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[I was perusing RR's hoary past to note the constant torrent of comments predicting the assured and imminent demise of the Republican Party for this or that outrage according to our tireless local progressives.  I also note that no one from the Right has been foolish enough to predict the Democrats' demise for doing some really dumb things over the last decade of these pages.  So does that mean that there is no learning taking place on the Left (my favorite hypothesis), or do these adamant worthies subscribe to and unabashedly place their hope on the unfortunate truth that it is possible to fool most of the people most of the time? (This is my own observation over the decades that completes the standard shibboleth 'You can fool some people all the time, and all people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.'  Well, you don't have to; fooling most people most of the time works out quite well as confirmed by most astute observers.)  gjr]

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277 responses to “Sandbox – 28jan17”

  1. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The opposition media has devolved into a dark comedy with the hysterical hyperbole and endless funny bits that were not intended to be funny. A pack of irrelevant paid snowflakes is all they are now. 😉

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  2. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    That’s an opinion piece, not the network. You know what they say about opinions PE……. 😉

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  3. Walt Avatar

    Look back in history Paul. It’s not the first time immigration has been suspended.
    Even your hero “O” did it. And MUSLIMS even… Now you bitch?

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  4. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery, FOX proves its claims of “fair and balanced” by publishing the gal whose parents are from Egypt. Her opinion, nothing more.

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  5. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Oksy Here’s nore mainstream Fox news. Here’s from Fox News:
    Rudy admits Trump sought a Muslim ban when Trump came to him for advise.
    “I’ll tell you the whole history of it: When he first announced it, he said ‘Muslim ban,’” Giuliani said on Fox News.
    “He called me up, he said, ‘Put a commission together, show me the right way to do it legally.’”
    You can fish through You Tube to verify this.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=l9GKL6i38pI

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  6. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    When he first announced it was Dec. 2015, remember that workplace violence in San Berdo? In June of 2016 on 60 minutes it became extreme vetting. Its nearly Feb 2017. As a journalist it would seem necessary for you to give the proper context would it not PE?

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  7. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    This was this week Don

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  8. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Just wait for weeks 2 and 3. The snowflakes are coming! I hope the snowflakes can handle a little hot water enema. Melts your troubles away.

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  9. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Holy Mackerel. Now Trump is selling arms to the Contras! Stop him, oh please, somebody do something. AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhh, stop the madness.
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1017107678423269/?type=3&theater

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  10. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery we all knew he wanted that so nothing to see there. He moderated hi postion as do most when they get all the facts.

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  11. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The interview with Giuliani was this weekend, when he (Trump) first announced it was in 2015. Bad druid, bad. 😉

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  12. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    What difference does it make? Trumps intentions were to ban ALL Muslim. Now he’s changed his story. Another Trump lie.

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  13. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery 357
    Did you watch and listen to the YouTub you linked to? Rudy makes perfect sense of it all and tells us what happened and its justification. Trump modified after the Rudy committee came to him with the advice. My goodness you are truly desperate.

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  14. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    PaulE 459 So he changed his mind and now it supports your position and you are still against it. You need help.

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  15. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    “What difference does it make? Trumps intentions were to ban ALL Muslim. Now he’s changed his story. Another Trump lie.”
    So far as I can tell, what he’s doing is rather clever. He is using existing law and positions by members of the opposing party (the choice of which countries to restrict is one example), but then bringing in the novel idea of actual enforcement. You end up with a day or two of news cycle yelling to the high heavens followed by a week’s worth of showing how Obama (or some Democratic Senator) already voted for such a thing in the past.
    In any case, a simple solution by Scott Adams:
    http://blog.dilbert.com/post/156544714786/the-canadian-option

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  16. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    0 banned immigrants for 6 months, had an immigrant registration program and ignored the laws on the books and imported teenage central American gang bangers as if they were child refugees. Saint 0 say you guys in the media.
    Trump is elected to build the wall and institute extreme vetting, wins. Orders the wall built. Uses 0’s own list of failed terror states full of jhihadis to stop immigration pending stronger vetting procedures for 90 days and you guys in the media have a cow.
    Do you see why the people of the United States hate reporters my friend? 😉

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  17. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Actually Trump is in fact enforcing the Obama positions in writing. You cannot make this stuff up.

