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The War on Trump โ€“ yes, I believe that itโ€™s now a full-fledged war in which the objective is to remove a duly elected sitting president โ€“ is steaming full speed ahead.  Yesterdayโ€™s clarion claim that the president had โ€œshared sensitive intelligenceโ€ (supposedly the name of a middle east city) was modified today to have really been secret โ€œcode wordsโ€ according to NPR.  The whole thing was sourced to unnamed WH officials who were also supposed to have contacted the CIA and NSA to give them a heads-up on the Russiansโ€™ Oval Office visit.  Now understand, no one has presented evidence that the president did anything wrong.  In fact, three senior officials โ€œtrotted outโ€ by the White House โ€“ National Security Advisers McMaster and Dina Powell (for strategy), and SecState Tillerson โ€“ who were actually in the room, all denied the story calling it โ€œfalseโ€ and โ€œIt didnโ€™t happen.โ€

But that makes no never mind to those dedicated to the destruction of this presidency.  All the miked politicos and talking heads continued lecturing the nation on what should and should not be said by the president, and what damage such revelations would do to our intelligence apparatus and relationships with allies, and on and on.  The careless listeners heard that such revelations actually happened; in no such breathless reports was mentioned that there still was not one shred of evidence on which to base the manufactured hysteria.  One Democratic MoC even called for another special prosecutor to be immediately commissioned to discover if Trump had committed an impeachable offense.  The hysteria of accusations and CYA statements by politicians of all stripe that now blanket the news cycle knows no end.

To illustrate the extent of the froth on this stormy sea, one worthyโ€™s looney logic presented conclusive evidence of wrongdoing based on, McMasterโ€™s and Tillersonโ€™s statements denying that โ€œMr Trump disclosed any sources of US intelligence services or those of US alliesโ€.  He claimed the allegation must be true since neither gentleman specifically โ€œdeniedโ€ that any city name was mentioned, therefore it must have been mentioned โ€“ say what?!  By that logic, since the mention of secret agentsโ€™ names were also not specifically denied, it must be true that such names were in fact also revealed by Trump.  And once allowed, this โ€˜logicโ€™ of guilt by omission has no end to it.

Is that the end of this volley?  By no means, since tonightโ€™s pile on is Comeyโ€™s allegation that last February the president asked the FBI director in private to halt the investigation into former National Security Adviser Flynn.  Somehow Comey failed to share that little tidbit with anyone else until conveniently after he was fired.  But now the Dems are screaming โ€œobstruction of justiceโ€ and demanding that another special prosecutor be named.  Soon the main reasons for Washingtonโ€™s gridlock will be the shortage of cops on the streets to direct new special prosecutor traffic.

Will we ever get back to fixing healthcare, tax reform, regulatory reform, filling federal appointments, revisiting our trade policies, immigration reform, โ€ฆ ?  Not if Team Chuckie has its way.

[20may17 update]  Again political cartoonist Ramirez communicates concisely.

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294 responses to “The War is On (updated 20may17)”

  1. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “Obama told lies all day long and Paul lapped them like a dog laps up water on a hot day”
    -SO
    “Didn’t vote for Obama second time around Scott”
    -PE
    Scott didn’t say or inferred you had voted for Obama the second time around, Paul, and it is my considered opinion that the November presidential election would not have been Trump and Hillary had the NYT and the WaPo have been as anal retentive about statements by Pelosi/Reid/Clinton/Obama as they have been when playing gotcha with Trump and his staff since everyone woke up on Nov 9 to find not only had the undemocratic Democratic Party screwed the pooch the day before, but the GOP was in a position of strength nationwide it had not enjoyed since the days of flappers doing the Charleston.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ7SNTSq-9o

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  2. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Fakenewsman po’ ol’ PE is now getting exorcised about Turkey? NATO member Turkey, base to our air war on ISIS in Syria Turkey? Well they are close to Russia on the map, right?
    It seems that the former minority counsel for the Watergate investigation called the comparisons to Trump as bordering on the absurd. Lets see our resident fakenewsman dismiss democrat Michael Madigan who was part of Watergate and is now the speaker of the Illinois house of representatives. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  3. Piper Laurie's Former Shrink Avatar
    Piper Laurie’s Former Shrink

    Don, Paul touched on this earlier, but can you please explain in further detail your experiences with the US legal system? I think it really may help everyone to understand things better, specially from the perspective of a Flynn or a Manafort as two examples. ie, Who and how many besides those creeps are going down? Stone, Page? How many more months do you think Trump has left as President? Polling shows the majority of Americans think less than 3 years.

