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Sandbox – 21feb17

21 February 2017

[334 comments and counting in the last sandbox. I think we've had a sea change in the sandbox debates participation. gjr]

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411 responses to “Sandbox – 21feb17”

Don Bessee

21 February 2017

Ahhhhhh, fresh kitty litter, let me get another big sniff before it gets all gummed up with the ol’ poll heads polls. 😉

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fish

21 February 2017

Posted by: Paul Emery | 21 February 2017 at 08:16 AM
Here’s another Milo quote. Are you defending this?
“You’re misunderstanding what pedophilia means. Pedophilia is not a sexual attraction to somebody 13 years old, who is sexually mature. Pedophilia is attraction to children who have not reached puberty. Pedophilia is attraction to people who don’t have functioning sex organs yet who have not gone through puberty.”
I don’t imagine that Scott or anybody else here is Paul but you really oughta complain to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5). It’s their definition.
Pedophilia is termed pedophilic disorder in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), and the manual defines it as a paraphilia involving intense and recurrent sexual urges towards and fantasies about prepubescent children that have either been acted upon or which cause the person with the attraction distress or interpersonal difficulty.[1] The International Classification of Diseases (ICD-10) defines it as a sexual preference for children of prepubertal or early pubertal age.[4],/i>

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Walt

21 February 2017

My nose is a tad stuffy. Is the Doc. supplying us with “Fresh Step”? or the “Arm&Hammer”(the good stuff)?
To save money, our good Doc. can dump the cheap “jonny” cat on the Left side of the litter box. And speaking of things that stink to high heaven,
http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/20/exclusive-house-dem-it-guys-in-security-probe-secretly-took-100k-in-iraqi-money/

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Todd Juvinall

21 February 2017

PaulE supported TerryL long with Pelline and all the democrats on their Central Committee. I did not see anything from them dissing the child porn. Hypocrites.

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Paul Emery

21 February 2017

So you agree with Milo Scott that it’s okay to have sexual attraction to 13 year olds if they’ve gone through puberty

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Todd Juvinall

21 February 2017

PaulE where is your postings on your TerryL outrage? That would go along way to let us know you are not a hypocrite.

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fish

21 February 2017

Nope.

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fish

21 February 2017

Posted by: Paul Emery | 21 February 2017 at 10:12 AM
Worlds most ham fisted and obvious would be prosecuting attorney.
Well done Matlock!

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George Rebane

21 February 2017

fish 1003am – Aaaagh! Mr fish, you can see from your own comment ending that you didn’t properly finish the ‘terminate italics’ syntax. But I’ll fix it, … why am I cursed?

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fish

21 February 2017

Posted by: George Rebane | 21 February 2017 at 10:53 AM
… why am I cursed?
Because you are a genial and tolerant host for the various misfits who frequent here….and awfully forgiving of my stylistic flourishes….with the inevitable HTML screws that accompany them!
“It Looks Like A War Zone”: Trump Vindicated After Violent Riot Erupts In Swedish Suburb
At what point does looking like a “War Zone” meet the threshold for the progressive definition of terrorism?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-21/it-looks-war-zone-trump-vindicated-after-violent-riot-erupts-swedish-suburb

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Bill Tozer

21 February 2017

Walt @ 10:05 am
Looks like nobody is interested in this one. You have posted it twice, moi once.
First, the Iraqi-American kids (age 20ish) are paid 160-161-162k a year for jobs that pay 60k/year as congressial IT support. They had access to all the sensitive foreign Intel on the Intelligence and Foreign Relations Congressional Committes. They got busted for literally stealing computers from the government, not to mention the security risks. It goes on and on……good to see Debbie Wassername’s photo again. 🙂

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Todd Juvinall

21 February 2017

The local Pocohantas and Pelline’s female sock puppet Annie Fannie don’t like your wife.
Judith Lowry says:
February 21, 2017 at 7:49 am
Annie,
I can see that about her mannerisms.
However, if you will recall, the Stepford wives were engineered for physical perfection and beauty, as well as brainlessness.
JAR’s LTE seemed to be written for no other purpose than to wound.
If she is getting blowback, it is well-deserved.
Right now we all need more tolerance and compassion, not so much bitchiness and snark.
Annie Fox says:
February 21, 2017 at 9:13 am
Judith, I agree with your comment regarding beauty so she misses the mark indeed. I’ve tried the compassionate and tolerant route with these folks and only received bitchiness and snark in return. I don’t do the bitch thing but will stand up to it.

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Todd Juvinall

21 February 2017

Looks like PaulE has run for the hills about his support for TerryL. What a hoot!

