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[The pro/con outrages in the news about President Trump are filling up sandboxes even faster than usual. And the spate of eagerly published fake news stories that get retracted regularly now are keeping several pots boiling in the intervals. gjr]

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297 responses to “Sandbox – 24jan17”

  1. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 27 January 2017 at 11:53 AM
    Proof is crucial, Kinzinger noted, because you need to convince people who might be skeptical of your claims — and not just those who already agree with you.

    How are you supposed to obtain proof without an investigation?

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  2. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    “Trump doesn’t even have Republican support for an “investigation” into voter fraud. ”
    Of course not. The existing system perfectly suits career politicians.
    It’s all a natural side effect of installing the first third-party President. The reactionaries are bound to bite back.

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  3. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Opiate of the masses.
    About Mexico, they still are a dirt poor nation no matter how we slice and dice it. And a very proud people. Very proud, like the Russian people and apparently the limies redcoats as well. The Redcoats are coming!
    Cooling off period is a good idea for the two heads of state for Mexico and the US. Worse case scenario is China moves in for all that free trade with Mexico. Mexico does have like 41 by-lateral trade agreements with other nations. But, they still are a dirt poor nation and we are their big big big #1 trading partner and prize.
    Enough high level discussions are going on and have never stopped between the US and Me-he-co. Behind the scenes. Need to separate the two issues of trade and the Wall.
    Personally, I don’t give a hoot who pays for the Wall. Just get ‘er done.
    Remember once we were being taken advantage by Japan. Killing us and blocking some of our imports while we were allowing their stuff in freely. Reagen gets up there and announces some tariffs on Japan. Exploding heads time. Japan was going to overtake the US and be the biggest economic powerhouse in the world. Trade War!!! Sky is falling. Hair on fire!
    So, I did a little poking around. We banned their TVs!!! Come to find out it was a weird size (like 22.5 inch or something) and Japan only sold around 200 of those in the US…ever. That wired size was for the European market. Anyway, everybody saved face and back to behind the scenes stuff.
    Remember boys and girls, the Wall violates no one’s civil rights.
    Opiate for the masses.

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  4. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    The first 3rd party President was arguably Lincoln in the then new Republican Party, who had bailed from the Whigs as they self destructed.
    There’s a fresh study that shows only 800,000 votes nationwide by illegals. Somehow, I don’t see that as supporting the Paul Emerys out there who think there should be proof before the Feds go looking for evidence.
    I expect the folks screaming bloody murder think illegal voters will be found if the government actually goes looking for them.

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  5. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    This guy Trump has a serious ego problem. Apparently he personally called National Park Service director complaining the photo’s of the inauguration displayed what a puny crowd showed up. This guy is weird. Why was it so important to him? Bizarre and disturbing behavior from our Prez active.
    “On the morning after Donald Trump’s inauguration, acting National Park Service director Michael T. Reynolds received an extraordinary summons: The new president wanted to talk to him.
    In a Saturday phone call, Trump personally ordered Reynolds to produce additional photographs of the previous day’s crowds on the Mall, according to three individuals who have knowledge of the conversation. The president believed that the photos might prove that the media had lied in reporting that attendance had been no better than average.
    Trump also expressed anger over a retweet sent from the agency’s account, in which side-by-side photographs showed far fewer people at his swearing-in than had shown up to see Barack Obama’s inauguration in 2009.”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-pressured-park-service-to-back-up-his-claims-about-inauguration-crowd/2017/01/26/12a38cb8-e3fc-11e6-ba11-63c4b4fb5a63_story.html?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.34753a2df3bb

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  6. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Our new Ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley said at a ceremony in the UN today; ‘for those who don’t have our back were taking names.’ Peace through strength baby! 😉

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  7. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    I’m sure she didn’t say those exact words Don. Can you give me a link to what inspired you?

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  8. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery seams deranged. Trump’s ego? All politicians and news anchors have huge egos. They no each other well. Trump is negotiating with Mexico as we now know they called him this morning to discuss things. And the peso is tanking so that seems to be bringing them to the table. o far so good for Trump and the planet.

