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[I was perusing RR's hoary past to note the constant torrent of comments predicting the assured and imminent demise of the Republican Party for this or that outrage according to our tireless local progressives.  I also note that no one from the Right has been foolish enough to predict the Democrats' demise for doing some really dumb things over the last decade of these pages.  So does that mean that there is no learning taking place on the Left (my favorite hypothesis), or do these adamant worthies subscribe to and unabashedly place their hope on the unfortunate truth that it is possible to fool most of the people most of the time? (This is my own observation over the decades that completes the standard shibboleth 'You can fool some people all the time, and all people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.'  Well, you don't have to; fooling most people most of the time works out quite well as confirmed by most astute observers.)  gjr]

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277 responses to “Sandbox – 28jan17”

  1. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Times and circumstances change PE, what was ok in 1962 is irrelevant in 2017. We are still at WAR. Immigration policies have changed drastically over the last century. This is now and policies have to recognize the objective realities of the situation we are in. We did not start this war, remember? ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  2. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 30 January 2017 at 10:42 AM
    I love the fact that this is one of the areas that you simply will not discuss. That the middle east is being imported to be the next reliable democrat voting bloc.
    You communicate as much by not answering as you do by taking the time to answer. There is also the added benefit that you are inadvertently more honest about your when you don’t respond.

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  3. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Carter banned all Iranian nationals entry to the US, including suspending the visas for 50,000 Iranians already here and forced thousands of Iranian students attending our our colleges out and sent them home.
    Yep, I remember all those good people at every train station across Europe standing with welcome signs and gifts to the new arrivals in Europe. Welcome refugees. Now Sweden is the rape capital of Europe. Refugees or economic immigrants? Heck, even hundreds of those kind welcoming big hearted social workers got raped or assualted over time.
    Assimilation is the key. I don’t recall Peruvian or Scottish or Polish immigrants shooting up a holiday work party, blowing up peaceful runners and onlookers of a marathon race, or driving a car into students at Ohio State Univeristy. Anybody remember 9/11?
    A improved vetting process won’t solve everything, but is reasonable and needed.. The important thing to remember as a nation of laws is that no foreign national has any right to come to the USA because they want to. 50,000 new refugees that Trump wants in is the same 8 year average of Obama. But, we won’t talk about Obama. The world began today.
    Rather than waste time and ink, I will post a link.
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1017624008371636/?type=3&theater

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  4. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Speaking of The World Began Today, I found this little article about how quickly they long for the good old days of 3 months ago. This is not for Paul, since he has positioned himself so he has to defend nothing, but gets to attack everything. PE gets to have all the fun. Yes, PE, we know you did not vote for Obama in 2012, so you are off the hook.
    There is no history, the world began today. American values are at stake! The Left gets to decide what the American Values are and which of the American Values are at stake….which I find offensive.
    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/444171/womens-march-washington-trump-inauguration-melissa-harris-perry-race

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  5. BradC Avatar
    BradC

    @GeorgeR – can you provide some additional background on Scott Adams? I am not familiar with the name. Is he a cartoonist?

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  6. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Stupid polls. 33% support Trumps temp ban. That is a no brainer. We all knew it was the usual screaming marginalized up to their exploding head thang again.
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/immigration/january_2017/most_support_temporary_ban_on_newcomers_from_terrorist_havens
    More stupid polls.
    “That is why the country elected Donald Trump. His priorities are clear: putting Americans back to work and defeating radical Islamic terrorism.”
    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/01/30/forget-hysterical-mainstream-media-america-likes-trump-s-agenda-including-his-immigration-pivot.html

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  7. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Opps again. 33% do not support the temp ban. 57 support, 10% undecided, 33% opposed. Nevermind.

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  8. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    BT- ? The linked poll showed 57% favor new immigration order? I noted the poll on the right where only 36% felt safer after 8 years of team 0. I think the country instinctively recognizes the simple issues here. President Trump is actually doing his job and that is a body blow to the 1% media elites. OMG! ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  9. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Don, yeah, I am preoccupied with more urgent things than a temporary pause on immigration from 7 out of the other 194 countries on Earth. 195 if you count Taiwan, which operates as a country but is technically not a country. :).

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  10. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    BradC 11:57AM.
    Dilbert.
    He also is about the best of the Trump predictors. Has a blog, twitter feed, morning coffee time talk on twitter.

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  11. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    I agree that this is likely to be the next outbreak of hostilities. The reason for the heavy backing of HRC by tech executives is going to get a lot more obvious.
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-30/why-cold-war-between-tech-ceos-and-trump-about-go-nuclear

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  12. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Don
    Glad to hear you’re paying attention to the polls. Gallop today shows Trump sinking in the swamp. Worst approval ratings in history for a new elect. Gurrently -7. Obama was +30. Not much room to fall tor the Trumper.

