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[I was perusing RR's hoary past to note the constant torrent of comments predicting the assured and imminent demise of the Republican Party for this or that outrage according to our tireless local progressives.  I also note that no one from the Right has been foolish enough to predict the Democrats' demise for doing some really dumb things over the last decade of these pages.  So does that mean that there is no learning taking place on the Left (my favorite hypothesis), or do these adamant worthies subscribe to and unabashedly place their hope on the unfortunate truth that it is possible to fool most of the people most of the time? (This is my own observation over the decades that completes the standard shibboleth 'You can fool some people all the time, and all people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.'  Well, you don't have to; fooling most people most of the time works out quite well as confirmed by most astute observers.)  gjr]

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  1. stevenfrisch Avatar
    stevenfrisch

    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 29 January 2017 at 09:10 AM
    That would be the Equal Protection clause Mr. Juvinall as decided in numerous SCOTUS cases.

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  2. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    I see the Dark Lord of Liberal Lament Land still has no sense of humor. 😉

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  3. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Sorry Frisch I am all about the the Constitution and it is nowhere to be found in the document. It is their interpretation. No enumerated right in there.

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  4. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    It is my hope the SCOTUS regains its mind and stops forcing their Commerce Clause crapola on the States.

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  5. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Don
    Don’t worry I’ll give you a daily (almost) review on the fall of Donald Trump. The rise already happened. To have poll numbers this low at the beginning of a Presidency is unprecedented. You can ignore it but you’d better believe the Republicans up for re-election in a short two years will watch it like a hawk.

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  6. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    You mean like what happened to the democrat party under the high poll numbers of Obama in 2010 and 12 and 14 and 16? OK, got it.

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  7. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Well, finally this Executive Order thing is waking up our sleeping leftist brethren from the dark shadows of their seedy alleyways. Guess they were sleep walking the last four years or something. It’s like, “Hey, he cannot do that!” Or can he? Holy Guacamole, stop him, somebody stop him! I have a Super Bowl Party to get ready for. And World Fest is coming. Somebody stop him!”
    Interesting times.
    https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/788005751349649/?type=3&theater
    Resist!
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1017121338421903/?type=3&theater

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  8. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    PE- You might want to look at where the R legislators come from, Trump country. Your gang is the one in trouble in the mid terms. You could reasonably expect at least half of the dems in Trump states to be out of work. That could make a filibuster proof Senate for us. Think how much mischief we will be up to in that scenario. 😉

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  9. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    It was hilarious that Chuckie Schumer was channeling John Bohner in his immigration press conference. 😉

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  10. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Sure Don. What is your take on Trumps historic low approval numbers at this stage in his term? I’m interested on your spin on this. Also what is your view of the inevitable MMJ dispensaries in Nevada County?

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  11. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh Don.
    Are you saying that Paul living on our beautiful Left Coast abutting the Ocean Blue may be out of touch with the vast expanses of the USA? My, the silent red voters best keep their mouths shut and let PE get his hopes up and his confidence higher before the juggernaut grinds him to dust again. I like the silent quiet well mannered States where many of the 2018 Senators hail from. Some are DEMOs and even some RINOs in disguise.thrown into the mix.
    Yo PE, you are right again. You will crush us in 2018 and regain the Senate for the Democrat Party….er…I mean for all the independents and Green Libertarians. We might as well throw down our plastic squirt guns and crawl back under the rocks from whence we came. Paul is 100% correct. After the 2018 elections, you can impeach Trump and let Pence control the reins. I can hardly wait. Oh goodie goodie gumdrops.
    Meanwhile, some of us live in the here and now. Some of us, not all. :). Love ya Paul! Big butterfly kisses coming your way!

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  12. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Why, why, why. 😉

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  13. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    “Yo PE, you are right again. You will crush us in 2018 and regain the Senate for the Democrat Party.”
    Don’t act like such a wimp Don. Things will be ok.

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  14. Russ Avatar
    Russ

    Sunday Morning Thought
    Governor Brown promotes climate models as real science providing policy makers with a prediction of the future climate in California and the globe in 2100. Yet, even the IPCC reports that the climate models are incapable of predicting the future climate.
    As the IPCC itself said (AR4 WG1): “we should recognise that we are dealing with a coupled nonlinear chaotic system, and therefore that the long-term prediction of future climate states is not possible.”.
    If long term climate predictions are not possible, why are California’s paying billions to stop something that is impossible to predict? Really? Why?

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  15. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Should have read
    Don’t act like such a wimp Bill.

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  16. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Getting worse. Trump is heading to Bushdom
    Approve 42, Disapprove 51 Gallup Poll

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  17. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    If President Trumps executive order was a muslim ban then why did it omit Indonesia, Saudi, Egypt and so on? 😉

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  18. BradC Avatar
    BradC

    ‘You can fool some people all the time, and all people some of the time, but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time.’ Well, you don’t have to; fooling most people most of the time works out quite well as confirmed by most astute observers.) …Trump knows this adage well and it was probably his personal campaign mantra.