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  9. fish Avatar
    fish

    Actually Paul I heard an audio clip of Haley saying something very close to what Don just described.

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  10. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Just curious Fish as to what exactly she said.

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  11. fish Avatar
    fish

    Well you can probably Google Secretary Haley press conference if you want it verbatim.

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  12. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    This is what she said last week in her confirmation hearings whici sounded pretty reasonable. Perhaps she has a case of Trump Mouth-meaning don’s believe a word being said.
    ” In the course of her Senate confirmation hearing, Haley testified several times that she did not believe in a “slash and burn” approach to U.S. funding at the U.N.
    “I do not think we need to pull money from the U.N.,” Haley told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee last week. “It’s not something I would consider as ambassador or anything that I would suggest back to you for Congress.”

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  13. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Hey guys and lady, I need some help here. I have already run out of superlatives to describe the Meltdown. It’s like they have seven bowling balls coming at them all at once and they keep picking them up and dropping them on their foot and reach for another bowling ball and pick it up and drop it on their foot again! Oh my. Mr. President is a pinball wizard if there ever was one. Feel them bumpers, hit the flippers.
    Hate to see our fellow liberal Americans in such anguish, even mental anguish. It’s not like we want to physically harm them, but I do get a slight degree of satisfaction from the new superlative for meltdown. Slight because because I am a deplorable and have not yet fully spiritually evolved.
    Mia from Utah killed it today, from the rumor mill. Had all those smiling women in tears. Those be happy smiling women….the same evil doers who elected Trump. And get this….they pick up after themselves. Odd.
    BTW, Mia was a big Cruz supporter. Nikki never endorsed Trump either. All they had to say was I will vote for The Donald. Close enough. Smart move picking Pence. Very smart move. Chess Player still doing his thing behind the curtain, but he is next up for the Wrath of Bedwetting Nation.
    Flood the zone Mr. Trump. Got them spinning like Linda Blair’s head in the Exorcist. Best to watch out for that green split pea soup heading our way.
    Wonder what week two will bring.

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  14. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Yeah looks like Trump Mouth is contagious. I’d be pissed if I voted for her based on her testimony. You can’t believe a word this crew says,
    “”For those who don’t have our backs, we’re taking names.”
    What is she going to say to the Ukraine after Trump removes sanctions put on Russia after the invasion?

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  15. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    The Pubs are freaking out about how to replace the Affordable Care Act. This is from a recording of a closed door meeting. Our owh Tom McClintock musing about the dilemma.
    “We’d better be sure that we’re prepared to live with the market we’ve created” with repeal, said Rep. Tom McClintock (R-Calif.). “That’s going to be called Trumpcare. Republicans will own that lock, stock and barrel, and we’ll be judged in the election less than two years away.”

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  16. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    I just asked these folk how to buy their product. Apparently the husband did not care for the Liberal Woman’s march last week and the left is giving him crap and of course threatening a boycott. Go check them out and let’s buy their beer!!
    https://www.facebook.com/12RoundsBrewing/

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  17. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Trump is doing great. He is up to 59% favourable and headed even higher. Sorry Paul Emry, you are headed downhill to the hot place again.

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  18. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 27 January 2017 at 03:52 PM
    It’s the health care issue where the frenetic pace of the Tangerine Tornados early days as president should slow dramatically. Don’t do anything substantive to repeal the Unaffordable Care Act….a few token gestures, an XO or two but nothing dramatic. Let this piece of shit die of natural causes under all the obligations that Sugar Frosted Barry O’s deferred until he was out of office start to crash on the beach as representatives return to their districts to start to get ready for election season. Make sure the electorate knows that Nancy, and “Manboobs” Schumer are standing in the way of legitimate healthcare reform because they want to preserve the thing. Things should really start to smell just before the mid terms and he’ll still be able to pin the whole mess on the democrats.
    There might be no democrap office holder above the mayoral level left to run against anywhere in the country by the 2020 election.

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  19. George Rebane Avatar

    Am I the only one who can’t find PaulE’s response to Gregory’s 108pm??

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  20. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    He is doing the ropa-dope.

