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George Rebane

The War on Trump – yes, I believe that it’s now a full-fledged war in which the objective is to remove a duly elected sitting president – is steaming full speed ahead.  Yesterday’s clarion claim that the president had “shared sensitive intelligence” (supposedly the name of a middle east city) was modified today to have really been secret “code words” according to NPR.  The whole thing was sourced to unnamed WH officials who were also supposed to have contacted the CIA and NSA to give them a heads-up on the Russians’ Oval Office visit.  Now understand, no one has presented evidence that the president did anything wrong.  In fact, three senior officials “trotted out” by the White House – National Security Advisers McMaster and Dina Powell (for strategy), and SecState Tillerson – who were actually in the room, all denied the story calling it “false” and “It didn’t happen.”

But that makes no never mind to those dedicated to the destruction of this presidency.  All the miked politicos and talking heads continued lecturing the nation on what should and should not be said by the president, and what damage such revelations would do to our intelligence apparatus and relationships with allies, and on and on.  The careless listeners heard that such revelations actually happened; in no such breathless reports was mentioned that there still was not one shred of evidence on which to base the manufactured hysteria.  One Democratic MoC even called for another special prosecutor to be immediately commissioned to discover if Trump had committed an impeachable offense.  The hysteria of accusations and CYA statements by politicians of all stripe that now blanket the news cycle knows no end.

To illustrate the extent of the froth on this stormy sea, one worthy’s looney logic presented conclusive evidence of wrongdoing based on, McMaster’s and Tillerson’s statements denying that “Mr Trump disclosed any sources of US intelligence services or those of US allies”.  He claimed the allegation must be true since neither gentleman specifically “denied” that any city name was mentioned, therefore it must have been mentioned – say what?!  By that logic, since the mention of secret agents’ names were also not specifically denied, it must be true that such names were in fact also revealed by Trump.  And once allowed, this ‘logic’ of guilt by omission has no end to it.

Is that the end of this volley?  By no means, since tonight’s pile on is Comey’s allegation that last February the president asked the FBI director in private to halt the investigation into former National Security Adviser Flynn.  Somehow Comey failed to share that little tidbit with anyone else until conveniently after he was fired.  But now the Dems are screaming “obstruction of justice” and demanding that another special prosecutor be named.  Soon the main reasons for Washington’s gridlock will be the shortage of cops on the streets to direct new special prosecutor traffic.

Will we ever get back to fixing healthcare, tax reform, regulatory reform, filling federal appointments, revisiting our trade policies, immigration reform, … ?  Not if Team Chuckie has its way.

[20may17 update]  Again political cartoonist Ramirez communicates concisely.

Ramirez_170520

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294 responses to “The War is On (updated 20may17)”

  1. Russ Avatar

    And, then there was this assessment:
    The mournful assumption among many of Trump’s supporters is that the frenzy of media hysteria, though almost comically baseless, is nonetheless dangerous because, on the throw-enough-mud-and-some-will-stick principle, it has an abrading, delegitimizing effect, a drip-drip-drip apodosis that is corrosive of trust.
    That may very well be the case. But I suspect nonetheless that the primary victim of the malicious static will not be Trump but the media, which has passed from carping hostility to surreal fantasy.
    Two things are happening. On the one hand, the media’s credibility has entered a death spiral. On the other hand, Trump keeps chugging along, toting up victories and setbacks, just like every other successful politician known to man.