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  4. Ronald Raygun Avatar
    Ronald Raygun

    “Roger Ailes dies.” FoxNews lawyers are breathing a sigh of relief…

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  5. Russ Avatar

    No prosecutor would bring this case
    From the Daily Signal:
    Democrats likely know this is not a viable obstruction case, said Jordan Sekulow, executive director of the American Center for Law and Justice.
    Even if the Times story is entirely true, he said, โ€œIn the words of James Comey: No prosecutor would bring this case.โ€
    Sekulow added:
    Obstruction of justice is a loaded term. Itโ€™s political to create an impeachment scenario. The bar is lower, but we have a Republican Congress. This is just political warfare. It was enough to get the Washington media talking about it. โ€ฆ During the Obama years, when people would talk about impeachment, weโ€™d always discourage that talk as no way to get things done.

    Clearer heads than our local lefty commentators with a questionable understanding of the law and how it works.

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  6. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Ronald Raygun | 18 May 2017 at 05:46 AM
    Why….! They already paid him to go away!

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  7. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    “the fact that Trump “hired” Flynn knowing he was under investigation by the FBI is astounding.”
    Hell, over 50% of the country voted for a Presidential candidate in the same boat.
    Given that almost all of the current uproar concerns information that wasn’t available in former years, due to the evolution of a metastasized security state and constant surveillance of everyone by someone, it seems to me that the real story is the presence of a slow motion coup d’etat by the intelligence services.
    Stay focused on polls, Russians, and Obama book deals. Everything will be fine.

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  8. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    Hang on, 100% of the country voted for a candidate in the same boat. My bad.

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  9. shiningcityonahill Avatar
    shiningcityonahill

    What ailed Roger Ailes…his butt buddies Donald and oReally getting thier asses kicked?

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  10. John Avatar
    John

    HRC’s crimes and associated plea bargain are going to sink Team Emery and the Deceietful Dems and they know it. They are simply hoping to keep the attention on Trump with their continued smokescreen. Mueller’s investigation will vindicate the phony Trump/Russia collusion deal, and reveal the real source of the DNC leaks was Seth Rich who was killed. That is the real story here. Wait for them to switch gears and claim that Mueller is really a just partisan hack. They are all as dishonest as the day is long. From HRC to our own little leftist operative.

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  11. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: shiningcityonahill | 18 May 2017 at 08:12 AM
    You are the Rebanes Ruminations “Well Crafted Sentence of the Day” winner!
    Well done!

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  12. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    John
    You’ve got to deal with it. Hillary lost the election, Trump is still President.

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  13. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    What @ 947?? Has fish taken over po’ ol’ PE’s mind? ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  14. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    re Paul E. at 9:48 – Yes Paul, you have reminded us several times about the fact that you voted for Obama.
    He was lying from the start. The facts were available to anyone who looked at the man’s record and associates.
    And during his second term, when did you ever rush to this blog to announce any of Obama’s failings as you do with Trump? Never.
    When did Paul ever rush to this blog to breathlessly announce any of Hillarys’ failings? Never.
    It’s OK, Paul. You have the right to be conned by the folks of your choice. Please don’t try to tell us you aren’t partisan.

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  15. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Why should I trumpet Hillarys failings Scott? I made it clear I wasn’t going to vote for her. I was highly critical of Obama on this blog especially about Obamacare, is a mess and his mid east foreign policy. I am all for Single payer and Obama made a colossal error when he put together his mish mash of a health care plan. I voteds for Gary Johnson. Who did you vote for?

