.
    “She also suggested that the FEC get investigators from other agencies, prompting a critic to ask, “why would the FEC take resources away from other agencies, like DOJ, that have far more authority to actually do something about Russia?”
    What’s more, she wants to assure public that state and federal databases are safe, though the agency doesn’t have any authority over state elections boards, and has reportedly farmed out large portions of its U.S. campaign data entry tasks to workers in India.”
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/fec-dem-eyes-widening-russia-probe-to-facebook-drudge-foreign-companies/article/2626674
    Matt Drudge, the new fakenews man. Knew they would find something. Matt Drudge must be the new Rush, only more dangerous. Follow the money!!

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  38. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    This is from Trumps Homeland Security team. End of argument
    “Homeland Security official: Russian government actors tried to hack election systems in 21 states
    People connected to the Russian government tried to hack election-related computer systems in 21 states, a Department of Homeland Security official testified Wednesday.
    Samuel Liles, the Department of Homeland Security’s acting director of the Office of Intelligence and Analysis Cyber Division, said vote-tallying mechanisms were unaffected and that the hackers appeared to be scanning for vulnerabilities — which Liles likened to walking down the street and looking at homes to see who might be inside.
    But hackers successfully exploited a “small number” of networks, Liles said, likening the act to making it through a home’s front door.
    Liles was testifying before the Senate Intelligence Committee, which is investigating Russia’s efforts to meddle in the 2016 presidential election, and his remarks add some clarity to the breadth of the Kremlin’s cyber mischief. Officials in Arizona and Illinois had previously confirmed that hackers targeted their voter registration system, though news reports suggested the Russian effort was much broader. ”
    Read the whole article here:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/homeland-security-official-russian-government-actors-potentially-tried-to-hack-election-systems-in-21-states/2017/06/21/33bf31d4-5686-11e7-ba90-f5875b7d1876_story.html?utm_term=.db3db66d442a

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  39. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    When all else fails, point those fingers at Russia! Sad to see the Fakenews Lefties and their water boys reduced to being a one trick pony. Must be Putin Derangement Syndrome or somebody is slipping something into that fine Russian Stolichnaya 100 Proof vodka sold here in the States. It just can’t be the American voters rejecting the Progressive’s message across the board. Impossible. That is not even a consideration. How silly of me. It’s all about Russia, nothing else to see here.
    “And Democrats — despite the fervor among their base — are being forced to acknowledge that an anti-Trump message is not going to be enough by itself to win in 2018. Trump may have historically bad poll numbers for this point in his presidency, but Democrats are likely to need more than that to get back in the majority.”
    “And official Washington’s obsession with the Trump-Russia probe, while vitally important, is not something average voters are focusing on daily.”
    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/21/nancy-pelosi-fallout-georgia-special-election-239804

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  40. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    “This is from Trumps Homeland Security team. End of argument”
    How precious. The science is settled, the Mercedes is in the shop, and End of Agrument. Well, that settles it……but what about those new voting machines supplied to voting booths in a frantic rush just before the 2016 election? All manufactured by a Soros owned company and boy did the lobbying to get those machines in place was fast and furious.
    Opps, me bad. Paul did not vote for Soros either so we must not look under that rock. Besides, it’s a moot point. The Agrument is over. Finally, it’s all settled, except that part about the dog ate my homework. Let’s do lunch!

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  41. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh my. Must not look that way, must not find out what is behind Door #3. Lordy, Lordy, one can only imagine what goes on behind closed doors.
    “Former Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson testified before the House Intelligence Committee Wednesday, saying he was not pleased that the DNC did not turn over its compromised servers to the Department of Homeland Security for examination.”
    Host Martha McCallum asked Gowdy why he thinks Democrats might not want the DNC server examined.
    “Let me hazard a wild guess: that there may be something else on that server that they didn’t want law enforcement to see?” Gowdy remarked.
    Must not go there. Must not look that way. Nothing to see here, move on. End of agrument. “Hey, check these polls out. Look over here at these polls! Now, for your entertainment, I will pull a silver dollar out of your ear and a rabbit out of your hat.” Look this way!”
    http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/06/21/trey-gowdy-ironic-democrats-complaining-hacking-russia-dnc-clinton-trump
    Elections or polls-take your pick.

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  42. Walt Avatar

    The one BIG point our fake news guy just wont touch.(screw his boiler plate excuse)
    This was ALL under “O”‘s watch, and “O” knew about it. It was only a big deal when Hillary LOST.
    Nope, Paul doesn’t give a sh*t about that, no matter how new worthy that is.
    Oh Yaaa….. Still no connection to Trump.. Sure sucks to be Paul. Still waiting for that “bombshell” you promised.

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  43. Walt Avatar

    But here is some dirt on our greenies love affair will electric buggies.
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/06/21/delingpole-tesla-car-batteries-co2-not-remotely-green-study-finds/
    About as “ECO friendly” as a tire fire.

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  44. Paul emery Avatar
    Paul emery

    Bill’s reputation as a Putin cuddler remains intact. Bill and Trump last ones that deny Russian interference

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  45. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    “”Homeland Security official: Russian government actors tried to hack election systems in 21 states”
    I suspect that intelligence agencies from countries of any size at all did the same thing, along with a bunch of private parties. Given the tendency of the US to do the same thing in spades to others, I fail to feel any particular outrage. Who knows, the fishing expedition might end up with something of value someday, it just hasn’t so far.
    I do have to say that the breathless news flashes would be well served by learning what ‘hack’ means.
    a (somewhat) oldie but goody.
    http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/11/the-other-much-worse-hacking-story/

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  46. Walt Avatar

    Yet Paul is all crickets when “O” used taxpayer money to screw with Israel’s election.
    How soon you forget even after facts supplied.

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  47. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Shouldn’t our po’ ol’ druid be out pounding on rocks and trees? Well at least pound sand fakenewsman. 😉

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  48. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Not one vote changed by hacking if it happened. But we see now maybe five million illegals voted. Trump was on to something.

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  49. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    I just heard the unifying theory about why the DNC failed to allow inspections of their servers. The DNC had the back channel to Putin. It makes sense in a way, madam liar liar pantsuits on fire gave Vlad the uranium and took their money and set up a tech center in Russia which she was warned would be an intellectual property security problem for the US.
    As Rachel madow says, if that happened then we know the rest of the story. The DNC went back to its roots and is a communist tool or a bunch of tools. 😉

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