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  21. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    He is floating like a butterfly and stinging like a flea.

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  22. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Dr. Rebane. PE will be back after he takes another pull off of the opiate for the masses jug. Take two long hard pulls from the jug Paul, you deserve it.

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  23. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    George 417
    Paul isn’t part of the discussion, this is just another boxing match for him and he knows when his position is a loser. Todd gets it right, it’s Paul’s rope-a-dope.
    We’re the only developed country that does not require ID to vote… some real information that there is rampant fraud would probably break the courts confusion between ID and suppression.
    How about we start allowing guns to be sold to people without ID… after all, a constitutional right is a constitutional right, and the anti-gunners are as adamant that they’re trying to suppress gun ownership as the KKK was about suppressing the black vote in their heyday.

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  24. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Paul, be a good trooper and go up on up to President Trump and pull his finger,

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  25. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Todd
    If you look at the polls there is one poll he’s up in the others he is way done. Here’s all of them from RCP.
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
    Most interesting are the polls on the Republican Congress. They are -50

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  26. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Paul, your 3:53 pm link. WaPo says I have reached my monthly limit on free articles and have to log in. Same with the NYT. Hey, I ain’t going to given them one Lincoln penny to read mostly fake news. Screw that. Besides, they will just the money to some spastic Times retard reporter anywho.
    Paul, link bad.

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  27. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Poor PE, wrong again @236, at least he is consistent. 😉

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  28. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    I’ll respond if Gregory tells me something about what the “fresh study” is. You gotta put a little effort out Gregory and not just throw anything out there without some kind of documentation.
    There always has been a few illegal votes and some are prosecuted.
    I find Fact Check a pretty unbiased source for information. Check it out George.
    http://www.factcheck.org/2016/10/trumps-bogus-voter-fraud-claims/
    IN the meantime I’ll wait for Gregory to tell me more about “fresh study”

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  29. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    You can wait for what you want PE but we are waiting to enjoy the squirming and squealing from leftists who are realizing they have been caught by President Trumps voting investigation. The one that starts here in CA. We will be joining the rest of the first world countries who demand an id to vote in the not too distant future. One citizen, one vote. Making America Great Again in only 5 days on the job. 😉

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  30. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 525pm – Fair enough Paul; we await Gregory’s citation. However there was an analysis (by Heritage I believe) of a fairly random selection of 30K voter registrations that indicated about 3% of them were by non-citizens. The US has 146M+ registered voters. We can start scoping the election fraud problem by taking 3% of that number (4.4M) and whittling it down. The surviving sum is still large and needs a closer look by some blue blood panel. I still wonder why anyone would expose/perjure themselves by registering to vote and then not voting.

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  31. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    I see dead people. And they are on the rolls in Nevada County and they vote. That is a rumor I heard recently. Maybe Mr. Diaz will do a purge and see if that is true?

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  32. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    “The first 3rd party President was arguably Lincoln in the then new Republican Party,”
    Quite right. I stand corrected.
    In the feel-good department, hero of the day.
    https://i.redd.it/67l87yx8qacy.jpg

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  33. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    There was a post that reported that the SEAL who shot bin laden replied when asked what he thought about general Mattis; He has a bear rug in his house, its not dead, its just afraid to move. Go get em Secretary Mattis. 😉

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  34. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Give Paul the info he ignores it , don’t give it and he claims to be eager for it.
    http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/01/27/study-800000-noncitizens-voted-for-hillary-clinton-n2277734
    It’s a study from Old Dominion University. Hill got 800k votes.from illegals by their estimation.

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  35. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Todd
    Have you actually looked at the voter polls yourself and found that information? What is the source of your “rumor”?
    George, it is one thing to have a reasonable question as to voter fraud based on the look of a Libertarian leaning private organization and making a proclamation such as Trump did that he would have won the popular vote if illegals hadn’t supported Clinton. That’s a leap that you of all people with your mathematical background should find ludicrous and highly unlikely.
    That a leap that few Republicans are willing to fund and is not supported by the Speaker of the House anong others. He will have to take personal control of the investigation. Is it important enough in your view when the purpose is to gather information to bolster Trumps ego. He is an odd duck for sure.