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  16. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    You can expect crickets from the po’ ol’ pollhead on the fact that his beloved polls show no one cares about Comey.
    What I care about is the business channel breaking the unemployment application number, DOWN 238,000 last week. They called it a generational low, a 28 year low to be specific. Nice note to start the weekend on.
    Then the Prez will announce the establishment of a Suni NATO in Saudi Arabia. I saw numbers as high as $200,000,000,000 in arms sales announcements for the Suni NATO that will be highlighted too. Sweet. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  17. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    “Why should I trumpet Hillarys failings Scott?”
    Answer: because you are partisan, Paul.
    It’s OK to be partisan, Paul. It’s OK.
    “Obama made a colossal error when he put together his mish mash of a health care plan.”
    Obama made it clear his ‘mish mash’ of a health care program was a deliberate first step towards your cherished ‘free health care’ plan you are so eager to see instituted.
    The notion that you criticized Obama as equally as Trump is laughable. You are always careful to name Dems and the Dem party respectfully while Rs and Trump get the ‘funny’ little monikers. Which is OK, as we all do that, but please, Paul – you are sooo in love with the Dems it isn’t funny. The more you protest that you are non partisan, the goofier you appear.
    You are a socialist, Paul. And your politics align far more with Obama/Hillary than any actual Libertarian candidate I’ve ever heard of.
    Voted for Ben Carson. Would have been a wonderful POTUS. His skills as a brain surgeon would have worked perfectly to make Lefties heads explode.

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  18. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Scott Obermuller | 18 May 2017 at 12:35 PM
    Yeah…..that covers it nicely!

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  19. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Make no mistake about it. They are going after the Trump voter, not Trump. From Obama’s bitter clinger comment to Hillary’s basket full of Deplorables and irredeemable crack to Boardman calling us David Duke racists the day after the election to Hilary Hodge’s editorial about who among our neighbors could have voted for Trump…its all about making Trump supporters as unsympathetic and subhuman as possible That is the War and the war is on.

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  20. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    re: ScottO@12:35PM
    “…deliberate first step towards your cherished ‘free health care’ plan you are so eager to see instituted…”
    More precisely, it’s the “$3000 deductible and with small stuff you go to Yubadocs” plan, with not a lick of other niggling details, like how it’s paid for.

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  21. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    re: BillT@12:48PM
    “its all about making Trump supporters as unsympathetic and subhuman as possible ”
    Jump in the untermensch pool, there’s plenty of room!

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  22. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    I’m for single payer all he way.

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  23. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Paid for by taxing everyone like in Denmark. Simple

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  24. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    How many people are out of the workforce in Denmark, refuges not included po’ ol’ PE? ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  25. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Singlr payer to me is a commie idea to control people down to their SNA. So PE must be one.

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  26. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Paul 122 & 129, it’s brain farts like you had there that belies that “green libertarian” claim of yours. While I’ve had a number of Danish and other Scandinavian friends who are wistful of their old benefits, they also escaped to live in the US to escape the high taxes and lack of choice in so many things. The actual coersion towards conformity and actually working in school and in life is not something that would translate to the US.
    The average Nirvana Silly slacker would be aghast… yes, Danes can be bloody judgmental.

