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[It pained me to read that legal analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano was suspended by Fox News, and I hope that he will soon be reinstated.  But I take heart that FN is an outlet that allows its senior correspondents to air items they consider important and true, and then hold them responsible for any subsequent mistakes.  To me this makes FN a more credible, comprehensive, and, yes, more balanced broadcaster when its reporters (consider Chris Wallace and Shepard Smith) and talking heads don’t have to get an OK from some lockstep editorial board in the head shed before going on the air.  gjr]

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235 responses to “Sandbox – 21mar17”

  1. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    from an idiot abusing my first name:
    “The tea baggers destroyed the very bill they’ve been waiting to pass for 7 years!”
    If it was the bill they had been waiting for, why would they destroy it?
    Apparently it was not the bill they wanted. I realize wading through legislative detail is beyond the leftistas intelligence, but please let us conservatives have some time to get it right.
    ScottyM has no answer.
    And from our local newsliar-by-his-own-definition: “Didn’t vote for O second time around,…”
    Too stupid to figure it out the first time, Paul? Hmmm? I had him nailed right out of the gate. Why did it take you so long?
    Oh, take your time – I’m sure you can figure out some sort of diversion given enough ganja.

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  2. Walt Avatar

    Yup, the bill was crap. Ocare 2.0 . All designed by the “establishment” to give a little, yet keep a lot. LIBS are cheering that 25 million people keep theirs. Well what about the half billion of the rest that can’t afford to use what they are paying for? (You know, the ones that are actually paying into it?)
    LIBS love to yap “Democracy! Majority rules the day! ” Up until THEY are in the minority.
    Since Ca. loves to mandated heath care, how come they won’t treat the patient?
    The “state” owns my now life long injury. Yet one do a damned thing to correct it, or pay for meds they are responsible for? Nice double standard.

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  3. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Scott @ 5:58 pm
    The reason Paul did not, could not, would not vote for Obama’s opponent in 2008 is because “the maverick” John McCain was a neo-con warmonger. Paul does not believe in bombing Iran and expanding the Industrial Military Complex. McCain is bad, Obama good. Now, both Mc Cain and Obama are good. Go figure.
    https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/819466824870208/?type=3&theater
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1051496698317700/?type=3&theater

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  4. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Yeah Todd, Trump won and your a winner..

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  5. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Oh – there’s Paul – hey, about those questions I asked you…
    Ah, the ganja…
    You just sit now and try to think about maintaining your bodily functions.

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  6. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    But he was just trying to provide a better life for his family.
    http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/03/23/four-time-deported-ms-13-gang-member-charged-child-rape-stabbing-2-women/
    So, when is an Islamic attack not an Islamic attack? Is Bama running Golly Ole England?
    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/03/23/theresa-may-islamist-westminster-attack/

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  7. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Does anyone remember that Paul Emery guy that used to post here about single payer health care?
    Now that it’s in play in the state that he lives in, you would think he would make some mention of it.
    Funny ’bout that.
    Moonie Brown doesn’t like it, cause he knows it won’t work.
    Paul is suddenly silent about his fave program. Strange that.
    Awfully funny about these chaps that champion programs for years and then go silent-like about it. Kinda like they were just full of the stuff that comes out of the back end of certain quadrapeds.

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  8. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Single payer for sure

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  9. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Update to my 541- Forgot to add the shootings in France today to the weeks jihadi’s latest fun and games. 😉

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  10. Walt Avatar

    Scott. I TRIED to get Paul to sing the merits of CoveredCa. Nope, not a peep. It has what? 2 years left of FED seed money? Then it’s all our baby. Paul won’t say where that wonderful money to keep it running and everyone gets everything healed at someone else’s expense.
    Nope not a word. The state pawned me of to the VA.(OH JOY…..)
    Since Ca. loves it’s illegals, the likes of Brown and Kevin de León (who admits half his family is here illegally, and uses fake docs.) who will be pushing for healthcare for them.
    Good luck asking D.C.
    There is always taxing dope to pay for it.

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  11. Walt Avatar

    “Single payer”.. Yup You pay for your own fixing, and I pay for mine.
    There is your “single payer” system.