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  2. Russ Avatar

    Yet another assessment by the Diplomad 2.0 who has over 30 years of dealing with diplomatic issues under multiple Presidents:
    On the subject of legalisms, let’s get all the legal technicalities and quasi-legal mumbo-jumbo out of the way. The President has the right and duty to meet foreign officials, to discuss matters of concern to the United States, and to seek their cooperation in those matters. That includes meeting the Russians. Russia is a big, important country. There is nothing wrong with talking to the Russians and trying to find areas of common agreement and cooperation.
    The President, under the law, furthermore, can say or reveal anything he wants. Material is classified if the President says it it is; it is not classified if the President says it is not. The details of a private conversation by a US official with a foreign official normally are classified. Usually, that is. When it’s the President, well, it’s a Schrödinger paradox, to wit, the cat is both alive and dead . . . you know the issue. . . the conversation is both classified and unclassified. The ultimate authority here, however, is not the Attorney General nor the FBI Director . . . it’s not even poor Schrödinger, it’s the President. Our President has the power, under our laws, to determine if the cat is alive or dead. Nobody else. So if the President wants to say something to a foreign official, he can; if he wants to give away the location of our nuclear subs, he can. Just ain’t nothing the lawyers can do about it. Good? Bad? I don’t know. It’s the law. The President decides what is or is not classified.

    When I listen to the reporters, talking head and pundits I get the sense they have no idea of how the government really works and lack a basic understanding of the constitutional authority of the President. We are not a third world banana republic, but a republic none the less.

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  3. Eric Anderson Avatar
    Eric Anderson

    Apparently Comey shared it in memos he’d written and will produce. And it is ludicrous for anyone to claim that Comey should’ve resigned when Trump asked him, in an act of obstructing justice, to halt the Russian investigation (Lindsey Graham did just that). It would make a Constitutionally-foul request into a successful command. No way, Comey did the right thing, gathering evidence, setting the wheels of prosecution in motion, and documenting the man-baby’s criminal actions along the way. Get used to it, stop whistling past the graveyard, your man Trump is going down. Massive number of indictments in the works, mark my word.
    Bye bye Trump, bye bye GOP.

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  4. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    At last the Repubs are waking up
    ason Chaffetz Says He’s ‘Ready’ To Subpoena James Comey Memo
    “If the memo exists, I need to see it and I need to see it right away.”
    “If the memo exists, I need to see it and I need to see it right away. We are drafting the necessary paperwork to get the memo, so we will find out in a hurry if it’s there,” he said.
    “I do have the ability to unilaterally issue a subpoena if need be ― hopefully, if this memo exists, they will turn it over voluntarily and swiftly, but we are writing a request as we speak.”
    In a letter published later Tuesday, Chaffetz asked acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe to provide “no later than May 24, 2017, all memoranda, notes, summaries and recordings referring or relating to any communications between Comey and the President.”
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jason-chaffetz-comey-subpoena_us_591b7cd9e4b0a7458fa402fb?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

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  5. Eric Anderson Avatar
    Eric Anderson

    No need to start a war George, we all agree that a criminal should be punished. War hooey is just incitement. Time is now to get on the right side of history.

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  6. Russ Avatar

    Putin – You want proof Trump DID NOT reveal top secrets.
    SOCHI, Russia, May 17 (Reuters) – Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Wednesday that U.S. President Donald Trump had not passed any secrets onto Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov during a meeting in Washington last week and that he could prove it.
    Speaking at a news conference alongside Italian Prime Minister Paolo Gentiloni, Putin quipped that Lavrov had not passed what he said were the non-existent secrets onto him either.
    Putin said Russia was ready to hand a transcript of Trump’s meeting with Lavrov over to U.S. lawmakers if that would help reassure them.
    Two U.S. officials said on Monday that Trump had disclosed highly classified information to Lavrov about a planned Islamic State operation, plunging the White House into another controversy just months into Trump’s short tenure in office. (Reporting by Denis Pinchuk/Jack Stubs/Maria Tsvetkova; Editing by Andrew Osborn)

    http://news.trust.org/item/20170517115015-r09uu
    To have a complete transcript of the Trump meeting Lavrov may have been wired, recording the whole meeting. Probably with a spy pen, capable of recording 60-90 minutes all encased in a Mount Blanc fountain pen case.