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  27. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Well, let’s see how single payer works here in CA first. Let’s see. We have 12% of the nation’s population and about a third of all the USA’s welfare receiptants. So, those on the dole already have single payer and they don’t pay any taxes. Sounds like somebody will be paying up the ying yang for single payer, and it won’t be just the rich. It will fall on those who are living check to check.
    I played with some figures on Covered California just for kicks.. I dropped the income to about $1,200/month and was shocked to find that poor soul would be paying $600 bucks a month with a hig deductible. Even half that much (300 clams a month) would cut into the gas and food money big time. Or go apply for Medicaid or a Medi-Cal or whatever the broke system calls itself.
    Medicaid has to be better than the single payer system known as the VA. It just had to be better even with the bar set on the ground. That free system is an abortion of healthcare. Now, the Feds pickup 90% of CA’s Medicaid (the Obamacare 100% reimbursement is phasing out as written) and CA can’t even afford the measly 10%.
    The solution is to tax the crap out of people. My doc don’t take Medicaid nor Obamacare. And he is a bleeding heart Nam Vet. He would darn nearly work for free. Wait, he did. He wanted to keep the lights on and help folks, but with all the Obamacare regs and measly habitually late reimbursements from Uncle Sham, he had to lay off one office gal, another gal who weighs ya and takes your blood pressure, and darn near lost his practice and stayed up late doing paperwork. Live and learn. But that is just a doctor’s experience. The tax man cometh and he will be asking for a boatload of money. They will try their darnest to squeeze out every last drop of a penny out of us turnips. It’s for da po folks.
    Now that CA is screaming they can’t make the Medicaid payments, I have a great idea. Why don’t we just expand the program, give away the store, and let “the other dude” pay for the ride. Lib logic 101 always pencils out when “the other dude” will pay for it. It will save exactly who money? It will pay for itself? It will be self supporting through its own contribtions? Sure, Socialist Commie bastards, whatever you say. Money grows on trees.
    To pay for some of it, we could remove the illegal aliens who suck up 18% of the State’s budget. Without those who are not permitted to be here, we might have two coins to rub together so Granny can get her teeth…and fund the Bullet Train that only the well to do could afford to ride on as passengers when all is said and done.
    https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/850065305143693/?type=3&theater

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  28. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Emery?
    Emery?
    Emery?
    Emery?
    The latest from Ben Stein:

    “Thereโ€™s no evidence whatsoever of any crime, so expect major convictions.
    …The issue was made incredibly clear โ€” inadvertently โ€” by Bob Beckel on Fox News Wednesday night. He was talking about the need for a Special Prosecutor. One of the sane people on the panel said something like, โ€œBut thereโ€™s no evidence that anything wrong was done.โ€
    Beckel, who says heโ€™s sober now, answered something like, โ€œThatโ€™s why we need an investigation.โ€
    But, if we are to investigate everything thatโ€™s not proved, as to which there is no evidence, then letโ€™s start looking for zombies or spiders from Mars or flying saucers. Letโ€™s try looking for evidence of wrongdoing by Trump on planets in other galaxies millions of light years away.
    What we are seeing now is the physical manifestation of a bunch of high school girlsโ€™ hysteria as we saw in The Crucible. Mr. Rosenstein has bowed to the fantasy paranoid hysteria of the mean girlsโ€™ sorority known as the mainstream media and appointed a Special Prosecutor to look into โ€” a fantasy. Thereโ€™s no stained dress. No hollowed out pumpkin. No hollow nickels with microfilm. No, thereโ€™s just the mean girlsโ€™ sorority determined to get the Pi Phiโ€™s, and somehow getting the deputy A-G to go along with their fantasy and pretend thereโ€™s something real about an allegation that a Pi Phi stole another girlโ€™s boyfriend and flew away with him on her broom. And heโ€™s a Special Prosecutor. Heโ€™ll find something someone did wrong somewhere. It wonโ€™t be about the subject โ€” Russia-Trump collusion in the election. But he will find something and someone will go to prison. Thatโ€™s what Special Prosecutors do (to Republicans). Thatโ€™s why they exist. Heโ€™ll find something.
    https://spectator.org/witch-hunting-for-trump/

    Scooter Libby lied to an FBI agent about something immaterial to the issue that Special Persecutor’s task (who leaked Plame’s name, and the FBI already knew the answer… it was no one they could charge with anything partially because Plame wasn’t covered by the statute… so there was no real crime in the first place) but it was just before the November election and it would be damaging once the rabid news hounds started tearing into GHWB. With any luck, the new Special Counsel will be an equal opportunity inquisitor.

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  29. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    So what’s the excuse for tromp hiring Flynn to be our top security guy when he’s aware that Flynn is under investigation by the FBI ?