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  12. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Walt @ 710- It would seem that po’ ol’ PE’s idea of single payer is that he is not a payer, its some other payer paying. Very comrade Bernie socialist snowflake of him. 😉

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  13. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Walt, the State has already said they can’t afford to eliminate the sales tax on feminine hygiene products because they need the money for CA’s healthcare costs. Yes, it another idea from some LA wackjob state rep to help poor women and looks like it will die on the vine. I say if they get a tax break for needed products, I should get a tax break for living with them during the times the feminine hygiene products are needed.
    Our State is foregoing needed maintance on bridges and roads because the money is needed on such things as…..healthcare costs and general fund needs. Another gas tax coming, this one a 42% increase. Seems the Cap and Trade revenues are but a fraction of the projections. Somebody needs to pay for the bullet train. The last gas tax went for the bullet train and hundreds of thousands of low income housing, but it ain’t enough. Meanwhile, the potholes and crumbling bridges can wait.
    Cigs are going up 2 bucks a pack on April Fools Day, but the money will be raided per the States standard method of operation.
    I have a great idea. Let’s bring more poor unskilled people with grammer school level education in to our state with impunity from around the globe to help pay for the ride.
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1051304498336920/?type=3&theater

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  14. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Paul Emery at 6:57 – Uh, no Paul. Apparently you disconnected with reality a little too long to comprehend the facts.
    California’s most left wing gov just said NO to single payer.
    Not – fer sure.
    Which brings us back to my point. KVMR’s news director can’t figure out what’s going on in the state he resides in.
    But Paul has his own agenda – I’m sure he’ll share with us when his fingers can correspond with the nerve impulses emanating from what’s left of his cranium.
    Fer sure.

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  15. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Switching to the social media front, I think I smell a double standard. It’s ok to post to go out and kill white women? Learn something new everyday.
    https://www.infowars.com/hunt-kill-all-white-women-facebook-post-deemed-not-hate-speech/
    Well, maybe not kill all white women. Keep the conservative ones. Ok, maybe not kill all the ones from Sweden.
    https://www.facebook.com/UncleSamsMisguidedChildren.Net/photos/a.169953786533962.1073741830.169676909894983/653720698157266/?type=3&theater

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  16. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    But wait! Maybe Moonie will plop for this tax payer give-a-way!
    http://calwatchdog.com/2017/03/23/california-democrats-release-plan-make-public-college-debt-free/
    Then of course there’s free food and housing for everyone!
    You need food and housing even more than health care, so what’s stopping your side, Paul?
    Oh, please posit for your side, Paul! We certainly await your wisdom!
    Boy – I never dreamed libertarian govt could be so generous!

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  17. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Bill T – just a “joke” Bill! Get it? “kill all the white women”?
    Ha ha ha
    The reality is kill all the black unborn kids in America.
    Isn’t the left a gas?

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  18. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Single payer the most efficient health care for all. Cut out the filthy 26 million salaries for the top execs and give reasonable healthcare for all.

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  19. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    what a comedy. I just saw our soon to be ex Speaker of the House whimpering on Fox News sniveling “we tried and did the best we could” Oh well, who’s next?

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  20. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    I’m interested on your opinion of this:
    Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin joined Axios’ Mike Allen this morning at the debut of his News Shapers event series to talk about his new role in the Trump Administration.
    On AI supplanting human jobs: “it’s not even on our radar screen…. 50-100 more years” away. “I’m not worried at all” about robots displacing humans in the near future, he said, adding: “In fact I’m optimistic.”

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  21. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Hilarious – I knew once he started trying to make his case he’d fall over his own stupidity.
    “Cut out the filthy 26 million salaries for the top execs and give reasonable healthcare for all.”
    Please explain, Paul – 26 million people getting 1 dollar? 26 people getting a million dollars?
    You know, Paul – dope has a name for a reason.
    Please expound on your fascinating theories.
    26 million dollars goes a long ways in Plumas County or Alpine County.
    You realize the State of California alone would suck up 26 million in administrative costs to start a Health Care web site?
    And please tell us what is filthy about people earning a salary?

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  22. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery | 24 March 2017 at 06:18 PM
    Yes I am and you aren’t. Makes me smile.

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  23. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Glad you’re a happy guy Todd

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  24. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    That’s all from me for a couple few days. Tomorrow night I’m performing my show “A Thousand Kisses Deep the Songs of Leonard Cohen” at the Crest Theater in Sacramento. We’ve already sold 650 tickets but if any of you are interested in going you can buy tickets at :http://paulemerymusic.com/1000-kisses-deep-the-songs-of-leonard-cohen-3/

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  25. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    By the way thanks for the diversion guys (no women here) Kinda fun hanging out here once in a while.