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  7. Russ Avatar

    THE RUSSIAN HACK: It sounds like a Hillary conspiracy theory, and it is.
    R. Emmett Tyrrell Jr:
    How did we find ourselves at this comic pass with the Democratic Party warning us of the Russian menace — the Democratic Party whose members have included Alger Hiss and, more lately, Bill Ayers? Well, turn to the recently released bestseller written by Jonathan Allen and Amie Parnes, “Shattered: Inside Hillary Clinton’s Doomed Campaign.” All the pundits are talking about it, and there are things to admire in it. For instance, turn to Page 395. There you will find this revelation: “Hillary declined to take responsibility for her own loss . Hillary kept pointing her finger at Comey and Russia . That strategy had been set within twenty-four hours of her concession speech . For a couple of hours [Hillary and her aides] went over the script they would pitch to the press and the public. Already, Russian hacking was the centerpiece of the argument.” Now it is the “centerpiece” of the mainstream media and the Democratic Party’s campaign against Donald Trump.
    In her own words, now the media is carrying the ball for Hillery. The press and media have become unhinged. We have stopped watching the TV News, searching for sanity online and podcasts by rational folks.

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  8. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    We are witnessing the death spiral of the media. Their planned coup of the Trump Administration will just blow up in their faces per usual, but this time their fingers will get blown off as well.
    As Newt recently said, “If Washington is the swamp, then MSM is the muck.”

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  9. Russ Avatar

    Main Stream Media Hypocrisy
    Obama Gave Classified Intel to Russia. Chief executives share intel when it suits them, but it’s less often that the leader of one country reminds another that “After my election I have more flexibility” to deliver on things his own people might not approve of.
    No outrage, no calls for impeachment, no huffing and puffing, and screaming at critics who are attempting to tell the truth when Obama gave classified data to Russia. Why now? Hypocrisy!

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  10. George Rebane Avatar

    Today there is wholesale reporting as fact that Trump shared forbidden secrets with the Russians. However, there is not one piece of evidence to support that report, several witness denials that any such thing happened, and now even Putin is weighing in with an offer to provide Russia’s record of the meeting. Nevertheless, the war proceeds apace.
    BTW, some not so careful readers (e.g. EricA 1109pm) confuse an assessment that a war has started with actually starting a war.

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  11. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    I have written the democrats in Congress asking for their resignations, all of them. Maybe if everyone started the same thing we could get some attention on the loons of the left?

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  12. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Frump twisting slowly in the wind
    A former Department of Justice official promised MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” that ousted FBI director James Comey has even more damaging evidence against President Donald Trump.
    Matthew Miller, a former communications director for the Justice Department and spokesman for former attorney general Eric Holder, warned the Trump administration last week that Comey kept meticulous notes when he believed there was evidence of wrongdoing.”
    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/you-probably-dont-leak-the-worst-memo-first-ex-doj-official-predicts-comey-has-more-dirt-on-trump/

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  13. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    We don’t care about all those lefty attacks. Fake news and hurt feelings. My goodness.

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  14. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    Todd 5/17 8:01
    “I have written the democrats in Congress asking for their resignations, all of them.” Such requests will be on the public record. This will be quick and simple enough to fact check. When and how Todd?

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  15. fish Avatar
    fish

    Good to see the democratic socialists getting onboard with the new Pence administration!

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  16. fish Avatar
    fish

    Well to be fair…..it takes one to know one!

    OBAMA THINKS TRUMP ‘BULLSHITTER’…

    http://people.com/politics/what-does-barack-obama-really-think-of-donald-trump-hes-nothing-but-a-bullsh-ter/

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  17. Russ Avatar

    ELIZABETH PRICE FOLEY IN THE NEW YORK TIMES: Trump’s Statements Are Not an Obstruction of Justice.
    Widespread howls erupted, including by editors of this paper, asserting that President Trump obstructed justice. But as distasteful as the president’s statements may be, they do not constitute an obstruction of justice. Indeed, if they did, virtually every communication between criminal defense lawyers and investigators would be a crime. . . .
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/opinion/trumps-fbi-comey-statements-are-not-an-obstruction-of-justice.html?smid=tw-share&_r=1
    Elizabeth Price Foley
    Professor of Law
    http://www.elizabethpricefoley.com
    The lefty progressive thinkers view the world as they would like it to be, not how it really is, thus they start screaming before the facts are known. How hard is it to look up the law on the obstruction of justice, or ask a lawyer to explain it. Most of Fox News Anchors are former lawyers and know the law, some even clerked at the Supreme Court. That could be the reason we get a more a rational analysis of the news on Fox, which the left does not watch. They have trouble dealing with facts.