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  30. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    From Paul – “I’m for single payer all he way.”
    And so is the Democratic Party.
    It’s OK to be a Democrat, Paul. You have that right.
    Be proud.
    Trump is still POTUS.

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  31. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Paul, the witch hunt isn’t about Flynn being tapped for a Trump white house job.
    Riddle me this: why were people supporting Hillary for POTUS knowing she was under investigation by the FBI?

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  32. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Beats me I didn’t support or vote for her.
    Obama and the Democrats did not support Single Payer Scott. You know that.

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  33. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    re: PaulE@1:22PM
    “I’m for single payer all he way.”
    OK, now we’re down to “$3k deductible with Yubadocs for the small stuff with only one insurance company”.
    Dunno how one insurance company is more efficient than two fighting over a contract, but I’ll go with that. Maybe “single payer” implies government cash flow from soup to nuts, but that isn’t the way that Medicare works now, so I’m not sure if .gov bookkeeping is in the cards.
    OK. $10.5k per person per year on average. Let’s say an insurance monopoly saves money (no guarantee there), I’ll deduct 5% or so due to newfound efficiencies in the single payer plan and ignore the fact that more people will go to the doctor if it’s free. A side note is that either everyone gets healthcare equivalent to the very best healthcare, or some people have a decrease in quality. Call it $10k / person / yr.
    So, if a family of four has to kick in $40k / yr, is that in their income tax? property tax? Hopefully they get a nice raise when their employers save the money on healthcare. Maybe some sort of new VAT? or business tax?
    Honestly, I have no problem with a public monopoly in insurance or healthcare itself, as long as you can show that it’s a superior answer. What I find objectionable is how adamant people are about something that they haven’t even begun to think through. For one thing, none of the financing concepts people present deal with cost reduction aside from inventing a monopsony.

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  34. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: ScenesFromTheApocalypse | 18 May 2017 at 04:08 PM
    Honestly, I have no problem with a public monopoly in insurance or healthcare itself, as long as you can show that it’s a superior answer.

    It won’t be.

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  35. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 18 May 2017 at 04:05 PM
    Obama and the Democrats did not support Single Payer Scott. You know that.

    Good to see that you haven’t lost your comedic talent……I’m a little bit concerned about your grasp on reality though.

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  36. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    I seem to recall Obama the candidate in 2007-08 telling a group that this was a incremental thing about healthcare and that over time it would become single payer. Sounded like a plan to me. All democrats too.

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  37. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    When Obamacare was being debated, 85% of the insured got healthcare bennies from their employer and the vast majority were happy with it. Preexiting conditions already covered and you could keep the kids on til 24 years old (in my case). I started a one job with the employer paying around 94-95% of the premiums, down from 96% the year prior. When I left, the employer paid about 81-83% of the premiums, and we complained, but were very happy with it. That is employer sponsored healthcare insurance where most of the people receive healthcare policies. As a nice tax benefit, the premiums were taken out of the check in pre-tax dollars, so your gross income was higher than your taxable income. Sweet. A good deal.
    But, we were told that we have to destroy that employer sponsored system to insure the 15% uninsured. Like painters and their families, sole proprietors, folks working for small outfits, and some slackers looking for handouts. It is the INDIVUAL insurance market that is so darn expensive. When we hear of yet another Aetna or United Health pulling out of the market in such and such state, they are only leaving the unprofitable individual market and staying with their business/employer clients.
    So, let’s destroy the market where 85% of the folks are happy with their quasi-affordable health insurance and spend billions to insure a small minority without the wherewithal to pay for health insurance?????? Destroy the healthcare system of millions upon millions to insure a nutcase like a councilperson in Nevada City who says it’s her right because it is part of her “pursuit of happiness”? Beam me up. I think the Chem Trails has befuzzled its mind. Oppps, I said “her”. Me bad. Looking at its picture, it’s hard to assume it’s gender for sure, but I digress.
    We have Medicaid in place. They can get food stamps and a free cell phone, assuming of course they have tin foil hats to protected their scrambled noggins against brain tumors. They can get cash assistance, help with housing, have others pick up their trash and litter, so what more do they want. When is enough enough?
    All I am saying is let’s not ruin a good thing for 85% of the workers happy with their employer sponsored bennies and spend untold pallets of cash to give healthcare away to the less fortunate. Obama bragged that Obamacare now insures 20 million folks. What he did not say is that Medicaid picked up those who lost their jobs, those who became eligible by age, and those who went postal with total stress breakdown after Trump held My Gal’s severed head high for all the world to see with his sword in the other hand.