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  18. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Paul 459
    ” Trumps intentions were to ban ALL Muslim (sic)”
    I call BS. Quote?

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  19. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    See my 425 Gregory.

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  20. Dieter Schultz Avatar
    Dieter Schultz

    It seems to me that this ban thing is all wrong. What if the US had banned all Germans after WWII? Then we would have no George. Of course we took them in especially Nazis like Werner Van Braun and others to help us build missles so we could take over where they left off. Banning Muslims will surely hurt the expansion of the convenience store industry. Something Trump and his advisors probably haven’t considered. And I thought he was going to create jobs. One news outlet is reporting that Trump is already building furnaces in southern Utah. Just to add a little spite, it is rumored that they will smoke hams and bacon there until needed for the Muslims.

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  21. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The opposition media cant help themselves, they really can’t. Yahoo news is demanding to know where are the tax cuts!? Despite ending the obmanation with 18 executive orders and without a cabinet, 1 week in they whine both ways. Too much too fast they cry, where are the tax cuts they cry. A moyal with Parkinson’s is more trusted than the media. 😉

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  22. Walt Avatar

    “Banning Muslims will surely hurt the expansion of the convenience store industry”.
    Now that’s a great one. Nice job.

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  23. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Thisa is really amazing to me. The left and these Judges have not read the Constitution I guess.

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  24. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Sounds like sergeant Schultz still knows nothing. 😉

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  25. George Rebane Avatar

    Scott Adams asks the seminal question – why do Muslim countries ban fellow Muslims? Surely they are not Islamophobes like our lefties call all of us here who don’t want unvetted Muslims in the US. But that is a question which none of the west’s progressives, starting with Merkel, want to touch with a ten foot pole. If they attempt to answer, it only makes them look more silly than they already are. And the real answer is really easy.

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  26. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Excuse me. Are there not 40 predominantly Muslim countries in the world? Did not Obama over his 8 years average 50,000 Muslims brought into the USA per year…..the same number Trump wants to bring in?
    Paul told me Trump would NEVER win the election. Paul lied. End of story.

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  27. Walt Avatar

    Gotta love history. But LIBS have short memories of their own. It’s OK when THEY are the ones shuting out refugees.
    http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/29/flashback-when-liberal-democrats-opposed-refugees-and-even-orphans/
    Here is a small list of the opposers. Recognise any names?
    They even opposed orphans.
    The group, led by California’s Gov. Jerry Brown, included such liberal luminaries as Delaware’s Democratic Sen. Joe Biden, former presidential “peace candidate” George McGovern, and New York Congresswoman Elizabeth Holtzman.
    Now they have some come to Jesus moment? Back then it was Nixon trying to bring them in.

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  28. Walt Avatar

    Looks like Muslim on Muslim terror.(just like in the Muslim nations.)
    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/29/mosque-attack-quebec-several-dead/
    So will our LIBS blame this on Trump?
    Now to wait and see if the shooters came as refugees. If they are, Trump is more than justified.

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  29. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Darn, I thought today was Super Bowl Sunday. Another slow news day, nothing worth reading and nothing on line. It’s like a ghost town out there or something. This is like waiting for Biden’s Recovery Spring Tour. I need some No-Doz.
    Well, I guess I can start planning my vacation on a dead news night. Boring.
    https://www.facebook.com/UncleSamsMisguidedChildren.Net/photos/a.169953786533962.1073741830.169676909894983/624479857748017/?type=3&theater

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  30. Walt Avatar

    That right Bill, Just like Penn Valley. The streets get rolled up on Sundays. Dead as hell.

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  31. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Walt, have you been collecting Snowflake tears? They are great for pressuring washing the mud off the truck. Always a silver lining.

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  32. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    “When they hate, we educate”—-Diamonds and Silk.

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  33. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    I always wondered why the Arab countries are on Israel to give the Palestinians land from their little piece when the Arabs have millions of square miles of their own. Hell Egyot could give them the Sinai. But I guess those Arab countries are Islamaphobes and anti Muslim.