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Bill Tozer

21 February 2017

Different topic.
Mrs. Trump reciting the Lord’s Prayer before the latest Trump CAMPAIGN event in Florida caused the usual firestorm of the “Seperation of Church and State”. Our nation’s founding was based on the belief of government staying out of religion, based on its Western Civilization background. Such a separation (religious freedom) works in the context of our forefathers Judea/Christian history, British Common Law, and Natural Law.
But what happens when a religion appears on the scene that by its very nature does not believe in the separation of church and state? What are the ramifications? Too many links to begin to list, some exhaustive scholarly works going back to 1974. Here is a more recent overview.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/09/10/muslim-scholar-no-separation-church-state-islam/

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Scott Obermuller

21 February 2017

I knew it. With Paul, it always comes down to him refusing to discuss or reply to the issues I have brought up concerning his statements. Instead, he makes up straw man arguments, and finally: demanding once more that I answer yes or no to a variation of ‘have you stopped beating your wife?’.
There is a gigantic difference between ‘having a sexual attraction’ to under age teens and acting on that attraction in some way.
Paul – this isn’t about whether or not I’m in agreement with what Milo did or didn’t say. My point is that you and apparently millions of others have decided to post date an excuse for your brown shirt attitude towards the civil rights of some one you don’t like. Milo has made it abundantly clear that he is not advocating anything illegal.
I again wonder why folks on the left can actually commit sexual crimes and find it’s all swept under the rug as quick as you please, but Milo must be banished to the wilderness for merely discussing the subject from the perspective of an under age male.

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Walt

21 February 2017

Morn’n Bill. Nope, our high and mighty LIBs ignore their own party’s piss poor record on allowing the enemy to acquire sensitive info right from LIB gov. computers. Hell! they even hire the spies. But a few phone calls they don’t like by those not even IN gov. yet is more important.

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Todd Juvinall

21 February 2017

Look at the results of immigrants in Sweden on a rampage. Hey PaulE, what do you think?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/21/world/europe/stockholm-sweden-riots-trump.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0

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Walt

21 February 2017

Hay Paul!! Found a web site that will make your day.
http://www.hillarybeattrump.org/
You’ll love this poll too, http://www.hillarybeattrump.org/home/2017/2/17/historians-say-clintons-presidency-is-already-in-top-5

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Paul Emery

21 February 2017

Todd
If you think Terry is guilty of anything beyond what he was convicted for what is that? Describe it in detail so his lawyers can have a good look at it.

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Walt

21 February 2017

Paul is pro plea bargaining? I say go to trial on ALL the evidence. Not just cop a plea for the lowest charge possible.

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Todd Juvinall

21 February 2017

Paul Emery, you supported him publicly and he pleaded guilty. Why did you support him?

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Todd Juvinall

21 February 2017

You are in a corner there Paul Emery. Try and get out.

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Paul Emery

21 February 2017

CAn you document me supporting Lamphier publicly Todd? I did not vote for him and had no involvement nor did I contribute to his campaign. Put your cards on the table Todd.

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Walt

21 February 2017

Be careful of what you ask for Paul, someone just might find a post of yours you didn’t count on. Funny how that happens. It wouldn’t be the first time you got bit by your own words. Jus say’n.

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Paul Emery

21 February 2017

Trump down by 17 in Pew Poll. Heading to Bushdom in only a month
Pew approve 39 disapprove 56 – 17
– 17

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Walt

21 February 2017

Give it up Paul, please stop sharing your idea of porn.

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Todd Juvinall

21 February 2017

Oh Pau; you are a plum. You know what you did RE TerryL. And Trump is still President.

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Paul Emery

21 February 2017

What did I do Todd-Put your cards on the table or go home.

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Paul Emery

21 February 2017

Breitbart has dumped Milo
Even Yiannopoulos’ boss, Breitbart editor in chief Alex Marlow, said the comments were “absolutely indefensible” and “appalling.”
Todd, Walt, Scott and Bill are his last supporters