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  26. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Who is Leonard Cohen?

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  27. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Todd
    Check this out. It’s a Sacramento Bee article about our show and Leonard Cohen
    http://www.sacbee.com/entertainment/music-news-reviews/article70343827.html

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  28. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 849pm – He is out of his ever lovin’ fucking mind. Stay tuned, more posts on the tragedy of US systemic unemployment made worse by the onslaught of uncontrolled low-skilled illegal entrants.
    Break a leg tomorrow night.

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  29. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh goodie. Paul has been watching tapes of SNL and ready to do his Hillary version of Hallelujah at the piano. Good riddance for the weekend, ass wipe. FOAD, asshole pothead.
    https://www.facebook.com/UncleSamsMisguidedChildren.Net/photos/a.169953786533962.1073741830.169676909894983/653723181490351/?type=3&theater

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  30. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 24 March 2017 at 08:32 PM
    Single payer the most efficient health care for all. Cut out the filthy 26 million salaries for the top execs and give reasonable healthcare for all.

    If you think health care is bad now when insurance companies with multi-million dollar CEOs are running the system just wait until the system is fully staffed with government employees……..
    Think the day to day fraud of the VA system coupled with the efficiency of the California DMV.
    But I’m sure it will all work out fine.

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  31. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    As to George at 10:42 – I’ll assume that quote is true (almost all the pols act as though that’s what they believe if they will even address the subject) so we can also assume George’s assessment is spot on.
    Couple that thought with ‘creative’ pols in Sacramento that want to have the state of California dole out free health care to anyone who strolls into the waiting room for anything from aspirin to open heart surgery including illegal aliens and we have the perfect storm of complete lunacy running most of our country.
    And that doesn’t even start to address the structural debt that no one has a clue to even start to deal with.
    We can all chuckle at the extreme preppers, but it’s beginning to look like they are the only sane folks left, even if their timing might be off a bit.

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  32. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Follow up – I had some coffee and read up on the Mnuchin pronouncement on AI not being an issue to worry about re human labor replacement.
    Best I can figure relates to one guy suggesting he’s just lying to try to keep the proles calm.
    Much as the rest do when ducking the question as to how are ever going to meet our future obligations re retirement, Medicare and the natl debt.
    The really amusing thing is all of the ‘former’ admin officials all claiming they know all about the coming mess.
    Oh??!! Really??!! Funny how you didn’t seem to talk about it when you were in some other admin. NOW it’s a problem, since Trump is in office.
    At least Trump is the first POTUS who is trying to not make the situation worse by trying to keep our illegal influx down.
    Ah, me. We get the govt we deserve.

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  33. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    re: BillT @ 5:43
    “I, for one, am glad the bad bill failed today.”
    Me too. Personally, I can’t see any reason why Congress couldn’t cook up small bills that nudge the beast around over time. In a perfectly fair world, you could start with making company health benefits a form of taxable income, but I don’t see that happening.
    I probably disagree with a lot of the readers in that I’m not firmly wedded to a free market solution to healthcare, assuming something else can be shown to work (and there are plenty of petri dishes out there in other countries to see what is successful and what isn’t).
    The fascination with insurance as a prime mover in costs is odd, but my guess is that the people that simplistically shout out about ‘single payer’ don’t really know how health systems work in other countries. It isn’t like Canada, Switzerland, Singapore, and France have the same health setup.
    Heck, it would be nice to simply agree on what ‘healthcare’ actually is. Free aspirin? Free birth control pills? Free doctor visits? Catastrophic coverage only? Dentistry? My guess is that the louder someone is about ‘single payer’, the more they want free everything without kicking out the $5k-$10k / year / adult that it would probably cost on average.
    In any case, no one care what I think, so I’ll leave with a graphic that’s more succinct than saying “he’s still President, Paul”….
    http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/20161126_donald.jpg

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  34. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    There you go again Bill I got your foul mouth sputtering.
    Here’s some Leonard Cohen for you
    I can run no more with this lawless crowd
    While Killers in high places say their prayers out loud
    I’ve summoned up a Thundercloud
    They’re going to hear from me

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  35. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    “I can run no more with this lawless crowd
    While Killers in high places say their prayers out loud”
    Then why be an apologist for the intelligence state?
    I’m afraid that the political Left has morphed into a beast which speaks power to truth.
    As usual, the web provides a good measuring device for attitude
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/deaths-of-despair-white-americans_us_58d3e14de4b0f838c6301604
    https://medium.com/@matthewstoller/on-mocking-dying-working-class-white-people-d0ea653a91a9#.nx00iqs7m

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  36. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Didn’t vote for Obama second time around Scenes. Voted for Gary Johnson.