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  18. Russ Avatar

    If Trump Committed a Crime, Comey Failed to Report It.
    Gregg Jarrett of Fox News argues that if Comey believed the president’s statements to him amounted to obstruction of justice, then Comey himself committed a crime unless he promptly reported those statements to the Department of Justice. However, if Comey concluded that Trump’s language was vague, ambiguous or elliptical, then he had no duty under the law to report it because the statements weren’t criminal.
    From all that appears, Comey did not report Trump’s statements to the DOJ. A memo to the file, even if shared with a few confidantes, wouldn’t constitute the reporting required in the event Comey believed Trump committed a crime.

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/05/preliminary-thoughts-on-the-comey-memo.php
    Logic: No crime committed! Keep searching lefties!! And, how about coming up with more proof than anonymous sources.

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  19. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Well, let’s see the memos. All of them. If Comney wrote memos in February on the clock, they are property of the FBI. If he took them home, he removed government property from the site. Let’s see all his memos of meetings with Justice Department officials from both administrations and Congressional leaders. All of them. The belong to the FBI, not the fired director. Then let the chips fall where they may. I hope Comey did not take any memos with him and then leak them. Those are big time criminal felonies if he did.
    Seems to me that Comey has testified under oath to the House Intel Committee, the Senate Intel Committee, the House Judiciary Committee, and the Senate Judiciary Committee, one testimony just last week. Not a peep about the memos or nary a word about obstruction of justice by anyone in the current administration. Zilch. Now a memo circulates from February?
    I agree with Dr. Rebane on this one. It appears to be a CYA memo written before he got fired. I would like to see all his CYA memos. What did he say about HRC, BHO, and congressional leaders?
    Quoting Holder’s Fast and Furious spokesman Miller does not generate much faith with me. Eric Holder…..isn’t he the guy who was held in contempt of Congress for not answering questions? Lynch replaced him after his legal woes began to mount for his stalling tactics and they were ready to drop the hammer on him. Surprised he lasted as long as he did.
    If Miller is right about Comey keeping meticulous notes, then let’s see them all. Oh, the Leftists should be careful what they wish for. Popcorn time. Subpoena pen in hand and show us the goods….all the goods.

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  20. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Obama in April 2016 in a presser sent Comey his orders to drop the case on Hillary. And he did! So, what are the staute of limitations on that piece of obstruction?

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  21. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    The mucky media has gone from fakenews folks to dishonest news folks. No wonder only 6% of Americans surveyed trust the mucky media. It is indeed an act of mercy that the dishonest media are blind to how they are viewed by the American people. If they got just a glimpse of the utter contempt they are held by the public, they would have no choice but to put a gun in their mouths and pull the trigger. They good news is their arrogance prevents them from seeing themselves as the majority of others see them. Always a silver lining.

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  22. George Boardman Avatar

    Of course we can believe everything we’re told by members of the Trump administration. Just look at the explanation for why Comey was fired: Pence, Conway and Spicer insisted the president acted on the recommendation of Rod Rosenstein.
    But Rosenstein made no such recommendation, and Trump admitted later he was going to fire Comey anyway. Of course we can believe everything we’re told by members of the Trump administration.
    For a more clear-eyed conservative view of the situation, I recommend the lead editorial in today’s edition of The Wall Street Journal: “Loose Lips Sink Presidencies.”

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  23. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    And your pals said Rosenstein wanted more money and if he did not get it he would resign. Lots of this going around so don’t be so smug. And 6% of the country says you are all liars.