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  19. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery is grasping at straws. He predicted Trump would lose big and got his comeuppance by the voters. He has no creds on this. And who cares if Gallup polls him. Hell, they said they were never going to do those daily tracking polls on the Prez again so they too are just lamestream liars making fake news.

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  20. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Shoot. All they got is polls now. Holy Toledo, they are running out of ammo. Sad to see how far the mighty have fallen. Well, it’s another slow news day.

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  21. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    PE @ 1139- So what? That does not take his job or pen away! You still don’t get it PE. 😉

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  22. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Todd
    Never heard that assumption Todd. (Gallup daily tracking). It’s been going on for over 40 years. where did you get that information?
    Voters supported Hillary Todd. The EC supported Trump. He won fair and square but does not have popular support and it’s declined since the election.

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  23. stevenfrisch Avatar
    stevenfrisch

    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 29 January 2017 at 10:35 AM
    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 29 January 2017 at 10:36 AM
    I could fill a thimble with your understanding of the Constitution.
    First, all Constitutional rights are up for interpretation of some kind because we have judicial review, thus unless you want to go back and invalidate Marbury v. Madison, which would through the entire American legal system and all decisions since 1802 into total turmoil, you are stuck with it.
    Second, as I stated, it is the Equal Protection clause that guarantees equal representation, which is embedded in the 14th amendment–are you suggesting changing the Equal Protection Clause? If you are there is a process for that–amend the Constitution–otherwise we have case law that defines it and there ain’t shit you can do about it.
    Finally, the Commerce Clause is an enumerated power, it is right there in Article 1, Section 8, Clasue 3 of the Constitution.
    “To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes.

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  24. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Is Trump on the ballot in 2018? I know Obama said his policies were on the ballot in 2016. Looks like some voters wanted to go in another direction. Looks like they will elect people in 2018 to keep it that way. Too many counties out there in the hinterlands outside the Blue Wall of Resistance. You guys are all concentrated in 2-3 areas.. I could be wrong. Trump on the ballot in 2018? Learn something new every day.

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  25. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    MT, ND, WI, MI, MO, IN, OH, PA, WV, VA AND FL are some of the dem Senate seats in 18′. How far do you think those guys are going to go in opposition to President Trump? 😉

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  26. Walt Avatar

    Speaking of that commerce clause, The Left coast states are pretty much violating it by denying coal export facilities. Soon the days of selective law enforcement is over.
    Go ahead and bitch about Trump. He’s only enforcing the laws on the books, and not writing law like “O” tried to do.

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  27. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    We can expect the new team in DC will be compelling the ports to give access to the coal for export. Jobs, jobs, jobs. 😉

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  28. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery they announced that before the election. Google it.
    Frisch your understanding of the Constitution can fit on a pinhead. You really are ignorant and there seems to be no helping you. I would suggest you read the document, take some classes and stay away from the rum. You may come to realize I have way more smarts on this than you ever did.

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  29. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Good question Don. Remember off year elections generally favor the minority party. Look at 1994 and 2010 as prime examples. There is the question of buyers remorse. Also hasty weak legislation such as the AFA (affordable care act) take their toll. Obama started his first term with popular support something Trump does not have. To use my boxing analogy Trump is a slugger not a boxer. Sluggers have spectacular victories but usually have no defense and don’t last long.

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  30. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    I agree that if the people don’t like what he is doing they may boot the R’s from Congress. However, we gerrymandered it really tight so it may not happen. LOL. Just like the democrats do in California.

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  31. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The simple equation is those states that voted Trump liked his policy statements. He is delivering in his first week, which is a shock to the body politic. Being in opposition to the policies your state wanted is not a good way to win a Senatorial campaign. 😉

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  32. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    PE @ 1243- That’s what you said a year and a half ago and he is the President in spite of your sooth saying that he had no endurance. 😉

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  33. stevenfrisch Avatar
    stevenfrisch

    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 29 January 2017 at 12:42 PM
    My, that post from you is remarkably short on any actual facts Todd–no quotes, no references to any articles or sections of the Constitution, no citations or references–just braggadocio.

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  34. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Continuing with my boxing analogies.
    Obama was a master boxer with no punch who retired young. Bush was punch drunk and Clinton (Bill) was a boxer puncher who could really take a punch. He became pretty punchy is his later years. Hillary was neither a puncher or a boxer who twice showed she couldn’t win the big one. She had great promotion but was overrated and had crooked management who couldn’t prop her up when she faced a slugger.

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  35. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Frisch 1257. That is your opinion as a ignorant man. The other people here know what I am referring to. Bone up on the document and get back to us.

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  36. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Pelline is siding with open borders and chaos. Frisch too.