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  37. Walt Avatar

    I see Paul is now the liar. He said he was done for the weekend last night, yet can’t resist to post this morning. So much for waking to a Paul free zone.

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  38. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Sorry that’s difficult for you Walt.

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  39. fish Avatar
    fish

    The sublime beauty of “Progressivism Ascendant”…..the inability to tell “real news” from “The Onion”!

    Student Discovers Previously Unknown Form of Oppression.


    Does the American liberal college student get a bad shake? Yes, they might be wrong about the vast majority of their positions, but they typically mean well, right?
    I’m not so sure. Take a look at the “Oppression Olympics,” and you’ll see that many view everything through a “me-first,” “I’m a victim,” self-interested lens. For example, now a student is claiming that the Leftist anger itself against President Trump’s travel executive order and his illegal immigration stance is “anti-black.”
    She says that people are talking only about Muslim and Hispanic “victims,” and not black “victims,” and that itself is a new form of racism.

    Yep….gots to gets alls my racism shit befo the Mexicans, Syrians, or Afghans use it up!
    https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/03/24/student-discovers-previously-unknown-form-of-oppression/

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  40. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    thanks for the encouragement George. It’s really a big deal for a group of Nevada County Musicians to perform in Sacramento and draw around 700 people. I am very proud of he musicians and singers-13 in all- I have assembled for this show.

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  41. Walt Avatar

    No Paul, not in the least. It goes to show how good your word is. Apparently,,not vary.
    So what else is questionable that comes out of you? (History shows,, plenty)

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  42. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    If you were a republican congressman you would draw 1200. And no singing except the National Anthem.

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  43. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    PE: “Didn’t vote for Obama second time around Scenes. Voted for Gary Johnson.”
    Some Gary Johnson positions (from http://www.ontheissues.org/Gary_Johnson.htm)
    Man contributes to climate change, but no government fix.
    Abolish Departments of Education and HUD.
    $3,500 voucher for every K-12 student.
    Zero corporate tax would create tens of millions of jobs.
    Lower the tax burden; eliminate corporate tax.
    Each state has right to display Confederate flag.
    Cut federal budget by 43% to bring it into balance.
    No federal funding for stem cell research.
    Banning assault weapons just criminalizes the owners.
    US needs free market approach to health care, not government.
    Catastrophic insurance ok; then free-market for the rest.

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  44. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Thanks Todd for your support of Nevada County musicians.

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  45. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    PE 911
    Walt was just speaking truth to Pauler.
    I realize the musical left have a harder time grokking numbers than some, but just Mediscare has something north of 50 billion in improper payments. You could give a Kosher financial slaughtering to all the rich insurance company execs and it wouldn’t amount to anything more than a roundoff error.
    Here’s a blast from the past, PJO’R in 1993:
    “The Clinton administration is going to decrease government spending by increasing the amount of money we give to the government to spend.
    Health care is too expensive, so the Clinton administration is putting a high-powered corporate lawyer in charge of making it cheaper. (This is what I always do when I want to spend less money — hire a lawyer from Yale.) If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it’s free.”
    https://www.cato.org/publications/speeches/liberty-manifesto
    Paul, do you buy insurance to pay for your guitar strings? Car insurance that pays out for new tires for the car, maybe an oil change, new muffler and catalytic converter, when your chosen mechanic says it’s time?

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  46. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Gregory at 10:07 – wasting your time. Paul won’t answer questions and can’t even explain what he posts. I’ve given up trying to have a rational conversation with lefties like Paul. All you can do is point out how lacking they are with their reason and facts. Reason – yes, I’m being charitable here.

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  47. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Scenes 1003
    If anyone (including Punchy) has a problem understanding the rationales for any of those LIB platform issues, just ask.

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