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  24. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    What poll did you get that from Todd? I thought you didn’t believe in polls. Besides 6% is tiny so what’s the big deal.

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  25. George Rebane Avatar

    GeorgeB 1058am – Rosenstein outlined in his memo why Comey’s past actions made him unsuitable for the FBI director’s job. Whether or not Rosenstein explicitly recommended firing Comey does not mean that ‘acting on’ the memo ignored Rosenstein’s suitability conclusion.

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  26. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: George Boardman | 17 May 2017 at 10:58 AM
    ….and for all his Bull in a China Shop antics he still has more credibility than the media!
    Gawd but these are fun days!

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  27. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    The bottom is falling out. Trump score is in the 30’s in the latest polling average. -15% All time low for new President heading for Nixonion-Bush lows
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

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  28. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    This is one funny thread. The fakenews hyperventilation is so bad you have to wonder when they get any oxygen? 😉

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  29. George Boardman Avatar

    Re Dr. R’s 11:25: The point here is that either Trump or Pence was lying. Take you pick.

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  30. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: George Boardman | 17 May 2017 at 01:16 PM
    A politician lying…….? That’s unpossible!

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  31. George Rebane Avatar

    GeorgeB 116pm – Apparently my 1125am was dismally unsuccessful in demonstrating that neither of them could have been lying. Pity.

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  32. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Dr. Rebane, you are an optimist if nothing else. You expected what from them? ROFLMAO. The Punch Drunk One is still lost in pollin’ cyberspace and the one who lives behind the guarded walls was the first to come over here on the morning of November 10th to call us a bunch of David Duke racists and start fretting about Obamacare. Now, my good man, go ahead and expect something different. You’re a better man than me. Indeed hope burns eternal. They are blinded by hate, duh.

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  33. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    So it begins-Special Prosecutor appointed by Justice Department-Should have been done weeks ago.
    “Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein has appointed former FBI Director Robert Mueller to serve as special prosecutor overseeing the investigation into Russian influence in the 2016 presidential election.
    In a statement, Rosenstein stressed that his decision “is not a finding that crimes have been committed or that any prosecution is warranted.” But he said he’d determined “based upon the unique circumstances, the public interest requires me to place this investigation under the authority of a person who exercises a degree of independence from the normal chain of command.”
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/doj-special-counsel-russia-trump_us_591cbfa2e4b03b485cae5465?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

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  34. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 17 May 2017 at 03:49 PM
    Dammit Punchy….enough of your Huff Po folderol……where is todays poll?

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  35. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Sorry you missed it Fish I was right on time around 11AM. Here it is again for your reading pleasure.
    The bottom is falling out. Trump score is in the 30’s in the latest polling average. -15% All time low for new President heading for Nixonion-Bush lows
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

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  36. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 17 May 2017 at 04:12 PM
    OH THANK GOD……..

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  37. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    FAKENEWS ALERT @ 349- I was actually on my way here to ask how long would it take the fakenewsers to start the propaganda that a special prosecutor was appointed as opposed to the fact of the appointment of a special counsel.
    Po’ ol’ fakenewsman PE beats me to the punch and even has the hufpo link to the ‘special counsel’ story below his opening line lie. How pathetically predictable po’ ol’ PE has become. Sad. 😉

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  38. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Who cares Don. I do realize that you have much more experience in the legal system than I do but we won’t go into that now.

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  39. Russ Avatar

    Quote of the Day:
    NICK GILLESPIE: All This Impeachment Talk Is Pure Trump Derangement Syndrome. “For god’s sake, they wanted him impeached even before he was the Republican nominee.”
    George and I met Nick a couple of years ago at a George Mason University conference in Arizona. Interesting guy, but was a bit intimidated by our matching western vests. Nick Gillespie is editor in chief of Reason.com and Reason TV, the online platforms of Reason, the libertarian magazine of “Free Minds and Free Markets.”

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  40. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Russ | 17 May 2017 at 04:55 PM
    Interesting guy, but was a bit intimidated by our matching western vests.