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  13. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    If a national sample is showing 57% support the new immigration policies then it would be reasonable to conclude that the Trump states would be even happier. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  14. George Rebane Avatar

    I am somewhat amazed that some longtime RR readers are still unfamiliar with the wide variance in America’s immigration policies over the years. For example, the Rebanes went through a vetting process (as described herein) that was on steroids compared to today’s “extreme vetting”. And other well read commenters’ citations should also be reviewed. We have NOT “always welcomed immigrants and refugees”, and in any case, this has nothing to do with American values among which Value #1 is not getting ourselves killed in our homeland by some crazed raghead.
    BradC 1157am – Scott Adams draws Dilbert and is one of the most famous living American cartoonists.

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  15. Walt Avatar

    Looks like Paul is pulling his “polls” from some dark place South of where the Sun shines, and taken by the same idiots that said Trump would never win.
    The ONE good thing the people Paul admires are good at is bitching.
    So tell us Paul, you will do your best to stop a mine from opening, will you put the same effort into a Muslim minaret built in the middle of town, and have the Muslim call to prayer blasted so nowhere within the city limits can miss it?

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  16. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Poor PE, you are forgetting that President Trump was elected with a negative personal #, so what? Doing what he said he was going to do earns golden political capitol, and we know he likes gold. Its all about the midterms and snatching Senate seats in Trump states. You see madness, I see method, they are steam rolling team pc. So much so fast you can’t catch your breath between clutching pearls. So what will the Schumer machine focus on tomorrow, immigration or Supreme Court pick? Here, look at this shiny object while is sign this new order. Team pc is flummoxed. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  17. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Paul, name a President who was elected despite the press united against them, vowing the rules of journalism should be suspended to sink their candidacy?
    I can think of one.
    Anyone see Chuck Todd told off by Priebus yesterday? It worked, for a short time Todd did shut up and listen to the answers of his questions rather than continuing to argue.
    Let me say I’m not a fan of Riebus but if voodoo practioners could being Tim Russert back from the dead in exchange of the soul (if any) of Chuck Todd, I’d be happy to watch the show… maybe rename Meet the Press as “The Talking Dead”.

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  18. Walt Avatar

    Paul. Where was your outrage when “O” stabbed Cubans in the back? How soon you forget those “refugees”. Only a token gripe from LIBS. OR the press.

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  19. BradC Avatar
    BradC

    @GeorgeR – Thanks, I assumed you were referring to Dilbert creator Adams but did not find the quote, “Muslim countries ban fellow Muslims”, online.
    I am not a big comics fan – However, I do read the ‘toons’ provided by our most famous local cartoonist, RLCrabb.

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  20. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Rasmussen has Trump at a plus 6. And who cares anyway except PE?

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  21. BradC Avatar
    BradC

    The closest thing I could find to the ‘Dilbert quote’ is this, “We probably ought to ask why the US taxpayer is expected to support the Syrian refugees, while their wealthy Muslim neighbors feel no apparent obligation whatsoever” – Tawfik Hamid

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  22. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    Speaking of American values what to you propose Trump should do about protecting us from crazy people with guns. A good percentage of what we call terrorist incidents in our country are the result of such crazies who should never have access to guns.

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  23. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Only journalists should be disarmed and then sent to the mean streets of any large city. Education instantly provided.

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  24. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Good Grief trump has such thin skin. Another boxing analogy is fighters with thin skin cut easily and blood gets in their eyes blurring their vision. They never last long usually losing on a TKO in the middle rounds.
    “President Donald Trump lashed out Sunday at Republican Sens. John McCain and Lindsey Graham for publicly second-guessing his executive order on refugees, calling them “weak on immigration” and “looking to start World War III.”
    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trump-mccain-graham-234342

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  25. Walt Avatar

    RINOs Paul,, RINOs.. The days of business as usual, and doing nothing is over.

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  26. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    McCain and Graham are nevertrumpers and long ago turned into the Muppets 2 grumpy old men in the balcony. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  27. Walt Avatar

    Bell ringer Don,, Line of the day!

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  28. Walt Avatar

    One thing is for sure, Paul is back to his old self of not answering anything.

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  29. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Paul forgets….er….conviently fails to mention that Obama was popular, yet his policies were unpopular. Hard to find an Obama policy that garnered above 47% approval rating.
    Conversely, Trumps ratings are in the toilet, yet his policies have good approval numbers. That tells me anyone who ran on Trump’s policies would be sitting in the Oval Office today. Only Trump ran on the policies that Americans approved off. Obama, albeit popular, clearly articulated that his policies were on the ballot in 2016. Stay the course, if you will
    That also tells me it is Trump’s policies the Left must defeat, not Trump. Geeze Paul, Obama wins the popularity contest and loses the substantive issues contest. Your polls are correct. The ballot box was also correct. I will take substance over personality and you can have every single personality over substance contest all day long.
    To win in 2018 or 2020, PE must defeat Trump’s policies. It’s the high approval numbers of Trump’s issues and policies that is blocking the pass, not a mere man.

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  30. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 136pm – Trump should have the feds enforce existing gun laws which prohibit crazy people having guns (or driving cars or … or even voting). But that doesn’t prevent looney liberals wanting more gun laws that only affect the sane law-abiders.

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  31. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    What questions would you like me to answer Walt. Give me 3.
    What is your idea about how Trump can protect us from crazy people with guns. He has an answer for everything so I’m curious.