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  37. BradC Avatar
    BradC

    Don’t let the protests get you down. They are all part of Trump’s master plan,
    “You know what solves [this]? When the economy crashes, when the country goes to total hell and everything is a disaster. Then you’ll have a, you know, you’ll have riots to go back to where we used to be when we were great.” – Trump Feb. 10, 2014

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  38. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    It was funny to see Chuckie Schumer go all snowflake and tear up. People just don’t want to acknowledge that just because 0 issued a visa that the current Prez can still void it. Team 0 issued visas like tic tacs and would not even look at refugees social media so they wouldn’t violate THEIR PRIVACY. Remember San Bernardino? There is no right to immigration despite what team lefty wants to advance as a talking point. 😉
    PE @ 101- What does that have to do with anything?

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  39. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    The left is doing the rioting BradC. We on the right did not ever do that. Your ilk likes to break things and burn down their own homes and CVS pharmacies. We simply want you to leave us alone. But you can’t.

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  40. BradC Avatar
    BradC

    At least Trump and Bannon are on the same page,
    “I’m a Leninist,” Bannon proudly proclaimed.
    Shocked, I asked him what he meant.
    “Lenin,” he answered, “wanted to destroy the state, and that’s my goal too. I want to bring everything crashing down, and destroy all of today’s establishment.” – Bannon Nov. 12, 2013

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  41. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Which they did last November BC. The trifecta, President, Senate and House. 😉

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  42. Don't Shoot the Messenger! Avatar
    Don’t Shoot the Messenger!

    “…destroy all of today’s establishment.” Trump thinks riots are necessary for change and Bannon wants to destroy ‘all’ of it …including the Republican Party. It is not the libs who want to see the demise of the Republican Party as we know it that GeorgeR refers to in his headline post – it Trump and Bannon.

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  43. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    It only took a revolution of the little people who had been abandoned by the democrats identity politics. The establishment of the last 8 years is being flushed down the toilet of history, a legacy of executive action reversed by executive action. Who knew it would be so swift? 😉

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  44. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Well Don’t shoot, looks like he took a page out of your Alinsky playbook,eh? It’s a counterrevolution going down. And now we get to hold you to your values and throw rocks everytime you don’t live up to them. Hyprocrite! Hyprocrite! That’s what happens when you live off the cream of the big teat and get all soft like and lose the moral authority. You are hereby the Establishment Elitists. Our turn to stick it to Da Man. We be the common folk.
    Burning down the house.
    General Maddog Mattis does not like to called Maddog. Oh, he is good natured about it, but his troops informed me they call him The Warrior Monk just to rub it in your faces.

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  45. Walt Avatar

    Love these “quotes” our LIBS dig up. You can bet they are taken WAY out of context, and re-jiggered to fit their needs. Well,, nothing new about that.
    And already looking to the next election and betting on a win? LOL!! The freeloading LIBS that are filling their diapers in the streets today will be better off by then. Tough love works good.

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  46. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Walt, I would not be the least surprised if he said it today, lol. Strap on tight, we are going back to the future all the way to the Eisenhower Days. Operation Overload. Listen to that bag of popcorn pop like crazy. Hope the bag don’t burst out the side.

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  47. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The next shoe to drop is the joint congressional resolution of disapproval, a simple majority vote will undo all of 0’s regulations going back to May. Now that’s some change we hoped for! 😉

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  48. Walt Avatar

    “O”‘s “legacy” is getting scrapped one E.O. at a time. Live by the exec. Order, die by it.
    LIBS lived by them for years. Then it was “we choose not to enforce these laws”. Did they vote the laws away? Nope. “O” and Co. chose to ignore the Constitution. So much for upholding it. Just 103 more weeks to go, and more LIBS and RINOS get their walking papers.

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  49. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Trump is taking a thrashing on Fox News today. Typical of sluggers who have no finesse is that they fall apart easily and thrash around swinging mindlessly at invisible opponents. Here’s one of the more interesting examples:
    For all of his anti-establishment rhetoric, President Trump’s stance toward immigrants and Muslims is more of the same. Orientalism and Manifest Destiny have long animated American foreign policy and domestic treatment of its racial and religious minorities.
    Trump’s executive orders on Friday, effectively barring immigrants from seven majority-Muslim countries, harks back to an era when holy wars were the currency for mass mobilization by the ruler.
    In the eleventh century, for example, Pope Urban II called on his people to defend the Byzantine Empire from encroaching Muslim armies. What became known as the First Crusade in European history books solidified the image of Muslims as fanatical followers of a false religion and a threat to Christendom. Medieval romances and legends of battles between Christian and Muslim warriors nurtured the perception of a dangerous and violent Islam………….
    So when Trump signed his executive order allowing only Christian refugees and barring “radical Islamic terrorists” from America, he was no different than other U.S. presidents before him. His War on Terror is merely the latest version of Christian holy wars that use fear to manipulate the public into cowering to their ruler’s mandates.
    In that regard, Trump’s neo-Orientalism is the establishment.
    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/01/28/trumps-muslim-ban-part-long-sad-tradition.print.html

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  50. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    should be quotes on the third line to the end
    “For all of his anti-establishment rhetoric……..

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