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  34. Walt Avatar

    Well well… The truth comes out. Money is more important. (when you get yourself balls deep in debt)
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/29/new-york-politician-switched-parties-because-needed-pay-raise.html

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  35. BradC Avatar
    BradC

    Hey, what do you know, someone actually wrote a decent explanation and comparison between the Ego-in-Chief’s Muslim Ban and the Half/Black Section-8 former president’s immigration vetting programs,
    http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/01/30/sorry-mr-president-the-obama-administration-did-nothing-similar-to-your-immigration-ban/

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  36. Eric Winger Avatar
    Eric Winger

    So what do you all think about trump ignoring the court orders to halt the bans? Should he be able to ignore the courts?

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  37. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Well maybe he should hire a lawyer and litigate it. Afterall, he is the Executive branch. Also, could you supply a link to your point? Thanks.

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  38. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Wonder what the Looney Toons will protest next? They will protest something everyday. Simple and well funded plan. Create chaos, holler and scream like it’s the end of the world, then blame Trump for the chaos. Very amusing and quite comical. Wait til tomorrow night and all hell will break loose. I hope they don’t try to block access to the Super Bowl. That will gain them as much sympathy as a hemorrhoid
    Admidst the adolescent clamoring for the keys to Daddy’s car, the liberals can always be counted on to overreach and look like sickos in a circle jerk. Last time they got this upset they gave us Camp Casey, then left the place sprewn with trash as soon as the press got bored and packed up their cameras. Then they demonized Cindy Sheehan and threw her on the garbage heap when Ms. Sheehan said she would run against Babs Boxer, ROFLMAO.
    The time before that the resistance gave us Air America. Oh, let the children play make believe Dress Up and then play House. They can even stumble about in Daddy’s shoes.
    Well, a new administration is bound to inconvience a couple dozen people. Nothing to see here but planned chaos. A real yawner.
    https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/01/30/trump-heartland-voters-shrug-off-global-uproar-over-immigration-ban/21703048/

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  39. George Rebane Avatar

    Everyone note the crickets on my 746pm?

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  40. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George asks :why do Muslim countries ban fellow Muslims?
    Your question has no value in this conversation. What we are talking about are American values not those of foreign countries. I don’t understand what the point of your statement is.

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  41. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery my goodness you are dense. The Muslim countries are outraged that we are enforcing the same rules they do. Get it? Your statement is ridiculous. Why should we listen to them, they won’t even let the Palestinians become citizens for goodness sakes.

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  42. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Paul, I am quite sure if any terrorist comes in the first 100 days of the Trump presidency, you’d be on him for not doing his job. His people will be reviewing the vetting procedures left over from the Obama years… I think choosing for this moratorium only countries tagged as terrorist hotbeds by the Obama administration is a model of bipartisanship.

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  43. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 30 January 2017 at 10:19 AM
    What American interests are served by importing a mass of questionably educated middle easterners who have little in common with the west or American values. Who have openly stated that their preferred method of gaining power is merely to show up, go on the dole, and breed?
    Oh right….democrat lever pullers……my bad!
    ….and to Georges question…“I, against my brothers. I and my brothers against my cousins. I and my brothers and my cousins against the world”.
    Muslim countries know their own kind better than the soft headed veal calves that constitute the American progressive movement!

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  44. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Well of course you don’t PE, you read but fail to comprehend. Dr. R’s point emphasizes a nations sovereign right to absolute control over its boarder. No matter what the guilt tripping team lefty wants to throw. There is no ‘right’ to immigration. You speak of American values but all your talking about is wanting to impose your values on the government who’s primary job is the safety and interests of its citizens. The administration that won determines what the rules are. You lost, we all won. It will be a short 8-16 years PE. 😉

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  45. fish Avatar
    fish

    Lily Tomlin Likens Donald Trump’s Tactics to Those of Nazis

    WOW!
    …..lily tomlin is still alive?
    Who knew?
    http://variety.com/2017/tv/awards/lily-tomlin-donald-trump-nazis-nazi-germany-1201972871/

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  46. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    I’ve the impression all of the seven countries refuse entry to anyone who has visited the state of Israel… How about we have “extreme vetting” for anyone coming from states that bar entry by anyone with an Israel visa in their passport?

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  47. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Gregory
    So what. We are talking about American values. We have always welcomed immigrants and refuges.

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  48. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery, we have not always welcomed immigrants. From 1924 to 1965 American has put the skids to most immigration so those people could be assimilated. And whose values are you talking about? American values to protect our borders? Or your where any terrorist can come on in? Maybe you need to rethink.

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