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  36. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    PE- Can you the Department of Justice and AG Sessions? 😉

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  37. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Can you say the… 😮

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  38. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Don, General Mattis sent ISIS a communique. It read, “Be forewarned. I don’t work for your brother.”
    Check this out. Paul’s people were right after all. I’ll be darned. Well, kudos to Quainty Town. Gotta give credit where credit is due. Every once in awhile even our Liberal Playground on Broad St gets it right.
    http://www.the-postillon.com/2017/01/shocking-photographic.html#.WIpvcVA_b5s.facebook

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  39. Walt Avatar

    Watching the news tonight, Sac. city, county, and LIBS under the dome are getting REAL nervous about the moneys they are soon to lose. Yet continue to bluster in defiance.
    Then some legal professor says Ca. is safe. ” Trump can’t do that.” Well just who is he trying to kid? Hell yes Trump can cut off discretionary funds. The FEDS have done it in the past to “nudge” states into compliance. They did it for the push for the 55MPH speed limit.
    “55 or else!”. They did it to states for raising the drinking age from whatever it was, to 21. Looks like the Prof. was smoking something.

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  40. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Walt you are correct sir! The case law is settled, a grant is not an entitlement and the feds give what they want where they want. End of subject. 😉

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  41. Walt Avatar

    This “scorched LIB” policy of Trump’s is SO fun to watch. And this is just week one.
    Trump BBQ’s one LIB sacred cow, and just as the LIBS start bitching into the first microphone they can find, Trump skewers another LIB pet. Nope, the Left just can’t keep up.
    This is what happens when politicians DON”T get elected. Things get done.

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  42. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Tales from the Resistance. That darn Establishment is out of touch. Think their line of defense may not hold much longer. Plan B: regroup for SCOTUS! Sad to see how far the mighty have fallen.
    https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/01/hello-from-the-other-side-the-continuing-collapse.html?ref=yfp

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  43. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    I had been enjoying checking in on Rachel Madow, cnn and pbs since the election to watch their idiocy and to get a good laugh. Since he became President Trump all those guys are apoplectic and frothing at the mouth. So much happening in so little time they are spinning, not knowing what to worry about most. 😉

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  44. Walt Avatar

    Does anyone know when the next FED distribution of discretionary funds are supposed to be dispersed? I want to witness the Lefty politicians go ape sh** when the teat goes dry.

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  45. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Don, more than one pundit turns on MSBNC in the morning to get funny material for the day. Don’t have TV p, so I can’t watch the Richard Madoe Show on MSNBC. He is the darling of the Left I surmise.
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1016230581844312/?type=3&theater
    Poor Paul. His life has been reduced to reading Huff-N-Puff Post.
    https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/786788014804756/?type=3&theater

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  46. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 623pm – Was that an attempt to address my 540pm?

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  47. Walt Avatar

    Judging by what Crabb submitted to the local rag, he’s not one bit happy about Trump winning. His skeptic tank mine is now a Trump bunker.(he may have to pump it out a time or two.)

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  48. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Emery?
    Emery?
    Emery?
    Emery?
    Old Dominion University. You wanted the info, you got it from me, though you could have found it easily enough… just google 800000 illegal votes and multiple stories would have popped up.
    So, your position is that it isn’t true and by ridiculing the idea of an investigation, you’re just protecting Trump from embarrassing hisself?
    2018 is the election year where 25 Democratic Senate seats are up for grabs, it starts just 11 months from now… is this investigation going to drive their losses up, or down?
    We live in interesting times.

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  49. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Dr. Rebane. Cut PE some slack. He chooses to defend progressive values.
    Can you say kill the homo? Can you say days of torturing the homo with a 3 foot metal rod before offing him?
    “Hylton, who now works as an activist for criminal justice reform…..”. Yeah, bet she has a lot of knowledge about the criminal justice system from the inside.
    https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/786788014804756/?type=3&theater
    And they wonder how could have Trump possibly won. A great mystery I tell ya.

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