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Bill Tozer

21 February 2017

Gentlemen, please! When Terry was accused, mum became the word. RL Crabb and his commentators, Fatso’s blog, this site, others, all had the unspoken iron clad rule that discussion of the accused is off limits. Mum is the word. Even Brother Ben popped over to say it was all a set-up and a big lie before going silent, and some blamed The Union or LE for spilling the beans. Innocent until proven guilty and all that stuff in addition to the “sensitive topic” is off-limits. Reminiscent of that wackjob councilwoman posting about Sandy Hook never happened, chemtrails are some massive, yet secret plot, to do wholesale mind control of the populous, and cops under orders to got out and shoot some cans—–AfriCANs that is. Ok, AfriCAN-AmetiCANS…those kind of cans they were ordered to go out and do target practice on. Mum is the word, the quicker the better. Fair enough, I don’t make the rules.
If you boys want to actually discuss ped-o-files in terms of our legal system, go at it. You can also discuss historical records, Greek sailor stories, morality, abstinence , Sodom and Gormoaha, various cultures and their ped-o-philistines, or age of consent in North America….whatever floats your boat. For example:
The age of consent in Canada is 16. All U.S. states set their limits between 16 and 18. The age of consent in Mexico is complex. Typically, Mexican states have a “primary” age of consent (which may be as low as 12), and sexual conduct with persons below that age is always illegal.
I accept Milo’s side of the story, knowing how he pushes the envelop in everything he says, except for those rather sobering and thoughtful hour and a half Q&A interactions after his 20 minute stage presentations. But, the bigger picture is Milo is a minor player and can’t vote.
It’s not even close to a huge story like Kim got robbed in Paris. I see it as a one day Access Hollywood news story.
Shame on Paul for making this story bigger than that Idaho Senator playing footsie in the airport john and shame on everybody else trying to win a stupid agrument. This whole topic gives me the creeps. Oh yeah, Don was right. I remember the internal debate within the gay community about NAMBLA and it was a vigorous debate. Very articulate debate between those who saw it as “love and adoration” and those who were not pleased with any association with NAMBLA. Personally, the topic makes me want to vomit.
Yo Gay Community, you lie down with dogs, you are going to get fleas. I lied down with Milo and I got some fleas. No big deal, I am a Deplorable.
Look at this way. This sudden piling on is not any different than when some true KKK type out there says he likes Trump and suddenly we are all painted with the broadbrush. They hate us Deplorables more than they hate Trump!! And Milo and I like to give them good reason. Let’s go shoot some cans!, but I digress. No, we have to defend or condemn, and ne’er the twain shall meet.
It’s all about who gets the last word in over a stupid agrument. Have at it. Count me in as sticking with Milo….and Trump….and the Deplorables.
Speaking of getting the last word in, I noticed a whole basket full of crickets when I recently posted the link of David Duke supporting the Black Nationalist congressman who is most likely to become the next DNC Chairperson. David Duke says Keith Achman E “gets it”….you know, how the Klan and Muslims and Libs really feel about the Jews….but we have a news blackout on that, lol.

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Paul Emery

21 February 2017

Todd
Cards on the table Todd please or go home.
Gregory
Crickets to my 7:49?

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Bill Tozer

21 February 2017

Yep, I still support Milo. Got dumped by Breihart? Well, he’s a kid and will learn from this one big time. Like good art, it makes the viewer uncomfortable. He still has some great perspectives on PC, where the new feminist movement has abandoned feminism, the role of masculinity in society, and genuine old fashioned debate. Everything that makes Social Justice Warriors cringe. And Milo is not Alt-Right, no matter how many thousands of times the media calls him Alt-Right when introducing him to the reader.
With that said, i guess he said the “indefensible” according to Paul’s 12:40 pm. I will take Breitharts word for it cause the story does not interest me enough to read one story on the topic. But, that is just me.
Interestingly enough, Milo got hired by Breithard originally to cover the tech scene. I will never forget his quote “The PC culture on today’s campuses created me. Without them, I could not exist.” Yep, nature abhors a vacumn. For every action, there is an equal forceful reaction. Looks like I am stuck reading Terry’s writings to The Union as he takes the long road of rehabilitation in the public’ eye.

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Bill Tozer

21 February 2017

You Todd, now the control freak is setting the rules and telling you what to do, when to do it, and how to do it. Must be a Green Liberation thang.
“Paul Emery
Todd
Cards on the table Todd please or go home.
Posted by: Paul Emery | 21 February 2017 at 01:06 PM”
Proof is in the pudding. You better chop chop Todd or get outta here, knucklehead. 🙂

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Bill Tozer

21 February 2017

Todd, he’s waiting, he’s waiting. Hey, that sounds a lot like Fatso. “I’m waiting!” Heeheeheeheeteetee.

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Walt

21 February 2017

The best one yet is Paul bitching about crickets. Yet he’s the resident cricket farmer.

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Todd Juvinall

21 February 2017

BillT, LOL! Paul Emer come on man, fess up. When TerryL was being exposed you provided support so we all know and remember that. There you are.
Milo, other than his mispeak, I think he’s great. It does not negate the rest of the things he said just as you are still here after your support for TerryL.

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Paul Emery

21 February 2017

What “support” did I provide Walt. Cards on the table.