    Really?
    Mr. Gillespie is referred to as “the jacket”….I assumed that a mutual interest in distinctive attire would grease the conversational skids a bit!

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  41. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Now you have sunk to new pathetic lows po’ ol’ PE. A fakenewsman who does not know the difference between a special prosecutor and a special counsel and sloughs off the lie with who cares? Well if you think no on cares why bother lying? 😉

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  42. George Rebane Avatar

    For those interested, ‘special prosecutor’ has historically referred to an individual commissioned to assemble and lead his own investigative team on a given allegation that may lead to criminal prosecution. ‘Special counsel’ is in this cas an ad hoc designation of an investigative head to assume leadership of an ongoing investigation with established resources that has already made considerable progress in pursuing its objective. Special counsel does not start from scratch or with his own team. Mueller’s appointment was just this side of political genius.

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  43. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Another benefit of a Trump admin is that fed govt computer hard drives no longer crash, folks remember everything, staffers aren’t found murdered from ‘bungled robberies’ and reporters suddenly care about the veracity of officials’ statements. So things are better already.
    I’m waiting for Paul to announce Trump’s poll numbers that show that everyone, including Trump, disapprove of his presidency. But he’ll still be president.

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  44. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    DonB, Paul Emery does make up a lot of fake news. And his own facts.

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  45. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Oh, my. (in my best Mr. Sulu as bass a parody voice as I can muster)
    There’s dancing in the streets!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G4jnaznUoQ
    Now all the new special persecutor has to do is actually find a GOP crime that can be pinned on Trump, the old fashioned way… convincing a majority in the Congress (House and Senate) they should vote to get rid of DJT, when a majority in the Congress are GOP.
    Watch out though, as the Grand Inquisitor will, by my hallucinations, also be able to look into the just whether or not the FBI was doing as due a diligence on the possibilites a murdered DNC staffer (said to be a robbery gone bad ’cause the killer(s) forgot to take anything) now thought to be in possession of something north of 40,000 pilfered emails.
    In other words, be careful what you wish for. you may get it. At least Nixon’s Watergate and the Clinton impeachment had crimes at their center.

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  46. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Things are going from bad to grim for the ol’ Trumpster -day 118 of his ascendancy. Now we find out that Frump knew about the investigation into Flynn and hired him anyway. Another Trump lie. During his interview with Holt he denied knowing about the investigation.
    From Fox News:
    Weeks before President Trump’s inauguration, Michael Flynn told the transition team he was under federal investigation for working as a paid lobbyist for Turkey during the campaign, the New York Times reported late Wednesday.
    The disclosure by Flynn on Jan. 4 was first made to then-Trump transition team lawyer Donald F. McGahn II, who is now the White House counsel, two people familiar with the case told the newspaper……….
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/17/trump-transition-team-knew-flynn-was-under-investigation-before-inauguration-report-says.html

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  47. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Paul at 8:21 – There’s nothing in the linked article that backs up your assertion. Could you provide a bit more proof?
    And we notice that Fox News is now gospel for Paul.
    Gee, what happened to the Bible?
    Obama told lies all day long and Paul lapped them like a dog laps up water on a hot day.
    My, how the times have changed.
    As I foretold, a Trump presidency would re-invigorate the fourth estate. They seem to have awaken from their 8 year slumber. How cute. How hypocritical.

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  48. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Didn’t vote for Obama second time around Scott.
    the fact that Trump “hired” Flynn knowing he was under investigation by the FBI is astounding. Once again for you reading pleasure
    ” Michael Flynn told the transition team he was under federal investigation for working as a paid lobbyist for Turkey during the campaign, the New York Times reported late Wednesday.”

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  49. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    PE 821
    Paul, you seem to be conflating two different pieces of that jigsaw puzzle you carry around in your head. Perhaps if you’d actually quote the relevant statements from the Holt interview that might show the “lie” in the light of the story Fox carried.
    If only the left held their own to the same standards of truth and deception, fact and error.

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