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  32. Walt Avatar

    OK Paul,, or ANY Lefty for that matter, what is your bitch about THIS Exec. order?
    http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/30/trump-signs-executive-order-slashing-regulations-biggest-our-country-has-ever-seen/
    Read it in it’s entirety. Im sure crickets are to follow.

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  33. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    You raise an interesting point Bill. Obama was not a very good President but people liked him. Trump is totally unlikable but has emerged as the populist choice which usually is the champion after years of weak and ineffective leadership. Trump will fall because of his weirdness and personality . More about that later.

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  34. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Trump will fall because of his weirdness and personality . More about that later.
    -Paul E
    Paul, you’ve been batting .000 for as long as Trump has been in the national conversation. Every prediction of yours has been wrong.

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  35. fish Avatar
    fish

    ….and as expected nothing but crickets from the electorate stacking democrat Paul Emery.
    I’ll take this as acknowledgement of your actual political orientation.

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  36. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Hard to beat Ideas with high approval numbers which include the core values of jobs and security. Climate Change and Globalism are down on the priority list. Keeping it real and keeping it simple.
    So, back to the 2nd Amendment, eh? Another issue that the Left embraces while bleeding votes….outside of the Blue Wall of resistance.

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  37. Walt Avatar

    I already did Paul. It’s not my fault you refuse to read(or just ignore) the posts.

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  38. Walt Avatar

    So which city transplant thought (or ECO idiot) believed this to be a crime, and worthy of calling the cops?
    5:37 p.m. โ€” A caller at La Barr Meadows Road reported a man with short black hair wearing a black jacket and black hat sitting next to the roadway panning for gold in a drainage ditch.

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  39. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    Walt 01/29 8:25 PM
    “Looks like Muslim on Muslim terror.(just like in the Muslim nations.)
    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/29/mosque-attack-quebec-several-dead/
    So will our LIBS blame this on Trump?
    Now to wait and see if the shooters came as refugees. If they are, Trump is more than justified.”
    Sorry Walt, the shooter was a nationalist white supremist.

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  40. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: jon smith | 30 January 2017 at 03:59 PM
    Sorry Walt, the shooter was a nationalist white supremacist.

    Whew…..after Pulse Nightclub, the Riverside shooting, multiple truck murders in Europe, the rapes in Germany and Sweden, all the fake hate crimes…..you finally caught a white guy …..and a Canadian at that!
    Whew!
    So Mr. “Mark the Tape” how you liking the guy that the American people would never, ever, ever elect?

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  41. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Those attackers must have never touched a gun before. Only five dead. 50 people kneeling down in prayer and only 5 killed and the others with not even a serious injury? WTF? What were they shooting at, the ceiling? They are an embarrassment to society. And they reloaded 2-3 times! Unbelievable. Amateurs. Strike that. They give amateurs a bad name. I can’t believe my eyes. Was the shooter blind or something? Sounds more like a cry for help if you ask me. Geeze.

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  42. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse
  43. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Brad @ 5:19 pm
    Oh boy. I like those movies about subterranean people. They kinda look like zombies. Walt’s days are numbered, but he knows that. A super duper hole digging machine. Cool. Hope it works out better than Seatlle’s Big Bertha. She kept getting stuck. Heard Nevada City had a bunch of big holes walking around the streets at night as well. ๐Ÿ™‚

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  44. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    OH the magnificent bravery of Sally Yates, 0’s appointee who is temporarily holding down the fort at Justice. She rants that she wont defend the immigration EO. That’s making a stand girl, oh wait, today is January 30th. Senator Sessions Senate confirmation vote was delayed a week to January 31st. That’s tomorrow! Sally sure shows she has 12 hours of spine in her before she sallies forth into the civilian employment market. I know of 7 countries who are hiring lobbyists. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  45. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    Fish 1/30 4:06
    Fish, you are one stupid guppy. Walked into this leading with your chin. “Whew…..after Pulse Nightclub, the Riverside shooting, multiple truck murders in Europe, the rapes in Germany and Sweden, all the fake hate crimes…..you finally caught a white guy ”
    Ted Kazinsky, Columbine, Timothy McVeigh, Sandy Hook, Aurora, and on and on and on.

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  46. Walt Avatar

    Your right Bill, my shovel now hangs over the fireplace like the trusty rifle.
    It’s a wall hanger. I decided to move up the ladder a rung or two. (upper management)
    Now I get to be the one driving the supervisor’s truck barking orders and bitch.
    Capt. Ahab in a reflective vest.
    Now if the new mine owners get wind of this guy, Paul and his followers who do their best NOT to work will have a new tool to gripe about. Here is some test ammo Paul. The new digger will cause Grass Valley to subside into the ground. Only the top floor of the Brett Heart ol’ geezer inn will be above ground.

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  47. Walt Avatar

    Speaking of Paul,, where did he go? He yaps about not finding my questions, then disappears
    back into the shadows of N.C. Posting from the Mineshaft saloon?

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  48. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    PE tag teamed with the ‘jon’ Walt, or he had to use the ‘jon’. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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