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  38. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Bill
    That’s 85% of the insured Bill. How about the millions of uninsured and those unable to get insurance because of pre-existing conditions, And what percent of the “insured” were on Medicare or Medicaid or government insurance of another kind. If you want your argument to have any validity you need to tend to those questions.

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  39. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Don’t you know fakenewsman @501? ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  40. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Punch Drunk,
    Pre-existing conditions are outlawed. Millions uninsured? Yes. What, 8-15 percent? Young folks who don’t sign up? If you are over 30, you can’t even buy a catastrofic policy. That is soooo wrong. Feel free to go to Yuba Docs. They take everyone and they take cash. Meanwhile, I have to pay for breasts exams and pediatric eyecare and probably mental health services for wackjobs boys who think they are girls. That is so wrong as well. Operative words here is “have to.” No choice.

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  41. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    “Obama and the Democrats did not support Single Payer Scott. You know that.”
    Did not when? 20 years ago? Paul – seriously. Read the news.
    The Dems are for socialized medical – Obama said he was aiming to do that. California Dems are trying to set up a socialized medical plan NOW. Try to keep up.

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  42. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    “and those who went postal with total stress breakdown after Trump held My Gal’s severed head high for all the world to see with his sword in the other hand.”
    lol. OK, you win the internet for the day.

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  43. Paul emery Avatar
    Paul emery

    Obamacare is not single pair that’s what Obama proposed that’s with the Dems supported

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  44. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Can someone translate from quaintycityese @ 720 please. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  45. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    re: PaulE@5:01PM
    “That’s 85% of the insured Bill. How about the millions of uninsured and those unable to get insurance because of pre-existing conditions, ”
    Once you slice and dice the groups, what’s left is probably manageable. You’ve got people with employee-based insurance, people on Medi-Cal, military and union retirees, Medicare-ites, self-employed who had reasonably (usually) priced insurance.
    What’s left is people with pre-existing conditions, who had pretty shitty poorly funded pools, and folks who just don’t buy insurance because they can go to the emergency room any old time and don’t have assets to protect.
    So, do you blow up the whole system just to suit those last two groups? Why not just provide government subsidies for sick people (ie. have a cap on policies to what a healthy person would pay). Dunno what to do about folks who simply won’t buy insurance even if they could afford it…have you always bought insurance as a self-employed person? Perhaps we should have tied drivers licenses to having health insurance.

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  46. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    re: DonB@7:25PM
    I believe that “Obamacare is not single pair” actually means single payer, although I’m not convinced that Obama has a single pair.

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  47. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Good one Scenes. I think we will have single payer in about 7 years. Can’t prove it, just believe it is coming. I want to see how Uncle Jerry and his den of Commie thieves go with single payer in CA first. Let’s see how that works. You know, each state doing its experiment in democracy to see what works and what doesn’t.
    One thing I love about Libertarians is their unshaken belief in limited government. Quite the opposite of what the Alt-Left believes. Kudos to them

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  48. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Which is why it probably won’t go through just in California. The Dems will push it nation wide so folks like Paul won’t realize just how messed up govt run health care is. Once it’s national, it will be too late. Obama care was just the first big step towards ‘free’ national govt run health care. Obama said so.
    Don’t worry, Paul. We’ll have single payer within a few years. But of course it will be a mess and Paul will complain that “they didn’t do it right”.
    Paul’s explanation of his master plan for nationalized health care is the equivalent of a 5 year old explaining how to build a space ship.
    “It’s a big thing with stuff coming out of the back and it goes into space!”
    It’s way more complex than folks like Paul can ever dream of.

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