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Bill Tozer

21 February 2017

Aha! Ban racists targets.
http://unclesamsmisguidedchildren.com/end-black-targets-campaign-liberal-idiots/
Reality sucks off campus:
https://overpassesforamerica.com/?p=40923

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Don Bessee

21 February 2017

King high, straight, flush PE, what ya got? 😉

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Walt

21 February 2017

It’s your version of taking the “5TH” Paul, that’s the issue. You just don’t have the stones to say one way OR the other. If you didn’t then why the hell not SAY SO!!???
Those that play in the middle of the road, tend to get run over. Then don’t bitch when many throw it in reverse to finish the job.
It’s best to admit when wrong.(it takes the ammo away) Or flat out state you weren’t playing water boy. The choice is yours.
Now…. answer up, or get a fresh coat of center line striping for the next batch of traffic.

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Paul Emery

21 February 2017

No Walt. I don’t recall ever taking a position on the Terry L legal situation. I also did not assist his campaign in any way. That is not taking the 5th it’s telling the truth. I’m asking you to prove otherwise. Cards please Walt. Todd has gone home.

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Walt

21 February 2017

Now was that so damned hard? Remember that next time you want to play “dodge the question”.

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Bill Tozer

21 February 2017

Well, gotta say my goodbyes. Bye Milo. Oh, glad you resigned. Better than being fired. “It’s ok to be scared and not knowing what to do next.”
“The majority of Western culture came out of Europe, which is not comparable to America. It came out of nation states based on geographical and ethnic foundations. America is based on principles, a very different kind of country.”
“I hope to offend every reader”
Milo Yiannopoulos
http://www.azquotes.com/author/95423-Milo_Yiannopoulos

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Paul Emery

21 February 2017

I already responded with the same words to Todd the missing one.

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Todd Juvinall

21 February 2017

Sorry to say I don’t believe you Paul Emery. I recall you supported TeryL and that is that.

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ScenesFromTheApocalypse

21 February 2017

re: BillT @ 2:22PM
http://www.marcomm.news/gen-z-is-the-most-conservative-generation-since-those-born-before-1945/
Maybe this whole anti-Western culture, Trumphate movement is the last hurrah of balding men with ponytails. It’s hard to say.
A longish article on Sweden and similar situations elsewhere. Not bad.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/02/10/the-death-of-the-most-generous-nation-on-earth-sweden-syria-refugee-europe/
“A kind of hydraulic catastrophe” A good way to model the problem. On one side you have overpopulated and poor countries, on the other you have stable, rich countries with social welfare programs. Lacking barriers, the result is obvious even before you add the frosting of culture clash.

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Paul Emery

21 February 2017

Talk is cheap Todd. Do you have anything else to say about that before we move on?

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ScenesFromTheApocalypse

21 February 2017

A good example of the Great Divide.
https://i.redd.it/hi1r76smi9hy.png

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Don Bessee

21 February 2017

How refreshing, DHS is now going to enforce the immigration laws on the book as they are written. What a concept! Follow the law, deport the criminals and no welfare etc. for illegals.
Go back to the guest worker model for the agricultural industry. Put our kids needs to the front of the benefit line and save $$$$. One analysis showed that if the wall were to only stop 9% of illegal it would pay for itself by not spending so much on illegals.
Tough enforcement and not illegally giving away our kids money will add up fast. 😉

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Bill Tozer

21 February 2017

Scenes on Gen Z.
Yep, it has occurred to me that has been going on in Europe for awhile. I have gone to some of their sites and it’s too crazy for me. But, they do ridicule liberalism in very disrespectful terms….a couple parts they like, most parts they reject. It’s their world.
Ye ole stick it to the man by the younger generation since time immortal. No respect given and now they are the ones saying “Don’t trust anyone over thirty. Oh, Grandpa is cool, it’s my parents that are nuts”, lol. And their parents’ off the deep end beliefs.
Years ago I read one of those one frame cartoons in The New Yorker or someplace. Had to be 30 or more years ago. It showed a middle aged hippy couple complete with the Flower Power garb and accessories. They were distraught watching their young son walking by wearing a white shirt, tie, business suit and carrying a briefcase. The caption read, “Where did we go wrong?”
Now, gotta feel sorry for Claire in 2018. She broke for Obama in ’08 and got on the HRC enemies list. Hillary kept a list of every single Dem who choose O over The First Woman President. She confronted them one by one after she bonked her head and left State. She cornered Claire in an elevator according to Claire in an interview. Awkward. Later they made nice and got Claire’s much needed female backing for 2016.
Now Claire is feeling the residue of being too close to my gal. Dems annoit their candidates? Interesting POV.
http://observer.com/2017/02/senator-claire-mccaskill-establishment-democrat-primaries/?ref=yfp

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